(Close Window) Topic: Quantum Bender 2.0
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Mar 25, 2007 4:30pm)
Hi guys, I've recently been wanting to do a coin bending effect and started on my quest to find one that suits me the best. The very first one I played with was with a pre-b*nt coin and doing a bobo's switch. I've gotten mixed but decent reviews with this one. One of the problems I had was I couldn't really have the spec pull out any coin from their pocket. If they pulled out a shiney penny, I would have to have one right there, or if it was dull and dark, I'd have to have that in my pocket as well. Nickels aren't too big of a problem unless they happened to pull out one of the new buffalo ones, but those are few and far betwee. The worst one is if they pull out a quarter. MAN, so many different state quarters, don't even try to perfom it!! So I then read up and checked out the BOA/PYTHON. It was ok, but the handling isn't very natural and your hands look funny trying to get the thing back together. So that just makes a good pre-b*nding tool. Next was the Superman. Lot better idea than the previous as your'e not having to worry what state the coin is from or its condition. But I really didn't like the setup at all. I was never a fan of the raven, so this made it not so fun to do repeatedly. And you're hands have to cover bout everything so as to not reveal the method. Lastly, when reading different threads on the different benders, one that always that was mentioned was the Quantum Bender. Just like the Superman, you can borrow pretty much any coin, have them sign it and bend it. But unlike the Superman, you want to flaunt this before their very eyes! You feel devious when you show it to them and they have no idea that it is anything other than a regular *******. Up to now, I havent mentioned anything about the pricing of each method. Pre-b*nding your coins is by far the cheapest of them all, just a pair of pliers is all you need and you're set. Very effective, but limited in that you cant really borrow any coin. You're better off introducing the coins yourself and then giving it away at the end. Boa/Python is probably around $50-$70, but is impractical to use in performance. But it makes a way better substitution to using pliers..WAY BETTER. Superman is around $40 and enables you to borrow any coin, but you can also use it in performance. The setup is not that fun, and you're hands look pretty awkward at times. Not immediately resetable either. The Quantum Bender 2.0 is between $549 and $599 depending where you pick it up from. WOW, that's some cash!! But I have to say that it priced perfectly as it is leap years ahead of the others. And it keeps 12yr olds with an allowance from picking it up and showing all their friends how it works and then posting it on youtube.com. A lot of top professionals use the Quantum Bender and it's for a good reason. IT'S THE BEST!! So I decided to plunk down the cash and pick up the Quantum Bender 2.0. It'll last longer than I'll ever live. The minute details are amazing. The routine supplied is pure genious. John Sheets leaves nothing to chance, and gives you the best product for the money. When going through the instructions, it seems that I was doing something wrong. I live about 70 miles south of John Sheets and decided to call him and see if he would be available to meet to go over it. On short notice he was more than happy to meet up with me and go over everything. Upon meeting him, he gave me free of charge one of his posters and a set of his lecture notes (which happen to be worth 5x's more than what he charges) After some small chit chat, he then performed the routine for me. I must say that even though I knew the method, he does it so flawlessly that I wasn't sure if I had missed when the coin was bent. He was just so fluid and quick. Another local magician a while back who met up with him knew what the gimmick was, but when he saw the performance, he had no clue as to when the bend actually took place. John has routined it so perfectly that you really have to be complete moron to mess this up. Another thing that is so awesome about this is that you're done with the dirty work well before the effect really begins to take shape. Reconstruction by the spec is pretty much nill. So that just leaves you to concentrate on the presentation with no worries in the world!! For whatever reason I had always thought that John Sheets was just a stage magician. But after sessioning with him last night, he is one of the better closeup magicians that I've ever seen. And so many of his effects are actually of his creation!! He's working on a dvd that will have most of the effects that are in his notes. KEEP AN EYE OUT!! You will have some very special effects in your hands that will bring your magic up a couple of notches. And his handling of his Atomic Bills? YEEEESH!! I know the method, but he has a few sublties that blew me away!! I had no clue as to how he accomlished the transpo, even after repeated demo's by him. At anyrate, I wholly recommend the Quantum Bender 2.0 Will everyone and their grandma whip out their credit cards and order one for each person in their family? Prolly not. But I truely think that every magician who performs any sort of coin bending owes it to themselves to pick this up. You know it's a great effect when you rarely, if ever, see it for sale in the used section.....
Message: Posted by: Knarild (Mar 25, 2007 4:54pm)
I find it difficult to cover the bending. Would be nice to see a video of Sheets performing this.
Message: Posted by: Eric Gretencord (Mar 25, 2007 5:02pm)
There's a short clip of him performing it on LVMI Live! 2003 DVD. I'm sure he was using QB1 back then and maybe had some handling improvements since then but I was not impressed. John is a member here so maybe he'll chime in.
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Mar 25, 2007 7:14pm)
Forget the video's, how about ya'll just move out to colorado and see it live. :P knarild, I had the exact same problem, but after talking with john, that problem is now solved 100%. today I watched the Superman demo on ellus*onist and when he first had the coin in this hand, it looked like a 5 yr old wearing his dads shirt, as the sleeves were like almost past his fingertips lol. then after the bend he pulls them up. not too impressed by that either. Anyone have a clip of a purchasable coin bend that is impressive in real life? not a promo or demo, but a real performance. The performance of the Boa is laughable from what I've seen also imo. Just out of curiousity, what version do you perform Eric and do you have video footage? I'm always looking for the best bender and would love to be totally impressed by a live performance and not be able to pickup on the method even after watching it over and over and over. I think all of us on the Café would love to see it!!
Message: Posted by: Mike Doogan (Mar 25, 2007 8:09pm)
$599 or a simple switch? I know which I prefer.
Message: Posted by: magicman899 (Mar 25, 2007 8:48pm)
I'm for the switch, I've seen the gimmick and thought it was worth $25. It's not something I would buy.
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Mar 25, 2007 9:24pm)
Knarild,
I don't mind giving you some help. Pm me if you'd like.

Eric,
Yes, the performance on the LVMI DVD, was with the first version of the Quantum Bender. The device and the handling has been MUCH IMPROVED since then! That was in 2003, it's now 2007, wow how time flies! The old version of the Q.B. compaired to the new version Q.B.2 is like night & day!

Mike & magicman,
It's all good.

Lunatik,
Thanks for the kind comments!

Posted: Mar 25, 2007 9:30pm
Mike & magicman,

P.S. -If you did a quick search for the Quantum Bender, you will see great reveiws. Also, talk to any of the top Pro's that use them & you'll get a whole different story! Many have said it is worth THOUSANDS of dollars to them. Oh well, to each their own!
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Mar 25, 2007 10:47pm)
I think Gregory Wilson, Nathan Kranzo, Danny Archer, Mark Strivings know a good thing when they see it. Check out the unsolicited comments from these top professionals. http://www.johntsheets.com/catalog.0.html just scroll down a bit :) Magicman,what would you do if a spec handed you the newest state quarter?You would be up the creek without a paddle! You'd have to tell the spec that your powers were kind of low and that a different coin would be better to demonstrate those powers. Ummmmm, I guess to each their own if they love the restrictions and handicaps of a switch.
Message: Posted by: magicmanfrank (Mar 25, 2007 11:16pm)
I'm afraid that this instructional problem is contageous!

I also purchased the QB II due to numerous recommendations, and find the instructions difficult to understand!

I was sure that a DVD was going to come with it, (especially for the price!), however one did not.

I am in California so I don't have the luxury of zipping on over to Colorado to meet with Mr. Sheets.

So here I sit with a Pricey, Wonderful trick, that I have not been able to perform!

=Frank=
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Mar 25, 2007 11:38pm)
I've talked with Mr. Sheets and he's thought of putting out a dvd showing some different handlings. I'll let him chime in here and see if a dvd is in the near future or not. I don't know where all the owners of the Quantum Bender live, but I'm sure there has to be a decent amount in California. Maybe Gregory Wilson lives there? But Frank, after about 2 or 3 minutes with John teaching me, he set me straight and now everything makes total sense. I personally have a harder time learning from reading, so that's my excuse as to why I didn't completely understand the instructions. Hmmmmm, if John's up to it, we might have to break out the digital camera and get something going!! But for the time being, pm John as his customer service is second to none.
Message: Posted by: omnibozo (Mar 25, 2007 11:43pm)
It's fun to read a review where someone really got it. I am the writer of the directions. Over the years we have had a handful of purchasers who have had difficulty with the directions. I apologize for the inadequate descriptions, but... a only a handful have had trouble. Both John and I have sent additional handling tips and even complete routines to those requesting help... including some people on this thread. There is nothing subtle about the handling. Insert coin. Say something funny. Bend the sucker. Calmly put gimmick away. Fry them as the coin 'bends' in front of their eyes. No fuss. No muss. No problem. Relax guys. Just do it. As I just posted on the EG, I NEVER leave home without the QB2 or John's Atomic Bills. Pricey, yes. Worth it, yes.
Bob LaRue
Omnibozoologist
Message: Posted by: magicmanfrank (Mar 26, 2007 2:00am)
Terrific!

I'm in the lucky handful! :angry:

=Frank=
Message: Posted by: milez (Mar 26, 2007 2:15am)
Six hundred dollars for a coin bend? Does it double as a microwave as well? For that price I would expect it to.
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Mar 26, 2007 3:55am)
Milez,
This subject has been covered(the value of this prop), do a search on the Quantum Bender.
Message: Posted by: magicmanfrank (Mar 26, 2007 4:09am)
Mr. Sheets-

I just sent you a PM.

Looking forward to hearing back from you.

=Frank=
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Mar 26, 2007 4:30am)
Frank,
Check your inbox.
Message: Posted by: Branden Darcel (Mar 26, 2007 5:00am)
I actually got to see this effect performed by John Sheets himself just the other day, and I have to say I'm highly impressed with it. After watching it performed, and talking with John about it some, I feel the effect is well worth the cost. It really is an amazing effect, and from what I saw, one of the best coin bending effects I've seen.
Message: Posted by: Al Straker (Mar 26, 2007 6:12am)
John's QB2 is vastly superior to any other method out there IMHO. What sets it apart from a switch is that they can sign the coin before you even touch it. A couple of the less expensive benders allow this but have other serious drawbacks. QB2 is a pro-standard item and despite the cost, it is great value for a worker!

Also if you are looking for a nice routine to wrap around it ask Nate Kranzo for his "All Day Bender" routine. It's a gem!

Cheers,
Al
Message: Posted by: david_a_whitehead (Mar 26, 2007 10:31am)
I have test run the QB 2 for three or four months now along with an unsigned switch coin bend. I can't tell you the number of times when I was using the switch method that the person figured it out...maybe not right away but when talking about it later on. Trust me, signing the coin DOES make a difference. I can't stress that enough and no one can convince me otherwise. I don't care how many "pros" say the opposite, having a signed coin bend is more impressive and completely destroys backtracking a method. I also had concerns with the directions of QB 2 but when using it in the real world no one ever catches the bend. You have to try it to believe it. I have done it a ton of times now and no one ever catches the bend and everyone is impressed. This truly is a gem and worth it if you will use it. The gimmick by the way will last a lifetime. Highly recommended.
Message: Posted by: magicsiow (Mar 26, 2007 2:25pm)
As a pro magician perform for many International corporate & upper market... I don't want you to own it, just leave it to our pro and you can continue to use "switch" sorry for that!!! cheer!!!
Message: Posted by: sbays (Mar 26, 2007 3:27pm)
I keep hearing people here saying they cant hide the bending of the coin. Guys, the QB2 does the BENDING for you. It is up to YOU to routine it and use MISDIRECTION to hide it, just like any other move. Now, the QB2 has a perfectly logical reason for being there as it looks totally innocent and has been in play since the beginning. Trust me, it flies by everyone. Although I am not going to give away my current handling, here is just a quickie to help hide the work.

Ask them for a coin, or provide one yourself. While demonstrating with your hands, ask them to check the coin out to make sure it's real (If its your coin)making sure it doesn't come apart, bend or squirt liquid. (small chuckle there)Then have them sign or mark the coin anyway they like. You have basically conditioned them to the moves later when doing the work. Take the signed coin back and make a comment about letting it dry for a moment. Then, I take a few other coins out of my pocket and have them check those out the same way as the other. (The work is done here)It only takes a moment guys. By the time they are done, the work is done and the Qb2 is long gone. I then take the signed coin and the extra coins and have them open their hands and I give them the coins.

I do my mojo and have them concentrate on their coin, and when they open their hands, their signed coin is bent. This KILLS EVERY SINGLE TIME! Another small thing I will share here is this. Get a m******* coin to add to the extra coins you give them. And also get a M5 or equivalent to wear. When the coins are in their hand, they will actually FEEL movement in their hands. This is good ... REALLY good. Although, I have achieved the same through suggestion, this really adds to the effect.

I also agree that having their own signed coin is far better than switching coins. There are just to many different coins out there today. I initially thought I was crazy to spend this kind of money on a bender. You know what? I am glad I did. If you use this, it will pay off in dividends.

Just my thought!

Scott
Message: Posted by: Royston South (Mar 26, 2007 3:47pm)
Thanks Scott, I like that handling-really like it!

Royston :)
Message: Posted by: billfromoregon (Mar 26, 2007 3:51pm)
Scott - Excellent ideas. Thanks for sharing. I really like the magnetic coin idea. I have the oringinal QB. Can someone who owns or has owned both PM me the diffeence, especially as related to the ease of bending the coin with the QB2 compared to the original? I am considering getting the QB2, but am wondering if there is enough of an improvement to justify spending the extra bucks for the newer unit. Thanks -

Bill
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Mar 26, 2007 4:37pm)
Thanks for all the great comments everyone!

Scott,
You've got a great routine! I like to hear what others come up with. I've heard allot of different, & great routines from many different performers. It's interesting to see how there's so many great routines developing with the Quantum Bender. Thanks for sharing!

Bill,
The "Quantum Bender 2.0" is much improved by its overall design & ease of use. Without revealing too much... It Is made out of better materials, It's now all high quality stainless steel (no plastic). It is much more precise all around. It's now got even better leverage for even faster & easier bending. It is smoother in the operation & execution of insertion & removal of the coin too. To me, the difference between the first version & the second version are like night and day. I really do beleive that it just can't get any better! I hope this helps.
Message: Posted by: D J Hawkins (Mar 26, 2007 4:41pm)
I'm very tempted to invest in this but would need confirmation that it works with UK coins. Any British close-uppers using this regularly ??? I'd love to hear your comments.
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Mar 26, 2007 4:52pm)
Magicsiow,
LOL, I've heard other Pro's say the same thing!

DJ Hawkins,
I have sent several to the UK, with no complaints.
Message: Posted by: Royston South (Mar 26, 2007 4:55pm)
Hi David the QB2 works with 1p,5p,20p and the best 10p it takes a bit of getting used to, then is as easy as spreading butter!!!!!If you have a place for a coin bend in you act then this is the ONE.

Royston.
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Mar 26, 2007 9:51pm)
One of my misdirection tactics is to have the specs all have coins - I demo me trying to bend it with my bare fingers... then ask them to try - and tell them to do it "now" as I do the "work".... then I flip the marked coin between my hands and say something to the effect of "where brute force fails... let us see the power of the mind" and go into the usual mental bend of the coin... then let it drop into the spec's hands.
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Mar 27, 2007 4:39am)
Dr Spektor,
I like it!

Sometimes, if it is a repeat performance or the're burning my hands, I will just ask a direct question. I usually bend Quarters, so I ask "Do you know what a quarter is made of?". Most people don't know. They will look up at me, then to their neighbor. There's the moment. It works everytime!
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Mar 27, 2007 5:26am)
Royston,
You said, "it takes a bit of getting used to, then is [it's] as easy as spreading butter!!!!!".
I agree 100 percent. For me it feels so natural, that sometimes it feels like I give zero pressure to bend a US Quarter! I know logically it takes more than zero pressure, but that's what it feels like! I have had a moment where after the bend, I had to think to myself "wow! did I just bend that already?"...LOL
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Mar 27, 2007 5:28am)
If any of you are on the verge of buying it, there's one in the for sale section brand new at an unheard of $450, you better jump on it while you can before someone else snatches it up!!! I would be bend over backwards to pick up one of these. (no pun intended)
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Mar 27, 2007 5:39am)
Wow! That is an amazing price!!!!!
Message: Posted by: AmazingKeithy (Mar 27, 2007 10:48am)
I understand if this asking for too much information but would like to know if QBII is in play from beginning to end or if it needs to be wrung(sp) in and/or out through the course of the routine.

Thanks,
Keith

Posted: Mar 27, 2007 11:42am
I understand if this asking for too much information but would like to know if QBII is in play from beginning to end or if it needs to be wrung in and/or out through the course of the routine.

Thanks,
Keith
Message: Posted by: omnibozo (Mar 27, 2007 7:36pm)
Keith, the QB comes and goes... but there just isn't any heat on it, so there are no worries there. Since it is a totally logical object, there is no heat as is drawn by a deck of cards, a jumbo marker, a wallet, or a wad of bills. I even hesitate to call it a switch out, though that does happen.

Bob LaRue
Omnibozo
Message: Posted by: Piers (Mar 28, 2007 5:19am)
Can it be examined, closely or otherwise?
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Mar 28, 2007 6:13am)
Piers,
During the routine the only objects that the spectators are aware of, is a Sharpie which they write with, and a borrowed coin. Nothing else appears to be involved. I hope this helps.

Posted: Mar 29, 2007 1:44am
Hello,
For those of you who have an original routine, idea, etc. on the "Quantum Bender 2.0", please check this out: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=203917&forum=3&2
Message: Posted by: magicmanfrank (Mar 29, 2007 1:46pm)
WONDERFUL NEWS!!!!

Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Mar 29, 2007 9:56pm)
Hello Magic Friends,
I did post this at the link above, but I'll leave it here too, since it started here....
By popular demand, I will be working on a new project. This will be a DVD on the "Quantum Bender 2.0". This DVD will include performances of different routines, handling techniques, subtleties, ideas, etc.. Right now I have an extensive collection of my own ideas, as well as a handful from other performers. At this time, I am accepting contributions from other people to include in the DVD (with credit of coarse!). I know that some ideas may be created independantly, & some may even be duplicated. If you have a unique idea, routine, etc. that you would like to contribute, please PM me, or e-mail me.
This DVD will be included with future purchases, after the DVD has been completed. It will also be sent to those who have already bought a "Quantum Bender 2.0" and returned their registration card. I need to have a deadline date for accepting the contributions, so that will be May 1st. That's the deadline. Thanks to all those who have expressed interest in this, and thanks for all your support!
Message: Posted by: bekralik (Mar 29, 2007 11:37pm)
Nothing for QB1 owners? There should be some support for us, too.
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Mar 30, 2007 12:44am)
This is for QB2 owners
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Mar 30, 2007 5:26am)
After allot of consideration, I've decided to include in the DVD my closely gaurded, underground "S bend", using the QB2. Stay tooned!
Message: Posted by: sharpace (Mar 30, 2007 6:12am)
I'm the first few guys bought the Quantum Bender 1.0 we fully support John's products I hope we can get the DVD for different routines, handling techniques, subtleties, ideas, etc..

Message: Posted by: Daegs (Mar 30, 2007 6:58am)
Quote:
I've decided to include in the DVD my closely gaurded, underground "S bend", using the QB2. Stay tooned!



So closely guarded and underground that now everyone at the Café knows about it and it will be released on a commercial dvd sent to many people?

Must be a real worker than you have kept close to your chest for many years, with many people begging you not to release it because its too strong for laymen.... heh

Message: Posted by: lunatik (Mar 30, 2007 7:54am)
So you've never heard anyone releasing a pet effect of theirs that they've been holding onto for years? I might have to pull up some threads where some top magicians here have done so.....
Message: Posted by: bekralik (Mar 30, 2007 6:51pm)
Lunatik, when a QB3 comes out with a dvd just for QB3 owners, then you'll know how I feel. Enjoy the exclusivity.
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Mar 30, 2007 9:43pm)
Daegs,
Yes, it has been closely gaurded & underground. That's why you havn't heard about it until now! Yes, after many years, I am releasing it to those who have purchased the QB2, NOT everyone on the Café'.
Yes, it is a real worker, & thanks for your lovely comment.

Posted: Mar 30, 2007 9:54pm
Bekralik,
Just like a new car. They're going to update and change for the better every year. Your not going to complain because your new car comes with more stuff than last years model, are you? The Quantum Bender has gone through changes too. It is better than ever, same with the packaging & directions. I will consider a DVD version for QB1 owners too. K. I'm trying to make everyone happy!
Message: Posted by: omnibozo (Mar 31, 2007 1:03am)
So John... since I own BOTH a 1.0 and a 2.0 can I get a copy of both dvds?

How about we all just pretend that there never was going to be a dvd of this? Then, magically, when the select QB2 owners that have actually sent in their registration cards find a surprise gift in their mailboxes, they will be really really happy. Those that did not send in the card, and the purchasers of version 1.0 (sold about three years ago!) will just have to sell their old one off and upgrade, so they will automatically get the dvd with the new purchase. Don't worry, you have plenty of time for this, as shooting has not yet started. Hey... here's an even better idea. Everything the 1.0 does, the 2.0 does better... so.... email John your fantastic 1.0 routine! If it is sufficiently original and wonderful, it might make it on the dvd! Now you have some real bragging rights... but you still have to purchase the 2.0...
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Mar 31, 2007 1:11am)
Yes, making & sending out a DVD (with extra stuff) was suppose to be an extra bonus.
Message: Posted by: bekralik (Mar 31, 2007 12:18pm)
Actually version 2.0 only began shipping June 21 2006, less than a year ago, so there are some people who may have bought 1.0 up to that time. Not to get into a big issue over this, but I would prefer to liken this to software rather than a car; I would expect all the old software should still run on a newer operating system.
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Mar 31, 2007 8:37pm)
Bekralik,
Bill Gates is not going to send out programs and operating systems for free everytime there's a new one. Look at his new "Vista" software.
The QB2 is a big improvement over QB1. The old version still bends coins. The new one, does it better. QB2 can also do something extra(will be on DVD), which I don't recommend doing with the first version. Also the QB2 comes with a few extra routines. So just like many other magic products in this industry, there may be a newer model someday along with new ideas. There is a price difference between the QB1 & QB2, so that's another reason that I didn't feel it was so bad to include a DVD with the QB2. --Still trying to keep everyone happy! :)
Message: Posted by: gabelson (Apr 1, 2007 4:11am)
There are two ways to bend a spectator's coin: Either sw**tch it out, or actually bend the one that's offered. And while I have certainly gotten mileage out of a simple sw**ch, at the end of the day, there is NO other explanation for the spec OTHER than a sw**tch, that although impressive, is, after all, a trick. Engaging, entertaining, but nevertheless, a trick. However, having used the QB2 for about 6 months now, I can honestly say, that after I have the spec SIGN their coin on one side, and put a number, or drawing on the other, so they KNOW there was no sw**tch, I have literally witnessed people's jaws drop- the reactions ranging from questions like "How do you focus your energy like that?", to statements like, "Joe! This guy just melted my coin between his fingers!" (and similar statements- even from skeptics). They KNOW it's their coin, and more importantly, as the bend is invisible, there IS NO EXPLANATION. 90% of the time, the spectator tries to bend it BACK- something they NEVER did when I used to do a simple sw**ch. And yet I still feel I'm learning how to use this wonderful tool! I definitely would buy a DVD offering different presentations, so I could get some insights, and mix up some methods that might cancel each other out. In addition to John's routine, Nathan Kranzo has a wonderful variation, as well. Also, I will say that I have tried other benders, and none are even in the same league as the QB2. And when my 12 year old did the bend effortlessly, I realized how truly brilliant the design was.
Message: Posted by: Mystification (Apr 1, 2007 11:03am)
Wonder how this compares in deceptiveness to the terminator Wallet?
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Apr 1, 2007 4:40pm)
I like the looks of the terminator and I'm sure it bends coins nicely. But, it definately does'nt compare to the QB2 in deceptiveness. When I first got it, I looked at it and I had a big smile on my face. I took it over another magicians house and just had it in my hand most of the time to see if he'd say something. He saw it but nothing was out of the ordinary. He never once said anything. So before I left, I asked him about what he thought about the ******* and he had a puzzled look on his face and said 'what do you mean'? I asked him again and he said 'im not sure what you're getting at'..thats when I knew I had a winner in my hands. Having the QB2 is something you have out everyday anyways. It blends in 110%, you don't even hide the fact that its there. in fact you feel deviously evil flaunting it in front of them. Too bad you don't live closer to colorado,then you could see it first hand.
Message: Posted by: merlin5150 (Apr 5, 2007 12:01pm)
I like it when they take a lighter to another coin and try it themselves!
Message: Posted by: TheAmazingSteveo (Apr 5, 2007 11:55pm)
Hi John,

I absolutely love Qb2 .. it's one of my staples in walkaround.

I sent in my Reg. Card to you. Looking forward to the DVD.

Thank you very much for QB2!
Steven Skindell

Posted: Apr 5, 2007 11:56pm
John, I forgot to mention that I've been doing it for months now. It is something people ask me to do again and again for new people.

I love it! In fact, I just did it tonight at a 50th birthday party gig.

Thanks again,
Steve
Message: Posted by: Starromeo (Apr 6, 2007 2:42am)
Thanks for the review guys
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (May 1, 2007 12:28pm)
Hello,
We have reached the deadline for contributions to the DVD. I just thought that I would give a "Last Call" for anyone who wants to send something in. Thanks to all of you who have written to me, & thanks for all of your support.
Message: Posted by: billfromoregon (May 3, 2007 4:23pm)
OK, I just got the QB 2.0, so I will post my comparison of the original and the 2.0. The gimmick is basically the same, mechanically they work exactly the same. The difference is that the gimmick is now made of solid stainless steel, instead of steel inside a plastic housing. This actually makes a big diffeence, because the hinge mechanism is sturdier and the overall feel is much more solid. The slot for inserting the coin feels slightly larger, which makes insertion easier, and the actual bend requires slightly less force, perhaps 20% or so. Overall, I believe this is a significant improvement. Now, for those of you that own the original, is there any need to upgrade? No, not really, as the original will perform just fine. That being said, if you can afford it, I believe you will be more than pleased with the new model. After selling my original, it wound up costing me a couple hundred dollars extra, which I consider money well spent, as this new model should last a lifetime. Also, the routine has been updated and expanded, and I undestand that 2.0 owners will be eligible to receive the new dvd that John is going to produce. Expensive? Yes. Wothwhile? Definitely!
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (May 3, 2007 10:52pm)
Thanks for your positive feedback Bill! Once you've had some time using the new model, I know you'll notice a WORLD of a difference. It's sooo much easier, smoother, & faster! Also, with the QB2 you will be able to perform the underground "S-Bend", which is comming soon on a DVD near you!! :)
Message: Posted by: donkeys and waffles (May 4, 2007 12:21am)
Maybe I missed it but is there a demo of this to be seen ? Also, is it truly invisible or very close ? This sounds absolutely fantastic !!!!!
Message: Posted by: Blindside785 (May 4, 2007 12:25am)
No demo, it is a 600 dollar coin bender gimmick that is perfect for the real worker. I wish I had it :( I need a job :)
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (May 4, 2007 4:31am)
Donkeys and waffles,
It is truly invisible with a little time & practice. Performed correctly, this effect destroys! Ask any pro that uses it. I hope to have a demo available soon. :)
Message: Posted by: donkeys and waffles (May 5, 2007 12:21am)
Thanks John, I would love to see a demo video of it. It must be killer for folks to shell out that much without a demo. I will be checking for one. Anyone have a video that they could pm me of them performing this ? I would appreciate it.

D and W
Message: Posted by: Magic Arty (May 5, 2007 8:35am)
I think it would be wrong to post a video of this. I do not have one, however from what I have heard, this is an amazing effect, and does what it says. if you are just curious, too bad. If you think you would do this, then fork out the cash. I think it would be a disservice to the creators of this effect for others to pm a video of it. If the creators wanted a video out there of it they would post it.
Just me two cents worth.

Arthur
Message: Posted by: lunatik (May 5, 2007 11:18am)
Usually demo's for magicians are so that we can de-construct the method. Admit it, we all watch a trick more than once if it flys past us the first time. But like I've heard so many times from magicians who are requested to do a trick 'again'...once a trick, twice a lesson!! I'm not sure if I'd like a demo of this as everyone and their mother would be guessing to the method and crazy comments on editing when we all know that editing in most cases is to recreate momemts that a spectator would have. I say make a download that is only able to be viewed once. But I think too many would be crying if that were the case. All aside, if you're on the fence with this one, just look at the well known and respected magicians who DO use this. i.e. Gregory Wilson
Message: Posted by: donkeys and waffles (May 6, 2007 3:00am)
Very good points. I guess I hadnt thought of it that way. I have to admit, I would be breaking it down again and again. I do that with all the things I purchase. Even if I know the method, I still purchase if it looks something I would do in my brand of magic. I am on the fence with this one. thanks everyone
Message: Posted by: IlDaDe (May 6, 2007 7:51am)
Mmm...
Maybe this will sound heretical to you, but I find that the Superman Coin Bender (i know that is not really appreciate, and I don't understand why) is perfect for me.
Is invisible, and it bends a signed coin.. The only thing I don't like is that it can bend only "little" coins, but for me that is not a problem..
I can start, do the job (i don't do the bend like a strenght demonstration like suggested, but first I bend the coin saying that I'm trying if the coin is solid, and also the spectator do the same, then I make the gimmicks "disappear", and then I act like I'm bending the coin with the mind), and end super clean..
Message: Posted by: lunatik (May 6, 2007 10:40am)
Donkey, if you buy this, you will thank me many times over. if I had some extra money, I'd buy it from you if you weren't fully satisfied. You know how sometimes you buy a trick and you finally get it in the mail, rip it open, then let out a big sigh once you see what you got for the money? When I got this in the mail, I said 'ohhhh schnaaaaps!!' I was elated as to the method. in fact not having to hide much from the spec, having them stare at the gimmick and think nothing of it. talk about a guilty feeling!! But I love every minute of it lol. This is one of those tricks where you want to show everyone how it works because how cool it is. also another nice thing about this is that you start and end clean!! John Sheets on his website has a deal going on for the Quantum Bender 2.0 and Brainscan wallet for a good price. http://www.johntsheets.com/catalog.0.html *shoves donkey off the fence to go buy a Quantum Bender 2.0
Message: Posted by: donkeys and waffles (May 6, 2007 5:57pm)
Thanks Lunatik, I think I am convinced. I think I will pick this up. You said ohhhh Schnaaaaps !! HAha, that is funny. thanks again !!!!
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (May 7, 2007 1:55am)
IlDaDe,
This is definately NOT like the Superman. With this device you are never holding anything that isn't used logically during the routine. You never have a writting pen in hand, which you never write with during the effect. Also, you don't have to mess around with trying to secretly, mechanically, seperate and re-assemble any device in front of the audience. This method is super clean. I hope this helps!
Message: Posted by: Card-Shark (May 7, 2007 2:40am)
As I live in Germany I am asking if this QB2 will work with Euro coins. Has anybody out there experience with 1 or 2 Euro coins? (They are made out of two metals so I do not know if it will work.)

Thank you.
Message: Posted by: merlin5150 (May 7, 2007 12:41pm)
Card shark, I was presented with a Euro coin, I don't remember what coin it was but, it was bigger than a quarter and THICK!!! My QB2 bent it still. It wasn't as prominent as w/ american coins, still kicked its a**!! Jeff
Message: Posted by: gabelson (May 7, 2007 1:32pm)
This truly is the ultimate bend. Kudos to John. And one subtlety I love is that the QB2 affects the "dirty work" in such a way that the bent coin can actually be displayed as still straight AFTER the bend. Meaning that long after the work is done, you can easily make it seem as if the bend was done with nothing but your mind, your fingers- whatever you wish. It truly looks impossible.
Message: Posted by: donkeys and waffles (May 7, 2007 11:34pm)
Quote:

On 2007-05-07 13:32, gabelson wrote:
This truly is the ultimate bend. Kudos to John. And one subtlety I love is that the QB2 affects the "dirty work" in such a way that the bent coin can actually be displayed as still straight AFTER the bend. Meaning that long after the work is done, you can easily make it seem as if the bend was done with nothing but your mind, your fingers- whatever you wish. It truly looks impossible.




Is this possible with the QB1 ? I am considering getting an older one. Can the bent coin still be displayed as straight after the bend ? Thanks in advance.
Message: Posted by: lunatik (May 8, 2007 12:17am)
Possible with both. but to be truthful, I have handled both QB1 and QB2. and QB2 is like using a Cutco knife compared to a ginsu knife. if you did get the older QB and later handled a QB2, you'd be very very mad at yourself for trying to save a buck. Night and day difference between the two. The quality between the two is apples to oranges. I know the QB1 isn't flimsy, but compared to the QB2, it feels like a banana peel vs 2" thick piece of oak. just ask anyone who has had both and you'll see what I mean.
Message: Posted by: igam (Jun 18, 2007 3:14am)
Okay, I can't see how amy working performer could not fully appreciate what you get with QB2. You can do everything the hype says and have it done long before the spectator starts try to discover how you did it. This is a "No Heat" effect.

How pleased am I with my purchase of QB2? Enough that when my first one was lost with my airline luggage, I immediately went out and bought another one. I just wish I could see the look on the face of the guy that finally discovers the first one!

BTW-John, I'd sure like to hear an update about your plans for a DVD on this effect!

Best to all!
Igam
Message: Posted by: Bananafish (Jun 18, 2007 4:35am)
Well I have to say I am very tempted. I have, use and love Superman (the coin bender not the superhero) at the moment, and by all accounts QB2 IS significantly better.

Two questions beforse I spend though.
1. As Igam said - any news on teh DVD?
2. Are there any plans for a QB3? I'd hate to spend all that money only to find a QB3 is released a few weeks/months later.

Simon
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Jun 18, 2007 6:27am)
John sheets has most all of the submissions for the dvd and is compiling the best of the best. he's been out of town due to some shows and conventions. the dvd will be forthcoming not all that long from now. QB3? no such thing, it's as good as its going to get and there's nothing to improve on per John Sheets. Money well spent Banafish!! Go to his site, he still has a deal going on if I'm not mistaken
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Jun 18, 2007 11:54am)
<<happy dance happy dance>> The DVD at last!!!!
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Jun 20, 2007 12:13am)
Hello,
Thanks for all the positive e-mails! It's kinda hard to keep up with all of them sometimes. Yes, the DVD is in the works. I hope to have it out ASAP. It is currently in negotiations on who will release it. I have NO plans on a third version of the Quantum Bender (I just don't see how it can get any better!). At this time I am VERY busy with soo many projects and shows. I am also very busy with working on the DVD. Not to worry, it will happen, ASAP. Thanks again for all your support!!! :)
Message: Posted by: TrickyRicky (Jun 20, 2007 7:38am)
The Terminator/Quantum 2.0
How do they stack up against each other?
Richard.
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Jun 20, 2007 6:22pm)
With the terminator, there is almost 100% heat on the wallet. With the quantum bender, pretty much 1% heat. night and day difference between the two and the quantum bender is cheaper to boot.
Message: Posted by: MJ Marrs (Jun 20, 2007 8:22pm)
Quote:

On 2007-06-20 18:22, lunatik wrote:
With the terminator, there is almost 100% heat on the wallet. With the quantum bender, pretty much 1% heat. night and day difference between the two and the quantum bender is cheaper to boot.



I love my Quantum Bender 2.0; however, I also own and have gotten a lot of good use out of the Porper/Wilson Terminator Wallet. I DON'T find a "night and day difference between the two."

I agree that there is no heat on the QB, but with proper routining there isn't any heat on the TW either. As far as spectators are concerned with the TW, one is simply taking out a dollar bill or a similar item from a wallet, the wallet goes away--out of sight, out of mind--and then the bending takes place. Just like with the QB, the bending device of the TW is hidden in a common place object which is totally justified with being in play.

If I could only choose one, I'd go with the QB. However, I think that there is a time and place for both tools. I use the QB more for walkaround. Since I already have a couple of different wallets that I use during strolling routines, I don't want another wallet to carry for a coin bending routine. I use the TW mostly during close up shows when a table is available.

My 2 English Pennies...
Message: Posted by: DP the Great (Jun 21, 2007 4:59pm)
Do all of you guys who own this use it for Resturant Magic? That is my idea in buying this. Also, if you use this in a resturant routine, were do you put it? Is it good enough for a closer? Or do you put it in the middle? Is it fine for a table setting, or is it better to do it with the spectators staning? Those are the only things puzzeling me at the moment. Thanks -DP
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Jun 21, 2007 6:40pm)
The Quantum Bender 2 would be an awesome closer for any close up routine. where do you put it? front or back pocket. I personally prefer my back pocket, but either works just fine. You'll find more people using the Quantum Bender to bend coins than the Terminator, and usually that's because in my opinion a better product in the terms of justifiability and looking innocent. Bringing that wallet into play for a coin bend just isn't good in my opinion. With the Quantum Bender, you have the spec pull out a coin from their pocket, you hand them a sharpie to sign it, you take the pen back and the coin, put the pen back in your pocket, proceed to reveal in whatever fashion you please that the coin is now bent. Doesn't get any better than that!!
Message: Posted by: DougNicols (Jun 21, 2007 6:53pm)
Is the device refillable, or must you purchase a new one when it runs out or dries?
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Jun 21, 2007 7:05pm)
Absolutely nothing to fill. what you get WILL last you longer than you'll live on this earth and you won't have to buy anything to keep it working.
Message: Posted by: DP the Great (Jun 23, 2007 9:21pm)
Do you get some of the best reactions from this routine? Liquid Metal gets some of the best reations for me, which is a bent fork. Does the bent coin get the same reactions? The concern is that Liquid Metal has like 4 or 5 bends, so you have many beats and many magical parts, but the bent coin is only one beat and only one peice of magic. I want to know if the specatators go grazy after this regardless of the fact that it is not repeated. Thanks! -DP
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Jun 23, 2007 11:55pm)
You ask a spectator if they happen to have any change in their pocket and to pull it out. Then ask them to pick a coin, let's say they pick a quarter. You then hand them a sharpie and instruct them to sign/mark that same quarter on either side or both. After that you take the sharpie back and I have them notate the year, state, and usually have them blow on the quarter to make sure the ink has dried. You take the quarter back, patter, place the quarter back into their hand and have them concentrate and squeeze tightly. I patter a bit longer and have them open their hand very slowly. Upon opening completely, they see that their quarter that came from their pocket somehow started to melt in their hand and is bent. The reactions are amazing. A fork can be bent easily and some logic can be made from it if they think long and hard. A quarter? No. They know a quarter isn't going to be bent unless its placed in a vice and hit with a hammer or 2 pairs of pliers are used to do so. But they realize you had your sleeves rolled up, so all fears on your part are laid aside. It's totally up to you regarding the patter. You can make it a magic effect or a mentalism effect. I prefer mentalism as a lot of people actually believe "things" are happening from the world beyond.
Message: Posted by: takeachance (Jun 25, 2007 5:23pm)
If you have repeat customers, and some have seen it before so they will be burning you, how easy is the bend ( I'm not really strong)does it bend effortlessly, or require a little grunt!
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Jun 25, 2007 5:49pm)
The bend is easy. maybe a lil grunt if you can only benchpress a donut? for repeat customers, there's nothing really for them to see.
Message: Posted by: magicmanfrank (Aug 3, 2007 2:50am)
Are we any closer to having the QB2 DVD available????

=Frank=
Message: Posted by: merlin5150 (Aug 9, 2007 1:05pm)
Just wondering the same thing, anyone recieve theirs yet? Jeff
Message: Posted by: TheAmazingSteveo (Aug 14, 2007 3:47am)
QB2 continues to be one of my most valuable tricks/props. I have literally seen people stare at the coin for long periods of time after the trick has finished .. it really disturbs their reality!
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Aug 14, 2007 4:07am)
Yes, the project is near completion. Thanks for your patience.

Quote:

On 2007-08-14 03:47, TheAmazingSteveo wrote:
QB2 continues to be one of my most valuable tricks/props. I have literally seen people stare at the coin for long periods of time after the trick has finished .. it really disturbs their reality!


-I too have seen people spending long periods of time staring at the bent coin after the performance. Many times they don't put it away (into a pocket or purse), they just carry it around in their hand all night, rubbing & staring at it, and showing it to others. I have also had several people say that they will drill a hole in it & hang it from a necklace or keychain!! :)
Message: Posted by: denis_gbrg (Aug 19, 2007 9:19am)
Hi ,
Got a few questions about quantum bender ,hope you could help with.

1. Can it be done short sleeved?
2. Why the cost? $$ To keep the secret, ot the
materials its made of are actualy that expensive?
3. If its small as I expect, there sould be some funky mechanics
involved, I think.. Is there ant danger to hurt yourself?
4. And last one, Superman bend vs. Quantum 2 - is quantum really 10 times
better, as the price is?

thanks very much!
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Aug 19, 2007 10:52am)
1. You can do Quantum Bender 2.0 with no shirt on. At least have some decent muscles though, no potbellies allowed!
2. It does cost some $$ to have this made, but yes, it is priced to keep out of the hands of the curious. Without giving names, one certain famous magician (can't say due to certain reasons) honestly wants it priced at $1,000 to keep any more people from buying it.
3. Absolutely no danger in hurting yourself. I would feel save letting a baby play with it.
4. Once you use Superman and Quantum 2, you'll see that it's a night and day difference. Apples to oranges comparison. Dodge Caravan vs Porche 911 Twin Turbo.

I say this, get both as Superman is really cheap. It won't be but a day or two and the Superman will be collecting dust in a drawer.


Hope this helps!
Message: Posted by: denis_gbrg (Aug 20, 2007 7:27am)
On one of Ellusionist forums I see old post :

"
Originally Posted by Nick V
OK, I am taking the time now to edit this, simply to BOLD some the features here...
Bend their ACTUAL BORROWED, SIGNED COIN
BENDING at a TRUE RADIUS (the way a coin would REALLY BEND without the aid of tool force)
A smooth perfect unblemished bend
Absolutely NO TOOL MARKS EVER! ... Completely Clean
As AUTHENTIC as any metal bend of the mind could be... "


Does anyone know what he's talking about?
Message: Posted by: DP the Great (Aug 20, 2007 8:03pm)
It really is better than anything else avalible. I finally bought it and its fantastic! Very well made. Its comparable to gold. My magic buddy is super jealous. It is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better than superman or boa. Way better. Everyone here was saying it. I believed them and bought it. Now I am saying it too. Really good. But I am iching to see the DVD to get some more ideas...
-DP
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Aug 21, 2007 12:54am)
Hi DP the Great,

Thanks for your positive comments on the QB2 (Quantum Bender 2.0)! Also, please remember to return the included Registration card, and I will send you a DVD when they are done.

-Note to all who have asked: The DVD is in the works, we had to resolve a few issues with the filming. Also I have been crazy busy with shows. It is now back on track. Again, thanks for your patience, & your support!! :)
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Aug 21, 2007 9:15am)
Glad I sent my card in ;)!!!!

Message: Posted by: omnibozo (Aug 22, 2007 1:00am)
DP! You owe me be big time! Everything I said about the QB2 turned out to be true, didn't it? Now get yourself an Atomic Bills and you'll be set... until John's next top secret projects see daylight... (and he's doing 'em right this time with a dvd IN the package!).
Omnibozoologist
Message: Posted by: eSamuels (Aug 24, 2007 12:58am)
John.

Just got mine. Want to make sure that your offer of the DVD to those who return the registration card, still applies.



Message: Posted by: joanmonse (Aug 24, 2007 7:28pm)
Hi all.
What about bending euro coins, please?
Thanks in advance.
Joan
Message: Posted by: toph (Aug 24, 2007 8:26pm)
I know what I'm getting for christmas..PSY KEY USA VERSION, and QB 2!!
Message: Posted by: joanmonse (Aug 25, 2007 11:33am)
Sorry but,
I'm really interested on QB2 but I can't find nothing about EURO coins.
Please, let me know if you get some info about.
Thanks in advance!
Best.
Joan
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Aug 25, 2007 12:36pm)
You can bend euro coins
Message: Posted by: joanmonse (Aug 25, 2007 2:17pm)
Hi Lunatik!
First of all, thanks for your response to my request.
Please, can you be more specific?
Do you own a QB2 and are you using it with Euro coins?
Message: Posted by: Crimson-Death (Aug 26, 2007 6:27am)
Hello joanmonse

I found the following post for you regarding euro coins, though this is from 2003 and it refers to the original QB. Would version 2 do better with the coins? Very likely.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/search_post.php?topic=45466&forum=109&post=3459275

Quote:

On 2003-09-25 18:05, omnibozo wrote:
Great question about the Euros... I have some euros... but not enough that I care to actually bend them... but looking at the coins I can see that the 20c and 50c should be not problem... though they are a little thick and may require some practice. The one and two euro coins also look fine, though I don't know enough about the laminating process to predict how the two different metals will act to the bending process... though I suspect there should be no problem.

About the Kerran bender... the Quantum Bender solves several handling problems inherent in the Kerran bender. QB is much cleaner, more logical in at least two ways (you are already using part of the modus operandi and it is more logical to use this than the work-around necessary for the Kerran method). QB has no threads to strip in the dark.

Bob LaRue



I hope that helps.
Take care!
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Aug 26, 2007 10:54am)
I have the quantum bender 2. I've never bent a euro coin before as I'm from the USA, but I have read posts like the one Crimson-Death has posted by people who do live in europe and they have no problem with those coins. I think once you get it, you'll be in love!
Message: Posted by: joanmonse (Aug 26, 2007 5:39pm)
Thank you very much Crimson-Death and Lunatik for your help.
I just need to confirm it and run to buy this marvel!
Best.
Joan
Message: Posted by: Brane (Aug 29, 2007 1:46am)
Well, here's ANOTHER person raving about now owning QB2! I've been practicing for hours daily to get my fingers to do what they need to do without me peeking at my own hands! Typical magician rehearsal stuff! (Thanks for the tips, Lunatik!)
I've finally bent a few quarters for REAL people - not the mouth breather in the mirror! I'm deciding that slowly revealing the bend with a sort of rolling motion of thumb pushing/ rolling the quarter over the side of my forefinger is the most dramatic moment! It gives the quarter that 'drooping/ rubbery bending' look - as with a good spoon bend.
Everything everyone has said is true . . . they stare at the bent coin . . . and their own markings on it rules out their ONLY possible explanation. Talk about a 'pattern interrupt!'
It's been a long time since I've found a close up bit of wizardry that melts their minds so badly! NOW I'm drooling with anticipation over the DVD. (I DID send in the necessary card!)
Thanks to Mr. Sheets for this wonderful tool . . .
brane
Message: Posted by: giobbi1 (Sep 5, 2007 10:41am)
Just sent my card in. Hoping the DVD isn't several more weeks away. Any word on an eta?
Message: Posted by: moilima (Oct 15, 2007 3:40am)
I'm waiting the DVD release to get mine...
Message: Posted by: magicmanfrank (Oct 16, 2007 4:26am)
Hey John-

It's been close to Two Months since your last post on the DVD.

Do we have a release date yet???????

=Frank=
Message: Posted by: Alex Tan (Oct 16, 2007 4:38am)
Yes, we are eagerly waiting.
Message: Posted by: Bob Johnston (Oct 22, 2007 8:45pm)
The nice thing about the reveal in the spectators hand is this:

When you say "hold it very tight and you will feel it heating up and bending."

They will really feel some heat because it is seconds after the bend and there is indeed some heat.

Bob
Message: Posted by: magicmanfrank (Oct 22, 2007 8:49pm)
Oooo...Yaeh!

That's GOOD!

=Frank=
Message: Posted by: donkeys and waffles (Oct 22, 2007 11:02pm)
I am sold on it but I am waiting until I can just order the bender and the dvd will already be included. I want it all for my money, no cards to send in. I guess I am too lazy and don't trust the usps to get it where it needs to go. Any time frame on the dvd actually being sold with the bender together ? Thanks
Message: Posted by: davidlai308 (Oct 23, 2007 9:53pm)
John has pmed me and said the DVD is coming out very soon . We're all waiting eargerly I guess .
Message: Posted by: Bob Johnston (Oct 28, 2007 12:19am)
I think its a tribute to this forum that those of us that have the Q2 are helping other magicians evaluate the Q2.

However, I suspect, deep down inside, we would not feel bad if the price for it went up to $1,000.00 the day after we took delivery of it.

Bob
Message: Posted by: canasta (Oct 28, 2007 5:16pm)
Ha Ha...
classic Wellington- luv ya man.
Message: Posted by: bond19 (Oct 29, 2007 3:27pm)
Got the QB2 today... all as promised (thanks guys for all your comments, you effectivly nudged me into a decision to purchse and it paid off).. fanstatic prop!!

Can't wait for the DVD and to start using this for my coin bending!!
Message: Posted by: giobbi1 (Oct 30, 2007 11:56am)
Quote:

On 2007-10-22 23:02, donkeys and waffles wrote:
I am sold on it but I am waiting until I can just order the bender and the dvd will already be included. I want it all for my money, no cards to send in. I guess I am too lazy and don't trust the usps to get it where it needs to go. Any time frame on the dvd actually being sold with the bender together ? Thanks



I wish I had done this. It has been several weeks since I got mine and I really based about 75% of my purchase on the promise of a DVD that does not seem to be coming anytime soon. I am sure Jon is a stand up guy, but I have been burned a few times on creators promising a DVD or some other addition just to never have it come to fruition and I am hoping this isn't the case.
Message: Posted by: rowdymagi5 (Oct 30, 2007 12:06pm)
Reminds me of Nemo 1500, and the promised dvd in the instructions. It has been years. I doubt there ever will be a dvd.
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Oct 30, 2007 11:44pm)
Hi Guys,

I know the DVD has been a little slow in comming to light. I appologize about the delay. I have had several challenges while working on this project. Everything from waiting on other people, to myself being sick. I have also been extremely busy with shows too. I know, the wait stinks. I assure you, the wait for this Free DVD is well worth it. Finishing this project IS on the TOP of my list! Again, I will have it out asap, and thanks again for your patience.
Message: Posted by: giobbi1 (Oct 31, 2007 8:50am)
Quote:

On 2007-10-30 23:44, JTSmagic wrote:
Hi Guys,

I know the DVD has been a little slow in comming to light. I appologize about the delay. I have had several challenges while working on this project. Everything from waiting on other people, to myself being sick. I have also been extremely busy with shows too. I know, the wait stinks. I assure you, the wait for this Free DVD is well worth it. Finishing this project IS on the TOP of my list! Again, I will have it out asap, and thanks again for your patience.



With all due respect Jon, I understand that things come up and that you have your own business to run and shows to do. What you are telling us is the same thing we have been hearing for a few months now. What we really want is an eta. If the project is as far along as we are being told, then you should be able to at least ballpark the time frame. Thanks again for being willing to respond.
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Nov 1, 2007 1:00am)
Giobbi1,

Sorry, at this time I do not have an eta. These things usually take some time, and I'm not going to rush a shotty project out. Also, I will not back myself into a corner with a deadline. Yes, I have said that I am very busy, and have lately been dealing with some health issues. Please understand that I am basically a one man operation too. All I can say right now is the same thing that I have previously said, which is, it is in the works (BTW, I never said how far along the project is), it IS on the top of my list of projects to finish, and I'll have it out ASAP. I get emails about this almost daily, believe me, I want this out ASAP. And again, thanks for your patience. :)
Message: Posted by: Bendy (Nov 10, 2007 5:24pm)
I sooooo desperately want a QB2. Read the recent "Magic Fridays" review in Street Magic Magazine to my wife in hopes of backing up my previous reasoning on why I should get one. It's not flying with her. My magic is only a part-time gig at this point and I can't seem to justify spending that big a chunk of cash one one prop. I'll keep trying though. Maybe I'm wearing her down!!!
Message: Posted by: RayLum (Nov 10, 2007 9:56pm)
Man, I love this prop so much I bought TWO! If you are a working pro it's price way too low!
Message: Posted by: matt.magicman (Nov 17, 2007 5:46am)
If I order now do I get the dvd with it?
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Nov 17, 2007 10:39am)
Yes you will get the dvd when it is finished
Message: Posted by: nickivory (Nov 17, 2007 8:55pm)
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

I freakin lost my Quantum Bender! It must have fell out of my pocket somewhere. I used to carry this with me literally everywhere.

Now I must weep.

:(
Message: Posted by: billfromoregon (Nov 17, 2007 10:39pm)
BUUUUUUMER! There was one for sale here on the Café for $425.00, not sure if it is still available, but that is a great deal. My condolences -

Bill
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Nov 18, 2007 10:37am)
Pray nickivory pray it's not so.

Posted: Nov 18, 2007 4:35pm
Current bid on ebay is only $225. I'd almost bid on it just to have 2!
Message: Posted by: igam (Nov 19, 2007 4:00pm)
Re: Quantum Bender on eBay-

I just bought something else from this guy. He delivered fast and the item was in perfect condition. Based on this transaction, alone, I would highly recommend considering buying his QB2. I would get it myself, except that I already have a backup.

As for the QB2 iteself, N-O-T-H-I-N-G else comes even close. If you want to do the closest thing to real magic, buy this!

Igam
Message: Posted by: donkeys and waffles (Nov 21, 2007 7:45pm)
Quote:

On 2007-11-18 16:35, lunatik wrote:
Current bid on ebay is only $225. I'd almost bid on it just to have 2!



Wow, I was watching this too and it ended at 485 dollars with 20 dollars shipping. I can buy a new one for 525. I guess these things are crazy popular. I was hoping to get it for 300 or so. I don't know why someone would buy a used one or one on ebay for 30 or 40 dollars less ? I would rather just buy one from a respected dealer and if something wasnt right, they would take care of it.
Message: Posted by: DP the Great (Nov 23, 2007 11:39am)
Man, that darn DVD! Oh well, I havent sent out my card yet...I have been too busy studying. I just performed it yesterday for a family I met on thanksgiving day...that was the one thing out of my other amazing effects that they kept talking about...its not like a card trick or something that you could possibly do slight of hand...no, you did the impossible. I love looking at their faces as they look at that bent quarter over and over...it makes my day -DP
Message: Posted by: eSamuels (Nov 23, 2007 4:29pm)
This may be a dumb question (what's the old saying "there are no stupid questions..")!

Using a Sharpie, I often find the spec erases their own 'mark(s)' when I have them do the bend in their hands (heat, moisture, etc.) Suggestions?
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Nov 23, 2007 6:33pm)
After they sign it, I take it back and blow on it a couple of good times to dry it faster. in my routine, I don't have them 'try' to bend the quarter. my reasoning is that I don't want them to have even the sleightest clue as to what is coming next. they'll soon enough get the quarter back and realize that it can't be bent by human hands. so that should eliminate they trying to bend the quarter and rubbing off any signatures. if you must have them make sure that it can't be bent, have them try before they sign it.
Message: Posted by: donkeys and waffles (Nov 23, 2007 10:03pm)
Hate to "beat a dead horse" here but any thoughts on an ETA for the dvd ? I would love to purchase this effect as I am sold on the effect however, It has been 6 months since the initial talk of a dvd. I would feel much better about purchasing the QB2 when it comes WITH an instructional DVD. Any time frame ?

If it has been in the works for 6 months or so, you would think one could stand back at the project and say hmm..... I am about 80 percent done so it should be available by or around ...... time ? I mean no disrespect at all but would like to know a timetable on release date, more explicitly when the dvd and QB2 will be sold as one. thanks
Message: Posted by: Bob Johnston (Nov 24, 2007 1:41pm)
A DVD would be a nice bonus, but more than adequate instructions come with the QB2.

Bob

Quote:

On 2007-11-23 16:29, Stan Corrected wrote:
This may be a dumb question (what's the old saying "there are no stupid questions..")!

Using a Sharpie, I often find the spec erases their own 'mark(s)' when I have them do the bend in their hands (heat, moisture, etc.) Suggestions?


Heat and moisture do not make "dry" sharpie rub off.
Do you ask them to blow on the signature to make sure it is dry? That also makes them remember that they have marked the coin after the end of the routine.

Bob
Message: Posted by: magicmanfrank (Nov 24, 2007 10:47pm)
Quote:

On 2007-11-24 13:41, Wellington wrote:
A DVD would be a nice bonus, but more than adequate instructions come with the QB2.

Bob



You know Bob, I will have to disagree with you on that one.

I own the QB2 and have NEVER been able to perform it as I find the instructions lacking when it comes to teaching the actual loading & bending move.

I am just waiting, as we ALL ARE for the DVD to come out so that I can get a much CLEARER VISUAL of the working of it!

Some out there have had the luxury of getting Mr. Sheets to actually teach them in person.

I just have not been so lucky.

C'mon DVD, I've got a $500 prop that is just itchin' to be used!!!!

=Frank=
Message: Posted by: donkeys and waffles (Nov 27, 2007 11:22pm)
Eta on Dvd ?
Message: Posted by: joyce (Nov 27, 2007 11:43pm)
I have bought this also, but I cannot get full use of it without a instructional DVD. Hope this DVD will coming soon.
Message: Posted by: magicmanfrank (Nov 28, 2007 12:34am)
Quote:

On 2007-11-27 23:43, joyce wrote:
I have bought this also, but I cannot get full use of it without a instructional DVD. Hope this DVD will coming soon.



Well at least I'm not the ONLY one!
Message: Posted by: TheAmazingSteveo (Nov 28, 2007 2:37am)
I have to agree with everybody here about the DVD ... I think the QB2 is a fantastic item BUT I am VERY DISAPPOINTED in John not coming through on the DVD.
I really feel let down.
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Nov 28, 2007 4:01am)
Magicmanfrank,

I don't understand how you cannot have a grasp on this by now, with all the PM's and emails that I have personally exchanged with you. I have explained it to you a million times!...lol. I have broken it down, step by step, I've explained it with different terms and grammar. I've even had the author of the directions exchange several emails with you too, and he explained it to you in his own words. Again, please remember that it is a tool, with practice you will find what works best for you. Again, I suggest getting a roll of coins. Bend the whole roll. By the time you get to the end of the roll you should have a good idea of what's going on. Did you do that? or has it been sitting on your shelf this whole time? It's not that hard of a thing to do. Basically, you put a coin in, bend it, remove the coin. :)

TheAmazingSteveo,
I will come through. You can mark my words on that. I have explained the situation previously, and I am doing my best. I never gave you a release date or set a deadline on this project.
Again, I will have the DVD out ASAP. Believe me, I'm tired of hearing about it already. This DVD wasn't originally planned to be a part of the package. It was an after thought, intended to be an added free bonus that I wanted to produce on my free time and send out (to those who sent in the Registration card), to show my appreciation to my customers, and to give them some aditional advice, a visual, and some extra routines, etc..
Thanks again everyone for your patients. :)
Message: Posted by: magicmanfrank (Nov 28, 2007 4:29am)
John-

I know, I know, but it may very well be a million more times needed!

Look, I understand the basics:

1). put the coin in
2). bend coin
3). take coin out
4). Ta-Dah!!!

My problem is not the basics, but how to get from #1 to #4 in a smooth, fluent manner! I feel that this is just something that has to be taught by actually SEEING it done in person, and NOT by reading text!

I will admit that I am NO FAN of Magic Instructions!

Most read like stereo instructions when it deals with moves, and usually I have a hard time following along! Plus instructions rarely show you the subtleties
or the real tips on the workings.

I took this with me to Magic Live in hopes that I could find someone who had one that would be willing to help me in person, but alas, I could not find someone who would!

If I could just get someone to demo & teach the moves to me in Person or via DVD, then I'm sure I will be a happy camper!

=Frank=
Message: Posted by: giobbi1 (Nov 28, 2007 8:47am)
Quote:

On 2007-11-28 04:29, magicmanfrank wrote:
John-

I know, I know, but it may very well be a million more times needed!

Look, I understand the basics:

1). put the coin in
2). bend coin
3). take coin out
4). Ta-Dah!!!

My problem is not the basics, but how to get from #1 to #4 in a smooth, fluent manner! I feel that this is just something that has to be taught by actually SEEING it done in person, and NOT by reading text!

I will admit that I am NO FAN of Magic Instructions!

Most read like stereo instructions when it deals with moves, and usually I have a hard time following along! Plus instructions rarely show you the subtleties
or the real tips on the workings.

I took this with me to Magic Live in hopes that I could find someone who had one that would be willing to help me in person, but alas, I could not find someone who would!

If I could just get someone to demo & teach the moves to me in Person or via DVD, then I'm sure I will be a happy camper!

=Frank=



I totally agree with you Frank. I have been successful in the past following written instructions so I'm not an idiot, but the instructions with QB2 are lacking. Yes, it does give you the "mechanics" of what to do, but for something that is going to be as strong as I think this is going to be, I would like to see a presentation that shows the justification and timing of each phase. I have also had it for several months now. I bought it in plenty of time to have it for a large corporate gig I have coming up next week and it is still setting on a shelf because I don't feel comfortable doing it. As for the suggestion that we get a roll of coins and bend them, I can make the thing bend a coin, I just don't get the handling and timing from the instructions. I would settle for being e-mailed a 30 sec. mpeg of John doing it. Maybe he would give someone who does it well permission to do that. He has my registration information. I know John didn't promise an eta on the dvd, but I bought this solely on the faith that I would have had it long before now and would be comfortable in performing it. It is in Johns best interest as well for all of the purchasers to be able to perform this as smoothly as possible to avoid any accidental exposure. That would be the ultimate shame. Still, I am very excited about the potential of this effect.
Message: Posted by: TheAmazingSteveo (Nov 28, 2007 9:15am)
I think an online 3 minute video would be great of John performing the entire routine from start to finish for all registered users (that would satisfy me until the DVD is out).
Message: Posted by: Slappy (Nov 28, 2007 11:29am)
Can't someone just post something on Youtube? This is ridiculous.
Message: Posted by: magicmanfrank (Nov 28, 2007 11:35am)
Youtube would probably not be the best way, as it would be available to those that did NOT purchase a QB2.

HOWEVER, I DO think that it would be a great idea for Mr. Sheets to, (as mentioned above), make available some sort of a mpeg for those of us who DO HAVE a QB2 to help us out while the DVD is being worked on.

=Frank=
Message: Posted by: Neznarf (Nov 28, 2007 12:16pm)
This will sound stange....

Go to a bar and do the routine for drunk people
and that will build up your CONFIDENCE.

Then eventually you'll be able to do it on sober people.

I was a magic bartender for many years and.....there ya go.

I have the QB 1.0 and as they say, never leave home without it.

Nez
Message: Posted by: Royston South (Nov 28, 2007 2:02pm)
Hi Guys,

I to have this and it works! "easier than a double lift" under fire!.

I'm sure if I'm wrong John will let us know but you can see John T Sheets performing his routine on the "LVMI LIVE 2003" DVD.

Hope this helps,

Royston.
Message: Posted by: sabitu (Nov 28, 2007 4:07pm)
I can understand why some people are hesitant to perform with QB2 for fear of getting caught. I felt the same way when I first got mine and I agree that the instructions could have been clearer. So instead of of letting my QB2 sit in a drawer until the DVD came out, I practiced the loading, bending, and removal of the coin in front of a mirror until I felt comfortable with the moves. This is the first step you need to get down. Everyone's different, so do whatever feels the most comfortable to you.

Now I know the biggest fear people have is that the bend is too out in the open and they will get caught. Believe me, I know how you feel. Your mind will continue to come up with reasons why you shouldn't perform with the QB2, and the only way to disprove these thoughts is to actually get out there and do it! You have no way of knowing this will not work until you at least give it a try. Trust me, as long as you have a little misdirection no one will suspect a thing. As far as how to misdirect the spectators, I suggest those of you who haven't performed with the QB2 follow a routine similar to the one quoted below. You can find this post on the first page of this thread.

Quote:

On 2007-03-26 15:27, sbays wrote:
I keep hearing people here saying they cant hide the bending of the coin. Guys, the QB2 does the BENDING for you. It is up to YOU to routine it and use MISDIRECTION to hide it, just like any other move. Now, the QB2 has a perfectly logical reason for being there as it looks totally innocent and has been in play since the beginning. Trust me, it flies by everyone. Although I am not going to give away my current handling, here is just a quickie to help hide the work.

Ask them for a coin, or provide one yourself. While demonstrating with your hands, ask them to check the coin out to make sure it's real (If its your coin)making sure it doesn't come apart, bend or squirt liquid. (small chuckle there)Then have them sign or mark the coin anyway they like. You have basically conditioned them to the moves later when doing the work. Take the signed coin back and make a comment about letting it dry for a moment. Then, I take a few other coins out of my pocket and have them check those out the same way as the other. (The work is done here)It only takes a moment guys. By the time they are done, the work is done and the Qb2 is long gone. I then take the signed coin and the extra coins and have them open their hands and I give them the coins.

I do my mojo and have them concentrate on their coin, and when they open their hands, their signed coin is bent.

Scott



The key to this routine is to bend the coin while the spectator is looking at the extra coins you have given them. You can say something like, "Make sure the rest of those coins are solid and they don't bend or anything like that." As you say the word bend, this is the point where you actually bend the coin so that your words match your actions. And yes, you do this right in front of them. No one will notice, including any surrounding people watching. They have no reason to suspect anything.

At the very least try this out on some family members or friends. Or like Nez said, do it for drunk people. You will be nervous the first couple time you do this, but you'll get over it pretty quickly. Once you try it out you will realize that there is nothing to be afraid of.

Matt
Message: Posted by: Magic Arty (Nov 28, 2007 6:11pm)
Not to be over bearing or anything like that, but I think perhaps some of these posts should be deleted. they are a bit to close to being exposure rather than helpful. There is enough information out there for the general public to see that is damaging to our art. I know we like to be helpful to each other, however I think there needs to be a time when we do not share everything we know on a topic.

Arthur
Message: Posted by: Bob Johnston (Nov 28, 2007 10:33pm)
Arthur is right, there is way to much information being discussed on this thread. This fact is epitomizied by the suggestion (on this thread) that someone should do a You Tube demo. There are already dozens of kids doing coin bends on You Tube, a QB2 demo is just what I would not want anywhere.

The QB2 is so well constructed that you do not need any misdirection to work with it.

Bob
Message: Posted by: MJ Marrs (Nov 29, 2007 12:13am)
I agree about the whole YouTube thing: We definitely should NOT post a demo there due to the risk that everyone would find out that QB 2.0 uses a tomato to bend a quarter. Oh, man, I just exposed the gimmick...how do I delete this post...moderator--please delete!
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Nov 29, 2007 12:53am)
I know I've said this already, but, hang in there guys! I wont let you down, this DVD things gonna get finished asap! :)

Posted: Nov 29, 2007 2:33am
I agree, I don't want exposure either. Please delete what needs to be deleted. Also, please, no Youtube. Thanks.

Posted: Nov 29, 2007 4:34am
Royston South,
The performance on the "LVMI LIVE 2003" DVD was with the first version of the "Quantum Bender". The first version had it's drawbacks. The "Quantum Bender 2.0" is very much improved, which results in a smoother performance.
Message: Posted by: Darren Kidby (Dec 1, 2007 7:50am)
Hey John,
So what time frame are we really looking at, 1 week?, 1 month?, 3 months? a year?
As said up in previous posts it would not take a lot for you to video a small clip and mail it to those of us who are having difficulty.

Darren..
Message: Posted by: Sean Macfarlane (Dec 1, 2007 12:19pm)
I have one and I was a bit scared to do it, and over time I conquered the fear. I have my own routine that I do now, actually two. Just work with it and you will come up with your own way. You need to do it in front of real people though to really get the feel for it and when to do the bend. I do it while I am talking to them, right under their nose. They have no idea that the coin is going to be bent so they are not looking for it. Time misdirection. Just do it.

Sean
Message: Posted by: Bob Johnston (Dec 1, 2007 11:14pm)
I use the QB2 on a regular basis and find no need for misdirection, verbal or otherwise. It is the one thing about the QB2 (for me) that makes it so unique.

Bob
Message: Posted by: Steven Conner (Dec 2, 2007 11:38am)
How would the QB2 look on stage? That is, there is obviously a broader picture(area) for the audience to see than when performing close-up.
Message: Posted by: Bob Johnston (Dec 2, 2007 5:18pm)
The audience would never know they were looking at the QB2 if they did see it.
The question could well be, how would pennies dimes and quarters play on stage with an audience 10 to 100 feet away.

Close up only works (IMO) on stage if the subject you bring up is verbose and animated.

Bob
Message: Posted by: Darren Kidby (Dec 9, 2007 9:31am)
Hey John,
did you read my last question?

Darren...
Message: Posted by: Magic Arty (Dec 9, 2007 2:01pm)
Hey Darren, Many working guys are busy this time of year. Holiday partys and such put quite the demand on us and leave us with little to anything but get ready for the next gig.
John's last post said it would happen asap. Why can't you leave it at that?
Message: Posted by: Darren Kidby (Dec 10, 2007 6:33am)
Hey Arther,
As a busy Pro myself I know how busy people are,I just wanted a time frame, I bought my Quantum Bender a few months ago and still don't have any answers, and I asked the question to boost the post to the top so it doesn't get lost, I just want to use this great product and I want to use it correctly, therefore not expose the gimmick, I don't think it is to much to ask.

Darren...
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Dec 10, 2007 6:40pm)
Hi Darren,

Magic Arty said it well. This is an extremely busy time of year. Again, this project IS on the top of my "Must Finish ASAP" list of things to do. I have been receiving email, and phone calls (even snail-mail too!) about this project, almost daily. There is no "time frame", because my intentions are to have it out ASAP.
Everybody has their own way to hold the QB2 & do the bend in a way that feels comfortable and natural to them. Some people hold the device with their thumbs on one side, while some hold it with their thumbs on the opposite side. Different performers do the actual bend at different moments during the routine too. They do what feels most natural to them. It is basically a "nack" that must be practiced to do smoothly. I recommend getting a roll of coins. Bend all of them. By the time you bend that many, you will have a better feel for it. It will get ALLOT easier with time & practice.I am happy to help you as much as I can. Please spend some time with the device, experiment with it. I think you'll like it (or like most people, love it!). Please let me know how it comes along and if there are any more questions that I can answer for you. Thanks.
Message: Posted by: donkeys and waffles (Dec 11, 2007 12:32am)
Quote:

On 2007-12-09 14:01, Magic Arty wrote:
Hey Darren, Many working guys are busy this time of year. Holiday partys and such put quite the demand on us and leave us with little to anything but get ready for the next gig.
John's last post said it would happen asap. Why can't you leave it at that?



Maybe because it was at the top of his list almost NINE MONTHS AGO brother. The fact that he is going to be busy this time of yr should have been taken into consideration. I think we are all wanting to have a dvd to be able to use this 600 dollar effect. I get dvds with 20 dollars gimmicks, so I think the creator popping on here and saying, " I havent forgotten about you guys" has grown old to many on the thread. I am waiting to purchase until the dvd is completed and I would be very unhappy for shelling out the cash and not feeling comfortable performing it because I didn't have a dvd showing methods. If it was 2 or 3 months and no dvd, that is pushing it. I think 9 months is ridiculous. I can have a dvd made in 4 days and duped 500 times in a week. We are not talking about how to build a spaceship. You stand in front a black background, have a camera and a boom mic, and proceed to explain the effect, patter,handlings etc... Take it to the editing room and finish. 6 months, I mean no disrespect but come on... I think Darrens question was totally valid, if John hasnt forgotten about this, a time frame is something that should easily be figured out unless it hasnt been worked on at all. Noone is flaming John but everyone should surely agree that a secure site to view it or a dvd should have been completed looooooonnnng before now.
Message: Posted by: sabitu (Dec 11, 2007 12:45am)
Give John a break, he's providing this DVD to owners of QB2 for FREE. This isn't something he has to do and the fact that he is making a DVD is very generous. I can understand the impatience but the DVD really isn't necessary in order to perform with QB2. What do you think people owning QB1 and QB2 did way back when the idea for a DVD wasn't even on the table yet?

Matt
Message: Posted by: donkeys and waffles (Dec 11, 2007 12:52am)
[quote]
On 2007-12-11 00:45, sabitu wrote:
Give John a break, he's providing this DVD to owners of QB2 for FREE. This isn't something he has to do and the fact that he is making a DVD is very generous. I can understand the impatience but the DVD really isn't necessary in order to perform with QB2. What do you think people owning QB1 and QB2 did way back when the idea for a DVD wasn't even on the table yet?

Matt


Well, if you read the whole thread, you will see that A LOT of guys/gals aren't using them. I agree that it is generous but please don't start with the "give John a break" posts. He mentioned it and we got excited. It has been 9 months and nothing, enough said.
Message: Posted by: whitefish (Dec 11, 2007 6:58am)
I use mine all the time, you bend a borrowed signed coin and bend it, can't beat it for reactions or leaving a lasting memory.
One point though, I just had a gig in Germany and you can't bend Euro, not sure what those things are made from but they won't bend an inch!

Wayne
Message: Posted by: Crimson-Death (Dec 11, 2007 7:13am)
What I do not understand is why people would spend that much money on this gimmick, about $ 600 more or less, knowing that this did not include a DVD, but only written instructions, and then not use the gimmick because there is not a DVD showing methods to use it. Are there really people in that situation?

I knew full well that there was no DVD included. I knew full well that the written instructions were difficult to follow through in actual performance because I researched through all the QB2 threads I possibly could before spending so much money on something. So my logical conclusion was that I was going to have to come up with a personal method for me to make it work in actual performance. And if I was going to spend that much money on this I better have the knowledge and skills as a performer to customize a personal method for my own routine. I better find a way to get comfortable using the QB2, with DVD or without.

Yeah, it would be nice to have a free DVD, not included with the gimmick, showing JT's methods, the creator's methods. But I would rather wait for a properly done video with tips and ideas, like John seems to be doing, rather than a DVD "made in 4 days and duped 500 times in a week." The time frames and processes necessary to make a PROPER DVD are alien to me, and I am ignorant of the commitments John has to attend to first. So even though NINE MONTHS is a LONG TIME to wait, I will give John a break for making something FREE for me that I was not entitled to in the first place. In the meanwhile, I will have some fun performing using the gimmick with my own method.
Message: Posted by: whitefish (Dec 11, 2007 7:16am)
Well put.
Message: Posted by: Crimson-Death (Dec 11, 2007 7:21am)
Quote:

On 2007-12-11 06:58, whitefish wrote:
I use mine all the time, you bend a borrowed signed coin and bend it, can't beat it for reactions or leaving a lasting memory.
One point though, I just had a gig in Germany and you can't bend Euro, not sure what those things are made from but they won't bend an inch!

Wayne



Hmm, that's too bad, because there were some people asking about the Euros a while back. I guess now we know for sure, but there must be some Euro coins you can bend, no?
Message: Posted by: whitefish (Dec 11, 2007 7:38am)
Only the very small ones I.e 10 cents and below.

I actually raided an old coin collection so I had a load of old coins plus I added some uk 10p and quarters. I made sure that there was lots of different types of coins and this went down just as good. In fact everyone had a great time picking out the coin they wanted as they were some pre-euro coins in there that they loved. Plus as an added bonus they thought it was even more amazing because they thought they had a completly free choice which they did, because I could bend them all!
I have loads of these coins so they should last me for the odd Europe gig.
Remember just emphasize that you have some coins and they can pick any one, its their choice.....
Message: Posted by: Steven Conner (Jan 8, 2008 8:05am)
Any update on the QB2 DVD?
Message: Posted by: giobbi1 (Jan 8, 2008 1:17pm)
I haven't heard anything. I check here every day.

update:

It's been 2 months since the last update on the dvd. I wonder if this is still on the top of the "must finish asap" list? John, any closer to completion?
Message: Posted by: swtrocks (May 11, 2008 7:39pm)
And another 4 months goes by...
Message: Posted by: VIEW (May 12, 2008 6:12am)
Anyone have a qb2 to sell?
Message: Posted by: giobbi1 (May 12, 2008 8:24am)
There should be several to sell since obviously no DVD is coming. About 60 more days and mine might be for sale. I'm tired of waiting and being lied to. I'll post it if I decide to sell it.
Message: Posted by: 2003 user (May 12, 2008 8:34am)
I don't think a DVD is so important if you are a working magician. I got mine and perform it ready a year without the DVD.
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (May 12, 2008 10:59am)
Its true - I use the QB2 daily... no problemo - developed my own style and routines with it BUT I still would love to see the Master Creator in action some day ;)
Message: Posted by: Steven Conner (May 12, 2008 11:28am)
Quote:

On 2008-05-12 10:59, Dr Spektor wrote:
Its true - I use the QB2 daily... no problemo - developed my own style and routines with it BUT I still would love to see the Master Creator in action some day ;)



All is very true and the discussion of a DVD does go back to March of '07. After a year, you would think that if nothing else, go out and just shoot live performances and forget editing, just duplicate and send out. I can think of a couple of slogans. Get 'er done and Just do It!! Help us out here John.

Steve
Message: Posted by: magicmanfrank (May 12, 2008 12:25pm)
Quote:

After a year, you would think that if nothing else, go out and just shoot live performances and forget editing, just duplicate and send out. I can think of a couple of slogans. Get 'er done and Just do It!! Help us out here John.

Steve



That is exactly what I think!!!

I don't need any fancy titles or editing, just a clear view of the WORKINGS!

This could be done in one afternoon, but alas........

=Frank=
Message: Posted by: giobbi1 (May 12, 2008 2:19pm)
Quote:

On 2008-05-12 08:34, 2003 user wrote:
I don't think a DVD is so important if you are a working magician. I got mine and perform it ready a year without the DVD.



Your reply really hit a nerve with me. This is probably the longest post I've ever made and most assuredly the strongest statement I have ever made on here. The main reason is I very much realize that differences of opinion and outlooks are what make this board an interesting read so I have never been so arrogant to think my opinion was the only one. Also, I know there are a certain group of "Untouchables" on here that you don't dare say anything negative about and John is in that class. However, the truth is the truth.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion and I am glad you were able to work this out and get your uses out of it. I have many tricks myself that I learned without the aid of a dvd. I am a part time worker who stays fairly busy so I resent your implication that anyone who wants the dvd isn't as proficient as you or working as much. That is a very arrogant statement since you have no idea who you are insulting or their credentials for performing. You don't think the dvd is important. I don't care. I DO! I didn't tell you how much of a worker I am to convince you the dvd is needed just as your statement didn't convince me it isn't. As has been stated on here many times, someone who has to tell you how much of a worker they are are usually a legend in their own mind.

I have my own reasons for wanting the dvd and I bought this effect on the promise that a dvd was coming SHORTLY. Months later is not SHORTLY. Also, in the meantime, John has released another effect for $150.00 COMPLETE with a dvd, so he has had the time. In my opinion only, it comes down to this, he has sold the majority of the QB2's he is going to sell and there is no more money to be made by finishing the dvd. MOST people who wanted one have them so there is no marketing or financial reason for him to do so. I personally don't think he has any intention of finishing it. If he did, it would have been done before Nailed It. Also, as stated before, I don't even care if it's a fully edited slick dvd. I just wanted to see a couple performances from a couple different angles. 2 min. max. That's all. I would even accept it if he just came on here and said he has no intention of doing it. That is all I want to discuss this. I get no joy or pride out of hammering someone. I am very sure John is a nice guy and a good friend to the people who know him. I'll just continue to wait to see if he keeps his word. At some arbitrary deadline in my head, my QB2 will be for sale. Maybe you need a spare.
Message: Posted by: kiss_bpp (May 12, 2008 5:06pm)
I would have to say you nailed it giobbi1!!! However I truely doubt there will ever be a true end to this one. I have considered selling mine myself but I can't bring myself to it. Not after spending my money on a "Patented" Utility device.
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (May 12, 2008 6:06pm)
Besides, QB2 is excellent... why sell it?

But I agree, a chop-poorly edited DVD would be wonderful gravy!
Message: Posted by: giobbi1 (May 13, 2008 8:26am)
I agree Dr. Spektor. As disappointed as I am about being lied to, this is one of a few effects that I believe would live up to it's hype. I really believe it is that good. It's just a shame that John refuses to keep his word. Some of us feel we are out a trick. He is out his reputation to me.
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (May 24, 2008 9:45pm)
Hi Guys,

The QB2 DVD is near completion. The performance segments are edited and finished. I am now finishing up the explanation segments. I thought that I would post the performance segments for you now, rather than keeping you waiting longer. Here is a video with different short clips. This video also includes three full length performances, with NO camera edits, and from different angles. I hope that this will help, as many of you said that it would.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYlTe-2PO90
Message: Posted by: sabitu (May 24, 2008 10:11pm)
Wow, his handling of the QB2 was impressive. Very smooth and quick. Thanks for the preview John.

Matt
Message: Posted by: lunatik (May 25, 2008 1:59am)
Everyone now should know why the QB2 is the Rolls Royce of coin benders :) Lowering the price to have Ell*sionist and P*nguin kids posting Youtube how-to clips would be a travesty. I believe it's priced right and is worth every cent! Get one now, you never know if the price will be raised!!
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (May 25, 2008 2:21pm)
Nice! Heck, that clip was wonderful - it showed me your entire routining for the deed... wow - as mentioned above - super quick... that DVD will be gold!
Message: Posted by: giobbi1 (May 26, 2008 9:58am)
Thank you John. That does help a lot. Since I have been one of the biggest critics on here, I wanted to be one of the first to say those clips give all of the information I have been asking for and I should now be well on my way to practicing and eventually performing QB 2.0 Thanks again for putting this up while we wait for the completed DVD. I'm sure it will have additional tips, but this is a huge leap forward.
Message: Posted by: DougNicols (May 26, 2008 1:41pm)
Watching that video has convinced me to buy the QB2!
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (May 27, 2008 9:12pm)
Wow, thanks for all the great feedback!! The QB2 video shows just a basic routine. I decided to show the most basic routine, leaving the rest for the DVD. There will be a ton of stuff on the DVD.
Also, I did included the "work" onto the trailer video (unlike other videos). I did not want to be deceptive with those who might be interested in it. I also knew that everyone here would see the "work", as it was intended to show an example of how easy it is to use and operate.
Thank you everyone, for all of your support.
Message: Posted by: takeachance (May 27, 2008 9:33pm)
When will you be mailing these out, not sure were my rego papers are since its been a while since I bought it direct from you. Hopefully you have my name on your mailing list
cheerz
Neil M
Sydney Australia
Message: Posted by: VcosNJ (May 27, 2008 9:53pm)
That does look good. :)
Message: Posted by: gabelson (May 29, 2008 1:37am)
Gotta tell ya, John's talent aside, the QB2 is the ONLY coin b#$#@r made where the "work" can be displayed so openly. I do this daily (not nearly as well as John), and I have yet to be caught. But mostly, I'd like to tip my cap to John's truthfulness in advertising. In this magickal world, filled, unfortunately, with rip-offs, false advertising, bogus claims, empty promises, and slick, MTV-style, avant-garde promos designed to hide the shoddy or obvious mechanics of a less-than-practical effect, the QB2 is a product that DELIVERS, and John proves it... right out in the open... under your nose. Pricey? Heck, you can spend a lot more for a lot less... and usually will.

Bravo.
Message: Posted by: gdw (May 29, 2008 11:51am)
Might I ask, what is the difference between the QB and the QB2?
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (May 29, 2008 12:39pm)
Awesome video.....perhaps I can save some bent quarters up for this one day. Anyone have any success stories of how long it took them to get smooth with this?
Message: Posted by: Steve Suss (May 29, 2008 12:51pm)
I've been happily bending quarters for almost a year now using the QB2. It is always one of the most effective and talked about things I do. After viewing the video I noticed some subtlties that will make the bending even more deceptive. I'm glad John is making this video and look forward to learning as much as I can using this great method.

Steve
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (May 29, 2008 2:55pm)
I am right handed and my right front jeans pocket is for PW always. WIll I have to learn something unnatural if I keep the QB2 and the Sharpie in my "left" front jeans pocket for retrival and going south when done? I have to wear jeans for my regular western gig.

PS: I like having the quarter bend/melt in the specs hands, I find this more towards a mentalist performance. Both are very good however especially when no s****ch is involved.
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (May 29, 2008 3:09pm)
QB2 is sturdier and can withstand a nuclear blast.

Candini, left pocket front no problem - people are so misdirected you could palm an elephant and load it into a spec's ear
Message: Posted by: lunatik (May 29, 2008 6:13pm)
I keep mine in my right back pocket. sometimes I switch it to my left back pocket for variety. either way works great
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (May 29, 2008 7:50pm)
Thanks guys...

Posted: May 30, 2008 11:42am
After seeing the video I was just curious about the risk of using the QB as the title. Any fear of a googler? Maybe just my paranoia of exposure.
Message: Posted by: Tim Trono (May 30, 2008 3:56pm)
I spent quite a bit of time with John going over his handling and many touches... wait until you see all of the great thinking John has on this. It's really wonderful. John's ideas make this a miracle.

Tim
Message: Posted by: omnibozo (Jun 1, 2008 6:57pm)
John's too polite to do this, but what the hey... I'll go for it...
We TOLD you so!

Bob LaRue
Omnibozo
Message: Posted by: magicman899 (Jun 2, 2008 4:45pm)
Is the gimmick more or less the same design between QB and QB2?
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Jun 2, 2008 6:50pm)
Hi magicman899,

There is a huge difference in quality, materials, craftsmanship, ease of use, and leverage. The first version was good at the time, but is nothing compared to the second version now. I hope this helps. :)
Message: Posted by: gabelson (Jun 2, 2008 7:44pm)
Holy grail of benders, IMHO.
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Jun 6, 2008 3:25pm)
Okay, mine arrived about 1.5 hours ago. I got a good deal on a new one and I can tell you I was nervous about such a major purchase. I can make it up working gigs but still, I have been burnt or just could not find something to suit my needs and a quick sale imminent in the last few years. I do fork and spoon bending under noses regularly so perhaps I can get use to this quicker since it is sooo bold?

Anyway, I started out right away with a quarter bend. This thing is made for quarters by the way. My biggest problem is thinking I will break it. So, it took be sometimes twice to get the bend. Then, I oriented it in my hands and went through penny after penny. I put on my jeans and went through my whole presentation in front of the mirror. The only con I have right now is nothing to do with the QB2 but since I wear jeans where I perform 90 pct of the time, I found my butt has gotten just a tad bigger so I will jog here shortly. My back pocket of my jeans is pretty tight so alternatively I can use my front left pocket but I want to try and make this work to the rear, harch.

John and others who have helped me, a big thanks! You may see a big surprise coming out later this year and no I will not tell you what. I hope like many others the price will go up on this. I would hate to see someone using this and not giving it respect. I do not promote too many products (well perhaps a few hypes as a joke before I actually see them) but this is one I will use.

Oh yeah, I tried it out on my 12 yr old daughter twice with pennies. I put about 75 pct of my presentation in the 2nd performance and she was convinced its that good (no clue on what it is). Now this is after receiving this today mind you. I have a 3 hr strolling gig tomorrow and I plan on being ready. Muscle memory (martial arts) is very important so practice is worthy of QB. Oh yeah, for the quarter, it took me two bends a few times after working with pennies so this something to watch. I use two hands for any coin right now. I think pennies may be a bit harder to get use to because of the way its set but it does not take long to figure this out. That's all folks.
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Jun 6, 2008 7:05pm)
Pennies is the only one I can do 1 handed. I do the bend under the guise of stretching and it's done in second. quarters definitely take 2 hands.
Message: Posted by: takeachance (Jun 6, 2008 8:18pm)
If you use your thigh it doesn't.
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Jun 6, 2008 9:05pm)
LOL, you he-men........I tried one handed but it may require more leverage, will have to work on it.

I do my spoon b***s the way you do the one hand method Lunatik. And in a second also.....great disguise.

Posted: Jun 8, 2008 12:56am
I just got this yesterday and used it all night tonight for a 3 hr strolling gig. Great reactions. I'm a mentalist and can do it:) Even a few times when I fumbled and was surrounded it worked wonderfully. I love having the coin get warm and bend in their hands.

The last group were rowdy and liquored up. The guy still swore I switched it. I backtracked and explained every step. I would hate to do a switch again and have to put up with this. I know many never do hear it but all crowds are different.

Funny how only the majority of folks seem to have change anymore. A few times they pulled out nickels. Although I have already bent some nickels in practice, I ask them if they have anything else. This is a great calling card to leave with someone. You see them looking at it and passing it around after.

SO glad I made a great utility purchase.
Message: Posted by: Jerome Finley (Jun 8, 2008 1:54am)
For what it's worth, I pull out two markers and casually hand the participant one of them, requesting their mark on the coin. I never switch and I've bent hundreds and hundreds of coins with my QB2 and have never been busted or called on this handling or discrepancy.

The work is done so fast and smoothly; I simply put the QB away and go into the bend. Folks don't ever notice or remember both being in play.

I also agree with Gabe - the QB2 IS the Holy Grail of coin benders, period. This isn't up for discussion, it IS the best coin bender available :) :) :) (I've owned both versions and practically every other bender out there, going all the way back to Yuval's gimmick and varied other utilities many years before that.)

Best,
Jerome
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Jun 8, 2008 6:26am)
Nice Jerome! Do you take back the Sharpie from the spectator after they finish writing with it or after you complete the actual bend?
Message: Posted by: sleightofand (Jun 8, 2008 6:50am)
WHAT!!!! Ł550 for a coin bend!!! you must be joking!! I don't care how great it is. I much prefer to pre bend a coin and switch it out and use a topit to ditch the other one!! much cheaper and same sort of reaction I guess too!!
Message: Posted by: Andi Peters (Jun 8, 2008 7:07am)
I sold my QB2 for the much cheaper coinvexed and have had exactly the same reactions to a signed coin bend. I used the cash I saved to buy the Telethought Wallet, Osterlind's DVDs and David Regal's new book. Much better value!

Well done David Penn on sticking it to the QB 2.0
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Jun 8, 2008 9:52am)
$550 bucks, not GBP :)

Also, I use 2 coins - as I give them one to try bending themselves with their "brawn" - I do the work in the split second or even in front of there face while I'm telling thm to bend it... then I tell them to keep it as watch... do the "bend" in front of them or in their hands.... and tell thm to keep the coin as the coin is now destroyed...

This helps show all coins are in the specs hands... tons o' misdirection... you also appear a champ for replacing the destroyed money... etc.

One handed quarter can be done... thigh... or table... think Uri Geller.... but really, you don't have to... watch the vid of John... you can do I under their noses... its all magicians guilt... think of when you were a palming virgin... (boy does that sound bad!)
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Jun 8, 2008 10:24am)
Quote:

On 2008-06-08 07:07, Andi Peters wrote:
I sold my QB2 for the much cheaper coinvexed and have had exactly the same reactions to a signed coin bend. I used the cash I saved to buy the Telethought Wallet, Osterlind's DVDs and David Regal's new book. Much better value!

Well done David Penn on sticking it to the QB 2.0



Sticking it to QB2 hahaha. Please do us a big favor and post a clip of a full performance of Coinvexed with no cuts and no camera misdirection. Ohhhhh, wait a second, you won't because there's too much fiddling going on in trying to get 2 different gimmicks into play and ditched! We'll be waiting for this new clip of yours :)
Message: Posted by: Andi Peters (Jun 8, 2008 10:31am)
Quote:

On 2008-06-08 10:24, lunatik wrote:
Quote:

On 2008-06-08 07:07, Andi Peters wrote:
I sold my QB2 for the much cheaper coinvexed and have had exactly the same reactions to a signed coin bend. I used the cash I saved to buy the Telethought Wallet, Osterlind's DVDs and David Regal's new book. Much better value!

Well done David Penn on sticking it to the QB 2.0



Sticking it to QB2 hahaha. Please do us a big favor and post a clip of a full performance of Coinvexed with no cuts and no camera misdirection. Ohhhhh, wait a second, you won't because there's too much fiddling going on in trying to get 2 different gimmicks into play and ditched! We'll be waiting for this new clip of yours :)


Thanks for proving my point.
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Jun 8, 2008 11:29am)
Clip coming soon? Didn't think so. Thanks for proving MY point :)
Message: Posted by: Andi Peters (Jun 8, 2008 11:34am)
Quote:

On 2008-06-08 11:29, lunatik wrote:
Clip coming soon? Didn't think so. Thanks for proving MY point :)


If I wanted to impress 12 year olds I'd post a video of me using QB2 on YouTube.

As I work in the real world Coinvexed does an equally good job for less than a third of the price. That's the point I was making.

Have fun being an internet magician. I'm off to a real world gig.

Andi :-)
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Jun 8, 2008 2:48pm)
I think you'll find more 'working' pro's using QB2. Coinvexed does not do an equally good job in comparison to the QB2. Btw, where's the clip of Coinvexed, start to finish with no cuts or camera misdirection? Ohhhhhhhhh, schnaaaps!! Have fun performing at Goodwill :)
Message: Posted by: gabelson (Jun 8, 2008 2:55pm)
Quote:

On 2008-06-08 11:34, Andi Peters wrote:
Quote:

On 2008-06-08 11:29, lunatik wrote:
Clip coming soon? Didn't think so. Thanks for proving MY point :)


If I wanted to impress 12 year olds I'd post a video of me using QB2 on YouTube.

As I work in the real world Coinvexed does an equally good job for less than a third of the price. That's the point I was making.

Have fun being an internet magician. I'm off to a real world gig.

Andi :)




Hey, pliers do an equally good job, too. But I wouldn't pull them out in front of a spec. One item, one piece, one coin, no fiddling. An organic, everyday item. Don't even have to ditch the darn thing. For me, it's a slam-dunk.

If Coinvexed works for you, that's great. You certainly have better pocket management skills than I do.
Message: Posted by: Andi Peters (Jun 8, 2008 3:30pm)
Quote:

On 2008-06-08 14:48, lunatik wrote:
I think you'll find more 'working' pro's using QB2. Coinvexed does not do an equally good job in comparison to the QB2. Btw, where's the clip of Coinvexed, start to finish with no cuts or camera misdirection? Ohhhhhhhhh, schnaaaps!! Have fun performing at Goodwill :)


Do you only ever perform for the camera?

Posted: Jun 8, 2008 3:38pm
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Hey, pliers do an equally good job, too. But I wouldn't pull them out in front of a spec. One item, one piece, one coin, no fiddling. An organic, everyday item. Don't even have to ditch the darn thing. For me, it's a slam-dunk.
[/quote]
I suppose you pay the extra money for a trick that does more of the work for you.

It's a trade-off I don't mind making based on my current skill set.
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Jun 8, 2008 3:47pm)
Like I said in my review of both products, both will do the job, just one does it better. In my opinion, Coinvexed is the #2 bender on the market, far above the others. Bang for your buck? You definitely get it with Coinvexed. Rolls Royce versus a BMW, both are nice, but one has an edge over the other. If you have the money for either of the two, pick up the QB2. If you're strapped for cash, get Coinvexed!
Message: Posted by: Andi Peters (Jun 8, 2008 3:50pm)
Quote:

On 2008-06-08 15:47, lunatik wrote:
Like I said in my review of both products, both will do the job, just one does it better. In my opinion, Coinvexed is the #2 bender on the market, far above the others. Bang for your buck? You definitely get it with Coinvexed. Rolls Royce versus a BMW, both are nice, but one has an edge over the other. If you have the money for either of the two, pick up the QB2. If you're strapped for cash, get Coinvexed!


Cool.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

No point falling out over a couple of benders!
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Jun 8, 2008 6:21pm)
Quote:

On 2008-06-08 11:34, Andi Peters wrote:
Quote:

On 2008-06-08 11:29, lunatik wrote:
Clip coming soon? Didn't think so. Thanks for proving MY point :)


If I wanted to impress 12 year olds I'd post a video of me using QB2 on YouTube.

As I work in the real world Coinvexed does an equally good job for less than a third of the price. That's the point I was making.

Have fun being an internet magician. I'm off to a real world gig.

Andi :)



Funny.....come on guys. Its the end result that counts. I have not seen the coinvexed but love the QB2. Its whatever suits your needs. The ease of use of the QB2 and most importantly the very small versatile everyday least pocketspace required nature to me is hard to beat.

Now if anyone wants to post a Sw***h is better I would have to say cheaper but not better. I love it when the spectator mentions a switch now. I like my patter reply back at him much better then I do prior to the bend. It sells and seals the impossibility of the bent coin in a much bigger way. In fact, I brought up the impossibility of it all when the effect was finished last night. What does one say after a sw***h and the spectator says that's not my coin. "You are a liar dude" may not land you any future gigs with the client.

I'm not sure how long Coinvex takes to get use to but Im not great at sleight of hand and a real world performer. QB2 arrived and the next day Im using it for a long gig.

PS: I like the presentation of the Coinvex on the video demo. :)
Message: Posted by: gabelson (Jun 8, 2008 6:32pm)
Consider: You first bend a coin using a sw**tch. Then, you're asked to repeat it. Now, you use Neil Tobin's brilliant X-Pert with a "marked" coin so they can keep track of it. Everyone's raving about your "ability", and tells another couple of people to watch what you did. Now, you tell THEM to sign the coin, and bend it using your QB2 (or Coinvexed). Finally, you do a bend for the fourth time (in front of the original 'fans' of yours), and you utilize Andrew Gerard's BRILLIANT "Psych". They see the coin bend twice, and you're clean.

Combining methods that cancel each other out, is a great way to get people to really scratch their heads.
Message: Posted by: omnibozo (Jun 9, 2008 12:59am)
I'm not skilled enough to perform for a youtube video, so I just muddle along performing for real live audiences with my subpar QB2 routine. I can only seem to handle a one-piece bender. If I was a REAL magician and practiced a lot I guess I'd be fine with using two separate pieces plus the coin, and maybe even some totally secret cords running up both sleeves (so I could look real cool walking around with my elbows pressed to my sides!), and I'll bet with enough practice I could even line up the doodads well enough to get a good bend without leaving those nasty tool marks on the coin. But I'm just not that good.
Bob LaRue
Omnibozo
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Jun 9, 2008 1:19am)
Quote:

On 2008-06-09 00:59, omnibozo wrote:
I'm not skilled enough to perform for a youtube video, so I just muddle along performing for real live audiences with my subpar QB2 routine. I can only seem to handle a one-piece bender. If I was a REAL magician and practiced a lot I guess I'd be fine with using two separate pieces plus the coin, and maybe even some totally secret cords running up both sleeves (so I could look real cool walking around with my elbows pressed to my sides!), and I'll bet with enough practice I could even line up the doodads well enough to get a good bend without leaving those nasty tool marks on the coin. But I'm just not that good.
Bob LaRue
Omnibozo


Tell me about it. The only thing I would be hired for as a magician is a 4 yr old birthday party. Crap, I go on you tube and I see 8 yr old magicians with amazing talent. Glad I do not have to compete with those kids.

Anyone planning on buying the QB2 please treat it with respect and milk the presentation for all its worth. QB2 will do its job but you have to do yours also.

I forgot all about lack of tool marks Saturday during the QB debut. Another piece of great information I left out to cancel out any backtracking. Thanks Bob.

Posted: Jun 10, 2008 11:36pm
Our only Ace Hardware store is not helpful. With the economy tanking, they have closed the rest of the stores here. Before gas spikes to $7 a gallon, I'd like to try and find some touch up paint for my precious QB2. If anyone has found a good match besides ACE, please PM me. Thanks in advance.
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Jun 11, 2008 12:25am)
Hi Candin,

I just PMed you a link for touch-up paint. :)
Message: Posted by: algebraic (Jun 11, 2008 10:36am)
JTSmagic,

May I also have the link? Thank you.
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Jun 12, 2008 4:00am)
Thanks John.......
Message: Posted by: eric6 (Jun 21, 2008 5:29am)
John,

May I also have the link ? Thank you.
Message: Posted by: DougNicols (Jun 21, 2008 9:50am)
You might want to include the link on the upcoming DVD as well. :)
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Jun 22, 2008 1:50am)
I ended up buying my can directly from the one and only ACE in town. When I first called, they said they didn't have it. I called the next day and asked if they could order it (more work). Then they went and really, really looked for it.

The one I purchased matched exactly and it was under the ACE name and not the Krylon name. I brought what I needed to match it up.

I have used QB2 a zillion times in performance now. My only dilemma is these days they want another quarter after I finish. Pennies will solve this problem of course but the QB2 is made for quarters and I feel they have a better impact. I will continue to be the good guy and exchange it out for them. Point out there are NO TOOL marks which I feel stresses the impossible nature of this incredible affect.
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Jun 22, 2008 2:13am)
You must be getting some stinjy customers who want another quarter. I would try to sell them that it really is a "one of a kind" souvenier, well, in fact it is!!
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Jun 22, 2008 2:22am)
LOL, I did a ritzy gig Thurs night at a high end hotel. I could not believe it when the woman asked if I could bend it back. Bling bling all over, implants you name it. She was a good spectator before that. I told her it was a collectors item but I could give her another quarter for it. She said okay give me a quarter. Her friends told her to keep it. I tried to keep from questioning.

I would use my own quarters but I think they will think trick. Guess it doesn't matter as long as I make the offer.
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Jun 22, 2008 4:01am)
Next time if someone asks you if you can bend it back, say "Sorry, I'm feeling kind of light headed after melting that quarter, please keep it as a souvenier."

I would never offer to replace their quarter. Only if they make a big stink about it I would. But before I would give it to them, I would make it a point to give the bent quarter to someone else who was watching and mention "You know a miracle when you see one, please keep this as a souvenier!" If you try this, let me know how it goes :)
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Jun 22, 2008 7:10am)
LOL, that's great you Lunatik. that's a good one, I will let you know:) May use that first one.....the other one I would reserve for the drunk ones.
Message: Posted by: Steve Suss (Jun 23, 2008 1:14pm)
With all the competition among coin benders someone ought to come up with a real coin straightener. It would pay for itself right away.

Steve
Message: Posted by: Steven Conner (Jun 23, 2008 3:25pm)
Quote:

On 2008-06-23 13:14, Steve Suss wrote:
With all the competition among coin benders someone ought to come up with a real coin straightener. It would pay for itself right away.

Steve



It's called a hammer!
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Jun 24, 2008 3:49am)
Yeah it would be very nice since that is being asked regularly even more so then flatware bends.
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Oct 14, 2008 1:41am)
Hi guys,

The information for the touch up paint has been included in the QB2 DVD. The DVD's have been shipped. Thanks.

Posted: Oct 15, 2008 12:36am
Hi Guys,

There is a TON of stuff on the new QB2 DVD. More than one might even imagine. I hope you can all get something from it, as I know there is more than enough material for just one person to use.
Yes, I know it was slow at coming to fruition. Again, I apologize about the slow process, and the delay. I hope it was worth the wait. However, I did hold up to my promise and produce, cover the cost of, and ship world wide this DVD for FREE to all those who have purchased and returned their registration cards. I have received tons of email of support. I'd like to say thanks to all of you who have written to me, and also thanks for all of your comments about seeing it on the David Blaine TV special. It was a great experience.
Happy bending.

Magically,
John

PS -The QB2 DVDs are now included with any new purchases of the QB2.
Message: Posted by: Nat (Oct 15, 2008 7:26am)
John,

Thank you for keeping your promise about sending the DVD and, particularly, the fine ideas, comments and routines on the tape. First-Rate!!

nate


Quote:

On 2008-10-15 00:36, JTSmagic wrote:
Hi Guys,

There is a TON of stuff on the new QB2 DVD. More than one might even imagine. I hope you can all get something from it, as I know there is more than enough material for just one person to use.
Yes, I know it was slow at coming to fruition. Again, I apologize about the slow process, and the delay. I hope it was worth the wait. However, I did hold up to my promise and produce, cover the cost of, and ship world wide this DVD for FREE to all those who have purchased and returned thier registration cards. I have received tons of email of support. I'd like to say thanks to all of you who have written to me, and also thanks for all of your comments about seeing it on the David Blaine TV special. It was a great experience.
Happy bending.

Magically,
John

PS -The QB2 DVDs are now included with any new purchases of the QB2.

Message: Posted by: giobbi1 (Oct 15, 2008 9:20am)
John, since I was one of the harshest critics, I too want to say thanks for following through with the DVD. I got mine yesterday, but haven't had a chance to watch it yet, but am very excited about finally getting the use and reactions that I have anticipated getting. Thanks again.
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Oct 15, 2008 10:08pm)
Watching the debate tonight like lots of Americans.

Is it just me but was McCain bending coins the entire time?????


I may be delirious but it surely looked like he was marking them before he bent them. I wanted to jump through the TV and tell him that he was suppose to let Obaman mark the coins and not do it himself.

Everyone jumping on the bandwagon John. Please send McCain a DVD.
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Oct 16, 2008 11:19pm)
Did anyone see David Blaine perform the Quantum Bender 2.0 on his last special? He did a great job imo!!
Message: Posted by: Sammy J. (Oct 17, 2008 12:02am)
Quote:

On 2008-10-16 23:19, lunatik wrote:
Did anyone see David Blaine perform the Quantum Bender 2.0 on his last special? He did a great job imo!!



I agree. His routine and bend was nice. Watching John do it is like watching Superman bend steel in his bare hands!
Message: Posted by: Dan McLean (Oct 17, 2008 1:52am)
Perhaps a little more detail on The QB2 DVD is needed.

John says there's tons of material on it. I disagree. I think there's a butt load. I'm pretty sure a butt load is more than a ton.

Some of these sections are self explanatory. You get Testimonials, Live in Las Vegas (John does QB2 for real people), Introduction, Breaking in The QB. 2.0, Mechanics (Quite a bit there), Revelations (How to reveal the bend. A lot of them!), J.T.S Explanation (John walks you through his personal routine.)

Contributions is worth a separate paragraph. This part is 20 minutes of gold. Something for everyone. Contributors include Roderick Russell, Marty McDowell, Scott Bays, Jerome Finley, Nathan Kranzo, Gabe Abelson, Tim Andrews, Dr. Spektor, Robert D. LaRue Jr and Alain Nu. Not too shabby a lineup. What jumped out for me during my first viewing was Jerome Finley's inexhaustable imagination, Gabe Abelson's misdirection for the bend - possibly the cleverest I've see so far - and Dr Spektor's presentation for platform. All of them are worth serious attention.

And there's also Care & Maintenance (Everything you need to know in detail on how touch up your QB2), Final Thoughts, Trailer and Credits.

Like I said, a butt load of material. When I bought QB2 I was unaware that a DVD was in the works. So for me, this was a quite a bonus. Thanks John. I'm sure all will feel it was worth the wait.
Message: Posted by: Exitmat (Oct 19, 2008 3:44pm)
After debating for years on whether I should lay down the money for the QB2 I finally gave in. I got my QB2 three days ago (got here in just two days!) and I absolutely adore the thing. I'm still working on my handling, but I can tell already this thing is a real worker. Very well made gimmick that should last a very, very long time. Excellent craftsmanship.

The DVD is also an excellent teaching tool. John goes over everything you'd want to know about the QB2 and more. He gives real world performances as well as several handlings and revelation ideas. There's even a section on care and maintenance.

I also just want to say that John Sheets has excellent customer service. I exchanged several emails with him concerning my QB2 and he always responded quickly, and was as helpful as possible.

So after a year+ of considering the QB2, my only regret now is that I took so long to get it. I absolutely adore this thing and will never go to a performance without it.
Message: Posted by: bond19 (Oct 22, 2008 1:34pm)
Just finished watching the Quantum Bender DVD and all I can say is WOW.. it was worth the wait.

John has crammed the DVD with lots of useful information on how to use the QB from breaking the devise in, care & maintenance, ideas & routines for presenting the coin bend, various ways to reveal the bent coin, different ways to bend the coin (and this really goes into great detail, including John's preferred method).

Basically John has provided a great wealth of information regarding all aspects of the Quantum Bender. Once you have watched the DVD you will have no problems on how to use BEST COIN BENDER currently on the market

Well done John for a fantastic product in the Quantum Bender and for a valuable in depth support DVD
Message: Posted by: pwolverine (Oct 23, 2008 6:44pm)
Can anyone tell me if they have used the QB2 with Australian Coins? Which ones work etc? I have a Superman gimmick, however I found that because the coins are stronger the mouth of the gimmick has bent slowly and now the coins slip out and don't bend that well. Will this sort of problem happen with the QB2? Its not hte sort of thing Iw ant to shell out money for only to find it deteriorates in some way. :)
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Nov 13, 2008 11:18pm)
Hi Guys,

I just wanted to say thanks for all of the positive feedback on the QB2 and the QB2 DVD. I appreciate it. :)
Message: Posted by: Branden Darcel (Nov 16, 2008 2:41pm)
I should have done a search before posting my own review. Oops!

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=284628&forum=3

Posted: Nov 18, 2008 1:40am
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=284628&forum=109
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Nov 30, 2008 4:02pm)
Also:

http://www.QB2isfantastic!.com
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Dec 17, 2008 8:02pm)
Had the Q.B.2 for about a week now.
Great device to say the least.
Has anyone else noticed that there can be a bit of a problem when using an old worn down quarter? It happened to me several times. When I made the bend I heard a snap! The first time it happened I thought I had broke the freaking thing!

I then realized that after this happened several times that it was always when an older coin was used. It seems as though they are smoother and somehow do not properly grab, as it were, on the Q.B.2. Has anyone else noticed this?

~gaffed~
Message: Posted by: eSamuels (Dec 17, 2008 8:33pm)
Definitely! Scared the living **** out of me the first time the 'snap!' happened. Also alerted the spec, who looked directly at my hand; It's happened twice, but I'm not sure it was because of the age of the quarter, rather the position of the coin.
Message: Posted by: Steve Suss (Dec 18, 2008 10:37am)
I've only had it happen during practice when I first bought it over a year ago. I believe Eric is right and it is the position of the coin. PM me and I'll tell you how I position it.

Steve
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Dec 18, 2008 11:27am)
Thanks....
Someone else PM'ed me on this and said it was the position of the coin.
I never really paid much attention to that factor and more than likely that is the cause.

I've done it four or five times now and it does indeed get one hell of a reaction!
I had to routine it for myself and an idea I got from Gabe Abelson's handling. I have a wee bit of arthritis in my hand and I can't quite make the bend that easily. I find the need to use a different hand position to do it easily which is a bit harder to hide. So, I have a routine where I actually do the bend right in front of their faces and quite close up! I then keep the Q.B.2 out and use it as a demonstration as it being a fork or a spoon in relation to Uri Geller. It's so blatant that it takes all the heat off of it! I then casually place it back in my pocket as the bend has been made and then fry their brains! It still amazes me what you can get away with at times if you have the nerve to do it! Believe me, it's not that I have a lot of nerve but this was simply done out of necessity and when I do it I still can't believe that I'm getting away with it!

~gaffed~
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Dec 18, 2008 4:17pm)
Quote:

On 2008-12-18 11:27, gaffed wrote:
Thanks....
Someone else PM'ed me on this and said it was the position of the coin.
I never really paid much attention to that factor and more than likely that is the cause.

I've done it four or five times now and it does indeed get one hell of a reaction!
I had to routine it for myself and an idea I got from Gabe Abelson's handling. I have a wee bit of arthritis in my hand and I can't quite make the bend that easily. I find the need to use a different hand position to do it easily which is a bit harder to hide. So, I have a routine where I actually do the bend right in front of their faces and quite close up! I then keep the Q.B.2 out and use it as a demonstration as it being a fork or a spoon in relation to Uri Geller. It's so blatant that it takes all the heat off of it! I then casually place it back in my pocket as the bend has been made and then fry their brains! It still amazes me what you can get away with at times if you have the nerve to do it! Believe me, it's not that I have a lot of nerve but this was simply done out of necessity and when I do it I still can't believe that I'm getting away with it!

~gaffed~



Are you saying you grip the t** p**ces to make the Sharpie appear to be "melting?"

LOL, steel marbles eh?
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Dec 18, 2008 6:24pm)
Quote:


Are you saying you grip the t** p**ces to make the Sharpie appear to be "melting?"

LOL, steel marbles eh?



No, sorry but I can see the misunderstanding!
I simply have a few quarters on the table when I do this. I then ask the spec. if they think they could possibly bend a quarter and I demonstrate this action by holding up both of my hands and make a bending gesture. They never realize or perhaps I should say, pay attention to the fact that I have the QB in my hands as its covered by them and I'm actually bending the quarter when I do the gesture! So, I'm actually bending the quarter right in their faces!

But, seeing that I have the QB still out I then use it by holding it with my fingertips (hiding the working part of course) and ask if they have ever heard of or seen Uri Geller. I then again openly (or, so it seems) hold the OB right in their faces and tell them about how well known he was for being able to bend spoons and forks by just rubbing his fingers on it but I don't do anything at all with the QB. I then get a bit of a laugh when I say: "Well, I don't do that". I then simply place it back in my pocket and then say; "However, I can at times do this". I then do the slow bend at my fingertips of the quarter into their hand. So, in essence I'm blatantly holding the QB quite openly very close to their faces and actually doing the dirty work as they watch me do it! It simply passes right by them!

The reason I keep the QB out for the Uri Geller question is that they can in no way backtrack any dirty work as to the pen as I'm so open with it and doing everything right in front of there very eyes that any suspicion is eliminated from the pen. Its almost akin to palming a card while the person holds the deck of cards. Its so blatant that it simply flies right over their heads!
As the old saying goes; "Necessity is the mother of all inventions"! I'm simply doing this out of necessity and not steel marbles! :lol:

~gaffed~ ;)
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Jan 2, 2009 2:32am)
Still contemplating on getting this. Can any of the owners give me some encouragement? I'd have to give up a lot of beer to buy this. lol.
Message: Posted by: Neznarf (Jan 2, 2009 12:35pm)
Just do a search on the Café and you'll read tons of positive feedback.
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Jan 2, 2009 4:19pm)
Thanks for the tip. I have already read all the threads on Quantum Bender. Just not convinced it's worth that much YET. I don't buy into the pricing of an item high to keep it exclusive.

Take care,

Doug L.
Message: Posted by: Eddie Garland (Jan 2, 2009 4:37pm)
Take the leap Doug,
To so easily bend a spectators signed coin...it is worth much more. It is a well made gimmick you will rarely not carry with you.
Message: Posted by: kissdadookie (Jan 2, 2009 7:59pm)
I thought it wasn't all that good when Nathan Kranzo showed it at one of his lectures but then again, he didn't actually perform it. Seeing the demo video that is available for the QB 2.0 however made me realize how powerful this method for the coin bend is. Absolutely no heat and you can't get any clearer with your audience that it is indeed THEIR coin. There's other devices that cost about the same as the QB 2.0 (Porper's version and R. Paul Wilson's) but the gaffs that they use is not as invisible as the QB 2.0. This one is definitely a worker and priced at what it's priced at because of it being a true workhorse. Casual performers/hobbyists shouldn't really pick it up because it makes no financial sense but for the workers, QB 2.0 is more or less the Holy Grail thus for as it pertains to the coin bend.
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Jan 2, 2009 11:51pm)
[quote]
On 2009-01-02 19:59, kissdadookie wrote:
Absolutely no heat and you can't get any clearer with your audience that it is indeed THEIR coin.
[/quote]

All the commercial methods out there have a degree of heat because there is no such thing as a signed, no gimmick coin bend. Therefore at some point you have to put both hands together to put a bend in the coin and that is where the heat is.

I usually don't quibble over prices but $200 would of been more than reasonable for the gimmicked Sharpie and a dvd. $500+ is outrageous.
Message: Posted by: kissdadookie (Jan 3, 2009 12:08am)
See Doug, this is where you don't understand the beauty of the QB 2.0, yes you are blatantly and openly bending the coin but guess what, even though it's right there in the open, in the context of what you are doing without introducing anything else into the equation (you started with a Sharpie and THEIR coin, they took your Sharpie and signed their coin, you take Sharpie back, then coin, then you bend the coin, and in your hands is still just the coin and the Sharpie, NO HEAT. There's not a single moment where there's heat on ANYTHING. By the time there is heat it's because the coin is already bent, hope that makes sense). I can understand how one will see the move done in the demo video but you have to watch the demo and understand it from the context of at that moment, with the spectators, and in the context of the effect then and there.

You really have no idea why it's priced at $500 and why even at $500 it's not outrageous. This is a good thing because honestly, it's a crazy price but it's crazy pretty much for people who are not rich and for which magic is not 24/7 for them (basically being both their hobby as well as most probably part or all of their livelihood). It's really not meant for those folks because this is really something you can make your money back with very quickly (even though "reputation maker" sounds like a tagline, as it applies to QB 2.0 it's actually true because the nature of having a coin bend, it is extremely strong and this is the best method on the market for bending the coin). It's truly an investment for workers and/or a very very very special treat for those who wants the absolute cleanest coin bend. Let me say this again, THERE'S NO HEAT.

Anyways, long story short, if you don't find value in it, don't buy it (kind of common sense but we all know that it's not too common).
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Jan 3, 2009 12:18am)
Do you own one?
Message: Posted by: kissdadookie (Jan 3, 2009 12:26am)
Two of my friends own it for a few months already, one is a worker and the other one is a really good magician. The worker does it I believe every night at his table-hopping gig and my other friend performs it whenever he goes out, so let's just say that this is truly an item that gets used ALL THE TIME. Only people who ever notice the move are other magicians and the reason is that they are in the know, so if you want to use the QB to fool fellow magicians, you should find something else to do. I'm trying to figure out if I want to pick that up first or the PH DVD set first. :)
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Jan 3, 2009 12:31am)
Quote:

On 2009-01-03 00:08, kissdadookie wrote:

You really have no idea why it's priced at $500 and why even at $500 it's not outrageous.



You have just as much of an idea as I do. Neither of us actually own it.

I pre-ordered True Astonishments from Jason Messina. $300 for 9 dvds is a lot of value for my money. Also bought Triple Threat from Todd Lassen.
Message: Posted by: Max Krause (Jan 3, 2009 12:34am)
Quote:

On 2009-01-02 02:32, DVLKCC wrote:
Still contemplating on getting this. Can any of the owners give me some encouragement? I'd have to give up a lot of beer to buy this. lol.



Then again....

You might drink free from here on out when you perform this:)
Message: Posted by: kissdadookie (Jan 3, 2009 12:37am)
Buddy, I've played with it, I've seen it in use, I realize why it was so strong from watching the demo. I'm saving up for this thing actually, I've been saving up for it. I'm on a whole different page than you are because you still have no idea WHY this is so good. If you didn't read carefully enough in the beginning, I mentioned seeing this first from Nathan Kranzo, it wasn't until seeing the demo video that I realized why it is so strong. The same demo video that had a lot of people going "Hey, I saw that move!" They just don't get it. The demo video probably lost more people's interest than before the demo came out, which is great because those folks shouldn't have wanted to buy it in the first place.

I can GUARANTEE you that the QB 2 will get a HECK OF A LOT more use than the Triple Threat (I had a 3CM when Jamie still made them well, sold them because they are fun to play with but it's not something one really needs, now it's kind of hit or miss with Schoolcraft as I've played with a few of the more recent sets that just aren't made all that well).
Message: Posted by: Eddie Garland (Jan 3, 2009 1:05am)
I own it. I've used it for all ages....plays always the same...amazing. If I lost it I would immediately purchase another.

I believe strongly that the device is potentially a great learning tool in blatant "in your face" misdirection. It is high end equipment no doubt...the design and quality is remarkable. I should have worn it out by now...but nope. It is still perfect.

I use it always seemingly impromptu...it kills.
Message: Posted by: kissdadookie (Jan 3, 2009 1:10am)
You forgot that there really is no misdirection with the QB 2 Eddie ;) You are just soooooooooooooo far ahead of them that it is absolutely unfair for their feeble minds in the end.
Message: Posted by: CharlieC (Jan 3, 2009 3:07am)
I've been playing around with the QB2 for about 7 months now. It took me a long time to find a solid presentation, but I'm really happy with it now. It's been a real reputation maker for me. I didn't even realize Jon finally put the DVD out!

Tonight, this lady swore she saw the quarter bend/melt in my fingers. I can't wait to see what is on the DVD.
Message: Posted by: jamesmagic (Jan 3, 2009 7:21am)
Would we all agree this effect is stronger with a borrowed coin? If so, how do you deal with the fact that you're ruining a stranger's hard earned change? In this economy I could see this actually being an issue. Obviously you could tell them up front that they won't be getting their coin back or you'll be ruining it. But that seems to take away from the surprise. You could also reimburse each person with a coin. But aside from pennies (seems from the demo, quarters are ideal) that would get expensive, Particularly after parting ways with $500 to get this in the first place.
Message: Posted by: kissdadookie (Jan 3, 2009 8:06am)
I've done coin bends for a awhile now (using the prebend method of course) and I always borrow the coin. Even though you've bent their coin they are not offended nor upset with that fact. Not once has a spectator asked for the coin to be bent back for use, when they ask if you can bend the coin back, they literally just want to see if you're able to do that with the coin (basically they want to see the effect again). So you really have no worries there James. Here's a suggestion for those that are interested in the QB 2, go out, learn a coin bend using another method of your choice, perform that for awhile so that you get use to coin bending. If after that you still don't find real value with the QB 2, then it's simply just not for you and you should just move on with your life to bigger and better things.
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Jan 3, 2009 1:27pm)
[quote]
On 2009-01-03 00:37, kissdadookie wrote:
I can GUARANTEE you that the QB 2 will get a HECK OF A LOT more use than the Triple Threat
[/quote]

Wow, okay. Whatever you say. Just because Quantum Bender 2.0 is more 'impromptu' looking doesn't mean I won't be getting a lot of use out of Triple Threat. On 3CM, you bought a knock off and sold a knock off.

[quote]
On 2009-01-03 00:34, sleightofhand1971 wrote:
Then again....

You might drink free from here on out when you perform this:)
[/quote]

There's something to think about! I also picked up Diamond Jim Tyler's Bamboozlers so I am well on my way! haha.
Message: Posted by: itsmagic (Jan 3, 2009 2:50pm)
Quote:

On 2009-01-03 07:21, jamesmagic wrote:
You could also reimburse each person with a coin. But aside from pennies (seems from the demo, quarters are ideal) that would get expensive, Particularly after parting ways with $500 to get this in the first place.



You can take the bent quarters home and hammer them back to normal, so you'll be out nothing but instead have done some astonishing magic!
Message: Posted by: edh (Jan 3, 2009 8:59pm)
Curious as to what you respond to "O.K. wiseguy, now bend it back!"
Message: Posted by: A.G. (Jan 3, 2009 9:35pm)
"If I bent it back, you wouldn't have a story to tell....at least now you will some proof that this really happened, to you."

Although I have only been asked this a couple of times, it seems to be the perfect answer.. In both cases, they were not challenging me, they just wanted to see what I was going to say. It becomes their story and experience, not yours.



I think QB is a fantastic tool, and If you want to do a real time bend, this is the best there is.

Of course if you are not comfortable using a real time bend, "Psyche" is very strong, and so easy to do.

I have been told that many people that have QB2 still in fact use some of the routine and ideas that "Psyche" offers.


The more tools you have all the better.

all the Best,
Andrew Gerard
Message: Posted by: kissdadookie (Jan 4, 2009 12:33am)
As to edh's comment about "Hey wiseguy, bend it back," firstly I have yet encountered anybody with such a smart alec tone asking for the coin to be bent back, so thank goodness for that. Secondly, I will be honest and tell you that I don't have a solution for that, I would just move on to the next effect. Luckily the effect is so strong that it doesn't really matter because they still want to keep that coin in the end, they will show it off to others, and if you meet that person again days, weeks, months, or years later, they will remember you as the person who had mentally bent their coin. This is how strong the coin bend plot is.
Message: Posted by: Steve Suss (Jan 4, 2009 10:46am)
I've been doing magic/mentalism for over 40 years and have thousands of dollars worth of items I do not use. It is rear to purchase something that instantly becomes part of my repetoir. The QB2 is now the item I usually use to close my seemingly impromptu performances and it is one of my most talked about items. I also use it as a prelude to my parlor metal bending routine.

I value an effect by how strong and entertaining it is and how often I will use it. Here is an extremely powerfull effect that can be performed stand up, surrounded and under virtually all conditions. It is done with a borrowed object without preparation and leaves the spectator with a memory of the moment. What more could you ask? If I figure the cost per performance this item is actually very inexpensive. I use it all the time.

My only caveat is that this is not for everyone and should be used by experienced performers. In the wrong hands this effect becomes a "trick" rather than a truly incredible experience.

Steve
Message: Posted by: kissdadookie (Jan 4, 2009 11:35am)
I absolutely agree with Steve Suss. The QB 2 is one of those rare magical items which is as close to perfection for its intended use and effect. The brilliance of it is lost when used by the less experienced performers out there because after all, this is a means to an end for the coin bend but if you do not perform the coin bend already (and regularly) then its nuance and value is lost. A easy example would be if one was to give another a set of the best coin gaffs available but the person receiving the gaffs has very little to no experience with coin magic, all those gaffs are basically wasted.
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Jan 4, 2009 2:21pm)
In all of the times I've used Q.B.2 I've always received the good 'ol "WTF" reaction!
Its in my jacket pocket all the time ready to go. The only thing that scares the living hell out of me is the fear of losing it! I'm constantly checking my pocket to make sure it's still there! I feels as though I'm casually walking around with a 10 karat diamond loosely in my pocket! lol
Yes, it's expensive but the reactions are well worth it and it looks as though it will last a lifetime. If you don't lose it that is! ;)

~gaffed~
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Jan 13, 2009 2:07pm)
Quote:

On 2009-01-03 14:50, itsmagic wrote:
Quote:

On 2009-01-03 07:21, jamesmagic wrote:
You could also reimburse each person with a coin. But aside from pennies (seems from the demo, quarters are ideal) that would get expensive, Particularly after parting ways with $500 to get this in the first place.



You can take the bent quarters home and hammer them back to normal, so you'll be out nothing but instead have done some astonishing magic!



Yuppers, you certainly can. They work fine in vending machine afterwards.

QB2 rules the day.

Candin
www.MagicSA.com
Message: Posted by: itsmagic (Jan 13, 2009 10:22pm)
This effect is so much fun to perform. It truly is a nice piece of impromptu magic with someone's borrowed coin. They are left with a remarkable magical souvenir.
Message: Posted by: targetintellect (Jan 18, 2009 7:12pm)
Quote:

On 2009-01-03 20:59, edh wrote:
Curious as to what you respond to "O.K. wiseguy, now bend it back!"



I use QB2 on a regular basis tablehopping at my restaurant gig. Yes, you do get asked "can you bend it back?" More often you hear "boy, I can't use this in a vending (or slot) machine". I think both these comments, blurted out too early can diminish that moment of awe by placing all the attention on the "clever" person saying it.

In my patter I beat them to the punch: "You bent the coin. I used to bend it back, but then nobody would believe the person that it happened; so don't use it in a vending machine, but do keep it always as your lucky coin and proof that YOU did something amazing."

For those of you who do fraud, this line, with a bit of modification, works well to keep the focus on the amazing effect that just happened.

I hope this helps.

- Frank
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Jan 21, 2009 11:37pm)
Quote:
On 2009-01-03 20:59, edh wrote:
Curious as to what you respond to "O.K. wiseguy, now bend it back!"



I also get that quite a bit along with "Fraud".
Depending upon the crowd I simply wink and say; "I only go one way!" It usually gets a laugh and then I simply move on. There are some tricks where something is done that one would then think it can be reversed and they state so. Just think ahead and think of some clever response for those situations. Sometimes just a simple response as; "I'm surprised I even was able to do that so I'm not going to push it!" will suffice or something on that order will do fine. Be creative and anticipate those situations. I always offer another quarter or dollar (Fraud) but most refuse and simply keep it to show others.

~gaffed~
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Jan 22, 2009 8:39pm)
[quote]
On 2009-01-18 19:12, targetintellect wrote:
Quote:

On 2009-01-03 20:59, edh wrote:
Curious as to what you respond to "O.K. wiseguy, now bend it back!"



Perhaps we should work on a method to bend it back...instead of copping out?
Message: Posted by: kissdadookie (Jan 22, 2009 10:58pm)
It's not copping out. If you do coin bends regularly you would understand that people who ask you to bend it back usually just wants to catch you doing something sneaky. Go and learn a coin bend that you are comfortable with and perform it regularly Doug, or else you won't understand what the strength and weaknesses of coin bend routines are (unless you're doing a really bad or a really mediocre coin bend routine, obviously those are not all that great). Learn one, perform it regularly for awhile, then come back and give you opinion on the coin bend plot.

Another thing to keep in mind, it's better to learn one that you will be comfortable with and try different presentations for it, try it as if you were performing a magic trick, note the reactions, then try it with a more esoteric/mentalism approach and not the reactions with that approach. Also keep in mind when you try the esoteric/mentalism approach, don't undermine it by doing your standard magic tricks before it, it absolutely destroys the flow and will negatively impact the coin bend. Also don't perform it for friends, perform for people who you don't really know that well (this applies pretty much for the esoteric/mentalism approach).

You'll also notice that the esoteric/mentalism approach will be the path of least resistance for your audience (when performed and framed properly before you even go into it), in other words, they will more or less NOT ask to see you bend it back. When folks ask to bend it back, it happens almost always when the coin bend is presented as a magic trick.

Go check out some mentalist shows, unless the show is REALLY bad, you'll see that the audience pretty much believes what's going on is real and will usually not give the performer a hard time.

Again, this is all knowledge that one would acquire by performing regularly and not just for friends and family. It's called experience and it can be gained regardless if you're a worker or have a non-magic day job. I'm just hanging on the edge of my seat before Mr. ?????? gets this QB 2.0 thread removed as well ;) Ha ha ha. J/k.
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Jan 23, 2009 12:22am)
There is a saying from the bible, if I'm not mistaken, that a prophet is never accepted by his own people. This also holds true when performing magic for friends.
They of course feel more familiar with you and feel free to push the envelope as it were and 'question' what you just did which normally does not occur when performing for strangers.

I always perform for my friends as I'm always asked to do so but it does indeed at times have some draw backs. Most just love to sit back and enjoy but there are the occasional ones who question, push, etc. simply because of their familiarity with you and in some ways feel they have the right to do so. They at times can be your hardest audience and in some ways this is good practice.

Quote:
DVLKCC wrote: Perhaps we should work on a method to bend it back...instead of copping out?



Copping out! Wow....ya really lost me there on that one! Where is the cop out? You just did something that for all practical reasons is impossible! Then again, that is what all magic entails. Does that mean that if a spectator's chosen and signed card is found to be folded up in your shoe that you should then be able to "unfold" it and make it reappear back in the deck with no creases in it? Does that mean that a magician should be able to reverse every trick he or she performs and is not able to do so that it is simply a cop out?! If that were the case I think we would all have to pack up our bag of collective goodies and not bother with magic anymore! Copping out??!!!

~gaffed~
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Jan 23, 2009 2:22am)
The comment was more of a joke really. It would be cool to 'melt' a quarter back into its original shape though.
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Jan 23, 2009 9:58am)
Quote:

On 2009-01-23 02:22, DVLKCC wrote:
The comment was more of a joke really. It would be cool to 'melt' a quarter back into its original shape though.



Certainly can't deny that but I seriously doubt that will ever come about. Then again, when it comes to magic never say never!

~gaffed~ ;)
Message: Posted by: Mr. Mystoffelees (Jan 23, 2009 10:48am)
I use Coinvexed (saving up for QB2) and like to mix it up with a few pre-worked coins and a B*b* Sw****, just so I can occasionally "unbend" the coin...
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Jan 23, 2009 11:12pm)
Quote:

On 2009-01-23 10:48, mandarin wrote:
I use Coinvexed (saving up for QB2) and like to mix it up with a few pre-worked coins and a B*b* Sw****, just so I can occasionally "unbend" the coin...



Sounds good but once you can bend a signed quarter you'll never be satisfied with anything less. Admittedly the Q.B.2 is insanely expensive but I now never leave home without it. It's always nice to have on hand for some impromptu magic!

~gaffed~
Message: Posted by: Derek Dean (Jan 24, 2009 1:21am)
Wow, I haven't visited this thread in a while. There are some very powerful ideas being discussed here. Thanks to all of you for sharing your valuable insights into the mechanics of your performance as well as your thinking behind the presentation.

I've learned a LOT!
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Jan 24, 2009 11:14pm)
Quote:

On 2009-01-18 19:12, targetintellect wrote:

I use QB2 on a regular basis tablehopping at my restaurant gig. Yes, you do get asked "can you bend it back?" More often you hear "boy, I can't use this in a vending (or slot) machine". I think both these comments, blurted out too early can diminish that moment of awe by placing all the attention on the "clever" person saying it.

In my patter I beat them to the punch: "You bent the coin. I used to bend it back, but then nobody would believe the person that it happened; so don't use it in a vending machine, but do keep it always as your lucky coin and proof that YOU did something amazing."




I would assume then that you are “supposedly” having the coin bend in the spectator’s hand. I personally don’t care for that handling. The simple is reason is this. The spectator knows that they cannot bend a coin or, have the “powers” to do so but they might (hopefully) have the thought that you can. After all, you’re the magician and not them!

I use the Uri Geller idea suggested by Gabe albeit I handle it a bit differently. I bend the coin while they are actually watching me do it but they never notice it! To me, having the (already bent coin) in your thumb and fingertip held tightly and then slowly start wiggling it the coin does indeed look like it’s becoming very pliable and bending before its dropped in the spectators hand. Not only are you (the magician) bending the coin but its very visual.

Then again it’s all a matter of personal choice or preference as to how you wish to handle this little miracle.

~gaffed~
Message: Posted by: kissdadookie (Jan 25, 2009 3:20am)
Gaffed, if performed correctly you can very much so make the spectator believe that they bent the coin in their hand. I've been using suggestion work for in the spectator hands coin bends starting at least 3 years ago. The reason I started using suggestion was to make them psychologically believe what's happening thus they will no long focus on the technical aspects of a bent coin. Ben Earl's new DVD, Skin, covers this type of bend (good video but he glosses over two important parts of making this kind of coin bend/suggestion routine work 100%, in other words, there are simple techniques on how to prep your spectators then select the best of the crop for this to have maximum impact, Ben doesn't cover this aspect at all which was disappointing because I've learned from my few months of constant tweaking of my handling to gain that knowledge, I assure you a person new to this kind of suggestion work will have more or less a hard time getting it to work as often and as strongly as he/she would hope in the beginning).

Now, with QB2, I would have to say it is preferable to bend the coin visually at my fingertips because having the signature and the spec handling everything so freely, cements the idea in their mind that you did not do anything funny with the coin. However, for maximum impact and memorable experience, coin bends in the spectator's hand aided by suggestion work is hands down the best way to go.
Message: Posted by: Amazing Magic Co (Feb 6, 2009 12:56pm)
Has anyone had experience traveling with QB 2.0 by air? Any problems with TSA as a carry on?

Thanks,
Dan.
Message: Posted by: Joemv (Feb 6, 2009 1:38pm)
Yes expensive, but the "Cadillac" of coin benders, in my humble opinion. I don't leave home with out it.


Joe
Message: Posted by: Jerome Finley (Feb 6, 2009 2:12pm)
Quote:

On 2009-02-06 12:56, Amazing Magic Co wrote:
Has anyone had experience traveling with QB 2.0 by air? Any problems with TSA as a carry on?

Thanks,
Dan.



Yes, I would put it in your checked luggage!

I've carried my QB2 in my carry-on bag quite a few times, but it was always sketchy and it was almost confiscated a few times. It always draws suspicion, it will always get your bag pulled, etc. The airport security will say it's a 'kubotan.'

I got very tired of having to explain what it was, show the security guys how it worked, explaining that I was a performer, yada, yada, yada. It's much easier to check the item.

-JF
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Feb 7, 2009 12:18am)
What on earth is a "kubotan"?

~gaffed~
Message: Posted by: Brett Sirrell Magician (Feb 27, 2009 4:34pm)
David Penn has now just released the Coinvexed 2, also a sharpie gimmick but I believe its not as clean as the QB2 as you need to pull out a stack of coins as well. Anyone able to directly compare the CV2 with the QB2?

Also someone said that the QB2 was metal and its finish wore off - is this true. (it was a dealer telling me this, with an interest in selling the CV2!!)
Message: Posted by: kissdadookie (Feb 27, 2009 4:41pm)
The paint wears off but it wears off in a area that is FULLY covered (it's where the dirty work happens) so this is a NON-issue. Apparently Coinvexed 2 works mechanically the same as the original Coinvexed so in other words, it's still a two piece system. The routine in the original Coinvexed justifies the reasoning for pulling out a pocket full of change (which is needed). CV2 apparently is LESS pocket change out in the open as the other half of the gimmick is not fitted into the Sharpie. Not as direct as a QB2. With a QB2 it's literally as follows: spectator takes out his/her own coin, signs both front, back, and wherever else they wish on their coin, coin is BRIEFLY handled by you and you put the work in (absolutely invisible from a spectator's point of view), and then you present the bend however you wish. The routine with the original CV was a bit more elaborate but mainly it was elaborate due to the need to make the moment of the bend and using the gimmick invisible. For directness, QB2 is still better.
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Mar 1, 2009 7:48pm)
I was talking to a magician acquaintance of mine that performs occasionally at the local bar/restaurant that I frequent. A few weeks ago I performed QB2 for him and he was quite impressed until I told him the price! I ran into him the other evening and he told me that he had just purchased a quarter bend trick but I was unable to hear what the name of it was as it was getting a tad noisy there. However he did tell me that the quarter could be signed but...after the coin was bent! Sounds a bit quirky to me but would anyone perhaps know what he was referring to?

~gaffed~
Message: Posted by: jprace (Mar 1, 2009 7:49pm)
Maybe the Andrew Gerard bend?
Message: Posted by: tpax (Mar 1, 2009 9:59pm)
Yes, Psyche has a bend, they sign, then another bend. No gimmicks. It would not replace your QB2 but the subtleties shown could enhance your presentation.
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Mar 2, 2009 12:01am)
I'm sure I'll run into him again very soon and I'll have to ask him.
He did mention that after the quarter was bent that he had to hold onto it (hiding the bend) while the spectator signed it as evidently the quarter could not be shown. That all sounds a rather bit ridiculous as to clenching onto a quarter while it is signed and to me a dead giveaway that something is amiss! Thanks but.....no thanks!
The QB2 wins hands down as to its cleanliness. Expensive, yes, but it kicks ass out of any coin bending effect that I know of.

Quote:

On 2009-02-27 16:34, Brett Sirrell Magician wrote:
David Penn has now just released the Coinvexed 2, also a sharpie gimmick but I believe its not as clean as the QB2 as you need to pull out a stack of coins as well. Anyone able to directly compare the CV2 with the QB2?

Also someone said that the QB2 was metal and its finish wore off - is this true. (it was a dealer telling me this, with an interest in selling the CV2!!)



Like kissdadookie said, there is a possibility that some paint may wear off at a certain point but it will never be seen by the spectator. Aside from that, John gives you the correct paint to buy if you wish to do any touch up on the pen. Evidently your dealer did not have it in stock and merely wished to make a sale that is not at all nearly as great as the QB2.

~gaffed!
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Mar 2, 2009 12:50am)
I went ahead and bought a QB 2.0 the other day. :) I want to do the cleanest coin bend possible.

Anyone know if it comes with the new dvd, or will I have to send off the card?

Thanks,

Doug L.
Message: Posted by: Amazing Magic Co (Mar 2, 2009 7:44am)
Doug,

I recently purchased one and it included the DVD. I have been having a blast with this ever since.

Dan.
Message: Posted by: tpax (Mar 2, 2009 9:19am)
Quote:

On 2009-03-02 00:01, gaffed wrote:
I'm sure I'll run into him again very soon and I'll have to ask him.
He did mention that after the quarter was bent that he had to hold onto it (hiding the bend) while the spectator signed it as evidently the quarter could not be shown. That all sounds a rather bit ridiculous as to clenching onto a quarter while it is signed and to me a dead giveaway that something is amiss! Thanks but.....no thanks!
The QB2 wins hands down as to its cleanliness. Expensive, yes, but it kicks ass out of any coin bending effect that I know of.
~gaffed!



I agree the QB2 is a great bender. But it is only a bender, a tool. It is YOU that are doing the bending. So it's up to YOU, not the tool, to convince your audience that what is happening is real. If you are serious about coin bending you should study everything available, see where the strengths and weaknesses for those routines lay. Compare them and see what is similar, and what does/doesn't work for you. Use as much info as you can to come up with your routine. The difference between a OK performance and a great performance is in the subtleties. I would not use the method/tool in Psyche, but I will/do use parts of his reveal. Just because you don't use the method doesn't mean the information isn't good.
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Mar 2, 2009 6:45pm)
Quote:

On 2009-03-02 07:44, Amazing Magic Co wrote:
I have been having a blast with this ever since.




Good to hear Dan. I bought the QB 2.0 because I researched every bender on the market, and QB 2.0 is the cleanest commercially available product. I plan on putting the hard work into developing my presentation and making it my reputation maker.

Thank you John Sheets!

Best,

Doug Lippert
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Mar 2, 2009 7:32pm)
Quote:

On 2009-03-02 00:50, Doug Lippert wrote:
I went ahead and bought a QB 2.0 the other day. :) I want to do the cleanest coin bend possible.

Anyone know if it comes with the new dvd, or will I have to send off the card?

Thanks,

Doug L.



It now comes with the new DVD.

Quote:

On 2009-03-02 09:19, tpax wrote:

I agree the QB2 is a great bender. But it is only a bender, a tool. It is YOU that are doing the bending. So it's up to YOU, not the tool, to convince your audience that what is happening is real. If you are serious about coin bending you should study everything available, see where the strengths and weaknesses for those routines lay. Compare them and see what is similar, and what does/doesn't work for you. Use as much info as you can to come up with your routine. The difference between a OK performance and a great performance is in the subtleties. I would not use the method/tool in Psyche, but I will/do use parts of his reveal. Just because you don't use the method doesn't mean the information isn't good.



Yes, I totally agree that the QB2 is just a tool and nothing more. Simply a means to an end as it where.
However, a tool that has been serving me well and one that I’m more than satisfied with. With that said I personally can’t see any reason to search out a different method unless of course something better comes along. There are some effects where I find it imperative or perhaps I should say a huge plus when a borrowed object, such as a coin, can be cleanly signed. The QB2 fits that bill quite nicely so I really can’t see the need to search out other coin bending effects.

~gaffed~
Message: Posted by: A.G. (Mar 2, 2009 9:15pm)
[quote]
On 2009-03-02 00:01, gaffed wrote:
I'm sure I'll run into him again very soon and I'll have to ask him.
He did mention that after the quarter was bent that he had to hold onto it (hiding the bend) while the spectator signed it as evidently the quarter could not be shown. That all sounds a rather bit ridiculous as to clenching onto a quarter while it is signed and to me a dead giveaway that something is amiss! Thanks but.....no thanks!
The QB2 wins hands down as to its cleanliness. Expensive, yes, but it kicks ass out of [i]any[/i] coin bending effect that I know of.

This sounds like Morgan Streblers effect, " The Closer " I believe....
In "Psyche" you don't have to cover anything..

QB is an amazing tool the provides and effective "Method".

Unfortunately you can't show the audience the method.... although they may be equally impressed !LOL

The presentation, psychology, and audience management is all they SEE and FEEL...

"Psyche" is extremely clean and based almost purely on peoples perceptions of reality.


boys and their toys!

Gerard

PS I own QB and think its an amazing tool... I reccomend checking out what works best for YOU, as everyone is different.


all the best
AG
Message: Posted by: kissdadookie (Mar 2, 2009 9:51pm)
I still on occasions use Strebler's coin bend for a quick visual bend with a little addition added to the end. Andrew, I really trust your products but I have a question, is Psyche going to be similar to Skin? I really did not feel Skin to have added anything to the table that I haven't already applied from what I learned in Jermay's Building Blocks. I am on the fence about getting Psyche (more for it then against it as I am a big fan of your thinking as well as how devoted you are when you teach the material on TA as well as Energy Bill, also love Street Cents, one of the most underrated effects I can think of).
Message: Posted by: A.G. (Mar 3, 2009 5:16pm)
I don't want to detract from the threads topic of QB.

Psyche is something I perform literally every day, along with Energy Bill.
If you like my thinking Psyche will make you smile, big time !

best Andrew Gerard
Message: Posted by: Steven Conner (Mar 4, 2009 5:23pm)
Richard Osterlind still has an incredible coin bend. Would love for him to release.
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Mar 6, 2009 1:49am)
Have any of you ever asked to borrow a quarter from a magician friend and proceed to bend their expanded [ on accident ?

LOL,

Doug L.
Message: Posted by: gdw (Mar 6, 2009 6:24pm)
I can't see how, it would be pretty apparent it was a shell as soon as you got it.

Unless the shell was on a coin, and neither noticed, lol.
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Mar 6, 2009 6:49pm)
Quote:

On 2009-03-06 18:24, gdw wrote:
Unless the shell was on a coin



Sorry I wasn't more clear. It would be quite obvious if you received just the [ so I didn't think to mention it. LOL..

I'm saying if you ask to borrow a quarter and your friend gives you a quarter with their [ nested on it. (he doesn't know what you're going to do with it after all!)

You proceed to bend it, [, quarter, ego, and all. LOL.

Just a funny thought.

Best,

Doug L.
Message: Posted by: richgerb86 (Mar 6, 2009 9:42pm)
I ordered the QB 2.0 about two weeks ago. Anyone know how long the wait time is?
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Mar 6, 2009 11:29pm)
Quote:

On 2009-03-06 21:42, richgerb86 wrote:
I ordered the QB 2.0 about two weeks ago. Anyone know how long the wait time is?



I believe John lives in Canada. I had to wait a long time and ended up sending him an email as it took forever! But, then again, the Canadian mail service is one of the worse I've known!

~gaffed~
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Mar 6, 2009 11:50pm)
Quote:

On 2009-03-06 23:29, gaffed wrote:
I believe John lives in Canada. I had to wait a long time and ended up sending him an email as it took forever! But, then again, the Canadian mail service is one of the worse I've known!

~gaffed~



I have ordered a few things from Richard Sanders and they have arrived pretty fast. I live in Missouri, if that helps.

Best,

Doug L.
Message: Posted by: tpax (Mar 7, 2009 12:31am)
I thought John lived in Colorado?? He might be on the road or out of the country.
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Mar 7, 2009 1:53pm)
He lives in denver, colorado
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Mar 8, 2009 12:32am)
Sorry, I must have gotten confused with Richard Sanders living in Canada.
Anyway, it took almost a month before I received QB 2 from John. Just one of those things that happens at times I suppose and I did have to send an email to inquire as to what the problem was.

~gaffed~
Message: Posted by: richgerb86 (Mar 11, 2009 1:52pm)
Thanks! I sent payment for mine about 3 weeks ago, & have not heard anything. I am not impatient, just anxious.
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Mar 11, 2009 9:56pm)
Quote:

On 2009-03-11 13:52, richgerb86 wrote:
Thanks! I sent payment for mine about 3 weeks ago, & have not heard anything. I am not impatient, just anxious.



Understandable. It's well worth the wait. Just make sure you have a roll of quarters and get ready for a little bit of practice and working out a routine. Once done you'll never leave the house without it!

~gaffed~
Message: Posted by: Brett Sirrell Magician (Mar 12, 2009 7:53pm)
Just got my QB2 the other day. I used it to great reaction! A relief after the outlay. I tagged it onto the ending of another routine which used a signed coin. So I knew there would be no "heat" allowing me time and misdirection to bend the coin.

Very nervously I filed down the working part a bit today to fit coins a bit better and make sure all the coins here in the uk bent in the middle. Personally I think if QB2.1 came out maybe this might be taken into consideration.

Out of curiosity what routines are people using?

I am still nervous about taking a coin and doing a bend straight off. Maybe I am thinking of putting in a second coin in the routine for misdirection. Any ideas? What are others doing?
Message: Posted by: invisible (Mar 12, 2009 9:32pm)
I own QB1, is QB2 the same but better materials or is the design different?
Message: Posted by: tpax (Mar 12, 2009 10:55pm)
Because I tensed my face and arms and just couldn't do it without showing exertion I needed to script in a reason to shudder. This movement covers the bend. Think of a chill running down your spine and that's what I mimic.
Also, video tape yourself. It lets you see what the spectators see when you do the dirty work.
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Mar 13, 2009 12:27pm)
I think I mentioned in an earlier post that I use the Uri Geller approach as suggested by gabelson albeit a tad different. I do the bend right in front of their faces and they never notice and also a bit of misdirection. This also gives me an excuse to show a little exertion while bending the coin as I had to work out this type of routine due to some arthritis in my hand. Works out beautifully!

~gaffed~
Message: Posted by: Neznarf (Mar 13, 2009 1:36pm)
QB II on a plane.

I taking a flight next week.

Are they going to confiscated \ take my QB II?

If I have it in my pocket or carry on.

Can anyone comment on this from past experience.

PM me or post and PM.

Thanks- Nez
Message: Posted by: invisible (Mar 13, 2009 1:43pm)
No they will not confiscate it, they might see it in your bag and want to look at it, but you should be fine.

Posted: Mar 13, 2009 1:45pm
It may be a little awkward explaining what it is to the bag checker, so think ahead about how you will explain what it is.
Message: Posted by: DougNicols (Mar 13, 2009 2:36pm)
Quote:

On 2009-03-13 13:36, Neznarf wrote:
Are they going to confiscated \ take my QB II?
If I have it in my pocket or carry on.



I'd be surprised if they let you carry it onto the plane. Personally I'd use checked luggage inside the original packaging.
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Mar 17, 2009 8:58pm)
Hey fellas,

Just received my QB 2.0. It's a very nice apparatus.

Does anyone know if the burned dvd is the newest one, with the extra handlings?

Also, is QB 2.0 supposed to come in a folder, with a certificate of authenticity? A friend showed me his and it came with a folder, etc.

Best,

D.L.
Message: Posted by: kissdadookie (Mar 17, 2009 11:32pm)
They do not come in folders anymore. They all now come in ziplocs with the DVD. There's only one version of the DVD out I believe. It still comes with a registration card though, so I think you may get the certificate if you send in your registration card? Not sure, but you already got the goody Doug, which is the bender. Dead simple to use and thus far I can't see how one would be able to top the QB2 for a coin bender.
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Mar 20, 2009 11:57pm)
Well,

Been bending all kinds of change. Nickels are the toughest to bend. Pennies and dime are like bending a stick of butter. I'm very pleased with this apparatus.

I had a bunch of quarters on my t.v. stand. I proceed to bend them and one of them pops open with a thin piece of metal inside.














Yep, you guessed it, a shimmed quarter.

LOL,

Doug L.
Message: Posted by: Neznarf (Mar 22, 2009 2:15pm)
Quote . . .
QB II on a plane.
I taking a flight next week.
Are they going to confiscated \ take my QB II?
If I have it in my pocket or carry on.
Can anyone comment on this from past experience.

So this is what happened:

The QB2 was flagged in my luggage and I had to explain it but I got to keep it.
The funny part was . . . I carry a black cylinder that make a loud squeeking sound when you shake it like a salt shaker. (got it from Bob Little). So the inspector asked me what it was and I told her to shake it, she didand it made a LOUD squeeking noise. Everyone looked when she did it so she shook it again. Pretty funny!

On way back I had QB2 in pocket. My luggage didn't get flagged. I have coins metal rings and other stuff but it got through. But I had to explain the QB2 in my pocket.

So there ya go.
Message: Posted by: LBP MAGIC (Mar 22, 2009 6:49pm)
How did you explain it?
Message: Posted by: kissdadookie (Mar 22, 2009 10:17pm)
That it was a magic apparatus I presume ;)
Message: Posted by: Amazing Magic Co (Mar 23, 2009 7:41pm)
I've traveled with it in my baggage with no trouble. I did place it in a bag with a number of Sharpies and my magic biss card. I have not tried it as carry on yet.

Dan.
Message: Posted by: Neznarf (Mar 23, 2009 8:10pm)
The flight was from Tucson, AZ to LasVegas, NV.

1 hour flight.

So that's why I only had a carry on.

Yes it was explained out as one of my magic props.
Message: Posted by: Sammy J. (Apr 6, 2009 1:00am)
How sad how we now have to be concerned with such things. In the old days (pre 9/11) you never even thought about stuff like what you can take on an airplane. My Jardonett fire wallet is my normal wallet now. Better not try to fly with it!
I used to travel extensively for business, and always carried my close up magic with me. Now that I'm retired, I mainly drive where I need to go. Bottom line, leave the fire wallet at home!
Message: Posted by: Badger (Sep 24, 2009 12:09am)
I have a friend who went to magic live, he had to explain what the QB was and what it is used for. but for me I do not want to take chances, the bottom line is you never know what they will do. QB 2.0. It's a very nice apparatus and I would hate to have it confiscated.
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Sep 24, 2009 12:59am)
Hi Everyone,

I have flown with my QB2 so many times, it feels like a million. Here's what I do. I always have it in my pocket. At the security check point I take out the QB2 along with a sharpie. I lay them down side by side, in the plastic bin. I place a half dollar directly over the center of both, and then drop some other change around them. I then empty my other pockets contents, & place it next to the Sharpie & QB2. To date, I have never been stopped using this method.
One other time I forgot to remove it from my pocket. I explained that it was a magic prop, I then handed them a business card and I was on my way. I hope this helps, and I'm glad to hear that all of you are getting so much use out of it. :)

Magically,
John
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Sep 30, 2009 5:10pm)
Daniel Garcia was at the Magic in the Rockies and picked up a QB2. He is one very satisfied customer!!
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Dec 14, 2009 5:21pm)
Hello,

I posted this on another thread, and I thought it fit well here too:

The Quantum Bender 2.0 demo video shows just one routine of about a dozen or so that are included on the QB2 DVD. Many of the routines on the QB2 DVD were contributed by other professional magicians and mentalists. The routine that I selected for the demo video is quick and to the point to give other magicians and mentalists a good idea of the ability and ease of use of the device. I knew that many magicians/mentalists would know "when and where the work" was done, while the lay people would not. I chose to show this routine several times, all the way through, from begining to end, at different angles, with NO cuts, edits, or deceptive camera tactics. I did this so others could make informed decisions before making the investment. I hope this type of demo is appreciated(?). It's not too often in the magic industry that this happens, as the fast pase, heavily edited, MTV video style is currently very popular. The QB2 DVD also explains different styles of presentations, handling tips, psycology, bending revelations, etc, etc.
I'm also happy to say that many performers are calling the QB2 a "Modern Classic", as it's used everyday in thier professional careers. Also, thank you all, for all of your support.

Magically,
John
Message: Posted by: magikonrad (Dec 16, 2009 7:03pm)
Quote:

On 2007-03-25 20:09, Mike Doogan wrote:
$599 or a simple switch? I know which I prefer.



$250 on e-bay
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Dec 16, 2009 8:10pm)
Hello,

Recently someone asked me if I could provide a link to David Blaine performing the Quantum Bender 2.0 on his TV special. I though someone here on the Café posted a link several months ago. I can't seem to find it now. Would anyone here be able to help me find it and re-post it? Thank you!

Also, here is a little bit of additional info and some opinions about the QB2: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=342829&forum=109&23

Posted: Dec 21, 2009 3:12am
Hello,

I have found one of two videos (that I know of), with David Blaine performing the QB2. Unfortunately the video that I haven't been able to find (which was from the "Dive of Death" TV spacial) is the better one. I hope to find it soon and post it as well.

Here's the first one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_m1xLqQLAA
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Dec 21, 2009 3:34am)
Thanks John!!!
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Jan 14, 2010 2:14am)
Hi all,

Recently on another thread someone asked for some presentation or misdirection tips for getting the coin into the QB2 device. I thought the advice might help a few people here too. There is a ton of info on the QB2 DVD, but here is some additional info as well. Keep in mind that there really is no wrong way, or right way to use this device. I think a lot of it has to do with trial and error. Remember "don't run when your not being chased". One idea is to use a "you do as I do" type of presentation. Also direct questions work wonders. Ask them something, and they will almost always look up at you, or look at their neighbor. This is a perfect time to insert the coin. I use the line "you know that you can't bend a coin, right?" just in case they are burning my hands, as this line appears to them as though I am just demonstrating that it "cannot" happen. Also from time to time I will use a joke like "have you ever seen the trick where the magician taps the coin with a pen and it disappears? -well, I don't do that trick". This creates a moment where the spectators relax, their guard is down, and they laugh. This too is a perfect time to insert the coin. Sometimes I will ask them if they know what this particular type of coin is made of, as this works very well too. You could easily use a handling with a second coin or another prop to create the misdirection. You could yell "look there's Elvis!" -Just kidding(I wouldn't really do that)! As with anything, it does take some practice, and the more you do it, the better you'll get. Also, on the QB2 DVD I talk about "inserting the coin, then faking that you carry the coin away in your other hand to create a time delay, and a false perception as to how much time the two objects spent together". Here is an example of a great routine that was designed for it's use with the QB2, and uses another prop for misdirection: http://kranzomagic.myshopify.com/products/all-day-bender
I hope this helps!

Magically,
John
Message: Posted by: doktorp (Feb 24, 2010 2:26am)
The key here is, to handle the QB in a very relaxed way. As if you don't care. Just try to relax...
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Mar 1, 2010 4:06am)
Quote:

On 2010-02-24 02:26, doktorp wrote:
The key here is, to handle the QB in a very relaxed way. As if you don't care. Just try to relax...



yes indeed, always with me for every gig.

C
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Mar 23, 2010 5:27pm)
Hello,

I feel that I should warn others about knock-off "Quantum Bender 2.0's" being sold on Ebay. It has been brought to my attention by many Magic Café members, several of them who have made the purchase and have been VERY disappointed. The Ebay ad is deceptive and is using part of the ad copy from my original "Quantum Bender" ad. They are calling the knock-off "Power of God" and subtitling it "Quantum Bender 2.0". They are also using MY demo video, of me performing it. I do NOT support or endorse any of this. The knock-offs are inferior in quality, materials, workmanship, and design. The seller has been telling many people that it is the same thing but just being made by "China Magic". He is also telling people that the originals are also made in China. This is absolutely NOT true! The originals are made in the USA, by me. The original "Quantum Bender 2.0" is designed to look like a "Sharpie" brand pen, and NOT a "Pilot" brand pen. Please do NOT make the mistake of buying a knock-off as you WILL be disappointed and I cannot stand behind them. Please do the right thing and support the original. Thank you.

Magically,
John
Message: Posted by: nickivory (Mar 24, 2010 1:18am)
Nothing beats the genuine quantum bender from John Sheets. I've had mine for years and I NEVER not have it on my person. This is THE best investment any magician can make.
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Mar 24, 2010 1:24am)
Sad to hear some hack is trying to rip you off John. Stick with the original and the best, fellas!
Message: Posted by: Nat (May 27, 2010 8:50pm)
I agree without question. QB2 is a true classic, a real gem! If you are looking for a reputation builder, look no further!
Nat


[quote]
On 2010-03-24 01:18, nickivory wrote:
Nothing beats the genuine quantum bender from John Sheets. I've had mine for years and I NEVER not have it on my person. This is THE best investment any magician can make.
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Jul 11, 2010 10:49am)
Hey QB2 owners, please drop by this thread and help out a new owner :)

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=371986&forum=37&1
Message: Posted by: SinMan (Jul 14, 2010 3:30pm)
I bought the Quantum Bender 2.0 this week after playing around with it I feel its not for me.
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Jul 14, 2010 4:24pm)
I wouldn't write off an effect after 1 week. How many times have you performed it for others? If like to see you perform it, maybe someone could video tape you and we can see if here's any areas to help you in.
Message: Posted by: SinMan (Jul 14, 2010 5:57pm)
It's a great tool just not for me I rather sell it and use the money for something more my style.

Thanks thou lunatik
Message: Posted by: insight (Jul 14, 2010 6:17pm)
For those who keep this, it will be a great investment.

Regards,
Mike
Message: Posted by: Lou Cirulli (Jul 15, 2010 4:46am)
So I gave this a shot at my restaurant gig tonight and all I have to say is.........you guys were so right! Lunatik, thanks for the help my friend!!I did this at least 6 times tonite and people came up to me saying "bend my quarter. bend my quarter!" This was awesome and the move we spoke about earlier I didn't really have a problem with. Thanks to everyone who helped me with this!
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Jul 16, 2010 2:13am)
Hi,

I'm glad to hear about all of the success, and the stories that so many of you have shared on your use of the QB2. Here is another link that I thought may be of interest to some of you. http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=342829&forum=109
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Jul 21, 2010 12:41pm)
Which euro's has anyone had any luck with? are there certain ones to stay away from and others that are easy to bend?
Message: Posted by: RayLum (Jul 21, 2010 1:47pm)
You guys got to combined it Elite Coin Bend, then take a look at all the spectators faces! Priceless!
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Jul 21, 2010 7:43pm)
With the quantum bender, you can use any state quarter they give you. in fact, they can take a quarter out of their pocket, initial both sides, note the year and state the quarter is, BLAM it's bent visually in front of them and they get to keep THEIR quarter :)

It doesn't get much better than that!
Message: Posted by: Lou Cirulli (Jul 22, 2010 2:47am)
Agreed Rich! I CANNOT stop performing it! I love it! Personally I feel the Elite Bending Coin wouldn't work too well considering all quarters are different now and they will see that the EBC is not THEIR quarter bending!
Message: Posted by: nonvpro (Jul 28, 2010 6:18pm)
Received my brand new QB2 a couple of days ago direct from John Sheets. I'm one happy camper.
Message: Posted by: Navy (Jul 28, 2010 10:20pm)
I have a few methods of coin bending. I have something very similar to Quantum. It actually came out before Quantum but the method is very similar. It takes a lot of misdirection and a good routine as Quantum does. Elite coin is very strong and I own it. I like it, but Pete Biro and Joe Porper by far have two products that are similar. Folding money and their other product are both similar. It all is quick and the easiest then Quantum and the product that I own similar to Quantum. Then again, a good old fashioned switch is fine by me too.
Message: Posted by: DP the Great (Jul 29, 2010 8:48am)
This is one of my top three favorite tricks and top three best reactions by audience. No one ever anticipates you ending a coin, that is why it is so cool.

However, I bought it a few years ago right when 2.0 came out and I still havent sent in my registration card. If I send that in, will I get the DVD everyone is talking about? Thanks -DP
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Jul 29, 2010 12:11pm)
Yep, you'll get the DVD asap!
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Aug 4, 2010 10:38pm)
Hi Guys,

This topic has come up a few times so I thought I'd mention it.
I just went through a security checkpoint at DIA airport, with the QB2, and did NOT
get stopped. It was in my carry-on in a small aluminum case, with other props such as, cards, coins, Sharpies, etc.. It still has not been an issue for me. We will see what happens on the return flight. Until then, happy bending, and happy flights.
Message: Posted by: Matthew Jones (Aug 5, 2010 1:22am)
Hi John, I got something I'd like to ask you.

I was planning on buying Coinvexed 2.0 but right before I was about to buy it I heard that it's impossible to bend Canadian Coins with it so I didn't buy it. So I've decided to start saving up for QB2 and I would like to ask you something about it, will it be able to bend Canadian Coins? I don't want to spend $500 on something I'll never be able to use. Please let me know.

Sincerely,

Matthew
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Aug 5, 2010 4:58am)
I thought it would be difficult to bend US quarters and bugged members to death and discovered it is easy as cake. I think nickels take some work but personally I never could remember if I tried any. I just sluff it off and ask for another coin.

Decomp
Message: Posted by: Blindside785 (Aug 5, 2010 7:10am)
I was thinking about getting CV2.0..but I really can't decide. But in the meanwhile, I'm slowly gonna be saving up for this. It's gonna be my most expensive magic purchase ever. I've never spent more than 90 dollars on a product. Sounds like a worker. :D Within 10 months I'll have a QB2 :D
Message: Posted by: nonvpro (Aug 5, 2010 12:05pm)
I've read everything I could find pertaining to the QB2. So finally, 3 weeks ago or so, I contacted John Sheets and made my purchase direct from him. What a stand-up guy. He was a pleasure to deal with and his customer service leaves nothing to be desired.

As far as the QB2 goes, perfect. The concept and construction of the QB2 is of the highest quality and does exctly what it was designed to do. Not only that, it's easy to use. For me the only draw-back was actually executing the move in front of people. I have to admit I was a little nervous my first time out with my new QB2. I execute the move as I'm explaining to my audience it's impossible to bend a coin in one's bare hands. It flys by everyone. Again, perfect.

I have had nothing but positive responds from my spectators. I've watched them play with the bent coin during the rest of my performance.

Shoud you get a QB2. Positively not. I'm glad it has a high price tag. This is not for you! Seriously, if your a working pro or not, and want to fry people's minds and at the sametime leaving them with a momento of your performance, then this is for you.
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Aug 5, 2010 2:14pm)
Nonprov has 666 posts, HE HAS COME!!!!!!!!!.......



To bend coins hehehe
Message: Posted by: nonvpro (Aug 5, 2010 2:22pm)
I have 666 posts. Beware!!!
Message: Posted by: Navy (Aug 9, 2010 8:34pm)
I have folding Money and the Terminator. These are both killers and very strong, with little misdirection needed.
Message: Posted by: scott0819 (Aug 11, 2010 11:57am)
To answer Matthew's question: the QB2 will bend any canadian coin except for $1 and $2 coins. A quarter is the largest coin the gimmick will 'accept', if that makes sense. I think it is fine because in my mind bending a smaller coin seems much more difficult due to the lack of leverage.
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Aug 12, 2010 6:08pm)
Thanks Scott0819, for answering Mathews question.

Also, just for the record the return flight went without any issues. I think the key is to just have the QB2 in something with a bunch of other magic props like coins, cards, pens, Sharpies, etc..
Message: Posted by: toph (Aug 25, 2010 11:03pm)
Quote:

On 2009-12-21 03:12, John T. Sheets wrote:
Hello,

I have found one of two videos (that I know of), with David Blaine performing the QB2. Unfortunately the video that I haven't been able to find (which was from the "Dive of Death" TV spacial) is the better one. I hope to find it soon and post it as well.

Here's the first one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_m1xLqQLAA



I believe this is the one..Forward to 8:35 on Part 4 of The Dive of Death series.
You see the QB2 in real action!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJykx12R1aA&feature=related
Message: Posted by: mysterious_guy (Aug 26, 2010 9:59pm)
How is this for bending UK coins? Could it manage 2p/10p/20p/50p?
Message: Posted by: toph (Sep 2, 2010 3:02pm)
Just sent my payment directly to Mr. Sheets for the QB2. I cannot wait!

His customer service is exceptional, always responded to my emails/questions same day. I wouldnt purchase this effect other than directly through Mr. Sheets.

The count down begins. I have my roll of quarters ready..Shouldnt take too long to get from Colorado to San Francisco!
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Sep 4, 2010 1:00am)
Quote:

On 2010-08-12 18:08, John T. Sheets wrote:
Also, just for the record the return flight went without any issues. I think the key is to just have the QB2 in something with a bunch of other magic props like coins, cards, pens, Sharpies, etc..




I had the Quantum Bender with no other magic props on my carry-on. The TSA worker took it out of the case I store it in and looked at it and put it back. He didn't ask what it was for so I did not tell him!
Message: Posted by: toph (Sep 4, 2010 12:47pm)
Quote:

On 2010-09-04 01:00, Douglas Lippert wrote:
Quote:

On 2010-08-12 18:08, John T. Sheets wrote:
Also, just for the record the return flight went without any issues. I think the key is to just have the QB2 in something with a bunch of other magic props like coins, cards, pens, Sharpies, etc..




I had the Quantum Bender with no other magic props on my carry-on. The TSA worker took it out of the case I store it in and looked at it and put it back. He didn't ask what it was for so I did not tell him!



Would you mind sharing what kind of case you store your QB in? Thanks!
Message: Posted by: magicmanfrank (Sep 4, 2010 1:19pm)
I have a question.

Has ANYONE who owns a QB2 ever BROKEN or Damaged one?

The only reason I am asking is that lately as I am doing the bend, I am getting this feeling that it is going to break!

I ONLY use American Quarters, nothing thicker.

I'm not sure I can really explain it, it's just a feeling I get.

=Frank=
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Sep 4, 2010 2:10pm)
Hi Frank,

I have NEVER had a QB2 break, nor have I ever heard of it happening.
Don't worry about it. With normal use I seriously doubt that it would ever happen.
The worst I've ever heard of, is the paint scratching or chipping, and that's not a big deal at all.
The paint can be touched up or it can be repainted, which is covered on the DVD.
Message: Posted by: magicmanfrank (Sep 4, 2010 2:42pm)
O.k. John.
You are the authority!

I will bend away!
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Sep 6, 2010 2:39am)
Please bury me with my QB2. :cool:
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Sep 9, 2010 3:30am)
Quote:

On 2010-09-06 02:39, Decomposed wrote:
Please bury me with my QB2. :cool:


Awesome. ;)

Posted: Sep 12, 2010 4:38pm
Hi mysterious_guy,

The QB2 will bend 2P, 10P. 20P, and 50P. The 10P and 20P work extremely well. The 2P, and 50P doesn't fit all the way into the QB2, but you can still create a bend on them. I learned this info from another thread. I hope it answers your question adequately.
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Sep 13, 2010 12:08am)
Quote:

On 2010-09-04 12:47, toph wrote:
Quote:

On 2010-09-04 01:00, Douglas Lippert wrote:
Quote:

On 2010-08-12 18:08, John T. Sheets wrote:
Also, just for the record the return flight went without any issues. I think the key is to just have the QB2 in something with a bunch of other magic props like coins, cards, pens, Sharpies, etc..




I had the Quantum Bender with no other magic props on my carry-on. The TSA worker took it out of the case I store it in and looked at it and put it back. He didn't ask what it was for so I did not tell him!



Would you mind sharing what kind of case you store your QB in? Thanks!



Sure, no problem. I'll PM you as well in case you don't read this post.

I use a regular hard shell eyeglass case to store my QB 2.0 along with a Sharpie. The felt material inside keeps the device from getting scratched or dirty.
Message: Posted by: Zaprig1 (Sep 13, 2010 5:54pm)
Good idea Douglas!

I store my QB 2.0 in the top of a checkbook case with a Sharpie along side it. Behind the checks is a great place to keep my Extreme Burn savings account ($606.00 cash for magical and other emergencies ;) ) I can also store some coin gaffs and packet tricks behind the checks. This little package packs a solid 15 to 30 minutes of killer magic depending on the situation I need it for and also comes in handy for the checks too!

Posted: Sep 13, 2010 5:57pm
I posted this info on another recent thread, but thought it relevant here as I hadn't seen the main thread on the QB 2.0 yet really (I don't think):

I think I completely underestimated the killer impact this has on lay peeps! Thinking way too much like a magician, I was soooooo totally wrong. I close all my close up with this now and for good reason!

Finally, you just can't beat John's customer service. I'd buy two (because I try to have two of everything that I actually USE in my acts) if I didn't already know this thing will outlast a nuclear blast. Sorry about not getting something out sooner John as I've meant to, but better late than never. Thanks again for this MONSTER mini miracle!!!

Best,
Christian

Posted: Sep 13, 2010 6:00pm
PS. BEWARE of copies! I actually bought one (VERY reluctantly) from some choad on the Café here from South East Asia. Of course I'm sure if I mentioned a name, this post would "get bent" quicker than the QB bends a roll of quarters, but you know who you are and I have a feeling plenty of others do too thanks to John Sheets hopefully!

Fortunately for me, John was able to identify the thing was a cheap Asian rip-off and the guy was trying to off it to fund a REAL QB 2.0 he'd just recently bought. Some stones huh? I just had no idea something like this could be ripped off, but like anything, I guess it can be in magic. I got MOST of my $ back before it shipped thanks to John's quick help, but he (the aforementioned Jagasaurus from Asia) still ganked me out of about $39 in PayPal fees he refused to refund.

Just another good reason to deal DIRECTLY with the source! Huge lesson for me that I hope saves a lot of you "good guys" some serious grief!

Thanks again John!
Message: Posted by: toph (Sep 14, 2010 2:19pm)
Quote:

On 2010-09-13 18:00, Zaprig1 wrote:
PS. BEWARE of copies!!! I actually bought one (VERY reluctantly) from some choad on the Café here from South East Asia. Of course I'm sure if I mentioned a name, this post would "get bent" quicker than the QB bends a roll of quarters, but you know who you are and I have a feeling plenty of others do too thanks to John Sheets hopefully!

Fortunately for me, John was able to identify the thing was a cheap Asian rip-off and the guy was trying to off it to fund a REAL QB 2.0 he'd just recently bought. Some stones huh? I just had no idea something like this could be ripped off, but like anything, I guess it can be in magic. I got MOST of my $ back before it shipped thanks to John's quick help, but he (the aforementioned Jagasaurus from Asia) still ganked me out of about $39 in PayPal fees he refused to refund.

Just another good reason to deal DIRECTLY with the source! Huge lesson for me that I hope saves a lot of you "good guys" some serious grief!

Thanks again John!



WOW, I cant believe a member of The Café would have the audacity to do such a thing. Has the perp been banned? I think it is only fair to put his name on blast to warn other members who may fall victim to his scheme.

I would also like to echo the fact that if you are in the market for a QB 2.0, to deal DIRECTLY with JTS! His customer service is truly exceptional and will get back to you same day for whatever questions you have for him.

I never leave home without my QB 2.0, best purchase I've made in magic EVER.
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Sep 20, 2010 5:46am)
Hi Guys,

Thanks for all the positive comments in my products and services. I am a "one man team" so it does mean a lot when I hear such great feedback.

Yes, be aware of copies and cheap knock offs. If you are considering the purchase of a new QB2, I do suggest that you buy it from a reputable dealer, or directly from myself.
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Sep 22, 2010 8:25pm)
I bought mine from MJM Magic and it's the real deal.
Message: Posted by: omnibozo (Sep 22, 2010 10:35pm)
About carrying the QB2 around... I have two QBs, and original and a v2. The old regular one stays in my close up case for emergencies. The v2 I carry with me ALL the time. I keep it in the front pants pocket that does not have my keys and change. It still gets the paint chipped off after a few months. Since there is no heat on it, I don't worry much about that, and just repaint it every once in a while, then clear coat it. On the old one, I just wrapped it with clear packing tape, though I've since decided it didn't matter.
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Oct 17, 2010 2:44am)
Hi,


About the case. I always have my QB2 in a pocket, so it's rarely in a case. At night I remove it from my pocket, set it on my dresser, then in the morning it goes right back into my pocket.

I have recently found these leather cases of different styles and colors. I think they are pretty cool.
http://www.lanierpens.com/pen_pouches_s/68.htm?gclid=CKSJ-62k2aQCFYIKKgodZwgAKA

I have used this aluminum case, as it allows room for other props too.
http://www.harborfreight.com/11-1-2-half-inch-x-7-1-2-half-inch-x-4-1-2-half-inch-aluminum-case-36870.html

I hope this helps!
Message: Posted by: Andrew Zuber (Oct 17, 2010 12:12pm)
Wow, only $14.99 for the aluminum case? Quite a deal!
I had the opportunity to see QB2 in action for the first time this week (I know, I'm late to the party) at the shop here in town, and it's a thing of beauty. This is very strong stuff, and the gimmick is a work of art.
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Oct 17, 2010 12:43pm)
OK so I was at a party last night and a magician was using the QB2 through the night. The effect obviously blows everyone away including me - I really want one now!

But the pricing - yikes!!!

OK, I realize from reading here that most if all who own QB2 would gladly take this to their grave, etc etc...got it!

So to my mind there is no doubt that this is worth every penny (or quarter) and I presume the $500 cost is more related to the very high quality of the gimmick, the uniqueness of this product, and the fact that the price will keep this out of the hands of most hobbyists like me! I can see that QB2 probably easily pays for itself in a few gigs for the restaurant workers.

Any chance that Sheets will ever take this down a peg or two.. Sigh, I guess I may have to pay the piper as this one is too good to miss and the method of the bend is great.
Message: Posted by: Stephen Young (Oct 17, 2010 1:31pm)
I'm now in a position, I think, to be able to get one of these, but it says on the site that they won't be shipped outside the US.

I'll have to search dealers to see who stocks them.

Unless any of you have a spare one you'll let go???????

Well, no harm in asking.
But I won't hold my breath.


Steve
Message: Posted by: Eddie Garland (Oct 17, 2010 1:38pm)
I miss the search function here at the Café.
Could someone PM the precise paint names I should look for to touch-up my QB2?
Message: Posted by: Andrew Zuber (Oct 17, 2010 7:39pm)
Steve - where are you located? The one I saw was bought new by a magician here in the UK.
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Oct 17, 2010 10:24pm)
Hi Steve,

I would make an exception and mail it outside of the USA. Please PM or email me and I will help you. ;)
Message: Posted by: Neznarf (Oct 18, 2010 12:27am)
We have a Harbor Frieght here in Tucson, AZ.

I have one of each of the cases and so do most of the magicians in town.

http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?category=&q=aluminum+case
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Oct 18, 2010 3:59am)
You can find that type of case at Lowe's (it's a home improvement store) for around $20. I don't like them very much as everything inside gets tossed around and it feels flimsy.

I've used a "make-up" case as well which works very nicely. I'm looking for a small ATA case or gun case with the foam padding to keep everything from moving. Has anyone found one?

In regards to the eyeglass tip I gave, I've also used the black felt cover that comes with John's Pen Thru Anything (the fancy version) to protect the coin bender from scratches.
Message: Posted by: lucavolpe (Oct 18, 2010 6:26am)
And about Euro coins?
:)
Message: Posted by: Stephen Young (Oct 18, 2010 8:34am)
Euro coins, exactly!

That's the only thing stopping me ordering.
I need to know 100% which euro coins it will and will not bend.

Anyone in europe can answer this, anyone willing to do a test if I send some coins?

Also (maybe a dumb question) can it be used to bend keys?


Steve
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Oct 19, 2010 2:44am)
I would be happy to test any foreign coins that you may want to send to me.
Message: Posted by: Stephen Young (Oct 19, 2010 5:39am)
I just sent some Euro coins to John, so anyone wanting to know for sure one way or the other, Luca for example.

Watch this space.

I find it amazing that no one seems to have tried it on a key!


Steve
Message: Posted by: lucavolpe (Oct 19, 2010 7:41am)
Good job steve!
;)
Message: Posted by: SinMan (Oct 24, 2010 7:16pm)
Gave it a lot of time worked very hard getting it right but still its not for me thanks to all that helped and also to John T. Sheets
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Oct 24, 2010 10:40pm)
I keep mine in a trusty hard eyeclass case. I wrap it up in a blankey and tuck it in after every performance. Sweet dreams my love, you have done so well. :cool:

Decomp
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Nov 10, 2010 3:48pm)
This looks like a great pen holder for the price ...

http://www.amazon.com/Royce-Leather-Double-Pen-Case/dp/B0001ZSXVM/ref=pd_sbs_op_8
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Nov 11, 2010 4:19am)
Hi Guys,

Just thought I'd let you know that the QB2 will be out of production and unavailable for approximately 3 months, or possibly more. The machine shop is extremely busy and way behind schedule. I do believe that some dealers are accepting pre-orders on the next batch. I currently have two QB2's in stock, but I don't think for long. Sorry for any inconvenience that this may cause.
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Nov 14, 2010 11:05am)
I just discovered that the small Tenyo "Fortune Sticks" black carry case perfectly holds the QB 2 and an ungimmicked *en too - like a glove. Not fancy mind you but it works.
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Nov 18, 2010 3:40am)
To answer the key question. Yes, the QB2 will easily twist a key, but not bend a key. It is really cool to have the added bonus of being able to twist (signed) keys. ;)
Message: Posted by: Magic1 (Dec 9, 2010 5:56am)
Any advice on the off-beat and misdirection for the b*nd? Scripting? I just got QB2 this week (thanks John for your help) and am waiting for the opportune moment to try this gutsy maneuver. Thanks!
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Dec 9, 2010 8:10am)
Pm me for my midirection
Message: Posted by: Stephen Young (Dec 9, 2010 8:10am)
My QB II is on its' way over.
I'm pleased to hear about the key twist.

I will also be hoping to come up with a good misdirection technique.

When it arrives I'll do testing on euro coins in case anyone else wants to know how it handles them.

Steve
Message: Posted by: Brian Lehr (Dec 10, 2010 1:42am)
Woo Hoo! I won the bidding war on Ebay tonight, and got myself a QB 2.0 for $330! Looking forward to getting it in a week or so. No DVD unfortunately, so hopefully the written instructions will be sufficient.

Brian
Message: Posted by: Stephen Young (Dec 10, 2010 7:15am)
You lucky b*****d!!!!!

Steve
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Dec 11, 2010 2:12am)
Be careful about QB2's on EBay. There has been someone selling cheap knock offs. They are cheaper in quality, materials, and craftsmanship. The design is off, which makes it less precise and less reliable. Do NOT buy anything that looks like a Pilot brand pen, as they are way off. I recommend buying a QB2 from a reputable dealer or myself. I hope this helps.
Message: Posted by: magicmanfrank (Dec 11, 2010 6:02am)
This is the EXACT same style case that I purchased on ebay for under 10 bucks!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rosetta-Napa-Leather-Double-Slot-Pen-Case-BLACK-/400133423456?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d29cf8160

Works very well in holding BOTH the QB2 and a regular Sharpie!

=Frank=
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Dec 11, 2010 12:29pm)
I've received a lot of PM's as to what I personally use for misdirection. So I thought I'd post it here. I hope it spurs additional thoughts!




here's some of my personal thoughts on QB2 misdirection and they've never failed me to this day. Sometimes it's hard to put actions into words, if you have any questions, please ask!


I ask my spec "do you know what telekinesis is?" (the ability to move something with your mind) and when I ask the question, I raise my hand with the QB to about eye level as a gesture. The split second that I end the question, I lower that hand down to my other hand in which is holding their quarter at my finger tips and insert it.

Their attention is directed to look up and then a question is asked. They rarely look down in the 1 1/2 - 2 seconds while I insert the coin. Usually the answer is no, but you'll notice when you ask a question, most of the time they will subconsciously look away while they think about the question, perfect :)

And for the times that they don't, they just see my hands come together. Run through this a couple of times and you'll see that it is a very easy and natural way to insert the coin and everything is motivated, no crazy ackward moments.


When I go to bend the coin, I usually will say to them, ' I'd like to try an experiment with you, do you want to use your right hand or left hand?' and when I say "right" I will point to their hand and in that motion bend the coin...dirty work is done in that split second and I get rid of the sharpie.




For the few specs that are burning your hands and refuse to make any sort of eye contact, you can still do the bend in front of them as they have no idea as to what the effect is and for all purposes, you're just holding their borrowed signed quarter and the sharpie they just used a couple of seconds ago. BUT, if you're still uneasy, what you could do since they refuse to stop staring at your hands is to turn 45 degrees away from them and ask out loud "Does anyone else want to see a miracle?" and in that moment, you've bent the coin and you can then put away the QB2 while turning back to your spec. He physically won't be able to see your hands and you being a magician, it's understandable that you want others to see something amazing! Hope this helps
Message: Posted by: nonvpro (Dec 11, 2010 1:41pm)
Check this out:

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=393310&forum=5&1
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Dec 11, 2010 2:10pm)
If you're performing for a group, I've found that Skin by Benjamin Earl is VERY VERY good!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSWRwxdcmYU
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Dec 11, 2010 7:23pm)
Thanks Lunatik! You are the man
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Dec 12, 2010 3:00am)
Hi Guys,

On the topic of misdirection. There is a ton of info on the QB2 DVD, however here is some additional info as well.

Keep in mind that there really is no wrong way, or right way to use this device. I think a lot of it has to do with trial and error and your personal preference. Remember "don't run when your not being chased". One idea is to use a "you do as I do" type of presentation. Also direct questions work wonders. Ask them something, and they will almost always look up at you, or look at their neighbor. This is a perfect time to insert or bend the coin.

I use the line "you know that you cannot bend a coin, right?" just in case they are burning my hands, as this line appears to them as though I am just demonstrating that it "cannot" happen. Also from time to time I will use a joke like "have you ever seen the trick where the magician taps the coin with a pen and it disappears? -well, I don't do that trick". This creates a moment where the spectators relax, their guard is down, and they laugh. This too is a perfect time to insert the coin.

Sometimes I will ask them if they know what this particular type of coin is made of, as this works very well too. Just tonight at a show, I asked a group of people if they knew what a US Quarter was made of. They usually all look up at me with a puzzled look on their face, which makes for perfect misdirection. Sometimes someone will know the answer and as they reply, everyone will look at that person, which happens to be great misdirection as well. Tonight a lady answered "Metal". Everyone laughed and that became a moment for the work.

You could easily use a handling with a second coin or another prop to create the misdirection.

You could yell "look there's Elvis!" -Just kidding (I wouldn't really do that)!

As with anything, it does take some practice, and the more you do it, the better you'll get. Also, on the QB2 DVD I talk about "inserting the coin, then faking that you carry the coin away in your other hand to create a time delay, and a false perception as to how much time the two objects spent together".

Here is an example of a great routine by Nathan Kranzo, that was designed for it's use with the QB2, and uses another prop for misdirection: http://kranzomagic.myshopify.com/products/all-day-bender


I hope this helps.
Message: Posted by: Stephen Young (Dec 14, 2010 10:51am)
My QBII just arrived !!!!!!!

Thanks for the service John.

Now I have a problem...
I have a polish photo model coming to see me tonight to talk about an fetish shoot she wants to do.
And I want to watch the DVD that came with my new toy.

Do I cancel the model?
Or put off playing with QBII until tomorrow?

Life is cruel sometimes


Steve
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Dec 14, 2010 11:00am)
Quote:

On 2010-12-14 10:51, steveline wrote:
My QBII just arrived !!!!!!!

Thanks for the service John.

Now I have a problem...
I have a polish photo model coming to see me tonight to talk about an fetish shoot she wants to do.
And I want to watch the DVD that came with my new toy.

Do I cancel the model?

Or put off playing with QBII until tomorrow?

Life is cruel sometimes


Steve



Are you now teasing your dear friends here at the Café Steve?

We all know that somehow you'll do the right thing!

Just keep repeating... "Fetish shoot...QB2...Fetish Shoot...QB2...." !!! :)
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Dec 14, 2010 1:06pm)
Ever heard of multitasking?
Message: Posted by: Stephen Young (Dec 14, 2010 4:09pm)
Problem solved
Photoshoot arranged for end of December
Model was gone by 8:30
Rest of the evening for playing

Multitasking?
Response from brain: Sorry does not compute

Steve
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Dec 14, 2010 4:47pm)
QB and the model together lol
Message: Posted by: Stephen Young (Dec 18, 2010 4:47am)
I just posted my ideas for QBII presentation here:

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=394283&forum=106&0

Hope it some use to people.


Steve
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Dec 18, 2010 1:01pm)
Good stuff Steve, thanks.

Decomp
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Dec 22, 2010 12:53pm)
Hi Guys,

I just wanted to let you all know that there is yet another QB2 knock-off making the rounds on EBay. Be aware as they are very poorly manufactured. I have been contacted from people that have made the mistake and are VERY disappointed. There are many flaws in the knock-offs. The original QB2's are made of high quality stainless steel, and will NOT rust. The knock-offs are regular steel, and are rusting. Also, the Pivoting Joint is NOT machined as precise, the logo is wrong, as well as other design flaws, etc., etc.. If you are considering the purchase of a QB2, I would STRONGLY suggest that you purchase one through a reputable dealer or myself. I cannot stand behind the knock-offs, and no I cannot take them as a trade in towards the real deal. I hope this helps.
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Dec 23, 2010 9:31pm)
I had QB2 with me for bar gig where I would think change would be plentiful. It took me a long while but finally I was able to do QB2 only twice the entire evening. I think the only thing I can do is bring my own change. I suspect some will think they are magic coins but they can keep it afterwards of course. Amazed how lack of coin money is occuring where I live.
Message: Posted by: nonvpro (Dec 23, 2010 9:39pm)
I do just that. I have a small Ton Onosaka coin purse with me when I perform. I carry about a dozen quarters in it. If no one has a quarter with them, I then bring out the purse and give them a free choice of any quarter. After I do the bend, I give it to them as a keep sake. I have never had anyone question whether or not it's a real quarter.
Message: Posted by: omnibozo (Dec 27, 2010 10:09pm)
I always come loaded with lots of quarters. So, you give a few away in a couple of hours of walk around... maybe we raise our prices to more than $10 and hour! People in tuxes and gowns rarely have a handful of change... so just give the dang things away. If you are really cheap, take along a handful of pennies and dimes... and you can bend the shot out of those suckers! John and I researched a lot of companies that make custom promo coins. The idea was to leave the spec with a souvenir that also had my contact info on it. We decided that no matter how cool the coin/token looked... it was not something they had ever seen before... and was therefor suspicious. So we dropped that idea. I haven't done it yet, but it occurred to me that it would be almost as good if I had tiny envelopes printed up with all that contact info... and a line about... "LaRue bent this signed coin just for me on_____ (fill in the date). Now they have a place to keep the coin... the sharpie doesn't rub off... they have your contact info... and it is further personalized. Dang, after carrying that QB2 in my pocket for so many years now, I better get that done!
Omnibozo
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Jan 7, 2011 1:24am)
I have found that if you are performing coin bending in a casual setting, then borrowing a coin is no problem at all. However if it is a formal event, like maybe a Black Tie event, etc. then it may be a little more challenging to borrow coins. Fewer people carry change at these types of events. Especially when they are wearing Tuxedos/Suits and Evening Gowns. The solution for me is to carry a handful of Quarters with me. I can still ask to borrow a coin, but if they don't have one, I can quickly remove one from my own pocket. Sometimes I will hold out a small handful of change and say "would you like to use yours or mine?". They seem to like having a choice, and it gets rid of any ideas of possible trickery. I also let them select which one they want to use from the selection in my hand. It also speeds up the dead air time if a lady is searching through her purse for a coin.

Some people might think "why would you give money away?". Well, it really is no big deal, as it is worth every cent. It all comes back to me in much bigger ways, through repeat bookings, new future bookings, a great reputation, and also higher performance fees. The change that is given away at each event is a very small investment on the return.

Also, sometimes I give the spectator a choice on the revelation, to either "see" the magic in my hand, or "feel" the magic in theirs. This too goes over very well.

I hope this helps. ;)
Message: Posted by: nonvpro (Jan 9, 2011 12:19pm)
I always carry a coin purse filled with quarters. Regardless of the type of event. However, I make it a point to always try and borrow a quarter first from a spectator. If they don't have one, I bring into play my coin purse and offer them one. I let them reach into the purse and pick anyone they want. Here is a link for the type of coin purse I use:

http://www.mjmmagic.com/store/coin-purse-leather-p-1699.html
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Feb 6, 2011 5:10pm)
I bought my QB2 way back in November and until recently I had been a little hesitant to try it as I kept fearing making the bend move... Dumb huh?

Well about 3 weeks ago I started using my QB2 like a good boy - and with the encouragement of Lunatik & John Sheets via PM (thanks!!!) I started performing it like a crazed hobbyist...

Let me say that the move is FAR EASIER then I ever imagined or feared.. there is plenty of time to make the bend - and I am thrilled with the QB2 like everyone else on the last 17 pages of this deservedly long thread.

I find that as others have said if you just relax and watch their eyes nice and straight - there is all the time in the world to make the bend and NOBODY ever notices anything remotely suspicious. I am still deciding which bends I like best - but I tend to live having the spec put their finger out and let the bend go upwards first.

I bought some extra touch up paint and clear coat too - but QB2 is worth every penny. Quarters bend with ease - and allows you to focus on the presentation.

I knw others have feared making the bend move since it is so bold, but if I can do it anyone can. It's like the deep end of the pool - just jump in and do it :)
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Feb 11, 2011 9:58pm)
Often I will create a "Duel Reality" by saying "you know that you CANNOT bend metal", while I'm actually bending it. In their mind they are thinking that I was just explaining how impossible it is. This is a great time to do the work, as there is no heat on it in this moment.
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Feb 13, 2011 1:47am)
John- Thanks to you for the PM's and advice - and also to Lunatik as well.

I've still been bending quarters like a madman these past weeks and I have found that I tend to get a better reaction when just before displaying the bend ... I let the spectator(s) know that I an going to try to bend their quarter.

I have tried it both ways - both with not saying a word and just revealing the bend coin - and also trying it where I tell them that I am going to try to soften and melt the metal befor their eyes.

In gauging the reactions, I find that the spectators who are told be me that the coin is going to melt and bend... and then see it happening a moment later... seem to oooooo and aaaaaaa more as then see the bend.

Someone had shared with me the idea of stating "you know that you CANNOT bend metal" while actually bending it is (perhaps) giving away the surprise ending. My experience this far however has indicated otherwise.

I think it plays better when the spectator has a preconception of what they are about to witness. To me that psychology of what is ahead helps to enforce the reality - and so far to me doesn't spoil the surprise but rather accentuates it.

QB2 is really something special!
Message: Posted by: ReviewerMaster (Feb 13, 2011 6:49am)
Love it. Wish it could be lighter though!
Message: Posted by: TKE (Feb 13, 2011 9:26am)
How much does it weigh?
Message: Posted by: ncsteve (Feb 13, 2011 11:00am)
Don't worry about the weight. If it's tires you to carry something so heavy then you aren't strong enough to bend a coin anyway. ;-)
Steve
PS-It is considerably heavier than a regular sharpie but the spectator never holds the thing anyway.
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Feb 13, 2011 12:03pm)
The weight of the QB2 is no issue at all - about as heavy as a fine man's watch.

Sheets could comment better on this subject but keep in mind that the gimmick is totally solid - not just a steel core with plastic.

"It Is made out of better materials, It's now all high quality stainless steel (no plastic). It is much more precise all around. It's now got even better leverage for even faster & easier bending."

The reason you get such great leverage with the QB2 is that it FEELS so solid - certainly not heavy (to me anyway). Like I said, about the weight of a Rolex or fine man's watch - no big deal at all. The quarters bend like butter :)

Posted: Feb 15, 2011 1:34am
Fun Wiki fact:

A quarter is about 90% copper, which has a Melting Point of 1083 degrees C (1356.15 K, 1981.4 degrees F)
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Feb 16, 2011 11:17pm)
The Quantum Bender 2.0 has been out of stock and unavailable for several months now. I just thought I'd mention that I was able to have another batch made, and I now have a few of them available.
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Feb 16, 2011 11:53pm)
In sales this is known as an "urgency" close for those who can appreciate what a great effect QB2 is!

Once you get it the biggest issue is all the people who keep begging you to do it again :)
Message: Posted by: slyhand (Feb 18, 2011 7:53am)
Does this require one or two hands?
Message: Posted by: Rudy Sanchez (Feb 18, 2011 8:05am)
One handed is how I do it.
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Feb 18, 2011 10:43am)
I would guess most (including myself) use 2 hands.
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Feb 18, 2011 4:48pm)
I've been called the incredible hulk, but I use 2 hands as well :P
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Feb 18, 2011 5:46pm)
Quote:

On 2011-02-18 16:48, lunatik wrote:
I've been called the incredible hulk, but I use 2 hands as well :P



You are such a ladies man :)
Message: Posted by: Darren James (Feb 19, 2011 10:34am)
I use two hands as well. Such a reputation maker and a staple effect in my close up show.
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Mar 5, 2011 8:52pm)
I also use two hands, however I do know several people that use just one. There are also a few suggestions about doing it one handed on the QB2 DVD as well.
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Mar 6, 2011 2:39pm)
Quote:

On 2011-03-05 20:52, John T. Sheets wrote:
I also use two hands, however I do know several people that use just one. There are also a few suggestions about doing it one handed on the QB2 DVD as well.



John- how do you or others who use QB2 handle or ALTER the patter for repeats to a thew same group?

As we all know, doing a wedding or other gig with QB2 is sensational but there are constantly those lingering people who want to view it 2 or 3 times. We all know to TRY to never to repeat the same trick twice but in my view QB2 creates or invites multiples - that can't always be avoided.

Obviously the linger(ers) are nearly alway burning your hands,etc. So just wondering how you would suggest altering the patter a bit - and also disguising the bend move for those burning repeat moments?
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Mar 12, 2011 1:06am)
Quote:

On 2011-03-06 14:39, saysold1 wrote:
Quote:

On 2011-03-05 20:52, John T. Sheets wrote:
I also use two hands, however I do know several people that use just one. There are also a few suggestions about doing it one handed on the QB2 DVD as well.



John- how do you or others who use QB2 handle or ALTER the patter for repeats to a thew same group?

As we all know, doing a wedding or other gig with QB2 is sensational but there are constantly those lingering people who want to view it 2 or 3 times. We all know to TRY to never to repeat the same trick twice but in my view QB2 creates or invites multiples - that can't always be avoided.

Obviously the linger(ers) are nearly alway burning your hands,etc. So just wondering how you would suggest altering the patter a bit - and also disguising the bend move for those burning repeat moments?




I try not to repeat it for the same person or group, but as you already know, people always request to see it again and again. When performing a set, this effect is the one that constantly gets the attention. I have found that when I tell people that I cannot repeat it, they will then try to get sneaky. Sometimes they will leave, but then return with someone new, who then requests to see the effect. They will sometimes linger near by, circling kinda like sharks, lol. They try to watch "secretly" from the back of a group or from behind other people, while trying not to be noticed. LOL! I have had people follow me from group to group, staying a little behind me. They show up a few moments after I've already started the set, as I believe they know I'm not going to stop the performance or tell them to go away. Maybe it's because I've already started performing for others. I've even had the occasional bribe to do it again. Oh well, what can you do? I've had people see it 4 and 5 times in a row and still be fooled and amazed.

However, I do suggest that in the event that someone is able to see a repeat performance, that you alter the effect, routine, timing, moment of the "work", psychology, etc.. Many of the ideas are explained on the DVD. Here are just a few that come to mind at this time. I'm sure there are many more that I am forgetting to mention right now. I also don't want to repeat too much of what is on the DVD. One of the biggest pieces of advice I can give is to change the moment that you do the work. Sometimes I do it while I say "this metal CANNOT be bent", creating a dual reality of sorts. They think you are just demonstrating that it can't be done, when in fact you are secretly doing it. You can tell a joke like "have you ever seen the trick where a coin disappears when you tap it with a pen? -Well, I don't do that trick". This is a great moment to do the work, as the audience laughs, lets their guard down etc.. Another good moment is after you ask a direct question, like "Do you know what this coin is made of?" They will always look up at your eyes or at another spectator while answering or asking for the answer. I have also done the work at an unplanned moment, like a quick distraction in the room, a loud noise or someone else entering the group, etc.. I have also done it while walking around someone to better position myself in the group, so that "they may get a better view". Using another prop, or a second coin in the routine could also create a great opportunity.

Something to remember about the QB2, is that after you have done the secret work, it is possible to display the coin as still being flat and straight. There are also a few displays or convincers that you can ad into it as well, like tossing the coin into the air and catching it, as you say something like "watch the coin". They will see the coin traveling up through the air and back down again, and they will quietly convince themselves that they saw a flat coin flying through the air. I never say "look it's flat/straight", but rather simply "look" or "OK, here we go". Tossing it from one hand to another does the same kind of thing. They can't focus their eyes on the tumbling coin, and because you are ahead of them, they have no clue of the actual situation.

Also, don't forget the false take that is explained on the DVD, where you simulate holding the coin in your hand, and carry it away from the QB2, to create less time that the coin and device have apparently spent together. If you own the DVD, you will know what I'm talking about.

I do encourage owners of the QB2 to brainstorm, and to use their own ideas, routines, style, presentation, patter, etc., and to find what fits best for them, their style, and personality. Trial and error is a great thing and can be a valuable learning experience. Of course the more you do it, the more you will discover great things on your own. It is a tool, that when given the proper time, attention, rehearsal, thinking, routining, etc, can be extremely strong and convincing, and therefore can make it a favorite prop in your arsenal, and one of your most requested effects.

I hope this helps.
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Mar 12, 2011 6:58pm)
John- thanks so much for the VERY VERY VERY detailed ideas on how to handle multiple performances of QB2. :) You went far beyond expectations as usual here. I love my QB2 now - I guess it's an addiction of sorts and I may be in need of a 12 step program.

I totally relate to what you mentioned about people hanging out behind the scenes to try to catch more performances... and to catch the method... so true!

I have one more question to put out there for all - Does anyone feel that it is possible to "over-bend" the quarter? I mention this because the degree of bending is consistent but can also vary at times - and I have noticed on rare occasions that the bend is so great that it is a little harder to handle - and those who own this know why. The over-bent quarters do look extra cool after reveal though.

Thoughts?
Message: Posted by: Darren James (Mar 13, 2011 9:12am)
Quote:

On 2011-03-12 18:58, saysold1 wrote:
John- thanks so much for the VERY VERY VERY detailed ideas on how to handle multiple performances of QB2. :) You went far beyond expectations as usual here. I love my QB2 now - I guess it's an addiction of sorts and I may be in need of a 12 step program.

I totally relate to what you mentioned about people hanging out behind the scenes to try to catch more performances... and to catch the method... so true!

I have one more question to put out there for all - Does anyone feel that it is possible to "over-bend" the quarter? I mention this because the degree of bending is consistent but can also vary at times - and I have noticed on rare occasions that the bend is so great that it is a little harder to handle - and those who own this know why. The over-bent quarters do look extra cool after reveal though.


Thoughts?




I agree to some extent. I never put a severe bend in the quarter but make sure there is enough to create the illusion of it bending. When I perform this it is usually close up and have found that putting to much of a bend in it is somewhat harder to conceal but is not impossible. My main worry about putting a bigger bend in the quarter is that it the QB2 seems to put a nice mark/line in the quarter where it bends. Here in Canada, for some reason every quarter I get/borrow tends to be shiny and new. Thus allowing for any bending marks to show. I have never been called out or anything but the thought is always in the back of my mind.
Message: Posted by: Darren James (Mar 13, 2011 9:16am)
I agree to some extent. I never put a severe bend in the quarter but make sure there is enough to create the illusion of it bending. When I perform this it is usually close up and have found that putting to much of a bend in it is somewhat harder to conceal but is not impossible. My main worry about putting a bigger bend in the quarter is that it the QB2 seems to put a nice mark/line in the quarter where it bends. Here in Canada, for some reason every quarter I get/borrow tends to be shiny and new. Thus allowing for any bending marks to show. I have never been called out or anything but the thought is always in the back of my mind.

Daren
Message: Posted by: Benji Bruce (Mar 14, 2011 11:08pm)
Recently two guys asked me to repeat QB and were BURNING my hands. They wouldn't take their eyes off my hands no matter how long I talked. They even recommended that the sharpie stay on the table so I kept it on the table. Here is what I did

I said, "I'm going to do this different. I'll hold the coin up and wave it a little and I want you to say bend in your head." So I wave the coin like the rubber pencil. Then I stopped and said, "Did you see it bend?" They said no and I say, "Well that's because I bent if back." They laughed so I picked up the sharpie and it gave me plenty of time to use the QB.

Whenever I repeat it for a group I'm always focusing on what I can do/say to get them laughing because they will shift their eyes somewhere else.
Message: Posted by: itsmagic (Mar 15, 2011 11:36am)
How did you bend the quarter back? j/k

And how did people not reach for the Sharpie on the table nor notice the ....?
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Mar 15, 2011 12:08pm)
I think Benji said that he never actually *bent* the quarter in this situation... but was doing an optical illusion and made everyone laugh so as to divert and relax - take the heat off.

The writing device on the table was quite innocent I'm sure. Benji is a pro and I really liked this idea - and it was very helpful for me.

Keep in mind that the beauty of QB2 is that the spectator gets to write their initials and handle the device openly - so there is zero heat. For repeats... well that is why I asked earlier how the pros out there handle the extra heat and change up their patter.
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Mar 15, 2011 12:11pm)
Anybody looking for a fantastic barely used QB2 should look here - one of the nicest guys on the Café - and a great price for a near new unit (shameless plug):

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=407452&forum=76&1
Message: Posted by: nonvpro (Mar 15, 2011 2:11pm)
Great price and a great guy.
Message: Posted by: Darren James (Mar 15, 2011 3:13pm)
I have followed up with a spoon bend a few times when being asked to see this again. I find it works like a treat and just adds to the "awness"

Daren
Message: Posted by: Stephen Young (Mar 15, 2011 3:38pm)
Thanks for the kind words guys.
I was just coming here to let folks know they could get a cheap, barely used one.
And you've already done it for me.

Thanks again
Steve
Message: Posted by: Benji Bruce (Mar 15, 2011 10:47pm)
Woops I should have clarified. I did bend the quarter...eventually. When people tell you not to touch something, they are only paying attention to that very moment. So I agreed that I'll leave it on the table but as soon as I made the joke they thought I was finished so I naturally picked up the sharpie, did the move, and then bent the quarter in front of them again.

I've had people burn my hands before but not like those two guys. They wouldn't look up no matter how much I talked. So by making the joke of the coin bending and having it bend back, it gave me plenty of time to do what was needed.
Message: Posted by: Jared (Mar 26, 2011 2:50pm)
I experimented with a different approach last night. After the spectator signs the quarter I take it back and casually show the initials on both sides while remarking that "there's only one coin in the world with this date and your initials." Then I reach into my pocket remove another quarter and hand it to a biggest guy inviting him to try and bend it. "Here...bend this."

During this casual by play you of course do the work. Trust me that there's so much misdirection that you could bend an entire roll of quarters in this amount of time!

-Jared
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Mar 26, 2011 4:17pm)
Quote:

On 2011-03-26 14:50, Jared wrote:
I experimented with a different approach last night. After the spectator signs the quarter I take it back and casually show the initials on both sides while remarking that "there's only one coin in the world with this date and your initials."

* Then I reach into my pocket remove another quarter and hand it to a biggest guy inviting him to try and bend it. "Here...bend this."

* During this casual by play you of course do the work. Trust me that there's so much misdirection that you could bend an entire roll of quarters in this amount of time!




Great! A perfect misdirection. Thank you for sharing your idea.

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: Jared (Mar 26, 2011 7:14pm)
Usstad,
I'm glad that you like the idea. It's nice to have a variety of misdirection techniques at your disposal that you can pick from and choose from depending on the performing conditions. A second benefit of my suggestion is that it strengthens the overall effect because it makes it seem that much more impossible....Here's a big tough guy that can't bend the coin and here you are doing it with your mental abilities :)

-Jared
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Mar 26, 2011 8:06pm)
Love it! Thanks Jared. This would be perfect for those repeat moments when you need another idea available. I might just bend a roll just for fun.

I would like to hear how you or others do the reveal - I do the "waterfall" going down first - thumb puushing over pointer. Then I do a 2nd one to really bend it ... With the specs forefinger out and the bend showing upwards.

Any groovier ideas?
Message: Posted by: juggernought (Apr 2, 2011 7:41pm)
Quote:

On 2011-03-26 20:06, saysold1 wrote:
Love it! Thanks Jared. This would be perfect for those repeat moments when you need another idea available. I might just bend a roll just for fun.

I would like to hear how you or others do the reveal - I do the "waterfall" going down first - thumb puushing over pointer. Then I do a 2nd one to really bend it ... With the specs forefinger out and the bend showing upwards.

Any groovier ideas?



I like the idea too. However, while you have ample opportunity for the bend, I think you need to do the bend as soon as possible and hold the coin clearly at the fingertips and with your hand far away from you. Too much time with the coin out of sight and the attention on someone else might lead people to the right conclusion: that you 'did something' during that time. However, this idea could be very good for some circumstances.

In reply to how to do the reveal, I ALWAYS have the spectator close the coin in his fist and squeeze and talk about the heat of his hand warming the coin up. Through suggestion, you can even get people to believe that they are feeling the coin bending in their hands.

This really is an incredible effect! One of the strongest things I do! Thanks to John for this wonderful device. The more I use it, the more I love it (i have had it for over a year now and use it almost every day!)
Message: Posted by: nonvpro (Apr 2, 2011 8:16pm)
I've said it before and I will say it again. This kicks A--!!! I can't begin to tell you how many people come back to me and bring the "bent quarter thing".
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Apr 3, 2011 12:45am)
This is in my pocket daily.
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Apr 4, 2011 1:57pm)
Nice one Jared. What it provides is a "mirroring" of the strong guy vs the performer. Absolutley justified as both of youse try to bend the quarter B4 the "force" being demonstrated.


After bending tons of coins over the years now, it gets routine for me but Im amazed also at how strong this is. I hear about it months if not years later.

DC
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Apr 4, 2011 9:55pm)
Quote:


After bending tons of coins over the years now, it gets routine for me but Im amazed also at how strong this is. I hear about it months if not years later.

DC



I just hope I never get contacted by the Treasury Department for all that bent $$$ :)
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Apr 28, 2011 1:51am)
Hi Guys,


I just want to address this issue as many people have had concerns while bringing this to my attention. Yes, there is yet another Quantum Bender knock-off making the rounds. Be aware of the knock-offs as they are VERY poorly manufactured and they lack the subtle design elements that make the QB2 so great. I think the design and the mechanics that have been engineered into the QB2 device has been misunderstood by those who are ripping it off. There are many reasons the QB2 was designed specifically the way it was, with it's many important design features built in. I can't tell you how many countless prototypes, and design changes I went through to find out what works best and why. I have invested many countless hours, blood, sweat, and tears into this project. As many of you know the QB2 is the original bender of it's type, and is used world wide by many of the top professionals in the industry.

I have been contacted by a few people that have made the mistake of purchasing a knock off just to save money, and who are now VERY disappointed. Again, you should know there are many misunderstood design flaws in the knock-offs. The biggest thing that sets the QB2 apart from all of the other benders is the Pivoting Joint. Which I created exclusively for the QB2. One of the knock offs has now started using my creation of the Pivoting Joint without my permission. Which again is NOT machined as precise, or as well as the original and has other problematic and overlooked flaws, etc.. If you are considering the purchase of a QB2, I would STRONGLY suggest that you purchase one through a reputable dealer, or myself. I cannot stand behind the knock-offs, and no, I cannot take them in as a trade in towards the real deal.

The QB2 may sound expensive at first glance, yes I know. However, it pays for itself in NO TIME AT ALL with just a gig or two. Also the reputation it generates as well as the many repeat bookings, make it very well worth every penny. It is a prop that will last a lifetime, and is a great tool to have in any serious performers arsenal. It is also supported and endorsed by countless well known names. I won't name drop here though.

Also, I will and do offer unlimited support, direction, and help, etc. to anyone who purchases an original QB2. So feel free to contact me anytime.

In closing I want to say thank you for all of your support and understanding, and for making the right ethical choice in purchasing your bender. Thanks again for standing behind the original, and I do look forward in being a part of your magical endeavors. ;)


Magically,
John
Message: Posted by: nonvpro (Apr 28, 2011 10:35am)
John,

Please charge more for your QB2!
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Apr 28, 2011 11:28am)
John- a few weeks ago I saw the new knock off made by someone in CA I believe.

Utter garbage compared to the genuine article.

At first glance - ya, looks like the real deal.

Look closer and you discover the fake and bake unit is made of the cheapest MILD STEEL (not stainless). This still is very soft compared to your high end stainless.

In addition the critical "pivot joint" was machined at the wrong angles, and not rounded - hence putting all the stress on the cheap steel body rather than on the coin. The unit I saw was already falling apart because of this after a small # of bends. Steel rusts too - stainless doesn't. The joint also was loose and partially mis-alligned.

The copy had two magnets built in as "an improvement" but in reality the insertion of these. In the body further weakened the structure - and magnets stayed in place precisely because the body was made of cheap steel - not expensive stainless.

Having the genuine QB2 in hand and having used it daily since last November I can say that the unit still looks brand new, works 100% like the day I received it, and shows no signs of wear. This thing is bullet proof.

People don't realize that this is a VERY VERY highly engineered tool. There are high end materials used and mathematics and engineering with high tolerances that make the REAL Quantum Bender worth every quarter!

Caveat emptor.
Message: Posted by: idomagic (Apr 30, 2011 2:16am)
Beat coin bender ever. I have never seen a knockoff of anything that was ever as good as the original. Think Meteors and other highend products. If you don't make enough money, or are not committed enough to your hobby, to buy the good props, don't do the trick. Just my two-cents.
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (May 2, 2011 3:30am)
Quote:

On 2011-04-28 10:35, nonvpro wrote:
John,

Please charge more for your QB2!




It's unreal how many people have told me that. I've had many professionals tell me that it should have been a minimum of a grand. I think it may be too late for that now.
Message: Posted by: nonvpro (May 2, 2011 10:18am)
I still think this should cost more. I've had a good number of non-professional magicians over the past 6 months come into the venues where I perform and strike up a conversation with me after my set at their table. Almost everyone of them comment on the "Quarter Bent" and ask me questions about it (fishing). When I explain to them the cost for a QB2, the comment I most often get is that they would buy it except they can't afford it. I've had some of them come back several times into the bar area and ask for me and request the "Quarter Bent" again fishing. Perfect!!!
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (May 2, 2011 2:15pm)
Yes this is the one I saw - garbage. Utter c**p.

The name itself is also blatently stupid as it gives away the method.

The ad brags its the best steel - ya right, but not high end stainless.

Even if it was a PERFECT duplicate (its not even close), this product appears to be an outright copy of a quality product. Time to send a cease and desist perhaps...

The gibberish on this clowns web site mentioning that Sheets would replace a pin is also a low blow.
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (May 2, 2011 9:30pm)
That bender is a knock off of the original QB2. The magnet was my idea in the first place, and I told James Clark about it over 3 years ago as an idea that I had for the QB2 (I also told others about it too, one being Gregory Wilson, over 6 years ago). I decided NOT to add the magnet for several reasons. One being that it would occasionally pinch the skin VERY hard. It also compromises the strength of the device as there is now less material in the vital area of the bender, where it really needs it's strength. After making many prototypes and variations, and with extensive testing, I determined that the QB2 was indeed BETTER WITHOUT the magnet.

The QB2 slot is PRECICLEY made the way it is, to be able to bend a variety of coins on the spot, and not just one specific coin at any given time. Also, the unique design of the QB2 allows you to show the coin still flat after the work has already been done. This is such a cool feature that helps make the QB2 stand out among other benders. This technique is also covered more in detail on the QB2 DVD.

The QB2 was set at it's price point for a reason. It's not only the best, but also to keep it somewhat exclusive. This was meant to be for the professional and the serious amateur. Not every kid that could afford it with his allowance money, only to expose it on YouTube.

About the other benders ad. Yes, he threw me under the bus in the ad. It does have a reference to me and the pin replacement. It's total BS and he knows it. I'm very happy to help anyone, with any problem, any time, and he know that too!

Kinda odd that he came out with this even after he had me sign a "no compete agreement", which he also signed too. Hmmm, How nice.

Stay clear of this guy and the knockoffs. You will be happy you did.

Thanks again for supporting the original and choosing the genuine QB2! ;)
Message: Posted by: Jon_Thompson (May 3, 2011 6:26am)
Why can't people come up with their own effects and products? Why so many "me too!" rip-offs? Is there really so little imagination? Surely the amount of effort this guy has put into ripping off would have made him more money if he created something original.

Confused of Darkest Cheshire.
Message: Posted by: rmendez (May 10, 2011 11:14am)
Received mine last Friday and was extremely impressed by the precision and quality to say the least. I can only imagine how much of a piece of $hit the rip-off could be in comparison. Do yourself a favor. Spend the extra money, support the creator and insist on this first class original. Honestly, there is no rivaling substitute. I watched the video and got the handling and misdirection down after about five or six quarters and absolutely SLAYED with this at a party I went to on Saturday! I will confess that I am a very experienced close-up entertainer but this positively kicks ***! Coupled with my Mini MD, Baby Hornet, Final Answer routined with my chop cup along with a plethora of other age old classics, I am performing what I believe to be the absolute strongest effects possible on this planet!
Message: Posted by: rmendez (May 11, 2011 10:30am)
It not only sickens me but ****es me off to see pathetic vermin steal much less reproduce garbage with inferior quality. I wish there was a way shut this shameless maggot down and ban him from attending any magic conventions. QB2 is worth far more than what I spent because it looks like it will last a lifetime and has provided me with the ability to create yet another emotional and powerful experience for my spectators. Gregory Wilson said it best: "The Quantum Bender makes us maladjusted social misfit magic geeks look like powerful superheroes....cape not included" I've actually had to fight the urge to purchase another one just to keep as a backup because I know that it will just sit there and collect dust :)
Message: Posted by: nonvpro (May 11, 2011 11:01am)
Ditto on purchasing another one. In fact, wish I had a couple more of them.
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (May 16, 2011 4:11pm)
This is a great effect!
Message: Posted by: auriuspd (May 16, 2011 10:53pm)
Why would you sign a "no compete" agreement in the first place? Just curious.
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (May 16, 2011 11:48pm)
Part of another agreement. I shouldn't talk about the rest of it here.
Message: Posted by: Markku (May 17, 2011 2:13am)
QB2 is way too over prized. But its not stupid who ask it's stupid who pay...
Message: Posted by: lunatik (May 17, 2011 10:37am)
If you actually perform, it will pay for itself after 1-2 shows max. For the hobbiest, it's the #1 bender on the market, hands down. Those who complain about the pricing are usually the younger generation? Why is that? Maybe it's having the ability to have almost anything at their fingertips with very little investment, hence not liking to read, DVD only generation. They don't want to pay much money as they know that they're just collecting effects that will be played with for a day or two and then put in a dusty drawer. Just my opinion :)
Message: Posted by: nonvpro (May 17, 2011 10:56am)
Markku,

FYI. I believe priced is spelled like this "priced" and not like this "prized"!
Message: Posted by: rmendez (May 17, 2011 4:09pm)
Quote:

On 2011-05-17 02:13, Markku wrote:
QB2 is way too over prized. But its not stupid who ask it's stupid who pay...



So this product is "way too over prized" merely because you say so? At the risk of having my post removed, have you ever noticed that its usually only the uneducated, unemployed, or broke ***s that make themselves out to be victims that complain about the cost of anything?

Do yourself a favor. Listen to mom and dad. Go to school and get a good education. Find a great career and you too will be able to afford the high end magic apparatus everyone here is raving about. Come to think of it, I think I'll order another one just to keep on hand for backup in case I ever need it.

P.S. Stupid is as stupid does so be cool and stay in school!
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (May 18, 2011 3:15am)
Hello Everyone,

Again, I'd like to say thank you for all of your support and for standing behind the original QB2. To show my appreciation, I would like to offer a very special deal. Anyone who wishes to purchase a genuine QB2, will receive a FREE "Brain Scan Wallet"(regular price is $150.00), through the month of June. This is not a normal deal or sale, so this offer does not appear on my website. This is by special request only, so all you have to do is ask for it when checking out.

The feedback, support, and understanding, that I have been receiving has been overwhelming. Thanks again my friends. ;)
Message: Posted by: Markku (May 18, 2011 10:00am)
Wow! it's easy to get people ****ed off. Seriously, I think I buy one when I begin to perform more frequently. When someone is angry with you it give you a nice and fluffy feeling.
Message: Posted by: rmendez (May 18, 2011 10:09am)
No one is angry at you Mark :) This product was made by a professional for professionals is all that we meant. The high price keeps it exclusive and out of the hands of the curious and the amateurs that might perhaps expose it on YouTube just to impress their friends.
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (May 18, 2011 10:28pm)
Hello Everyone,

I had a typo in my last post. It should have read:

Again, I'd like to say thank you for all of your support and for standing behind the original QB2. To show my appreciation, I would like to offer a very special deal. Anyone who wishes to purchase a genuine QB2 (through me), will receive a FREE "Brain Scan Wallet"(regular price is $150.00), through the month of June. This is not a normal deal or sale, so this offer does not appear on my website. This is by special request only, so all you have to do is ask for it when checking out.

The feedback, support, and understanding, that I have been receiving has been awesome. Thanks again my friends.
Message: Posted by: nonvpro (May 18, 2011 11:32pm)
As rmendez stated in his post, we are not mad at you Markku. Please understand this was created by a top notch professional for professionals. As a professional myself, I'm more than happy with the price I paid for my QB2. I believe this was one of the best, if not the best investment I've made in my magic career. The last thing I want is an amatuer or hobbyist exposing this on YouTube or coming up to me and explaining to me how it's done.

If I'm in a position that I can only perform one effect, my QB2 is it. I have used it both as an opener and a closer. Packs small, but plays really big. I'm always concerned with pocket management. No pocket management problems with my QB2.

Everyone do yourselves and the magic community in general a big favor, support the creator of the QB and purchase the original from John Sheets. I might add that I have no relationship with or have ever met John Sheets.
Message: Posted by: rmendez (May 19, 2011 11:08am)
Allow me to be perfectly frank. Anything else on the market is a coiling turd and isn't even in the same league so they need to quit kidding themselves. Quantum Bender 2.0 is it. There is no substitute. Nothing comes remotely close. End of story. Those who can't or won't afford it - jealously hate on it. Those who resent the fact that they didn't invent it - pathetically try to dupe and fake it. I am in no way affiliated with John Sheets. This is a completely unbiased opinion. I'm just a professional close-up magician out in the trenches having a *** good time with quality apparatus that will apparently last forever. Eighteen pages of ranting raves and positive reviews couldn't possibly be wrong.
Message: Posted by: rmendez (May 20, 2011 1:15pm)
Can someone PM me with the brands of touch up materials John recommends on his DVD and where it can be found? Thanks.
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (May 20, 2011 2:27pm)
OK - Think I have it. Keep in mind that the touch up is not 100% but perhaps 98% close...

I keep mine in a nice leather case I ordered on Amazon - both fit inside and it protects really well from chipping.

HIGHLY recommend this case for anyone who owns the QB2 - its ideal and very soft leather but durable and takes up no extra space:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009WMIPY

Keep in mind that the genuine QB2 is POWDER COATED, not cheaply painted like the JLC copycat. Even then you will get minor chips however.
Message: Posted by: rmendez (May 20, 2011 2:54pm)
I ordered and just received this one last night




http://www.amazon.com/Livescribe-AAA-00015-Deluxe-Carrying-Case/dp/B003TO56EY/ref=pd_sbs_a_2

which also works very well but I think I like yours better!
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (May 21, 2011 2:34am)
You may want to check these out:

http://www.coloradopen.com/category/libelle-new-york-pen-cases?r=GG442&s=GG442&gclid=CN-dpJK3-KgCFcO8KgodnVnGVQ


http://www.lanierpens.com/pen_pouches_s/68.htm?gclid=CKSJ-62k2aQCFYIKKgodZwgAKA
Message: Posted by: carlwag (May 21, 2011 7:33am)
Which coins are you UK guys using with this?
Message: Posted by: carlwag (May 22, 2011 12:02am)
After testing 1p 5p 20p and 10p all work as do 2p and 50p but the latter don't fit all the way in.
10p will prob be what I bend the most.

Carl.
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (May 27, 2011 8:49pm)
Quote:

On 2011-05-18 22:28, John T. Sheets wrote:
Hello Everyone,

I had a typo in my last post. It should have read:

Again, I'd like to say thank you for all of your support and for standing behind the original QB2. To show my appreciation, I would like to offer a very special deal. Anyone who wishes to purchase a genuine QB2 (through me), will receive a FREE "Brain Scan Wallet"(regular price is $150.00), through the month of June. This is not a normal deal or sale, so this offer does not appear on my website. This is by special request only, so all you have to do is ask for it when checking out.

The feedback, support, and understanding, that I have been receiving has been awesome. Thanks again my friends.



I will ship out of the USA on this deal too.
Message: Posted by: David Klass (May 30, 2011 4:42am)
John, your website states that you don't ship out of the USA.
Does the above post mean that you will?
Message: Posted by: lunatik (May 30, 2011 11:22am)
Yes david, it does
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Jun 1, 2011 12:28am)
Hi David,

Yes. I will ship out of the USA on this deal. Shipping is FREE in the USA. However I'm asking those out of the USA to pitch in an extra $10 or $15 to help towards the shipping.

My Paypal is: john@johntsheets.com

Thanks.
Message: Posted by: rmendez (Jun 9, 2011 12:07pm)
This is one of the strongest if not the strongest effects possible! I was out bar hopping with my girlfriend, some magicians and film producer friends with cams in tote last Friday which was an absolute blast! We visited six different venues where borrowed quarters got signed and bent right under their noses and apparently melted while pushed through my fingers before the eyes of my spectators!

I've bent countless quarters over the last month and my QB2 still prestine and d@mn near new like the day I received it and will undoubtedly last a lifetime! I'm about 3/4 as fast as John at this point and am absolutely positively killing with this! My only regret is that I didn't treat myself to this first class original sooner! Worth every penny and has already paid for itself in repeat performance gigs!
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Jun 9, 2011 3:06pm)
Quote:

On 2011-06-09 12:07, rmendez wrote:
This is one of the strongest if not the strongest effects possible! I was out bar hopping with my girlfriend, some magicians and film producer friends with cams in tote last Friday which was an absolute blast! We visited six different venues where borrowed quarters got signed and bent right under their noses and apparently melted while pushed through my fingers before the eyes of my spectators!

I've bent countless quarters over the last month and my QB2 still prestine and d@mn near new like the day I received it and will undoubtedly last a lifetime! I'm about 3/4 as fast as John at this point and am absolutely positively killing with this! My only regret is that I didn't treat myself to this first class original sooner! Worth every penny and has already paid for itself in repeat performance gigs!



Agree 100% -

I did QB2 at my regular Poker game last night twice - and one of the guys was so amazed & frustrated that he grabbed his phone to try to Google the method.

Support the original Creator of QB2... Jon Sheets... and you will own a mind blowing effect that should last a lifetime.
Message: Posted by: NexusMagicShop (Jun 11, 2011 4:49pm)
Quantum Bender 2.0 is still by far he best coin bending application ever. Don't be fooled by anything less this will be a lifelong tool in your arsenal.
Message: Posted by: MJ Marrs (Jun 11, 2011 8:10pm)
Quote:

On 2011-06-09 15:06, saysold1 wrote:
Quote:

On 2011-06-09 12:07, rmendez wrote:
This is one of the strongest if not the strongest effects possible! I was out bar hopping with my girlfriend, some magicians and film producer friends with cams in tote last Friday which was an absolute blast! We visited six different venues where borrowed quarters got signed and bent right under their noses and apparently melted while pushed through my fingers before the eyes of my spectators!

I've bent countless quarters over the last month and my QB2 still prestine and d@mn near new like the day I received it and will undoubtedly last a lifetime! I'm about 3/4 as fast as John at this point and am absolutely positively killing with this! My only regret is that I didn't treat myself to this first class original sooner! Worth every penny and has already paid for itself in repeat performance gigs!



Agree 100% -

I did QB2 at my regular Poker game last night twice - and one of the guys was so amazed & frustrated that he grabbed his phone to try to Google the method.

Support the original Creator of QB2... Jon Sheets... and you will own a mind blowing effect that should last a lifetime.



Out of curiosity, how long did it take him to Google the method?

Unfortunately, over the past several years I've had individuals, mostly of the younger generation (e.g. university students), who have been able to search online for the methods to some of the effects I've performed. I had one guy who leared the penetrating rubber bands trick (i.e. CMHC's) during a function that I was working; he then showed me if front of all his friends that he could do the same thing I had just been performing. Apparently there's a free online tutorial being offered to teach CMHC's.

Just for fun I did a Google search with several key words such as "magician/bend a quarter" and was able to find reference to various sources which will show anybody with an internet connection and a few seconds to spare the modus operandi to QB 2.0. I think that the lack of respect that we as magicians are showing the secrets of this wonderful art is a bit disconcerting to say the least. It's a shame because I rank QB 2.0 as of one of the all-time great close up tricks. I recall when I first considered purchasing QB 2.0 that I had no idea what apparatus, if any, was being employed to bring about such an effect. However, before I even got around to ordering I was able (unfortunately) to read online exactly which object was being used.

Best,
MJ
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Jun 12, 2011 12:29am)
Quote:

On 2011-06-11 20:10, MJ Marrs wrote:
Quote:

On 2011-06-09 15:06, saysold1 wrote:
Quote:

On 2011-06-09 12:07, rmendez wrote:
This is one of the strongest if not the strongest effects possible! I was out bar hopping with my girlfriend, some magicians and film producer friends with cams in tote last Friday which was an absolute blast! We visited six different venues where borrowed quarters got signed and bent right under their noses and apparently melted while pushed through my fingers before the eyes of my spectators!

I've bent countless quarters over the last month and my QB2 still prestine and d@mn near new like the day I received it and will undoubtedly last a lifetime! I'm about 3/4 as fast as John at this point and am absolutely positively killing with this! My only regret is that I didn't treat myself to this first class original sooner! Worth every penny and has already paid for itself in repeat performance gigs!



Agree 100% -

I did QB2 at my regular Poker game last night twice - and one of the guys was so amazed & frustrated that he grabbed his phone to try to Google the method.

Support the original Creator of QB2... Jon Sheets... and you will own a mind blowing effect that should last a lifetime.



Out of curiosity, how long did it take him to Google the method?

Unfortunately, over the past several years I've had individuals, mostly of the younger generation (e.g. university students), who have been able to search online for the methods to some of the effects I've performed. I had one guy who leared the penetrating rubber bands trick (i.e. CMHC's) during a function that I was working; he then showed me if front of all his friends that he could do the same thing I had just been performing. Apparently there's a free online tutorial being offered to teach CMHC's.

Just for fun I did a Google search with several key words such as "magician/bend a quarter" and was able to find reference to various sources which will show anybody with an internet connection and a few seconds to spare the modus operandi to QB 2.0. I think that the lack of respect that we as magicians are showing the secrets of this wonderful art is a bit disconcerting to say the least. It's a shame because I rank QB 2.0 as of one of the all-time great close up tricks. I recall when I first considered purchasing QB 2.0 that I had no idea what apparatus, if any, was being employed to bring about such an effect. However, before I even got around to ordering I was able (unfortunately) to read online exactly which object was being used.

Best,
MJ



You know what MJ, I'm not going to worry about it too much.

I agree it is a shame that secrets and exposures occur. To me the new copycat bender from James L turkey is actually NAMED by the very method used in the effect. To me that is just plain stupidity, but then again this clown is shamelessly copying the QB2 so I guess he doesn't care about exposure obviously.

Phones and Google do make it easy for people to look things up or discover secrets - there is nothing that can be done to change that really. To most people viewing the effect, whether at a function or a bar ... in their mind they have just witnessed a near miracle. The majority of people WON'T look up the method. But (just like hecklers) there is always those people who are intent on not being fooled or learning the possible secrets.

ID has been around a long time, but nearly everyone I have met still sees it as a miracle.

In 20 years, I predict QB2 will still be the "classic" that it is destined to be.

BTW, as far as I know he was not able to figure out the method - at least while at the party. If he did find it, he didn't discuss it. Even if he did, there are multiple methods or achieving the same result.
Message: Posted by: 123crampt (Jun 12, 2011 4:36am)
I agree completely, why do you guys think the Sevengali (correct spelling?) deck is known compared to Invisible? Or why are there more Sevengali Decks being sold? Surely the Magic shops don't believe it to be a better trick? How much do you think it would cost every Magician who had the same opinion of Magic being exposed on the web to make Google not show any results for searches with 'revealed' in them. Maybe $1? LOL
Message: Posted by: MJ Marrs (Jun 12, 2011 7:38pm)
Quote:

On 2011-06-12 04:36, 123crampt wrote:
I agree completely, why do you guys think the Sevengali (correct spelling?) deck is known compared to Invisible? Or why are there more Sevengali Decks being sold? Surely the Magic shops don't believe it to be a better trick? How much do you think it would cost every Magician who had the same opinion of Magic being exposed on the web to make Google not show any results for searches with 'revealed' in them. Maybe $1? LOL



It's not a matter of Google or other search engines not "revealing" how tricks are done; that would be censorship and it would be ridiculous. Magicians should do a better job policing themselves, however; afterall, as Eugene Burger begins his wonderful book "Mastering the Art of Magic," magic is built upon secrets.

Unfortunately, we as a collective fraternity cry foul whenever somebody tries to do such a thing. For instance, I thought it was a great idea for Bob Kohler, years ago, to experiment with keeping one of magic's great pieces of apparatus (holdout) somewhat exclusive by using a lease agreement. Likewise, Jermemy Weiss' recent attempt to sell his ACAAN as a relatively expensive and limited edition product was a great idea, IMHO. However, both gentlemen were publically criticized for their efforts. I don't get it.

The silver lining in all this, I suppose, is that when all is said and done it doesn't really matter too much for performers whether the public can instantly Google magical secrets; since entertainment is paramount, and therefore the total magical experience we create is more important than the indvidual tricks we perform, it all comes out in the wash. The public's diminished ability to suspend disbelief won't make or break a seasoned professional's ability to provide high quality magical entertainment. Although, I sure wouldn't want to be a creator of magical products in today's world of rampant exposure and blatant piracy.

Respectfully,
MJ
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Jun 16, 2011 10:54am)
I'm in Norway now and I've been experimenting with various coins. So far the 10 Kroner is closest to the quarter (diameter good, a tad thicker)BUT at a value of like $2.00 it probably is the wrong coin to use regularly.

The 1 Kroner resembles a nickel with a little hole in it but it bends nicely and fits ok... And the value is more reasonable as I feel guilty bending 10 Kroner coins.

Any Norwegian's using QB2...thoughts?
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Jun 17, 2011 1:49am)
Being here in Norway I just discovered a nice subtlety that I would like to share...

Norwegian coinage is thicker and less smooth on the surfaces then the American quarter. The problem is that when revealing the bend, the Norsk coins "hesitate" and stall when doing the waterfall reveal over the top of the forefinger.

Answer? Moistening the fingers slightly (like using your ID) allows the coin to slide and glide over the top of the finger... allowing the thumb to precisely and more convincingly reveal the slow bend.

You don't want much moisture obviously as it may rub some Sharpie ink off so... A dab wll do you as Jack Nicholson would say!

Try it - I will actually start doing this when I return to the USA as the moister fingers create a visually more magical moment.
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Jun 18, 2011 1:18am)
Quote:

On 2011-06-11 20:10, MJ Marrs wrote:
Quote:

On 2011-06-09 15:06, saysold1 wrote:
Quote:

On 2011-06-09 12:07, rmendez wrote:
This is one of the strongest if not the strongest effects possible! I was out bar hopping with my girlfriend, some magicians and film producer friends with cams in tote last Friday which was an absolute blast! We visited six different venues where borrowed quarters got signed and bent right under their noses and apparently melted while pushed through my fingers before the eyes of my spectators!

I've bent countless quarters over the last month and my QB2 still prestine and d@mn near new like the day I received it and will undoubtedly last a lifetime! I'm about 3/4 as fast as John at this point and am absolutely positively killing with this! My only regret is that I didn't treat myself to this first class original sooner! Worth every penny and has already paid for itself in repeat performance gigs!



Agree 100% -

I did QB2 at my regular Poker game last night twice - and one of the guys was so amazed & frustrated that he grabbed his phone to try to Google the method.

Support the original Creator of QB2... Jon Sheets... and you will own a mind blowing effect that should last a lifetime.



Out of curiosity, how long did it take him to Google the method?

Unfortunately, over the past several years I've had individuals, mostly of the younger generation (e.g. university students), who have been able to search online for the methods to some of the effects I've performed. I had one guy who leared the penetrating rubber bands trick (i.e. CMHC's) during a function that I was working; he then showed me if front of all his friends that he could do the same thing I had just been performing. Apparently there's a free online tutorial being offered to teach CMHC's.

Just for fun I did a Google search with several key words such as "magician/bend a quarter" and was able to find reference to various sources which will show anybody with an internet connection and a few seconds to spare the modus operandi to QB 2.0. I think that the lack of respect that we as magicians are showing the secrets of this wonderful art is a bit disconcerting to say the least. It's a shame because I rank QB 2.0 as of one of the all-time great close up tricks. I recall when I first considered purchasing QB 2.0 that I had no idea what apparatus, if any, was being employed to bring about such an effect. However, before I even got around to ordering I was able (unfortunately) to read online exactly which object was being used.

Best,
MJ



this will solve all of your problems, at least temporarily :) possibly one of these could also be used as an eerie effect?

http://www.phonejammer.com/home.php?cat=249
Message: Posted by: Bondy (Jun 23, 2011 10:59pm)
I have the QB2 and I love it. But it is NOT!!! Worth $500 it is a ridiculous price. I'll post a full review soon.
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Jun 23, 2011 11:43pm)
Quote:

On 2011-06-23 22:59, Bondy wrote:
I have the QB2 and I love it. But it is NOT!!! Worth $500 it is a ridiculous price. I'll post a full review soon.



beauty is in the eye of the beholder. some need contacts :P looking forward to your review!!
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Jun 24, 2011 2:23pm)
There are 18 pages of reviews here already. But like Lunatik I can't wait (yawn) to read your "new" insights.

The QB2 is an original product, beautifully crafted, expertly engineered - widely accepted as the best bender on the market by pros.

Yes we know there are copycats of the QB2 - unoriginal, blatent rip offs, made using inferior materials that may achieve a similar result for less money.

Many buy cheaper Gucci and Rolex rip offs on the streets of New York. Are they the same? Are you kidding lol?
Message: Posted by: ~Cicero (Jun 24, 2011 2:55pm)
I wish it was priced higher...
Message: Posted by: nonvpro (Jun 24, 2011 4:51pm)
Totaly agree with Cicero. I know for a fact I got 5 corporate gigs, which I might add pay very well, because of my QB2. Just one of them more that paid triple what I paid for my QB2.
Message: Posted by: Bondy (Jul 8, 2011 3:05am)
The trick is great but guys think about it, it's a steel sh*****. This is not a $500 piece of equipment; for what you get it is grossly overpriced! I'm not alone when I say how ridiculous the price is.
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Jul 8, 2011 4:51am)
Quote:

On 2011-07-08 03:05, Bondy wrote:
The trick is great but guys think about it, it's a steel sh*****. This is not a $500 piece of equipment; for what you get it is grossly overpriced! I'm not alone when I say how ridiculous the price is.



So what is the pint of your post Bondy?

There are 18 pages here of raves with a ton of info. Magic consumers can make their own minds up don't ya think?

Is a pair of new Raybans worth $200 based on the materials? Is a $250 pair of jeans worth it? Duh?
What is your point? If you can't afford the real QB2 then don't buy it or go buy a cheap **s knock off from JLC and see how that works for you.

I'm tired of the constant whining. With magic you are buying a method/secret and the prop. The quality of this prop is exceptional. There was also countless hours of design involved no doubt.

If people want to buy a cheap Gucci or Rolex knock off on the streets of New York - then I say go buy it and see how that works for you.

Me? I would rather support the original creator.
Message: Posted by: Christopher Williams (Jul 8, 2011 7:51am)
The only thing that has put me off this (although they say it can just be 'patched up', so I hear) is that everyone I have seen selling one second hand has said something like 'Paint has come off' or such like comment...is this a regular occurence?
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Jul 8, 2011 8:10am)
John could answer better but the QB2 is powder coated, not just spray painted.

If you carry it around in you pockets with keys and coins - yes it will get nicked up and scratched. My friend Luke in Phoenix (a working pro) has a QB1 that is totally beat. But he still uses it daily as most of the gimmick is never seen.

I keep mine in a soft leather case at all times - hence it looks nearly perfect even after nearly one year's daily use.

Sheets gives you paint recommendations for touch ups as needed.
Message: Posted by: billfromoregon (Jul 8, 2011 3:14pm)
The paint can chip off, as with anything painted. It depends on how you carry it. I carry mine in my breast coat pocket (along with a couple of normal sharpies), so after a year or so it looks basically good as new. If you take care of it, it will hold up incredibly well, but if you have it banging around somewhere, then expect it to get beat up, just as any other painted item would. If you suspect you will be putting it through a bit of abuse, you could always spray lacquer the unit, giving it a bit of extra protection, but I prefer to treat it a bit tenderly, as I do prefer my props to look good (whether the audience sees them or not). Great tool, and worth the money if you are a working pro.

Bill
Message: Posted by: Steven Conner (Jul 8, 2011 9:30pm)
Quote:

On 2011-07-08 04:51, saysold1 wrote:
Quote:

On 2011-07-08 03:05, Bondy wrote:
The trick is great but guys think about it, it's a steel sh*****. This is not a $500 piece of equipment; for what you get it is grossly overpriced! I'm not alone when I say how ridiculous the price is.



So what is the pint of your post Bondy?

There are 18 pages here of raves with a ton of info. Magic consumers can make their own minds up don't ya think?

Is a pair of new Raybans worth $200 based on the materials? Is a $250 pair of jeans worth it? Duh?
What is your point? If you can't afford the real QB2 then don't buy it or go buy a cheap **s knock off from JLC and see how that works for you.

I'm tired of the constant whining. With magic you are buying a method/secret and the prop. The quality of this prop is exceptional. There was also countless hours of design involved no doubt.

If people want to buy a cheap Gucci or Rolex knock off on the streets of New York - then I say go buy it and see how that works for you.

Me? I would rather support the original creator.



I have to agree 100% with saysold. If you want the quality stuff, save your money, or move on. There are a lot of illusions out there that I can't afford but would love to have. I still have never griped about it. If you bought it, sell it. If you haven't, quite b****ing about it.
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Jul 9, 2011 7:22am)
Quote:

On 2011-06-23 22:59, Bondy wrote:
I have the QB2 and I love it. But it is NOT!!! Worth $500 it is a ridiculous price. I'll post a full review soon.



So where is your review that you said you would post soon?

Maybe your review can provide some clarity into your views - hopefully without needless exposures.
Message: Posted by: toph (Jul 12, 2011 3:38pm)
I would like to chime in regards to the whole "paint issue". It really is not a big deal, I recently completely refinished my unit top to bottom just for kicks with the recommended materials john mentions in the dvd. It seriously was quite fun and informative to see how precisely machined the unit is after completely stripping it.

I even decided to custom "tune" the device as I was refinishing it so that there is absolutely no break in time what-so-ever after with the action. (those who have a QB2 know why break-in is required with a new FRESH device). The action is silky smooth, right from the get go, and it looks EXACTLY like a SHARPIE (I made my own replica decals of the logos and print of a Sharpie, so no need to ask John for his).

The unit will truly last a lifetime as it is so brilliantly machined, there is nothing to ever break with normal use.

Here is what my QB2 looks like..it is after all a regular Sharpie right? =P
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Jul 12, 2011 7:01pm)
Toph, you did an excellent job on re-painting your QB2.


To those who may not know; If you get any scratches or chips on your QB2, it really is NOT a big deal. The paint can be "touched up" VERY easily, which is discussed on the QB2 DVD.

As many of you probably already know, the paint does NOT have to be anywhere near perfect to perform with the device.
My personal QB2 is pretty chipped up, and could probably use some touch up paint by now. However, I still perform with it all the time, and nobody notices the flaws. I have also met other performers that have performed with the QB2 for many years, and don't care about how beat up their QB2 gets. I'm sometimes amazed at how chipped up they allow their QB2s to get before doing any touch up paint, if any at all. They too tell me that flaws in the paint do NOT effect the device or their performances with it.

Also, if you carry the QB2 in a pocket with NO metal objects like keys or coins, the paint will last ALLOT longer. I carry mine with plastic objects, like a Sharpie, but no metal.

Again, if you desire, it is really EASY to do touch up paint on the device, which is covered on the QB2 DVD.

I hope this helps.

Also, I love to hear all the great feedback that I get through PMs and email. So thanks again everyone for letting me know about your experiences with the QB2. ;)
Message: Posted by: billfromoregon (Jul 13, 2011 1:24am)
Lost my back-up yesterday - BUMMER! Seems to have fallen out of my pocket on my way to a casual gig. At least I still have one, so I can still perform it, but I guess I will have to be more careful from now on. The drag is that somebody is going to find it and have no idea what it is, and eventually just toss it. Oh, well...
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Jul 13, 2011 9:02am)
I never carry mine in my back pocket unless I'm ready to perform. way too easy for it to fall out!
Message: Posted by: Steven Conner (Jul 14, 2011 9:11am)
Quote:

On 2011-07-09 07:22, saysold1 wrote:
Quote:

On 2011-06-23 22:59, Bondy wrote:
I have the QB2 and I love it. But it is NOT!!! Worth $500 it is a ridiculous price. I'll post a full review soon.



So where is your review that you said you would post soon?

Maybe your review can provide some clarity into your views - hopefully without needless exposures.



Review???
Message: Posted by: Bondy (Jul 14, 2011 10:47pm)
Sorry guys I've been busy I'll have a review soon :)
Message: Posted by: chappelly (Jul 15, 2011 12:34am)
Quote:

On 2011-06-24 16:51, nonvpro wrote:
Totaly agree with Cicero. I know for a fact I got 5 corporate gigs, which I might add pay very well, because of my QB2. Just one of them more that paid triple what I paid for my QB2.



Wow this is excellent. So without QB2 you wouldn't have got these high paying gigs?
Message: Posted by: nonvpro (Jul 15, 2011 11:33am)
Chappelly,

Can not say as an absolute I got the jobs because of QB2. However, I keep a log on all my received phone calls, especially when they pertain to future gigs. I alway ask where they saw me perform or how they heard about me. If they've seen me perform, I ask what stood out about my magic and if they heard about me, what was it they heard? The common denominatior has been "bending of the quarter".

I believe all the magic I perform is very good and entertaining. However, I don't leave my bottle or the coin or cap that goes into the bottle, or a piece of rope from my rope routine, or coins from coins across, etc. I do however, leave a bent quarter which I believe becomes a very big topic of conversation in the future.

Yes, it's an assumption on my part that my QB2 got me the gigs, but based on my conversations with my clients, I believe it's a very good assumption.
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Jul 15, 2011 3:50pm)
I just bought lunch today at a restaurant and one of the gals that worked there asked me if I was the guy that bent the quarter for one of the wait staff - 3-4 months ago...

Another lady last month said she planned to drill a hole in it and wear it as jewelry :)

Many people I meet say that they plan to keep the bent quarter with them at all times as good luck.

You just don't get that kind of emphatic passion with too many effects. Thanks again to John Sheets - this is a masterpiece of the highest calibre.
Message: Posted by: nonvpro (Jul 15, 2011 3:52pm)
Saysold1,

Exactly!!!
Message: Posted by: chappelly (Jul 15, 2011 8:40pm)
Yes the strength of the bent coin effect is undeniable.

And it is a fantastic keepsake( cheaper than the cost of a playing card for me) and very memorable.

I don't use QB2. I use CV1(1 coin bend without all of the coins)and a different routine.

The reactions are always very good to over the top, and I do come across people who remind me that they still have the bent coin.

Nonvpro,I see what you mean about QB2 being a selling point for your gigs. Word gets round about a magician who does a crazy thing with a coin and this leads to the gig. Best with your magic.

Chappelly
Message: Posted by: ~Cicero (Jul 19, 2011 3:51pm)
A little story, I messed up with my QB 2 the other day (I know, how does one screw up something so easy?). I dunno what happened, but I just got the smallest "ripple" in the quarter. You had to look close to see that there was any bend at all. I played it up though...I said "look close, you put just a little bend in there, you see that? blah blah blah"...I think it went over better than any other of the hundreds of times I've done QB 2. There is a lesson in there somewhere, not sure what it is, but it is something...
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Jul 19, 2011 4:13pm)
Quote:

On 2011-07-19 15:51, ~Cicero wrote:
A little story, I messed up with my QB 2 the other day (I know, how does one screw up something so easy?). I dunno what happened, but I just got the smallest "ripple" in the quarter. You had to look close to see that there was any bend at all. I played it up though...I said "look close, you put just a little bend in there, you see that? blah blah blah"...I think it went over better than any other of the hundreds of times I've done QB 2. There is a lesson in there somewhere, not sure what it is, but it is something...




Sometimes less is more. ;)
Message: Posted by: rmendez (Jul 22, 2011 4:10pm)
I performed this instant reputation maker yet again last night at a bar/grill while hanging out and sessioning with some magician friends of mine. This time for some gorgeous Miller Lite girls in bikinis doing a beer promotional. I performed it completely surrounded by goddesses begging to be picked by me to volunteer. The girls and the performance gained the captive attention of nearly the entire venue. Needless to say, it completely fried them all which was followed by an endless string of "Oh my God!'s" and "WTF!'s" Next thing I know, they are taking turns hopping in our laps for photographs being taken! I am to the point where I actually feel guilty because there is no challenge in this anymore. It is simply far too easy and like taking candy from a baby. I've since learned some discipline and how to pace myself and perform some of the other effects in my repertoire first. No point going straight for the jugular unless there is something at stake and that is my intention. One of the best, if not THE best money ever spent!
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Jul 22, 2011 9:08pm)
Richard-

This sounds like a religious experience of the highest order!

Frankly, I may need to start to changing my favored brand of beer from Corona to Miller Lite :)
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Jul 31, 2011 4:51pm)
A comment for those that use QB2 -

I generally feel so comfortable doing this that I don't even worry about impromptu performances with no preparation - in other words no g*****k in my back pocket at the ready.

I was just at a store I go to and the gal who works there begged me to show the "quarter trick" to the owner who I had never met. With not a worry I asked them to go find a quarter, I took what I needed from my front pockets... set up right in front of them... and proceeded to do the effect.

I have done this same thing many times, and I guess I am so comfortable with my QB2 now that it is like driving a favorite sports car.

That is the great part of QB2 to me is that there is no set up needed ever - you are always ready.
Message: Posted by: nonvpro (Aug 1, 2011 12:26am)
Perfect!!!
Message: Posted by: toph (Aug 3, 2011 2:31pm)
Quote:

On 2011-07-31 16:51, saysold1 wrote:
A comment for those that use QB2 -

I generally feel so comfortable doing this that I don't even worry about impromptu performances with no preparation - in other words no g*****k in my back pocket at the ready.

I was just at a store I go to and the gal who works there begged me to show the "quarter trick" to the owner who I had never met. With not a worry I asked them to go find a quarter, I took what I needed from my front pockets... set up right in front of them... and proceeded to do the effect.

I have done this same thing many times, and I guess I am so comfortable with my QB2 now that it is like driving a favorite sports car.

That is the great part of QB2 to me is that there is no set up needed ever - you are always ready.



Im a bit confused. When you say set up, you mean you simply pulled out QB2 and performed without having him sign the quarter? If that indeed was the case, I assume you used the "Have you seen the magician tap the quarter with the pen and it disappears trick? Well, I'm not gonna do that". Then again, signing the coin solidifies the fact that their coin cannot be switched (Even though the coin is clearly always in sight and there are absolutely no funny moves) no matter how good and fair it looks. Seems like a great twist on performing QB nonetheless!
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Aug 3, 2011 4:26pm)
Quote:

On 2011-08-03 14:31, toph wrote:
Quote:

On 2011-07-31 16:51, saysold1 wrote:
A comment for those that use QB2 -

I generally feel so comfortable doing this that I don't even worry about impromptu performances with no preparation - in other words no g*****k in my back pocket at the ready.

I was just at a store I go to and the gal who works there begged me to show the "quarter trick" to the owner who I had never met. With not a worry I asked them to go find a quarter, I took what I needed from my front pockets... set up right in front of them... and proceeded to do the effect.

I have done this same thing many times, and I guess I am so comfortable with my QB2 now that it is like driving a favorite sports car.

That is the great part of QB2 to me is that there is no set up needed ever - you are always ready.



Im a bit confused. When you say set up, you mean you simply pulled out QB2 and performed without having him sign the quarter? If that indeed was the case, I assume you used the "Have you seen the magician tap the quarter with the pen and it disappears trick? Well, I'm not gonna do that". Then again, signing the coin solidifies the fact that their coin cannot be switched (Even though the coin is clearly always in sight and there are absolutely no funny moves) no matter how good and fair it looks. Seems like a great twist on performing QB nonetheless!



No I don't use any of the "have you seen the Magician tap the quarter" patter - I don't use that wording myself.

What I'm saying is that in a pinch I always have my QB2 props in the front pocket. If someone asks to see a demo I simply then ask if "anyone has a quarter? A state quarter is even better!"

While they look I set up the QB2 in back, the reg in front and all ion front of them - calmly with a smile.

I then aask them to sign initials - smiley face on back of coin (sometimes by a 2nd spectator)and all the rest.
Message: Posted by: Brian Arkell (Aug 3, 2011 7:58pm)
I have personally witnessed John performing his Quantum Bender 2.0 hundreds of times! I remember when he took me backstage after a show and he said Hey man let me show you something really cool! This was the very first Quantum Bender and I was floored at such a GREAT effect and idea and overall method! WOW! John is a GREAT guy and knows how to make unique original material! He has helped me in so many ways and for that I am very Thankful to be able to know him and call him a good friend! Believe in the Quantum Bender and Believe in John T. Sheets!


Brian


Brian Arkell
Arkell Magic
www.arkellmagic.com
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Aug 5, 2011 10:27am)
Quote:

On 2011-07-12 19:01, John T. Sheets wrote:
Toph, you did an excellent job on re-painting your QB2.


To those who may not know; If you get any scratches or chips on your QB2, it really is NOT a big deal. The paint can be "touched up" VERY easily, which is discussed on the QB2 DVD.

As many of you probably already know, the paint does NOT have to be anywhere near perfect to perform with the device.
My personal QB2 is pretty chipped up, and could probably use some touch up paint by now. However, I still perform with it all the time, and nobody notices the flaws. I have also met other performers that have performed with the QB2 for many years, and don't care about how beat up their QB2 gets. I'm sometimes amazed at how chipped up they allow their QB2s to get before doing any touch up paint, if any at all. They too tell me that flaws in the paint do NOT effect the device or their performances with it.

Also, if you carry the QB2 in a pocket with NO metal objects like keys or coins, the paint will last ALLOT longer. I carry mine with plastic objects, like a Sharpie, but no metal.

Again, if you desire, it is really EASY to do touch up paint on the device, which is covered on the QB2 DVD.

I hope this helps.

Also, I love to hear all the great feedback that I get through PMs and email. So thanks again everyone for letting me know about your experiences with the QB2. ;)



Absolutely agree. I searched everywhere and finally found a can of paint I never used worrying about it years ago. This is one prop I never sold. Scratches are really a non-issue. There is only ONE negative I have found with QB and its not even releated to the prop. Its just becoming harder to find people carrying coins any more in this cashless society we live in. Easily solved though by first asking does anyone have a coin (older females with purses are best bets). Then the logical disconnect has been established and use whatever coin you brought along.

I recently picked up Industrial Revelation so I now can follow that up with QB2 for a very powerful 1-2 combination.

Respectively submitted,

Decomposing Slowly
Message: Posted by: nonvpro (Aug 5, 2011 3:18pm)
Just got back in from doing a corporate show in San Francisco. I was hired to perform for 2 hours at the end of a 3 day national sales meeting for a large corporation. The event was held at the Mariott in San Francisco. I was compted my stay at the Marriott for Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. My parking was also picked up by the corporation as was the 2 baseball tickets for the Giants game. My room would have cost me about $270.00 per evening for a total of $810.00 which did not include any taxes etc. The parking would have cost me about $65.00 per day for a total of almost $200.00. My fee was $750.00 per hour for a total of $1,500.00 for the 2 hours. If you factor in my fee and everything that was picked up by the corporation, the total package was valued over $2,500.00. I might add I was able to bring my wife along and we made it a mini vacation. So what's the point.? When I came across the person who contacted and hired me at the event, I asked her what was the thing that stood out in her mind that caused her to contact me in the first place and her answer was the "bent quarter". She had been in one of the restaurants where I perform and I worked her table and bent her quarter. QB2, Perfect!!!
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Aug 5, 2011 5:45pm)
Quote:

On 2011-08-05 15:18, nonvpro wrote:
Just got back in from doing a corporate show in San Francisco. I was hired to perform for 2 hours at the end of a 3 day national sales meeting for a large corporation. The event was held at the Mariott in San Francisco. I was compted my stay at the Marriott for Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. My parking was also picked up by the corporation as was the 2 baseball tickets for the Giants game. My room would have cost me about $270.00 per evening for a total of $810.00 which did not include any taxes etc. The parking would have cost me about $65.00 per day for a total of almost $200.00. My fee was $750.00 per hour for a total of $1,500.00 for the 2 hours. If you factor in my fee and everything that was picked up by the corporation, the total package was valued over $2,500.00. I might add I was able to bring my wife along and we made it a mini vacation. So what's the point.? When I came across the person who contacted and hired me at the event, I asked her what was the thing that stood out in her mind that caused her to contact me in the first place and her answer was the "bent quarter". She had been in one of the restaurants where I perform and I worked her table and bent her quarter. QB2, Perfect!!!



Sweet! I love to hear stories like this! It also makes me feel better about my last bid, I know I did not overbid now! :lol:

Decomp

PS: Years ago I got hired at a local nightclub grand opening by a Vegas club owner relocating here. He wanted a mentalist and told me about his former mentalist in Vegas. The ONLY effect he mentioned was a SIGNED quarter bending. At that time I could not do it. Funny how one person raves about one thing and another about something entirely different. My childhood friend still has a quarter saved for 5 decades a magician bent for him.

QB2 overpriced? Nothing is for the working pro who uses it regularly.
Message: Posted by: rmendez (Aug 8, 2011 4:59pm)
Oh my God. I finally saw Coinvexed 2.0 Sharpie Edition yesterday for the crap that it really is. A friend of mine purchased it because it was cheaper than my Quantum Bender 2.0 and was very disappointed to say the least. Save yourself some grief, sorrow, and regret. Regardless of what lies people are posting about CV2, it is not even in the same league as QB2. It is a joke in comparison and like comparing a Schwinn bicycle to a Harley Davidson motorcycle. Honestly, I think the only reason they are posting in favor of CV2 is to make themselves feel better about how much money they dumped and how much closer they would have been had they just saved for a QB2. The CV2 performance routine is not only unmotivated but doesn't even make sense. The magician holds a handful of quarters while asking spectators to borrow, not one, but two coins to be signed. What if they don't have one? The apparatus is so ackward that it is painstakingly obvious that something isn't right. I even felt sorry and embarassed for the performer.
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Aug 10, 2011 12:05am)
Hi Guys,

I have a few QB2s ready to go. I also have several Brain Scan Wallets as well. So, I'd like to offer a very special deal for Café members. Anyone who wishes to purchase a genuine QB2 (through me), will receive a FREE "Brain Scan Wallet"(regular price is $150.00), for a LIMITED TIME and while supplies last. This is not a normal deal or sale, so this offer does not appear on my website. This is by special request only, so all you have to do is ask for it when checking out.

I will also pay for the shipping in the USA so that is FREE too. Please ad an extra $15. Outside of the USA.

Thanks again for all the interest and support.


Magically,
John
Message: Posted by: Jamie Ferguson (Aug 10, 2011 7:18am)
John, I am seriously tempted.

I own the CV2 but am thinking of upgrading.

What to do, what to do.
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Aug 12, 2011 2:10am)
Hi Guys,

I've sold out of QB2s again. Sorry if you missed out on the recent few that were ready to go. However, I do have a few more in the process of being machined, and a few with paint drying now. These units will be ready in a few days or so. I have to do a first come, first serve basis on these. I am accepting orders for the next batch. Thanks.


Magically,
John
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Aug 12, 2011 2:49am)
Hi Jamie,

If I told you that you would absolutely love it, and tons of the top Pro's use it regularly at their gigs, I may sound like I'm just trying to push a sale. So, I won't go into that.

I would like you to make an informed decision, and to be 100% happy with your purchase. So, the best advice I can give you, is to read through some of the threads on the QB2. I think that once you do, you will read tons of rave reviews and positive comments, and then you will be able to make that decision easier.

If I can answer any of your questions at all, please feel free to contact me. I know this isn't much advice on whether you should make the investment or not, but I hope this helps.


Magically,
John
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Aug 12, 2011 5:20pm)
Better yet - feel free to PM any of us who own and use QB2 daily. There is no substitute.
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Aug 12, 2011 5:26pm)
Quote:

On 2011-08-12 17:20, saysold1 wrote:
Better yet - feel free to PM any of us who own and use QB2 daily. There is no substitute.




I'm partial to the Boa Bender myself :P
Message: Posted by: DJ Trix (Aug 12, 2011 11:02pm)
Hi John, do you have a deal available for those seeking the QB2 alone?
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Aug 13, 2011 12:58am)
Quote:

On 2011-08-12 23:02, DJ Trix wrote:
Hi John, do you have a deal available for those seeking the QB2 alone?



I don't think John Sheets "discounts" the Quantum Bender 2 ...so as not to undercut the retailers who sell it.

But by offering some special "extras" with the QB2 - never before offered as far as I know - John is making the QB2 an even better value and a good reason to buy it from him directly. In addition, John is always available to help you via email.

I performed the QB2 twice tonight at a restaurant, and the way people reacted to this is priceless.
Message: Posted by: DJ Trix (Aug 13, 2011 2:08am)
I totally believe it.
Message: Posted by: Lou Cirulli (Aug 13, 2011 2:28am)
I perform QB2 10-20 times a night! I'm proficient at a lot of magic; this is all anyone cares about! Oh yea...and Pressure! :)
Message: Posted by: Jamie Ferguson (Aug 13, 2011 4:08am)
Quote:

On 2011-08-12 17:26, lunatik wrote:
Quote:

On 2011-08-12 17:20, saysold1 wrote:
Better yet - feel free to PM any of us who own and use QB2 daily. There is no substitute.




I'm partial to the Boa Bender myself :P


Thanks for the recommendation, it looks like it's a lot cheaper than QB2 but does exactly the same thing..
Message: Posted by: digiassn (Aug 13, 2011 5:17am)
I have had the chance to work up close with a lot of coin benders. I ended up settling on CV2 for the time being. QB2 is by far the best coin bender out there though. The money you spend on it is well worth it, and as soon as I can afford it, I will definitely be purchasing one. The routine is much cleaner IMHO, the tool is much better constructed and much easier to use. You will make a coin bend part of your regular routine with this. I really feel it is THAT strong.
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Aug 13, 2011 5:54am)
Quote:

On 2011-08-13 04:08, Jamie Ferguson wrote:
Quote:

On 2011-08-12 17:26, lunatik wrote:
Quote:

On 2011-08-12 17:20, saysold1 wrote:
Better yet - feel free to PM any of us who own and use QB2 daily. There is no substitute.




I'm partial to the Boa Bender myself :P


Thanks for the recommendation, it looks like it's a lot cheaper than QB2 but does exactly the same thing..



just kidding man lol. The Boa stinks imo, not very usable and sub par compared to the QB2. just go back to the very first post of this entire thread, oh wait, I'm the one who started this thread! now it has 202,000 views, people are very interested in the QB2 as it is the Rolls Royce of coin benders. save some loot and pick one up, you won't regret it!
Message: Posted by: The Melkur (Aug 13, 2011 6:03am)
Is the Brain Scan wallet offer still open with QB2, for shipping to the UK?
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Aug 13, 2011 6:22am)
Qb2 rocks! Don't get it though, I don't want ya messing it up if you don't perform with it! I ensure mine is tucked in well each night so I know its safe and sound before the next gig. It has treated me so nice over the years and will continue to do so. Just ensure you bring your own coins! :lol:
Message: Posted by: Jamie Ferguson (Aug 13, 2011 6:43am)
Quote:

On 2011-08-13 05:54, lunatik wrote:
Quote:

On 2011-08-13 04:08, Jamie Ferguson wrote:
Quote:

On 2011-08-12 17:26, lunatik wrote:
Quote:

On 2011-08-12 17:20, saysold1 wrote:
Better yet - feel free to PM any of us who own and use QB2 daily. There is no substitute.




I'm partial to the Boa Bender myself :P


Thanks for the recommendation, it looks like it's a lot cheaper than QB2 but does exactly the same thing..



just kidding man lol. The Boa stinks imo, not very usable and sub par compared to the QB2. just go back to the very first post of this entire thread, oh wait, I'm the one who started this thread! now it has 202,000 views, people are very interested in the QB2 as it is the Rolls Royce of coin benders. save some loot and pick one up, you won't regret it!


I'm glad you clarified. I was seriously considering buying one. I completely misunderstood that you were joking!

During my searches I came across another pen bender. Does anyone know how this one compares with QB2? http://store.jameslclark.com/products/The-Sharpie-Bender-(Key-AND-Coin-Edition).html
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Aug 13, 2011 10:00am)
Please don't get started on Clark's 100% ripoff version. We've been through it before here and its a sore subject really.

Lets just say that it is NOT the same thing no matter what Clark says.
Message: Posted by: Jamie Ferguson (Aug 13, 2011 11:03am)
Sorry for bringing it up, I didn't know it was a sore point.
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Aug 13, 2011 11:14am)
Quote:

On 2011-08-13 11:03, Jamie Ferguson wrote:
Sorry for bringing it up, I didn't know it was a sore point.



No worries - that other person's reputation is well known in the community. Many of the top people shun him as bad news.

Me, I prefer to support the originator/creator. In this case John T. Sheets.

This thread was heavily edited some months ago when many (including me) started to compare the two bend devices and the fact that they are not of the same quality or caliber - and one is a copycat. So on that note, best to stay away from that topic and keep it light...
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Aug 13, 2011 6:09pm)
Quote:

On 2011-08-13 00:58, saysold1 wrote:
Quote:

On 2011-08-12 23:02, DJ Trix wrote:
Hi John, do you have a deal available for those seeking the QB2 alone?



I don't think John Sheets "discounts" the Quantum Bender 2 ...so as not to undercut the retailers who sell it.

But by offering some special "extras" with the QB2 - never before offered as far as I know - John is making the QB2 an even better value and a good reason to buy it from him directly. In addition, John is always available to help you via email.

I performed the QB2 twice tonight at a restaurant, and the way people reacted to this is priceless.




Hi DJ Trix,


Thanks for your interest in the QB2.

Saysold1 is correct in that I don't want to undercut the dealers. To show my appreciation to the people who buy a QB2 directly from me, I am including the Brain Scan Wallet for free. ;)


Magically,
John
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Aug 13, 2011 6:36pm)
Quote:

On 2011-08-13 06:03, The Melkur wrote:
Is the Brain Scan wallet offer still open with QB2, for shipping to the UK?





The Melkur,


Yes, just please remember to ask for the free wallet in checkout. If it is not requested, I do not include it.

You may Paypal me at: john@johntsheets.com
The price is $495. (Plus $15 for shipping)

Thank you.


Magically,
John
Message: Posted by: digiassn (Aug 13, 2011 7:47pm)
Dang it John... You're tempting me too much. My plan was to get good with CV2 first, the purchase QB2 when I knew my confidence was there with a coin bend of lesser ease so I could just totally floor with QB2... I might just be picking this up sooner than I thought.
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Aug 13, 2011 8:22pm)
Quote:

On 2011-08-13 19:47, digiassn wrote:
Dang it John... You're tempting me too much. My plan was to get good with CV2 first, the purchase QB2 when I knew my confidence was there with a coin bend of lesser ease so I could just totally floor with QB2... I might just be picking this up sooner than I thought.



just wanted to chime in....imo, you would need more confidence performing CV2 than QB2 as there's more coins involved and the device isn't no where near as easy to use. The QB2 is by far the easiest bender to use compared to the competition. Plus, if you get the QB2 now, you wouldn't have wasted money on CV2 trying to sell it!
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Aug 14, 2011 5:26pm)
Well I was out with Digiassn last night for his brithday and saw a buddy of mine Rich do this for my wife and COMPLETLEY blew her away. I was playing the magi looking for the move and have to agree that this thing is INVIVISBLE! I really enjoyed it. Ill have to be saving me pennys to try to get one....
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Aug 15, 2011 3:56am)
Hi Guys,

Good news. I have a few QB2s back in stock. At times this is a limited item, as each unit is machined and finished by hand in small quantities. The process is actually allot of work and balancing my time between this and shows can be challenging. Sometimes I have them available, while other times I don't. Often they are on back order to the dealers as well. Again, right now I have a few available, but I can't say for how long. To avoid disappointment, you may want to order yours now, as this is a first come first serve type of thing. Thanks. ;)
Message: Posted by: theinternetguru (Aug 16, 2011 1:24pm)
Ordered mine with the BS wallet offer. Very excited to get my hands on this.
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Aug 16, 2011 2:29pm)
Quote:

On 2011-08-16 13:24, theinternetguru wrote:
Ordered mine with the BS wallet offer. Very excited to get my hands on this.



If you need any tips of advice any of us here would be happy I'm sure to help when you get it. You will LOVE this
Message: Posted by: rmendez (Aug 16, 2011 5:13pm)
Thanks guys. digiassn and paisa23 are both friends and fellow magicians here in the Alamo city and witnessed the power of QB2 first hand.
Message: Posted by: theinternetguru (Aug 18, 2011 9:46pm)
Well, I received my QB in the mail today. Excellent service, to say the least. And after opening and handling this, I have to say I am blown away by the quality of the manufacturing, and how easily and quickly coins bend. It was difficult to picture how good this would be until I had it. This is money well spent, imo. Now, I would be thankful for suggestions on using it in performance, as there is that one moment when you are actually bending the coin and need to look like you are not bending the coin that makes me nervous, lol. The way John does it in the video looks pretty good, but I am wondering if you could do it twice for the same audience without them focusing their attention on the bending the second time. If you have a method or some patter for covering the bend, I'd appreciate your advice in a PM.
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Aug 18, 2011 10:17pm)
At the moment I need to do the work, I usually ask the spectators "Does anyone know what a quarter is made of? What kind of metals?"

I'm watching their eyes when I ask so 99% of the time they either look in bewilderment at each other... Start making guesses as to the kind of metal... Or they look at me. One way or another I get the single second needed (plus extra) to do the work.

I don't do john's "have you seen the trick with the quarter..." Line.

I had the same initial fears you mentioned - ask Lunatik who helped me get through it lol!
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Aug 19, 2011 2:06am)
I no longer perform it like the demo video anymore. Over time, and after so many performances, there is a natural evolution, and honing of the effect. I've completely changed the way I perform it, the mechanics, psychology, misdirection, etc.

I've talked about different methods and ideas for the misdirection throughout this thread. Here is some of what I have said in the past:

I try not to repeat it for the same person or group, but as you already know, people always request to see it again and again. When performing a set, this effect is the one that constantly gets the attention. I have found that when I tell people that I cannot repeat it, they will then try to get sneaky. Sometimes they will leave, but then return with someone new, who then requests to see the effect. They will sometimes linger near by, circling kinda like sharks, lol. They try to watch "secretly" from the back of a group or from behind other people, while trying not to be noticed. LOL! I have had people follow me from group to group, staying a little behind me. They show up a few moments after I've already started the set, as I believe they know I'm not going to stop the performance or tell them to go away. Maybe it's because I've already started performing for others. I've even had the occasional bribe to do it again. Oh well, what can you do? I've had people see it 4 and 5 times in a row and still be fooled and amazed.

However, I do suggest that in the event that someone is able to see a repeat performance, that you alter the effect, routine, timing, moment of the "work", psychology, etc.. Many of the ideas are explained on the DVD. Here are just a few that come to mind at this time. I'm sure there are many more that I am forgetting to mention right now. I also don't want to repeat too much of what is on the DVD. One of the biggest pieces of advice I can give is to change the moment that you do the work. Sometimes I do it while I say "this metal CANNOT be bent", creating a dual reality of sorts. They think you are just demonstrating that it can't be done, when in fact you are secretly doing it. You can tell a joke like "have you ever seen the trick where a coin disappears when you tap it with a pen? -Well, I don't do that trick". This is a great moment to do the work, as the audience laughs, lets their guard down etc.. Another good moment is after you ask a direct question, like "Do you know what this coin is made of?" They will always look up at your eyes or at another spectator while answering or asking for the answer. I have also done the work at an unplanned moment, like a quick distraction in the room, a loud noise or someone else entering the group, etc.. I have also done it while walking around someone to better position myself in the group, so that "they may get a better view". Using another prop, or a second coin in the routine could also create a great opportunity.

Something to remember about the QB2, is that after you have done the secret work, it is possible to display the coin as still being flat and straight. There are also a few displays or convincers that you can ad into it as well, like tossing the coin into the air and catching it, as you say something like "watch the coin". They will see the coin traveling up through the air and back down again, and they will quietly convince themselves that they saw a flat coin flying through the air. I never say "look it's flat/straight", but rather simply "look" or "OK, here we go". Tossing it from one hand to another does the same kind of thing. They can't focus their eyes on the tumbling coin, and because you are ahead of them, they have no clue of the actual situation.

Also, don't forget the false take that is explained on the DVD, where you simulate holding the coin in your hand, and carry it away from the QB2, to create less time that the coin and device have apparently spent together. If you own the DVD, you will know what I'm talking about.

I do encourage owners of the QB2 to brainstorm, and to use their own ideas, routines, style, presentation, patter, etc., and to find what fits best for them, their style, and personality. Trial and error is a great thing and can be a valuable learning experience. Of course the more you do it, the more you will discover great things on your own. It is a tool, that when given the proper time, attention, rehearsal, thinking, routining, etc, can be extremely strong and convincing, and therefore can make it a favorite prop in your arsenal, and one of your most requested effects.

I hope this helps.


Magically,
John
http://www.johntsheets.com
Inventor of the "Quantum Bender" and the "Quantum Bender 2.0"
Message: Posted by: theinternetguru (Aug 19, 2011 3:17pm)
Thank you, and also to Saysold1 and Lunatik, who sent me a PM. It seems that the key is to maintain eye contact and ask questions while the deed is happening, and if possible, to come up with some natural motions of your hands before and after the action itself. I will spend time on it this week and then submit friends and family to a trial run. Thank you all.
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Aug 19, 2011 4:39pm)
Quote:

On 2011-08-19 15:17, theinternetguru wrote:
Thank you, and also to Saysold1 and Lunatik, who sent me a PM. It seems that the key is to maintain eye contact and ask questions while the deed is happening, and if possible, to come up with some natural motions of your hands before and after the action itself. I will spend time on it this week and then submit friends and family to a trial run. Thank you all.



Internetguru:

Have fun! You won't believe how easy it is to do the work lickety split, and once you get used to the placement of the coin without looking you will get super comfortable with it. I usually keep the pocket clip facing me. It will all become second nature when you start doing it.

I also strongly recommend you buy yourself a nice leather case to protect your investment - I use this one and swear by it - great quality, and mine still looks new after a year - and so does my QB2. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009WMIPY

I worried WAY too much when I got this last year about the moment being so bold, but it really isn't bold once you start doing it.

Jon - thanks VERY VERY much for the really good advice above. Besides being a genius, you are a very generous creator and your advice is always helpful - even though I do this al lthe time - I can still use tips on doing repeats as you are correct that many want to see this again and again. Oh well!
Message: Posted by: John T. Sheets (Aug 20, 2011 2:53am)
Hi Guys,

I thought I'd post this here because my PM box has suddenly blown up with allot of people asking the same questions.

Yes, the way I perform the QB2 now is different than what is on the demo. I think the demo is pretty old now, at least to me. I have been considering making a new video, but right now I can't promise as I've been so crazy busy lately.

I use allot of the ideas that I've recently shared on the QB2 thread. The way I do the secret work now is less animated with motion, and I've changed it a little mechanically as well. I believe the way I do the work now is allot less visible to the eye.

I think applying trial and error to your practice will help tweak it for the better, and doing so over time creates a natural progression that should only get better as you go. As with anything, the more you do it, the better you will get. ;)


Thanks for all the interest. ;)

Magically,
John
Message: Posted by: theinternetguru (Aug 21, 2011 3:00am)
Thanks, my case is on order. :)
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Aug 24, 2011 9:04am)
Quote:

On 2011-08-19 15:17, theinternetguru wrote:
Thank you, and also to Saysold1 and Lunatik, who sent me a PM. It seems that the key is to maintain eye contact and ask questions while the deed is happening, and if possible, to come up with some natural motions of your hands before and after the action itself. I will spend time on it this week and then submit friends and family to a trial run. Thank you all.



So how are you doing with your new QB2 ?
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Aug 27, 2011 3:43am)
Wow, Yeah John, got us curious now!
Message: Posted by: theinternetguru (Aug 27, 2011 12:23pm)
Quote:

On 2011-08-24 09:04, saysold1 wrote:
So how are you doing with your new QB2 ?


I did a family and friends performance, they were absolutely astounded. No clue whatsoever how I did this. My younger brother is a police officer. He was watching me carefully on this one, and his mouth just dropped open when he got the bent coin. The children in the room now believe uncle Mike has true mental powers. Except for my own kids of course, lol. I went with a combination of your suggestions for patter, and some specific ideas that Lunatik sent me in a PM. All I need to think about now is how I am going to do it next time, when some of the same people are present.
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Aug 27, 2011 9:24pm)
Quote:

On 2011-08-27 12:23, theinternetguru wrote:
Quote:

On 2011-08-24 09:04, saysold1 wrote:
So how are you doing with your new QB2 ?


I did a family and friends performance, they were absolutely astounded. No clue whatsoever how I did this. My younger brother is a police officer. He was watching me carefully on this one, and his mouth just dropped open when he got the bent coin. The children in the room now believe uncle Mike has true mental powers. Except for my own kids of course, lol. I went with a combination of your suggestions for patter, and some specific ideas that Lunatik sent me in a PM. All I need to think about now is how I am going to do it next time, when some of the same people are present.



That is great!!!

Just re-read some of John's great ideas above for repeats.

Honestly, I have done the trick more than once for the same people and haven't changed a thing. There are really two groups of repeaters - those that seek to be "amazed" again, and the other people who are burning you looking to see the move or method. Sometimes you can get a sense for which people fall into which group. Those that want to be amazed seem to kick back and are so excited to see THEIR friends amazed that the spend the whole trick watching them - that is my experiencing anyway.

I think John's idea of a kind of dual reality in saying "you can't bend a quarter" when doing the move is very solid for repeats.

As you play with this more you will find that there is an "optimal" bend amount - if you bend too much, it comes off crappy and is hard to do the reveal smoothly. If you bend too little, it still looks good but the effect loses a smidgen of astonishment - as people visually don't "see" the bend occurring slowly as you reveal it.

As you practice more you will find that you get the right amount of bend when you make the move 95% of the time without thinking about it...

I also ALWAYS carry quarters but also ALWAYS ask for a quarter first as my preference is to use theirs.
Message: Posted by: Larry Davidson (Aug 28, 2011 8:45pm)
Here's a different type of reveal that I created a long time ago, and it gets a strong reaction. After putting in the work, spin the coin on a table. Because of the spin, the audience can't tell that the coin is already bent. When the coin starts to slow down, it will quickly stop, so just when you see it slow down, hold your hand about a foot away from the coin with your palm facing it, tense your hand so that it shakes as if you're transmitting energy towards the coin, and the coin will fall and be seen bent. It's a hands-off method of appearing to bend the coin. Enjoy.
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Aug 29, 2011 6:32pm)
Great idea but it seems when I tried it that you have to only put a small bend in the coin - too much bend seems to impede the ability of the coin to spin.

I love the concept but I'm assuming you are "moderating" the bend so as not to be too great...is that correct Larry?

Thanks so much for sharing the idea.

BRETT
Message: Posted by: Larry Davidson (Aug 29, 2011 9:34pm)
Correct, the bend shouldn't be too severe, and by the way, I spin the coin with both hands vs. one hand to get the coin spinning fast.
Message: Posted by: nowyoucme (Aug 30, 2011 5:49am)
CV2. Way cheeper and just as good. The coin ends up the same way in the end. Bent.
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Aug 30, 2011 8:59am)
Quote:

On 2011-08-30 05:49, nowyoucme wrote:
CV2. Way cheeper and just as good. The coin ends up the same way in the end. Bent.



meanwhile back at the ranch
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Aug 30, 2011 9:27am)
Quote:

On 2011-08-30 05:49, nowyoucme wrote:
CV2. Way cheeper and just as good. The coin ends up the same way in the end. Bent.



Not taking the troll bait. Enjoy your CV2.
Message: Posted by: Sammy J. (Aug 31, 2011 10:56pm)
Quote:

On 2011-08-30 05:49, nowyoucme wrote:
CV2. Way cheeper and just as good. The coin ends up the same way in the end. Bent.



OK Brett, I will take the troll bait.

Now that is funny! Good one!

Ending up the same (and it's not the same) is NOT what it's about. How cleanly you get there IS! Nothing against CV2, but it isn't at the level of QB2.
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Aug 31, 2011 11:10pm)
You go Sammy!!! Lol :)

I'm still in recovery from all my Brad Henderson run-ins on the Café.
Message: Posted by: TheAmazingSteveo (Sep 1, 2011 12:33am)
I made a post on this same thread Apr 5, 2007 ... after many years later using QB2 ... this continues to
remain one of my top effects ... I blend it in with other routines using a signed quarter.

After many years people continue to come up to me with their signed bent quarter from there wallet or purse just to show me.

I started off bringing and using my own quarters ... but this plays much bigger if you never touch the quarter only AFTER it is signed on both sides with a perm. marker. Plus it's a lot cheaper.

I painted mine a few times and since it is covered up and out of play I really don't care anymore if it is bruised up.
Right now mine looks pretty bad with lots of scrapes ... but it does get a work out and the mechanism has held up very
well. If my QB2 ever got lost or stolen ... I DEFINTELY would buy another one fedex next day shipping.
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Sep 1, 2011 1:21pm)
How do you find so many people carrying coins with them these days Steveo? I have to use my own.

I always let them keep it also and then, they can take it and have it looked at and as long as it is signed before the bend, it should have the same effect on them. I mean backtracking, you could have easily sw****d their quarter also.