(Close Window) Topic: Four Pip Index Bee Playing Cards
Message: Posted by: WalkerMagic (Feb 5, 2012 11:56am)
Does anyone know where I can get Bee playing cards with pips in all four corners?

Thanks,

Tommy
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Feb 5, 2012 12:21pm)
They do not make them this way that I know of, U.S. Playing Card Company usually calls them a Left Handed Deck when they printed some years ago in bridge Aviator back design.

The closest thing to Bee design is a manipulation deck from Japan put out by UGM. Stevens Magic sells them here in the U.S.

http://www.stevensmagic.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=103_63&products_id=111532

I just ordered 2 decks of these to see how they will work.
Message: Posted by: DJ Trix (Feb 8, 2012 10:25pm)
These are great, I just wish they had a bridge size.
Message: Posted by: Darkwing (Feb 8, 2012 10:30pm)
I have a deck of the cards by UGM. They're ok, not bad.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Feb 8, 2012 11:36pm)
Okay? I just received my decks today! They are great! They should last a very long time being plastic coated. Very flexible and oh so thin. And I love the 4 index pips for backward fanning, never have to show a blank fan of cards.

The nice thing is with this type of deck is that you can actually back palm 2 decks if you wish. Talk about cutting down on steals.

I still prefer the Lance Buton deck for manipulation production, they are much easier to maneuver then poker size cards. The fans look better and more pips show with a large quantity cards.

Most of the manipulators in Japan actually use these and for combining productions with fanning displays, use the oversize Fanning Long cards by UGM. These are a hair wider then the bridge Burton decks and about a half inch longer. Makes for a very are fan that can be seen easily. The only problem is it takes a little different handling being there are not flesh tone on the backs.

I really appreciate Norm Nielsen and UGM for supplying the magic community with these cards, back in 1960's through the 1980's these were not available. You had only a card company in England that made manipulation cards. Now we have a number of choices and I am very thankful.

I have all the UGM cards and Norm Nielsen cards. They are a good send for manipulators.

Remember one card is not always perfect for every maneuver, so use what you find will work for you.
Message: Posted by: JamesRaymond (Feb 9, 2012 9:03pm)
These do look nice. I will need to get some for myself. I like the 4 pips as well. Thanks for the link wmhegbli.
Message: Posted by: JamesRaymond (Feb 14, 2012 9:09pm)
I placed my order for those cards...now I sit and wait on the mail man. I'll be sure to post my two cents. :)
Message: Posted by: JamesRaymond (Feb 17, 2012 6:46pm)
I got my cards today...very nice. They look and feel real nice. I like that they are "almost" poker size.

They will need some powder, that's for sure. I have that so no big deal. Again, thanks for the link to those.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Feb 18, 2012 6:55am)
Jim, the more you work with them the more they work without fanning powder. I have been Faro shuffling and shuffling them a lot and as yet to put any powder on them. Of course I will powder them, as powder give you better control. The cut edges need to be worn down a bit from the stamping process. You can do this by working the cards and letting your hands get use the the feel, or take a heavy duty spoon and run/rub the bowl of the spoon around the edges of each card. This micro edge left protruding from when they were stamp cut, is what is preventing them from gliding smoothly over each other.

To find out what I am refering to the cut edge, fan the deck and run your finger lightly across the faces of the cards. As you pass each card, you will feel a slight raised edge. This edge is what needs to be smoothed out.

Hope this helps your cards.
Message: Posted by: JamesRaymond (Feb 18, 2012 11:24am)
Quote:

On 2012-02-18 06:55, wmhegbli wrote:
Jim, the more you work with them the more they work without fanning powder. I have been Faro shuffling and shuffling them a lot and as yet to put any powder on them. Of course I will powder them, as powder give you better control. The cut edges need to be worn down a bit from the stamping process. You can do this by working the cards and letting your hands get use the the feel, or take a heavy duty spoon and run/rub the bowl of the spoon around the edges of each card. This micro edge left protruding from when they were stamp cut, is what is preventing them from gliding smoothly over each other.

To find out what I am refering to the cut edge, fan the deck and run your finger lightly across the faces of the cards. As you pass each card, you will feel a slight raised edge. This edge is what needs to be smoothed out.

Hope this helps your cards.


I see what you are talking about, thanks for the help.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Feb 18, 2012 11:36am)
Oh, to be more clear, lay the card face up on the table, with the bowl of the spoon and a finger or thumb in the bowl, run the spoon around each edge of the face up card. Powder and start creating miracles with those cards.

Always, always get your wifes permission to use any of her furniture to do this. Otherwise, go to the garage or basement. LOL