Topic: Blue Tiger Decks

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Posted by: AntonDreaming (Nov 28, 2004 9:16pm)

I found These Baby Blue "Tiger" style decks at a local Target. They were two dollars a piece. They were also made in Bicycle back and made by the U.S. Playing Card Co. I wanted to know if any of you fine folks have seen the deck in any other styles?

Anton~Man of Strange

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Posted by: jtcavataio (Nov 28, 2004 10:22pm)

I have to go to Target tomorrow. I will take a look.
Are they regular Bike backs?

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Posted by: AntonDreaming (Nov 28, 2004 11:25pm)

They are but with a strange border. You'll know what I mean when you see it.

~Anton~

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Posted by: Alpen (Nov 28, 2004 11:40pm)

How is the quality/handling of the cards? Are they standard size as well?

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Posted by: AntonDreaming (Nov 29, 2004 12:01am)

Yes they are made by the us playing co and are the exact same as the regular bikes we know and love. They are the same as a regular poker deck in every way except the tone and style of the ink. There pretty sweet...

~Anton~

By the way check out the thread under penny for your thoughts on Max Mavens Stolen Look... I know this isn't card suff but none the less effects us all in this game of perception... read what Banacheck has written carfuly.

~Anton~

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Posted by: Suave Dan (Nov 29, 2004 1:13am)

Can you scan a picture for us?

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Posted by: Marco S. (Nov 29, 2004 6:57am)

Yes, scan a picture please. Would like to see those cards.

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Posted by: Mercury52 (Nov 29, 2004 11:00am)

I picked up 2 of these decks at target on saturday. Indeed similar to the original tigers, in that all suits are printed in white, and the rest of the face and back in a UNC-type blue. Same finish, poker size, etc. For me, they evoke a snowy kind of feeling, perhaps its a wintery idea from USPC. I'll try to get some scanned and posted today.

Kevin

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Posted by: jtcavataio (Nov 29, 2004 12:16pm)

I hope all the Targets are carrying them.
Cant wait to check this out. I am a sucker for a "different" deck of cards!

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Posted by: Cardjinx (Nov 29, 2004 12:35pm)

Where can I get them? Sounds great.

Jinx

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Posted by: Reis O'Brien (Nov 29, 2004 12:51pm)

I just got a deck the other day at Target. Very nice! But they're baby blue, so they make me think, "It's a boy!"

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Posted by: Suave Dan (Nov 29, 2004 3:15pm)

Are they Target exclusives?

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Posted by: JCaelum (Nov 29, 2004 4:44pm)

I went to a nearby target and they didn't have any, but they had these "designer back" bicycles, they had a trendy green/purple polka dot design...kinda ugly if you ask me. I'll check another target later for the blue decks

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Posted by: Frank Starsini (Nov 29, 2004 6:45pm)

Isn't it more important that you use the same kind of deck all the time and get used to it over hundreds of performances as opposed to switching to tally-ho's because the kid that drools and picks his nose at the magic shop says they're better, then switch to black tigers becuase somebody that wears sunglasses at night says he gets all the chicks becuase of them, then switch to blue tigers and then to Jerry's Nuggets, and then Studs, and then .......

Let's be honest with ourselves. Shall we?

What? Oh... it's all about getting chicks?

I stand corrected.
My appologies.

Can anyone tell me if Black Tigers are sexier than Jerry's Nuggets cards to the chicks? I need to spend money!

Frank

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Posted by: AntonDreaming (Nov 29, 2004 10:01pm)

While that last remark was cute, I see nothing wrong with having a deck that compliments an outfit. It is one of those small professional touches that add to your persona.

~Anton~

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Posted by: Suave Dan (Nov 29, 2004 10:05pm)

Or having cards that match your name.

i.e. Someone named Joe Green uses Green backed cards.

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Posted by: Jonathan Rice (Nov 29, 2004 10:05pm)

Yeah I use tallys because I like the back desgin and I think they are of slightly better quality than Bikes.

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Posted by: Suave Dan (Nov 29, 2004 10:10pm)

Never used a deck of Tally Ho cards.

The way some people talk about them makes me think I'm missing the greatest thing since pasteboard its self.

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Posted by: Alpen (Nov 30, 2004 12:05am)

I'm dying to see what these look like :)

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Posted by: Frank Starsini (Nov 30, 2004 4:36am)

I actually heard that TAlly Ho's and Bikes are made of the EXACT same stock and that there is basically no difference... any more. There used to be... but not anymore.

I wonder if anyone can confirm this, for real.

Paul Green uses lots of green props.

I know people that have purchased lots of decks to suit their personna. I think this is ok too. As long as you're not bouncing around like a jack-in-the-box at the latest whim of the marketeers.

And thanks for thinking my post was cute.
I strive for cuteness.

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Posted by: Marco S. (Nov 30, 2004 9:04am)

You are right, Frank. I really would like to know of Bikes and Tally-Hos are made of the same stock or not. I think they really are.

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Posted by: Jeremy Greystoke (Nov 30, 2004 1:59pm)

Lennert Green has a penchant for green-backed Bikes. And the odd-colored backs at Target (which I haven't seen yet, but will have to look for) do sound like they'd be useful for a color-changing deck....especially the "trendy" green/purple polka dot design! :)

And it wouldn't surprise me at all to know that Tally-Ho cards are now on the same stock as regular Bikes. At least the printing still seems to be of a higher quality than many of the usual Bicycle decks.

Jeremy

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Posted by: Avin (Nov 30, 2004 4:24pm)

Bikes and Tally-Ho's are made by two different manufacturers, right? USPC & Dougherty respectively? Or is this yet another instance of corporate blendo?

Anthony

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Posted by: JCaelum (Nov 30, 2004 5:11pm)

No - Bikes, Tally's, and Bees are all made by the United States Playing Card co. I think they are all on the same stock, but all have different finishes (i.e., bikes are air-cushion, tally hos are linoid finish, and bees have a cambric finish)

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Posted by: Anthony Correia (Nov 30, 2004 7:37pm)

Frank-
Its funny that you ask that question. I sent an email to USPC asking that same question, and with some specific questions regarding Bee, Tally Ho, and Bikes. That was probably 4 monts ago, and I never got a reply. Maybe thay are all the same, but they don't want to tell.

Anthony

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Posted by: Chris Keppel (Nov 30, 2004 9:59pm)

Great no more high fees of 6-7-8 bucks a deck for a normal deck that should be 2 bucks. I still like the tigers and will still have some but for the price these blue ones are tight. Bicycle should get smart and relize that they can make decks in all colors and people will buy the heck out of them. Not just magicians. They should listen to us on these things because we helped make that company what it is today and we help keep it running. I know I have bought my fair share of cards in my day. Im sure you all have as well.

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Posted by: Alpen (Nov 30, 2004 10:24pm)

Any chance of someone posting a scan??

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Posted by: AntonDreaming (Nov 30, 2004 10:51pm)

Yeah so I have still be wanting to know about the diffrent colors are they out there? I would love to know....Also They have BIkes poker chips named of 8 gram clay. They are two tone and have the bike name across them. Just thought Id put it out there.

~Anton~

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Posted by: 20Robert04 (Dec 1, 2004 12:24am)

Well I went to Target today. I checked but didn't see any of the blue decks that were mentioned. I did find the poko dot ones, and had to laugh. They looked too weird for me. I did however get a very nice tin box with two decks in it. Im working on some ideas for the tin.
Consequently over on another forum someone posted some Lime Green bikes. If anyone has seen these in the states I would love to get my hands on some.

Anton- if you want to know the diffrent colors, I know of red, blue, black, black tiger, and army red. I know they have had contless designs over the years. I just found a pack of Army&Navy ones from the early 19th century.

Paul

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Posted by: AntonDreaming (Dec 1, 2004 12:53am)

Thank you for the info Robert...but I wanted to know of the diffrent colors for these tiger stye decks. Thanks Any way.
Anton

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Posted by: David Franklin (Dec 1, 2004 7:59am)

I visited my local Target store last evening and they did not have the blue tigers. They did have the $1 jumbo decks that have been mentioned in another thread as well as the bicycle "designer" deck. I got some of both of these. I sure would like to see the blue tigers. Maybe they are only getting them in the larger metro area stores?

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Posted by: Ann Omminous (Dec 1, 2004 8:04am)

Is there a web-site address for target?

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Posted by: David Franklin (Dec 1, 2004 8:14am)

Yes, they are at Target.com. They don't list these cards on the web site however. I did several searches with no luck.

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Posted by: Adam Keisner (Dec 1, 2004 8:17am)

Hi Guys I am a bit of nut for diffrent types of bikes and I have a hell load of bright green back bicycle playing cards, available exclusivly thru an English magic shop. These green backs are NOT the typical Christmas style or the dull looking tactical fields but are bright apple green. If anyone wants to do a straight exchange of these baby blues or the polka dot design please pm me and we'll sort it out. Many thanks. AK

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Posted by: Marco S. (Dec 1, 2004 8:57am)

You are right. The green-backed Bikes are pretty cool. They are sold by magicbox.uk.com.
I like them a lot.

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Posted by: Steve Dela (Dec 1, 2004 5:41pm)

I have to agree, I like the green backs! good quality control, I have had a duff pack yet! they are good to sign the backs with a red sharpie.
I would like to get some of these blue cards. I wonder if the card collection will get them? anyone from England know?

In Magic
Steve Dela

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Posted by: Mike Powers (Dec 1, 2004 7:04pm)

Here's a thought: You could turn a normal blue backed card blank as you "extract" the blue ink. Now you print 2 of the light blue using only half the ink for each.... You could extract the red ink from the faces, leaving the white hearts etc.. It will be difficult to justify the blue background... ideas..

Mike

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Posted by: Frank Starsini (Dec 1, 2004 7:11pm)

Hey Mike. That's kind of neat.
If the spectator was given a pen that ran out of ink and you sucked the ink off the back of their selected card and the pen all of a sudden worked again, and their signed card now had a blank face. I can see something like that hapening.

That's a good idea.

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Posted by: Suave Dan (Dec 1, 2004 9:08pm)

Can anyone post pics?

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Posted by: Reis O'Brien (Dec 2, 2004 9:58am)

I just used a blue card with Red Hot Mama the other day at the hospital and it worked great! It had such a big contrast to the red deck. These cards are great!

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Posted by: Mercury52 (Dec 2, 2004 6:00pm)

I've made some scans of the card faces, backs, and box. Is someone willing to receive them through e-mail and host them somewhere? Thanks.

Kevin

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Posted by: CardiniMan (Dec 2, 2004 6:29pm)

Couldn't find the blue ones...would they be "fashion" cards as well? that's what the dotted ones and the colorful swirl back ones are. Btw the swirl ones might be great for fanning.

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Posted by: Suave Dan (Dec 3, 2004 2:18am)

Mercury, If you send me a PM, I'll give you my email address, and I'll get some hosting.

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Posted by: Mercury52 (Dec 7, 2004 5:25pm)

I've e-mailed the pictures to a kind soul to get hosted, they'll hopefully be up soon. Another feature of these light blue bikes is that they come with 2 identical "big" Jokers, as opposed to the normal one big, one smaller with text.

Kevin

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Posted by: Barajista (Dec 7, 2004 9:01pm)

Are the light blue bikes in a box like regular bikes or the clear-style plastic box like the fashion cards?

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Posted by: AntonDreaming (Dec 8, 2004 7:05am)

Regular box type

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Posted by: jtcavataio (Dec 8, 2004 1:08pm)

I find it fascinating that Target cant even tell me how to find these blasted cards!

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Posted by: fingerjack (Dec 8, 2004 2:33pm)

I picked up a dozen packs today, They were advertised for $1.97 but rang up $2.49 a pack. I had to make a fuss to get the price they listed.

I am a little skeptical that they are the same quality of Bikes. They feel a little thinner and flimsier, plus the blemishes on the faces (which are all blue as well) show up easily (white speckles).

The box, while Bicycle, is a simpler version. No where does it state air cushion finish although they appear to be. For those that don't know, the only colors you will find in this deck is light blue and white. No red and the court cards have no multicolor.

A little dissapointed actually, but it is something new at least. You will not find these cards at the Target website.

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Posted by: Roger Kelly (Dec 8, 2004 2:36pm)

Someone POST A SCAN for Chrissakes!

Er :)

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Posted by: Mercury52 (Dec 9, 2004 9:53am)

Like I said before, I've scanned some images and sent them to someone to get hosted, now just waiting to see them. If anyone is really anxious to see them, I can send them to someone else for hosting.

Kevin

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Posted by: Lynn Lee (Dec 9, 2004 1:16pm)

Hi Kevin--

If you wouldn't mind sending me the scans, I could try to put them up someplace....
I'll PM you my email address.

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Posted by: fingerjack (Dec 9, 2004 5:35pm)

Oh for God sakes, some one email me the pics and I will host them right away with a link.

And btw, they are not "Tigers," they are Bicycles.

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Posted by: kaegee (Dec 9, 2004 5:42pm)

These cards are really not that impressive. First becasue of the blue faces they can't really be used for reverses, and the blue on the faces is not consistant.

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Posted by: Lynn Lee (Dec 9, 2004 5:44pm)

At last! Thanks to Kevin.

http://weezer.dartmouth.edu/images/blue1.jpg

http://weezer.dartmouth.edu/images/blue2.jpg

http://weezer.dartmouth.edu/images/blue3.jpg

http://weezer.dartmouth.edu/images/blue4.jpg

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Posted by: Frank Starsini (Dec 9, 2004 6:07pm)

Yawn.....

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Posted by: niva (Dec 10, 2004 9:13am)

Is there also a normal faced card with them, just like in the Black Tiger Deck?

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Posted by: Bill Palmer (Dec 11, 2004 11:05pm)

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On 2004-11-30 17:11, JCaelum wrote:
No - Bikes, Tally's, and Bees are all made by the United States Playing Card co. I think they are all on the same stock, but all have different finishes (i.e., bikes are air-cushion, tally hos are linoid finish, and bees have a cambric finish)

Linoid, Air-Cushion and Cambric are all the same finish. They were different back in the 1950's and 1960's, but now they are the same. The other finish that USPCCo uses is their "Ivory" finish. You used to be able to get ANY USPCCo deck made up on either their rough card stock or their smooth card stock (Linoid vs. Ivory) which several guys used as a way of cutting the aces.

Now, you are lucky if you can get them to center the backs.

There may be a difference in quality control. Tally-Ho is a regional card, mainly for New York. Bikes are pretty much universal. So they print about 100 times as many of them during a run, maybe more.

I've seen a big range of quality in bikes. Tally-Ho's are fairly consistent.

Regarding the Baby Blue decks. Well, they look like they have just been given a "makeover."

And I don't mean by Oprah.

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Posted by: David Franklin (Dec 12, 2004 12:55am)

Well, I certainly think they look interesting. Sort of a blue-print quality. Now if my Target store will just get some of them in stock!

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Posted by: Suave Dan (Dec 12, 2004 1:48am)

I wish I had a Target store here.

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Posted by: AntonDreaming (Dec 13, 2004 4:24am)

Dear Figerjack

These are only being called tigers as a point of reference due to their odd apperance. We all know they are indeed Bikes but they are different then their red, blue counterparts. In regards o the yawn... these are only a matter of taste lay people do seem to find these cards interesting.... Btw they don't seem to feel they are rigged nearly as often as with the black tigers.

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Posted by: zur (Dec 13, 2004 4:53am)

Blue tigers? heh, I have a feeling this black tiger deck thing is only going to be a fad. I mean, its good that the cards fan well and the all black look is new, but after one year, it might just fade away. The "army of 56" gaff cards don't look that good from ellusionist.

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Posted by: Kronos9326 (Dec 13, 2004 3:15pm)

Don't look that good? As compared to... let's see... regular gaffs?

They're the same.

USPC printed, and in some cases, worked on by their artists.

David.

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Posted by: Mercury52 (Dec 15, 2004 7:42pm)

No "special" cards come with as they're not a special deck, besides the color. Only thing is the identical jokers, rather than 2 different ones. I've only seen the blue ones at my local target once, when I bought them. On return visits, they were gone. They did also have some pink ones on a return visit, same idea, only pink instead of light blue. Not a lot of practicality behind them than another deck to add to the collection, or for a red hot mama type effect.

Kevin

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Posted by: Lynn Lee (Dec 15, 2004 8:26pm)

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On 2004-12-08 14:33, fingerjack wrote:
I am a little skeptical that they are the same quality of Bikes. They feel a little thinner and flimsier, plus the blemishes on the faces (which are all blue as well) show up easily (white speckles).

I went and picked up a few decks for myself the other day, and I rather agree--the cards DO feel like they're not as "solid" as regular bikes, like the stock they're on is inferior to the stuff used for their regular cards. They're neat to have in the interests of collecting, but that's really it as far as I can tell.

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Posted by: Danny Diamond (Dec 28, 2004 12:28pm)

I got a couple of these Baby Blues for Christmas. As a deck collector, I think they're a great addition to my collection. For their use in magic, I will say that they have one advantage over Black Tigers - they blend into a normal deck better. I have been doing a simple little gambling routine with them, showing how cards can be marked, and just doing some color changes, and a single Baby Blue blends into a blue-backed normal deck of Bikes, better than the Tigers, I feel, but the color change is just as startling.

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Posted by: Corey Harris (Dec 28, 2004 12:53pm)

I have purchased several of these blue decks and the pink decks. I think they feel fine. And atleast their backs are printed in the center unlike the standard bikes. I have been using a deck for my card routines and ever body loves them. that's just my 2 cents.