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About Posting: Only Registered users can post new topics and replies in this forum Username: Password: I forgot my password! Message: Click Here to review the topic. [quote] On 2006-01-10 20:27, Shikina wrote: Jonathan, I think that everybody here wishes to encourage creative performers to keep doing what they do best: creating magic. However, I feel like the magic community sometimes goes overboard in assigning proprietary status to moves and routines. I learned Eddie Fechter's "Be Honest" from another magician when I was first getting into magic. Though I've never bought a book, or DVD from Mr. Fechter, I continue to perform it. Am I a theif? You may consider me as such, but trust me that I sleep well at night. How much worse off would the world of music be had there been no concept of a "standard" or "traditional" song? How many rock guitarists have played the songs, and even in the style of the performers who preceeded them? Tons- and rock music has thrived because of it. Daegs, while we all respect your committment to integrity, your response to JokersWild borders on the hysterical. Furthermore, I don't believe that you have deduced the method from every well produced demo video you've ever seen. And if you are able to figure out a method for any given video- [b]use it![/b] Perhaps your arrived at method is different from the original. Are you suggesting that you need to pay "the creator" just so you can find out? I buy videos all the time for moves and tricks whose workings I already understand because when someone puts together concise explanations, with attention to subtleties and details, that creates value that I'm willing to pay for. My point is that I pay for value: not strictly methods. As for the argument that this discourages people to put out demo videos- I don't buy it. If your effect can be totally deduced from watching the demo- I'm willing to bet that either other magi have thought of that same effect, or your trick just isn't that convincing. Besides- every magician that ever made a demo video made more money on his product than those that didn't. Why else would Penguin make a demo for [b]everything?[/b] I've seen creators on this forum announce that they wouldn't put out a video to try and prevent theivery. Allright, but on some level I relate to that the same way I do to "annonymous sources" in a newspaper article. Your anonymity might be preserving some great secret. Or you might also be full of it and posting a demo would expose as much. If you want to talk about people who are taking advantage, why not discuss the magical creators who choose to put out 12 effects on three dvds and charge 100 dollars for the honor? [/quote] [HTML is Off] [BBcode is On] Options: Disable BBcode on this Post Disable Smilies on this Post

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