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About Posting: Only Registered users can post new topics and replies in this forum Username: Password: I forgot my password! Message: Click Here to review the topic. [quote] On 2012-04-29 13:49, Steven Youell wrote: Folks, In order to understand a term/phrase, you should go to the source. The originator of the idea "suspension of disbelief" was Samuel Taylor Coleridge. Here's a good definition, in modern English with bold added by me: [quote]The state is arguably an essential element when experiencing any drama or work of fiction. We may [b]know very well that we are watching an actor[/b] or looking at marks on paper, but we willfully accept them as real in order to fully experience what the artist is attempting to convey.[/quote] [b]Please note that we know we're watching an actor WHILE it's going on. When we leave the play, we have no doubt that what we saw is not real. We only [i]suspended[/i] our disbelief in order to become emotionally involved at the time.[/b] It's also important to note that the exact psychological mechanisms that lead humans to do this is darn near impossible to define. After reading all of his posts, I am convinced that although Cirrus [i]might[/i] not understand as much as he thinks he does about theater, his views are *probably* not inconsistent or as wild as we think they are. But of course, he could say the same about me. Instead, I believe that there is a communication problem here, not a complete clash of ideals. This is probably due to a language barrier which Cirrus has already hinted at. Note that he said he performed in a Wizard outfit. That to me, is a very subtle disclaimer to almost anyone. Certainly no one would go beyond suspension of disbelief when they see someone do things while in a wizard costume. [i]If you look closely there is subtext in his posts that lead me to believe we disagree less than we think we do.[/i] It took me several readings of this thread to see the clues and there are several. @Cirrus I think you're mistaken on some things, but as I said above, most of the disagreement here is due to communication errors. So I might have been out of line in accusing you of morality issues. For that I apologize for those specific comments and hope that you agree we might have communication problems here. Additionally I think this is an issue on the edge since we've had a dramatic increase in people taking money under the false pretense of having supernatural abilities. So on some issues we'll have to agree to disagree-- but I don't think we disagree as much as we thought we did. So let's do that and avoid an escalation of negative feelings. OK? SEY [/quote] [HTML is Off] [BBcode is On] Options: Disable BBcode on this Post Disable Smilies on this Post

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