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saturnin Special user Montreal, Canada 964 Posts |
Hi everyone,
I recently juggled in a small magic show I did and I got a very good reaction from it and the funny thing is that is wasn't even planned I simply did it out of the blue (I only did a cascade and a reverse cascade!) So my question is can you expert jugglers out there give me some recommendations on videos (or books) to learn "figures" juggling with 3 balls (like mill mess, swoop, orbit, etc...) and also 4-5 balls? Thanks in advance Ronnie Lemieux Montreal Canada
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Missing_Link Elite user 442 Posts |
Couple of good books:
Encyclopedia of Ball Juggling by Charlie Dancey (Published by Butterfingers, UK) The Complete Juggler by Dave Finnegan, has some tricks for 3, 4 and 5 balls. Beyond the Cascade by George Gillson, has more advanced 3 ball moves 4 Ball Juggling, by Martin Probert, has tones of 4 ball stuff, much of which is derived from siteswap. Most of these, and more, are availale on line from the major juggling retailers like Dube http://www.dube.com Todd Smith, Butterfingers http://www.butterfingers.co.uk and others. For videos, have a look at the Juggling Database http://www.jugglingdb.com which has videos of loads of cool tricks. The links section will take you to most major retailers too. HTH ML |
Paul Jester Special user UK 759 Posts |
Books cost money... but the internet is free... and unlike magic, juggling isn't a big secret, so I suggest you check out these websites: http://hem.passagen.se/mavros/
This site has a fantastic drop down menu, and taught me for a long time Mills Mess may take you a while to learn depending on your level, get down underarm throws, then learn false shower, both ways, then swap direction after every third throw, if you can do that, then you can get MM http://www.jugglemania.net/tricks.asp This site doesn't have so many tricks, but the videos are cool and it has swoop and orbit. http://www.jugglingdb.com/jugglewiki/ And this site I think has everything, and variations on everything, fantastic place As for four and five... well... happy practice Jester :clownjuggling: |
The Village Idiots Elite user Orlando 464 Posts |
Dick Franco also has some good beginner books. I think his clubs book is my favorite. Funny story, last year he was hanging out in our dressing room with an act he was producing. It took us a few days before we realized who it was. THAT'S, Dick Franco!! Cool. Nice guy.
His books are available through Dube I am sure. But, if I only bought one book it would be "The Complete Juggler" Great book recommendation, Missing Link. Books travel better than the internet and are easy to refer to when you are in a park juggling. Sillily, Will
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Missing_Link Elite user 442 Posts |
Dick Franco's 3 Ball Digest is good, but I wouldn't recommend it to a beginner - there aren't many illustrations, and the emphasis is very much on pro performing. Which is great for me, but wouldn't have helped when I first started. It does contain the brilliant section on the head roll, which is such a cool collection of moves.
The Complete Juggler is probably the best bet - and it introduces you to several areas of juggling and manipulation. Ignore the fact that, on the front cover, the author looks very like Ned Flanders from the Simpsons. ML |
CardSharp Regular user Philadelphia 105 Posts |
I would like to recomend "Juggling For The Complete Klutz" It's a great Introduction to juggling. It's How I learned to juggle.
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The Village Idiots Elite user Orlando 464 Posts |
ML
Too funny. Finigan does look like Ned Flanders. He is a bit stuffy like him as well. Great guy, just straight as an arrow. I never noticed the similarity. I think Franco's book would be challenging for a new juggler but it is a 3 ball digest. If that is what you are working on, it would be great. You're right, he would probably need another book with illustrations as well, just to get started. I carried "The complete juggler" around like a bible for many years. It was always in my juggling bag. Shows the wear, but I don't care. It covers almost every prop and has some gags in the back plus refferences to other juggling stuff, like IJA and ...ahh I don't remember, been too long. Just buy it, you won't be let down. Sillily, Will
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Lithix Regular user Tempe, AZ 168 Posts |
I would have to say that The Complete Juggler by Dave Finnegan is definitely the best place to start. It has a wealth of knowledge covering all sorts of tricks with well illustrated, step by step instructions. It also offers a set progression for you to work through and plenty of old vaudevillian gags in the back of the book.
Includes tips for making money juggling and teaching juggling. Often, the best way to fine tune your tricks is to teach them to someone else. I got my copy used at a juggling festival and carried it in my prop sack for years. Eventually, I would also say that the Charlie Dancey books (Encyclopedia of Ball Juggling/Compendium of Club Juggling) are quite comprehensive and would be great additions to your juggling library. You should also check out the Juggling Information Service. http://www.juggling.org |
Missing_Link Elite user 442 Posts |
Oh no - please don't use the gags from the back of the book. They're funny, but only in a "not very, or maybe if I'm drunk" sort of way.
Cheers ML |
Lithix Regular user Tempe, AZ 168 Posts |
If you use your own character and adapt to different audiences - then some of the things can go over pretty well. I'm mainly talking about stuff like catching the apple on the fork and what not. Just the stuff that everyone (jugglers) know but that most regular people don't see all the time.
Actually... now that I think about it... I can't remember any really good examples... and I gave my copy to an aspiring juggler. Hmm... Maybe you're right. |
Jewls Veteran user Michigan-USA 360 Posts |
Jester,
I totally agree the internet has a lot of wonderful juggling resources. Some of the juggling simulators on the net are amazing as well. When you're done with the listed sites, do a google.com search for more. Go to your local library and take a look. I know mine has "The Complete Juggler" and others, they may have a video too. I have been the coordinator of our local juggling club for 10 years, so I would like to encourage you to join a juggling club and practice with them weekly. You will be amazed! The juggling services site listed above will help you find a club and festivals near you. If you know the reverse cascade that breaks down into half shower and jugglers tennis. Work on a fancy start, pauses like the two finger back hand and under the chin, and play up that final big catch! I also use juggling with a magic effects like the Strat O Sphere or Silk Cylinder. Hope this helps.
Jewls
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Alessandro Scotti Loyal user Italy 263 Posts |
Yes, there is plenty to be found on the internet and I even managed to learn some tricks from simulators!
My pick on the books would also be The Complete Juggler and Charlie Dancey's book: there is a huge amount of information and you simply cannot beat his humour. But if you want to take a look at something original, see if you can find a copy of "3B Different Ways", a video shot professionally by a couple of Finnish guys with incredible skill. You should be able to find some demo video (bad quality) on the net. Just an example: they juggle three balls over the head while looking at the camera and smiling...
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Missing_Link Elite user 442 Posts |
That video just melts my head when I see it! Incredible talent.
ML |
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