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goldeneye007 Inner circle London 2423 Posts |
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On 2008-08-30 10:03, KOTAH wrote: I didn't say I was a lawyer... I work as a consultant in a law firm specialised in patent law... That's not the same (I'm an engineer who works with lawyers who work on patents). Great news concerning the dollar-size (hopefully, it will be Morgans!!!)! Let us know! |
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goldeneye007 Inner circle London 2423 Posts |
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On 2008-08-30 10:25, Judah Vee wrote: This also happens to me from time to time, Judah! It's a good sign, usually...means the product is of top quality! |
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Judah Vee Special user of the JV Naughty Vanish.... 884 Posts |
I can honestly say that in the field of magic, I have never had this happen. But it's nice..... I could have saved a lot of money if more Coiners had done this!
I don't care how fast or slow you are.... As long as I am faster.. -J-
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goldeneye007 Inner circle London 2423 Posts |
Oh, yes, indeed!! I wish every dealer did that... To be more precise, it's happened to me maybe once or twice a year these last few years.
Some very respectful dealers (in fact, I only have one in mind) offer that you return them the items in case they do not please you or you think you won't use them. And then, some dealers offer the same thing on specific items. That's great! |
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Jeff O Loyal user 274 Posts |
To all those dollar size skeptics (he he): It may not just be that the half dollar size is too small to see (each to his own, though), but that dollar size coins seems so huge to many laymen that "there is no possible way that he could have done that with those huge coins!"
At least that is my philosophy, and I'm sticking to it. |
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goldeneye007 Inner circle London 2423 Posts |
Very true. A good point, Jeff O.
That's also why I exclusively use dollar size coins when I do coin magic. When you vanish huge coins for ex, it's more impressive than vanishing smaller coins... even if, for us, there's no difference. |
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KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
Gentlemen, a question if I may. Years ago, I took internal parts down by hand; 400 button inserts for 200 sets of my Ultimate Cigarette through Half.
At the time, David Roth said the coin offered the best of both worlds; being shown front and back before, during and after the effect. Do you feel it was more impressive to a lay audience than a cigarette through quarter, or would it have been more impressive if I had done it in dollar size? No matter really because this discussion has resulted in some interesting contacts by some equally interesting names in magic. I look forward to your comments. Ronald Dayton |
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KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
Gentlemen, again, the original Opium Coin got its name due to a story line routine that went with the effect. In brief, it told of the great opium wars in china and of how the Government dealt with those trading in it. Execution on the public square. A single bullet through the brain, which some believe is symbolized by the single hole in the center of the nation's coin.
Food for thought, or the bizarrist story teller if nothing else. Kotah |
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goldeneye007 Inner circle London 2423 Posts |
I must admit you have a point here, Kotah. If you also use the Opium Coins for the cigarette through quarter (or half dollar), the coin doesn't need to be that big because it's mainly for real close up (you're already limited by the size of the cigarette)...
But if, like me, you use it mainly for the impossible transformation half-dollar into Chinese coin, which is incredibly convincing because of the hole, then the size of the coin can matter because it may be performed for a larger audience. Don't take it like an attack (really it isn't), but performing the cigarette through coin effect AND THEN showing that there is a hole in the coin (ok, ok, it also changed...) is a tiny little bit anticlimactic... Of course the coin has a hole in it because you just pushed a cigarette through it... See what I mean? Some people might even think they haven't seen the effect very well, and you just swapped coins at the beginning... Having a bigger coin would prevent people from thinking this. What I like most is really the transformation. But for the original routine, of course, the half-dollar or quarter size is perfect. Just my opinion. |
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KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
Goldeneye, I don't take what you said as an attack. I asked for your opinion, and that of any others who wished to chime in. You did, and I thank you for your addition input.
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Jeff O Loyal user 274 Posts |
Why not make a Sharpie through dollar coin then? Cr*p. . .just lost the rights.
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goldeneye007 Inner circle London 2423 Posts |
Thanks, Ron. The transformation using the Opium Coins is really awesome! One of the best coin transformation I've seen so far...
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Joshua Barrett Inner circle Cincinnati, Ohio 3631 Posts |
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On 2008-08-29 16:06, goldeneye007 wrote: I can understand that in parlor. That's why I would not do it in parlor, just like I wouldn't do color-changing knives or any other close-up trick. There is no sense doing coin tricks just to be doing coin tricks if they don't fit the venue. |
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goldeneye007 Inner circle London 2423 Posts |
Yes, sure!
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Mark Rough Inner circle Ivy, Virginia 2110 Posts |
Mine are sitting at the post office as we speak. I'll have them by 4:00 or so this afternoon. Very excited!
What would Wavy do?
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Mark Rough Inner circle Ivy, Virginia 2110 Posts |
Hey folks, I just got these and posted a review in the review area (duh). I like 'em!
Mark
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Judah Vee Special user of the JV Naughty Vanish.... 884 Posts |
Got mine today....Great quality!!!! They also match the coins on elmwood or hocus pocus, pretty closely!!! I like them !!!!
I should also mention the way they were Packaged and sent to me: IN a small clear box, with a CUSTOM molded foam insert to hold them safely. Kudos to them again....
I don't care how fast or slow you are.... As long as I am faster.. -J-
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Rick11 Loyal user 298 Posts |
I'm wondering what is the difference between the new verison and the old version? Would the new version be different than those currently sold on Ebay?
Rick |
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Starromeo Regular user 134 Posts |
The chinese coin in the new version looks 10 times better than the old version. At least , it looks like a "coin".
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Mark Rough Inner circle Ivy, Virginia 2110 Posts |
Also, the gimmick is the tails side of the half dollar, which makes it much harder to see. The Sasco version used the head side and was about as obvious as a fox in the henhouse.
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