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George50 New user Lancaster CA 60 Posts |
What is the name and who makes the set of Sidewalk Shuffle with non gaffed jumbo cards?
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Uli Weigel Inner circle Berlin, Germany 1478 Posts |
Joe Riding's "The Only Three Card Trick In The World - Using Four Cards" which was originally marketed by Ken Brooke with additional handling/routining by Fred Kaps. In the US this trick is available through Stevens Magic Emporium.
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jimgerrish Inner circle East Orange, NJ 3209 Posts |
It is also available from The Wizards' Journal #22 in a "Do-It-Yourself" version where you can print out your own cards to use, or simply buy two duplicate decks of cards in your choice of size and style.
Jim Gerrish
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ShirtlessKirk Loyal user 236 Posts |
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Paul Inner circle A good lecturer at your service! 4409 Posts |
Bob King was the first to do an ungaffed version of Sidewalk shuffle with blanks and an AS in the early nineties. I believe he sold it, but it may also have been in lecture notes. His routine closely followed the Sidewalk Shuffle presentation.
The Joe Riding effect predates it but doesn't use blanks (though it could if you wish). From a lay point of view the effect is pretty much the same if they were to describe it to someone. Ken Brooke sold Joe's effect and later "Sidewalk Shuffle". Martin Lewis sent it him and he showed little interest in it (probably because Joe's effect was a popular item)until Fred Kaps showed interest in it and offered a few tips. He then marketed "Sidewalk Shuffle" with extra large cards, and Joe's effect took a back seat. In Joe's routine the spectators think they see the full faces of the cards but they cannot be spread. In Martin's routine the cards can be spread out which some may feel more natural. The cards still couldn't be examined after with Joe's as the situation is not as it appears. Both are relatively easy to do, I've used both over the years, Sidewalk is fractionally simpler to learn, but they are not routines you can leave and go back to and expect to remember. When Bob came up with his version it was really as a 'magician fooler'. Sidewalk Shuffle was a very popular effect at the time with lots of magicians doing it so at lectures and conventions everyone thought that was what Bob was doing. They were so far down the garden path at the conclusion many were fried. Both effects seem to have been re-invented a few times as packet effects with regular cards but work better as stand up pieces. In a stand up show you're not going to hand the cards out anyway. With regular sized cards there are just so many 'three card trick' options these days. John Luka's "Michigan Monte" is also described in his book "Uncovered". Here's a clip of Mike Ammar doing "Virginia City Shuffle" (you'll notice John Luka and Martin lewis and Louis Falanga are credited). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6bEDDmXNt0 Here's a nice presentation by George Bradley of a similar thing (also marketed). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfP-dkRMMdQ I adapted Joe's routine to blanks and a regular card for my own personal close up use and recall doing it that way for close up in the early seventies. |
Merc Man Inner circle NUNEATON, Warwickshire 2537 Posts |
Paul - spot on with your Joe Riding and Ken Brooke information.
Just to add that before Ken died, he sent Joe an audio tape stating that Joe's trick was the best selling item ever during his time at his shop at 145 Wardour Street. Just to add that Ken never liked Sidewalk Shuffle for one reason - in his view, there was far too much picking up/putting down of cards from the table. Joe Riding's version (originally called 'The Irish Three Card Trick') was more of an in the hands worker - so much so that Joe always used it in cabaret. In later years, he also came up with a much more convincing false count to perform whilst standing. An Elmsley Count with jumbo cards just doesn't look convincing - and has multiple angle problems to overcome if working on a stage or cabaret floor. Joe Riding quite possibly brought out more commercial magic with Jumbo Cards than anyone else that I can remember. Odd One Out, Jumbo Jets, The Trick You Can See Thru to name but a few. He also actually produced a jumbo card trick for Tommy Cooper; but this was never used by Tommy on TV. It was basically a homing card effect, with the odd-backed coloured Jumbo continually returning to the performer's hand. I still have the typed manuscript for it and it is a darn sight more entertaining than most of the dross hitting the market these days!
Barry Allen
Over 14 years have passed - and still missing Abra Magazine arriving every Saturday morning. |
Uli Weigel Inner circle Berlin, Germany 1478 Posts |
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On 2013-06-05 03:13, Merc Man wrote: I'd like to learn more about this alternative false count. |
Paul Inner circle A good lecturer at your service! 4409 Posts |
Re: "Just to add that Ken never liked Sidewalk Shuffle for one reason - in his view, there was far too much picking up/putting down of cards from the table. "
The odd card can be placed behind the lapel and anchored in the jacket breast pocket as is often done with Joe's effect. Paul. |
Merc Man Inner circle NUNEATON, Warwickshire 2537 Posts |
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On 2013-06-05 06:08, Paul wrote: It can indeed Paul - albeit Joe moved on to using a very large paper clip as, in his latter years, he wore a shirt and waistcoat. Ken, as you probably remember, was often kitted out in shirt, tie and a cardigan. Maybe the reason Ken never appeared to push Sidewalk Shuffle much was because he much preferred 'Chase The Ace'. If you remember him demming this (as I'm sure you will) he made the trick a work of art. I do remember him saying that his favourite Close-Up packet trick was Wild Man Wild; whilst he also adored The Egg Bag. My word, could he 'work' that beautiful egg bag routine. When I think back to Ken, and bear in mind I was only in my teens at the time, EVERY single dem was delivered as if he was doing a spot at the bloody Palladium. There has never been, nor do I think there ever will be, a magical demonstrator to fill Ken's shoes. Yes of course we have the hard-nosed salesmen within magic that can earn a few quid - but with Ken, there was never that pushy, hard sale. The main difference is that after every (and I mean EVERY) dem from Ken, you hadn't just watched an effect - you'd been part of an absolutely brilliant piece of magical entertainment. You also knew, beyond any doubt, that he would NEVER put you wrong with a recommendation. He'd actually refuse point blank to sell you something if he thought it was beyond your capabilities and/or just not right for your individual style. When God created Ken Brooke, he truly thereafter broke the mould.
Barry Allen
Over 14 years have passed - and still missing Abra Magazine arriving every Saturday morning. |
bobbyk Special user Florida 683 Posts |
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On 2013-05-16 10:19, Paul wrote: Bob Kings' "Four Card Monte" is really amazing. I've been performing it for well over 20 years now. I don't know if its still available but if you can get your hands on the instruction sheet, read it and learn this Monte routine. Its very easy and is a real fooler. Uses one bXXXK Card and 3 -AS…. SO wearing it out isn't an issue as the needed cards are easily replaced. I probably have gone thru 5 or 6 sets over the years. It's my favorite Monte routine. Not saying it's necessarily the Strongest routine….but if you're looking for a routine that is within the reach of any card worker with minimal skill…from beginner to pro & gets a strong reaction…try this out, if you can locate it. Best, Bk |
The great Gumbini Inner circle 3062 Posts |
In Martin Lewis handling in his new version with bigger cards you don't lay the cards down. In fact you put one "blank" card under your arm as you do the shuffle. Its very easy and feels so natural. Hope that helps.
Good magic to all, Eric |
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