A LOT, or most, of coin magicians have many hours invested in this study. And as you study this, you know it's all about the little details, past and present ones. The past ones to get you thinking like a magician, and the present ones to see if one can better the masters.

By chance, Lassen is all about the details as well, and it appears he has come up with something that may be deemed a significant improvement. In that, it will make the entire routine more natural in appearance, greatly adds to ease of performance, and increases the visual deceptiveness of the entire routine.

As this gets out to the workers, I think you may see a whole new level of re-inspiration, creativity, and performance of the Ramsay classic. It deserves it, JMHO, the routine is entirely baffling in it's simplest form. And I believe that is the direction we are headed with these new props and old routine.

Will be waiting with bated breath to see how this develops.

I'm on the short list to get the walking liberty set. Can't wait.

Hey, if it helps make the tough parts easier and the sneaky parts better - count me in

My set just shipped, can't wait to get it....

Hope it's under 10 bucks

A toilet paper roll is under 2 bucks. And you can use it with those gold foil covered chocolate coins.

Where is this available

Not quite $10, multiply it by 45.....

Send Todd an email, but more than likely the first production run is all sold....

As a professional magician recently mentioned here: "The more you know, the less you need on stage." A cylinder, wand, Ramsay stack, and 4 silver dollars works well enough for me.

With all due respect Leo, what is your point?

I think you are saying there is no need to check out anything new, if you have an old way that works for you.

Yes, wisdom is the ultimate prize, but since when did the wise start NOT welcoming new innovations, new ideas, beautifully made props? This is edging on fuddy-duddiness and a sour grapes theme.

A cyllinder, corks, and Ramsey stack are the offerings, it does not include your other simple props of wand and extra silver dollars. So that is not really like offering MORE un-necessities for your stage act, that you don't need with all your wisdom, it is simply an improvement on one of the props in the routine. It adds no bulk whatsoever. It adds finesse to the routine and takes away nothing, so I guess my question would be, why turn this into a negative, or a why bother? And speaking of the plain old 4 silver dollars. Many great magicians have altered this aspect of the props as well. Geoff Latta used a 3 coin nest. Some use the Triple Threat. Conover used a 3 coin nest. Can't recall, Roth may have used a shell. The name whose name will not be mentioned, used 2 mag coins and a shell, and I think quite a few actually went to vanishing just 3 coins and using a 3 coin stack, for no other reason than to make the routine easier. And speaking of the plain old 4 silver dollars. Many great magicians have altered this aspect of the props as well. Geoff Latta used a 3 coin nest. Some use the Triple Threat. Conover used a 3 coin nest. Can't recall, Roth may have used a shell. The name whose name will not be mentioned, used 2 mag coins and a shell, and I think quite a few actually went to vanishing just 3 coins and using a 3 coin stack, for no other reason than to make the routine easier.

Most that have studied this routine will admit it was originally for the wisdom, to experience Ramsey's approach to the vanish of the 4 coins, with all the feints and tricks he used to confuse magicians. It is a lesson indeed. Surely the use of gaffus, to make the vanishing of the 4 coins coins much easier, would do more to rob the individual/student of the wisdom required to do the original routine. I mean, in comparison to a cylinder and stack, that simply makes the shows more believable and natural, without much altering of your established handling for the routine. And speaking of the plain old 4 silver dollars. Many great magicians have altered this aspect of the props as well. Geoff Latta used a 3 coin nest. Some use the Triple Threat. Conover used a 3 coin nest. Can't recall, Roth may have used a shell. The name whose name will not be mentioned, used 2 mag coins and a shell, and I think quite a few actually went to vanishing just 3 coins and using a 3 coin stack, for no other reason than to make the routine easier.

Most that have studied this routine will admit it was originally for the wisdom, to experience Ramsey's approach to the vanish of the 4 coins, with all the feints and tricks he used to confuse magicians. It is a lesson indeed. Surely the use of gaffus, to make the vanishing of the 4 coins coins much easier, would do more to rob the individual/student of the wisdom required to do the original routine. I mean, in comparison to a cylinder and stack, that simply makes the shows more believable and natural, without much altering of your established handling for the routine.

And with new props to inspire, maybe some of the coin greats will man up and start vanishing 4 real coins again. This is where Leo's "the more you know" comes in, not balking at an improved cylinder and stack.

I found this video on youtube using the Ramsey Stack. Is this the basic or common routine often done with this gaffus?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0BNO_2xjGs

You articulated exactly what I meant to say. Not a negative as you implied, but bemusement at the advancing coin gaff technology. I still don't know what Lassen's improvements are. The cylinder seems to be made out of delrin material for a better grip?

Leo H I think he made the coin gaff with the ability to spread almost openly instead of just a static stack of coins with a hole at the bottom to hide the cork.

Ah--thanks webtech! It seems to be an advancement that maintains the spirit of Ramsay. I understand he eschewed gaffed coins, or at least to some degree. A performance of the Cylinder and Coins that is true to Ramsay's version is more like a history lesson.[

I like Carney's strategy of pretending to even out the static static.

Yea He worked This Out A year or so Ago!!! And Is Just Now getting Around To putting Them out! I got one When He was just playing With Them! And Gave him My thoughts On It. That he Has Put Into it. I have Worked 2-3 Handleings For it!

This looks all too obvious as to what is going on in the video. Very expensive gaffs for such a mediocre trick. Am I being too cynical on this?

I'n not sure the guy in the video above is using Todd's new gear for the cylinder and coins.


Here is a slightly better example of why the cylinder and coins can be a superb piece of magic, in the right hands. Over to John Carney:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2kdJE6b3eA

Mediocre Trick??? Ramsey KILLED With it!!! That where He Got His Name!!! I have A Friend Who Does It all the Time At Tables And it Kills Layman! Have you ever Done it For People ???

Ok. Calm down Mr. Neighbors. The other YouTube video was much better. Definitely a routine you need to put lots of time into.