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kardillusions Special user Calgary, AB 541 Posts |
Hey guys,
This is a short video of a weird idea I've been playing with off and on for the past 8 or 9 years that I think I've finally figured out what to do with. It's not actually a prediction, but it kind of is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFduSbPqSNo I'd be very happy to get your input. Scott. |
Rachmaninov Inner circle 1076 Posts |
Hi Scott,
It is a nice idea. Perfectly executed. To show it, now you need to work on the presentation. |
RealityOne Loyal user 227 Posts |
Coin guys shouldn't be allowed to play with cards. Well done, Scott.
~David
Any perception of reality is a selection of reality which results in a distortion of reality. |
MeetMagicMike Inner circle Gainesville Fl 3501 Posts |
Cool trick, nice presentation, well executed.
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kardillusions Special user Calgary, AB 541 Posts |
Thanks Everyone!
I have a question surrounding this routine, actually. I believe that pulling something out of a purse frame almost always points to the method (ie: Palming something in the hands before it's produced), and that it's important to have shown empty hands as best as you are able to first, to make the production more magical. This is why I chose to use this method to produce the red card from the purse after showing the hands empty, and no red cards in sight. However, this trick would be infinitely easier to do if I could just palm the odd-backed card off of the bottom of the deck, and then pull it through the frame without the display of empty hands. So I suppose what I would like to know is whether or not the display of empty hands is convincing enough, fooling enough, and adds enough mystery to the routine to make all the hassle of doing it this way "worth it". Any thoughts? |
MeetMagicMike Inner circle Gainesville Fl 3501 Posts |
The method shown fooled me initially because as a magician I understood how you got the card until I realized it was red. Then I had to watch again and think about it. I'm still not sure how you reliably "get two" if that makes sense.
So, I think to fool magicians the shown method is much superior. For a lay audience it's probably still superior but the difference might not be as great. |
jacobsw New user London 67 Posts |
I agree with Magic Mike.
I think the display of empty hands is pretty convincing. And I personally think the showing of the hands is essential -- otherwise, as you say, palming seems like the obvious answer. I think for a really naive lay audience, who doesn't know palming exists, you could get away with your easier method, but I think this way is probably worth the hassle. |
RealityOne Loyal user 227 Posts |
Scott:
I still can't figure this one out after watching it several times. Yeah, I know the card was palmed but I keep asking myself, "When?" "From Where?' and most importantly "How?" Doesn't Darwin Ortiz say that a lay person if fooled only if they cannot figure out any part of the method and a magician is fooled if they can't figure out every part of the method? Based on that criteria, this fools lay people and magicians.
~David
Any perception of reality is a selection of reality which results in a distortion of reality. |
kardillusions Special user Calgary, AB 541 Posts |
Nice!
I think I'll keep it as is, then. Not to tip the method completely, David, but I am 100% sure that MeetMagicMike has it figured out, since he questioned how I reliably "get two" If anyone is curious about how this routine evolved, here's a very short video of this effect performed in 2008... almost ten years ago, and it was much more of a "gag", throwaway trick at the time. I like to think I improved it since then (Cameraman credit goes to awesome magician Chris Mayhew, and we were hanging out in the Vanishing Rabbit Magic Shop in Calgary, AB Canada) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhqzL4EC1Nk Thanks everyone, Scott. |
JG New user 44 Posts |
Very nicely done; here's my opinion for what it's worth.
If I was still doing close up competitions, I would consider doing it this way, including the 'get 2', as I could control the potentially difficult angles. Michael Ammar once said that the way to impress magicians is either do something that they can't do, or do something that they can but much better. This fits that. However, if Table Hopping, I would do the much 'simpler' version and wouldn't worry about the spectators analysing the purse frame. So as ever, there isn't one right way; the answer is, as always, 'it depends'.
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ThomasJ Special user Chicago 999 Posts |
Cool idea, but do you think this is stronger than doing Paperclipped with an odd back?
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kardillusions Special user Calgary, AB 541 Posts |
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On Mar 30, 2017, ThomasJ wrote: It's hard to compare the two. Paperclipped doesn't have a production as its main effect. They share the same basic presentational framework, though. As for what's stronger, I think that might depend on the magician. Scott. |
Mike Powers Inner circle Midwest 2983 Posts |
I like it! Very good thinking.
Mike
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