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James F Inner circle Atlanta 1096 Posts |
I recently bought Card Fictions by Pit Hartling. He has an interesting routine that is a take on Reflex by Paul Harris. It requires loading a folded card under a spectators watch. I have absolutely no experience in doing anything like this. How do I even go about practicing something like this? I figure if I tell my girlfriend what Im doing, she will feel it. So anyone who does these kinds of things, can you offer any advice on this? Its hard to imagine how the spectator wont feel this, but I know its somewhat common and does actually work. How do I work up to performing this?
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marc_carrion Special user 639 Posts |
Hi James, I have never performed it, but I had it performed for me, and I can tell you that I did not feel the card going under my watch at all. I would say you practice it by doing it start with other magicians, but don't tell them what you are doing, that's what they did to me, and I got totally fooled.
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arthur stead Inner circle When I played soccer, I hit 1773 Posts |
If it helps any, Oz Pearlman has a Coin Under Watch DVD:
http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/1920 And you can also get it as an instant download: http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/1913 |
Allyc4t New user NJ 9 Posts |
This is a fairly common thing, but if watch steals work as well as they do, I cannot imagine this being that unfeasible. I'd advise trying to divert their attention to something far from their wrist, maybe even grabbing their opposite shoulder, it's hard to notice multiple points of contact if one is subtler than the others.
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puggo Inner circle 2022 Posts |
James Brown has quite a bit of work on this.
A couple of tips from me, (although I don't claim to be an expert!): -If you feel awkward doing it, then that may well register with the participant. -Check if the watch appears to be really tight, or if the participant is really sweaty - this will make it harder. -Consider putting a good bend & fold in the card. -Practice on yourself purely so you get the feel of orientation e.g. not 'stabbing' the participant with the sharp corner (the corner in the middle of the card). -Consider your direction of attention and audience management e.g. make physical contact first, have a reason for going to their hands and remember that you can create verbal and physical stimulus to occupy their attention. -Use time misdirection. -Finally, be open to getting caught, but if you do, 'don't care'! James Brown talks about this in the 'Wrongless approach' and Oz mentions it on the coin under watch DVD. -Watch various performances of it e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYjeiIWFi00 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf4xt04wAvo etc. to get a feel for framing the effect/undertaking the load. It's a great revelation. Okay, one more thing - coin on shoulder or other body loading will help you get used to working in people's personal space. Good luck Charlie |
James F Inner circle Atlanta 1096 Posts |
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On Jun 1, 2017, puggo wrote: These are some great tips! The second performance is actually the trick I am currently working on so that was really nice. Thanks to everyone who commented so far! |
ULockJustice Loyal user Columbus, OH 201 Posts |
Jon Armstrong has some work on this as well in his At The Table lecture.
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Neznarf Inner circle NY then AZ now 1840 Posts |
Magician did it to Ellen on her show.
Not sure which one. The first time I tried it I did not get busted and have not gotten busted as yet. I was surprised I got away with it. Checking out the OZ instructions is a good thing. He is a king when it comes to anything magic.
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James F Inner circle Atlanta 1096 Posts |
So basically I have read everyone's ideas on here. I have told my magician friend that I need to practice it and we are going to work on it. Even though he will feel the load because he knows its coming, we can at least practice the routine and motions so its a smooth as possible when I actually perform it. Then I will try it on close friends and family a few times without telling them what will happen. Hopefully that will work out and I can go ahead and try it in the real world. Thanks for all the advice. If anyone else has anything to offer I would love to hear it.
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pixsmith Regular user 184 Posts |
Norman Beck, who I believe is credited with the original idea of placing a card under a spectator's watch, offers some great insight on the work in both the Genii article in the May 199 issue as well as his Penguin lecture. I haven't really seen it done any better.
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lxsim9 New user 4 Posts |
Without revealing anything, I first did the card under watch with angle Z by Daniel Madison and then transitioned to a folded card under watch after I felt more comfortable
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