Where is the earliest publication of an oil and water routine that ends with the whole deck separated?

Related Q: When is the earliest version of an oil and water routine where you let the spectator give the deck a shuffle and it still finishes with the deck separated?

Yehuda

Allan Ackerman has a very nice routine that meets these requirements. The spec shuffles the deck. Then the magi removes 8 cards, four red and four black. An oil and water ensues. At the end the deck is also separated into reds and blacks.

The routine was originally in "Here's My Card" which is OOP. I'm not sure if it subsequently made it into other of Allan's publications.


Mike

Thanks Mike. Any other comments anyone?

Yehuda

I'm just going by my memory of the trick but If you trust the spectators shuffles , "Out of this Universe" does this with a little adjustment.

I don't know from first.

-Mary Mowder

I was wondering when someone (with knowledge!) would mention my Out Of This Universe - in which the spectator shuffles about five or six times, etc.

Isn't Out of this Universe an OOTW plot? meaning that the spectator separates the cards and at the end they had separated the colors? I have 'Impromptu OOTW' in Lorayne's 'My favorite Card Tricks'. I think the original question in this thread was about Oil and Water, so the colors would be showed to be mixed red/black/red/black/etc... and then as if per magic, they separate into red and blacks, but not with the spectator calling the colors.

Marc

It sounds like you're after something specific in a historical sense here. Is that the case? As in, the 'first' such routines? Or more: what are some good ones?