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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
I purchased TurboCad Designer 2D/3D, Ver.7 by IMSI. It came with Coral OCR trace 7. I can scan and trace, but then what, I can't get it to the CAD program. And the help files do not help at all.
I also purchased BeckerCad by Data Becker a German company. It says you can scan and import but have not been able to make it work yet. |
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Thomas Wayne Inner circle Alaska 1977 Posts |
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On 2004-05-20 22:24, wmhegbli wrote: OCR Trace should allow you to save (or "export") the converted drawing as a .dxf file. TurboCad should allow you to open (or "import") the resulting .dxf file. As for "dimensions", they WILL be converted into vector art, but since they can still be read it should be but a moment's task to re-dimension the drawing within the CAD system itself. Vector optimization programs allow you to "crunch" a traced drawing - utilizing user-set variables to make straight lines straight and curves become arcs. The software exists; I use it almost daily. Of course, my CAD software alone cost more than $13,000... Regards, Thomas Wayne
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angeloturn New user 59 Posts |
Yep, mee too. I drawevery thing out FULL SIZE in Autocad before I take a piece of wood to the lathe. Most of the work I'e been doing lately calls forvery tight tolerances. Difficult to do on a wood lathe, I might add.
Once the Cad drawing are done I plot and cut out the templates and use these to turn to shape. MAJIC BRAND
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tropicalpenguin Veteran user 396 Posts |
YAY LIGHTWAVE USERS!!!!
Seriously, I have always thought about doing this, but never got the chance to, mostly due to lack of plans. Lightwave is excellent for not only modelling your illusion, but it is also awesome for animating it so you can get a good idea of angles and lighting and things like that all before you get it.
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tboehnlein Inner circle ohio 1787 Posts |
WOW!! very informative thread, I remember in 1980 I asked my architectual design prof. if we would ever see computer aided design in architecture(I do not think CAD was a commonly heard term at the time)he said no way architecture is too conceptual it would never happen, he thought it would require a computer to have artificial intelligence(again not the term he used but the ideal)you have to remember at that time when doing fortran & cobalt programming we were using key cards. Picture yourself walking around a several sq. mile campus carrying several 2ft boxes filled with these things.Man what a drag it is getting old....I gues I should have put that in quotes huh.
Angeloturn anywhere on the net we can see your work your avatar looks interesting. |
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MagicalPirate Special user Shamokin, PA 828 Posts |
I've never got the hang of CAD. Got my training with a Tsquare, scale ruler and you just hand lettered no guides. It was in Junior High, so it might not have been till later that they got fancier stuff.
I have designed in Corel Draw, does that count. GuySavoie: Do you fly-through animate your assistant too so that you are sure she will fit when done. I had always thought that was the reason for the cardboard mockups. Martin
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constantine Regular user Memphi, on the Mighty Muddy 189 Posts |
You may have
Quote: You may already have the instructions.Many of the programs save money by includind the instrutions as a .pdf file included in the software,you get to print it out and pay for the ink and paper.On 2004-05-20 03:35, wmhegbli wrote:
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NFox Inner circle I Do Mentalism Now?! 1101 Posts |
I use Rhino 3d for 3-dimensional conceptual work, but before I ever get close to that I go through plenty of paper, with plenty of math, and architect's ruler, t-square, compass, and various other "old school" tools. I find that working through all of the paper-based work gives me a head strt into creating the 3D model.
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Chance Wolf Inner circle 2425 Posts |
I have the classic old school background with many years designing with the old mechanical pencil, sanding pad, drafting machine etc. However, today I begin with pencil and paper roughing out ideas until it all seems good then take it all to Corel Draw 10 and complete the design from all angles. I never really have no need for the time consuming 3-D phase as you can really get most of your answers by studying the design from the basic angles ( in most cases).....plus I have no time to learn all the fancy 3-D programs. I prefer to just get to it and make the darn thing.
Chance
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George Ledo Magic Café Columnist SF Bay Area 3042 Posts |
I'll agree with the last two posts. In my work (theatrical design), I start out with a sketch pad (sometimes literally the back of an envelope) and conceptualize the thing until I know what it is. Only then do I go to AutoCAD for the details.
Funny thing is, I've "sold" a lot of set designs to directors by sketching them out on bar napkins after an initial production meeting -- only to discover later how close the final set was to the sketch.
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tropicalpenguin Veteran user 396 Posts |
I go to a High school that is centered around Design and Technology. One of our required classes is Digital Modeling, rendering and Animation. This means that all year, we learn 3d modelling. And like the above posts have said, I still do extensive work before I even log on to my computer. Measurements are taken and sketches are drawn of the final render. This helps you to get the best idea as to how to model your illusion. And what modelling your illusion before building it will do is it will let you get a good idea of angles involved, the feaseability of your illusion in your show, or it can even let you figure out how you wanna paint it. Now, a decent CAD program can be anywhere from 100 bucks to 400+ for a good one. It may be expensive, but to me, it is well worth it
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angeloturn New user 59 Posts |
From what I am told AutoCad is the "latin" of drafting programs but once you got it, then your imagination is the limit.
I, too, was trined as an architect in the days of pencils and sandpaper pads. I still have them, in fact. I use them for idea sketching (a process I learned in Art School) Once the idea is "fleshed" out then I draw it full size....keep in mind all of the stuff I've done to date fits in your hands. Once that is refined I'll go to the computer with it. I find the computer very useful (besides the obvious) beacuse once the original design is inout I can manipulate size and proportion very easily. For instance, once I've developed the parts for a 2" ball vase parts for a 3 " ball vase are only a percent increase away! I also can archive the old stuff and keep the new refreshed version handy and can go back to see where things came from and how they developed over time. peace out
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts |
Incredible...
And to think I just use Paint to draw my designs on the computer. Incredible...
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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kregg Inner circle 1950 Posts |
Computer software is wonderful tool. When I am commissioned to build furniture I'm ashamed to say that I never sketch or use CAD. My designs usually go straight from my mind or measurements to the piece. I suffer from drawing dyslexia.
However, I have found software that allows me to estimate sheet goods for cutting schedules a great way to save in materials. Kregg
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GuySavoie Loyal user Tampa, FL 242 Posts |
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On 2004-08-12 19:45, MagicalPirate wrote: Hi Martin - Actually, I don't add assistants. I don't think that would be really useful with my time. I tend to visualize my prototypes with the concept of body "cubes" (as in trunk, head, arms, upper legs, lower legs) and work with dimensions that I have had success with in the past. I rely on the excellent James Hodges illusion books as a reference to the various body positions as well. The 3D flythroughs are a great way for me to visualize color schemes, overall effects of lighting, the visual results of various designs to minimize the appearance of thinness and thickness, and sometimes, to check the visuals from bad viewing angles. --- Guy EDIT: I've uploaded an example from a couple of months ago. I was considering the "Tubed Out" by Tilford Illusions for a very different kind of presentation. For my needs, it would need to be custom built to dimensions for my body and some additional "storage." So, I figured out the dimensions, and I put this animation together to get a quick view of it. Please note that I will leave this animation on my website until at least October 31st, 2004. http://www.stagetwomagic.com/tubed.avi (2,313k, encoded with DivX, available through www.divx.com) |
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Dr_Stephen_Midnight Inner circle SW Ohio, USA 1555 Posts |
AutoCAD is indeed a wonder.
My primary occupation is technical writing, and I have used AutoCAD for many a mechanical exploded view. This tool is great both for building plans and for operational illustrations. Steve
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