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Musashi Regular user Oregon 132 Posts |
I am interested in bringing up my skill and knowledge level to where I can perform in a restaurant/bar strolling kinda' arena. I have "Royal Road" and "Modern Coin Magic" and "Mark Wilson", what I would like to know is what are a good foundation of routines to get started with....to master.
I know one of the first replies will be "Sponge balls" and I will be looking into this shortly, but (hopefully) specific routines would be appriciated! Thanks again for all the friendly input! It is nice to know that such a supportive group of Professionals exist to help us fledgling magicians!!!!
"Care for a Jelly Baby?"
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steve proescher Regular user Virginia Beach 147 Posts |
I don't have experience performing... know that up front. But I have seen some great videos I think could help.
Doc Eason has a 3 volume set on Bar Magic. Practically everything on the vids are strong, and Doc does a super job of explaining. You'll get to see a true pro in action. You may also enjoy Carl Andrews "No Jacket Required", and Scotty York's tapes. Good luck, and keep us posted on your progress. |
preston91 Regular user clearwater,fl 186 Posts |
Boy where to start! There are many sources for routines.
Free routines can be found at allmagic.com thelearnedpig.com.pa, on-linevisions.com, coinvanish.com and others. There are several folks right here at the Café that are full time magicians that sell books containing routines suitable for restaurant/bar venues. I have bought books from Scott Guinn, Peter Marucci and Geoff Williams and all are very good. They are all also very willing to answer questions about anything magical. There are also several others here at the Café as well. Peter has lecture notes called "Bar Magic served up by Peter Marucci" that is ideal for learning the bar business. Videos: Doc Eason's bar magic video 3 tape set. They are great! Lots of great routines but more importantly, he discusses what it takes to be a bar magician. Buy all 3, you won't regret it. That should get ya going. There are lots of threads here at the Café that cover this type of magic, just look around. One other piece of advice if you're new to magic. Before you run out and buy a bunch of commercial tricks, check out the reviews in the forum "the good, the bad and the garbage". Talk to someone who actually has the effect and see if it's all it's cracked up to be. Many items that look impressive just aren't suitable for a restaurant worker. I'm no expert by any means, but I have bought a whole drawer full of junk!!! Hope this helps. Paul |
Peter Marucci Inner circle 5389 Posts |
A foundation of routines?
Coins: Coins across or Gadabout Coins (both in Bobo, at some length). Cards: Hofzinser Aces, Card Sandwich* Other: Cut and restored rope (Wilson), Professor's Nightmare. There are six tricks, and with those you can work just about anywhere -- provided you have them mastered. *My favorite card sandwich routine is my Holmes and Watson, which appeared in the Linking Ring magazine some years back. If you are (or anyone else is) interested, e-mail me and I'll gladly send you the routine and handling. cheers, Peter Marucci :wavey: |
p.b.jones Inner circle Milford Haven. Pembrokeshire wales U.K. 2642 Posts |
I would like to recommend "Real world magic"
By Jerry MacGregor It is specifically about working in real conditions as opposed to at home or for other magicians It is half advice half strong routines. Phillip |
Magicman0323 Special user Just outside parts unknown. 713 Posts |
I think you started in the right place, not only with the books you already have, but coming into the Magic Café.
Might I ask what branch of magic interests you the most?
You'll wonder when I'm coming, you'll wonder even more when I'm gone. - Max Malini
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Musashi Regular user Oregon 132 Posts |
Right now I am particularly enamoured with coins (so sorry pasteboard fanatics et. al.)
Mostly because I have a nervous habit and constantly have to have something for my hands to do... so coins was a natural. I started rolling pencils a long time ago.. so the coin roll was an easy switch. Plus coins have a really nice feel in the hand, they look flashy and they double as currency!
"Care for a Jelly Baby?"
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Magicman0323 Special user Just outside parts unknown. 713 Posts |
I'd go with Peter's suggestions, also perhaps if you ask nicely he would be willing to share his no gimmick Scotch and Soda with you, its incredible.
You'll wonder when I'm coming, you'll wonder even more when I'm gone. - Max Malini
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Chessmann Inner circle 4242 Posts |
Here's some advice:
Knowing and being able to physically do an effect is one thing. Presenting it TO SOMEONE else is a different world. My problem for a long time was knowing how to physically DO the trick. But for some reason I messed up when doing it for someone else. I realized that my problem was I had not prepared my presentation. When I did an effect for someone I couldn't concentrate on the physical doing of it because my mind was trying to devise a good verbal presentation on the spur of the moment. Whatever routine you do, WRITE IT DOWN and MEMORIZE it and practice it as you practice the effect. Once you have both down pat, you will be amazed at how well you do. Plus, you can even improvise your routine based on the performance situation - simply because having the routine memorized completely will mean that no matter what detours you make in your presentation, you ALWAYS know where you're headed!
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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Jay Elite user Northern New Jersey 406 Posts |
Mark: I am going to copy and paste your post into my Hard Drive. You have identified, verbalized, and possibly solved my biggest problem! Thank you.
Jay |
Peter Marucci Inner circle 5389 Posts |
Mark makes a very valid point, something that is often overlooked.
It is essential that the mechanics, the working, of a trick be learned until it is second-nature (athletes et al. call it "muscle memory"), until you can literally "do it in your sleep". But it is also essential that the presentation be learned that way, too. It's just as bad to be fumbling about trying to think of what to say as it is to be fumbling about trying to think of what to do! Practice will give you skill in some sleights. Rehearsal will give you a polished, overall routine. But only performing for real-life audiences will make you a magician. |
Donato Capitella New user 1 Post |
Card College- Roberto Giobbi.
It's a fantastic book. |
Steven Steele Chief of Staff 1868 Posts |
There is a veritable plethora of effects out there and everybody has come up with some good recommendations. However, I would suggest reading Darwin Ortiz's "Strong Magic" and Kirk Charles "Restaurant and Walk Around Magic". These books will help turn a simple effect into a strong presentation. These books will also help you choose the best effects for you.
I also recommend "Real World Magic". It has great information.
Coram Deo
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