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prettylady1990
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206 Posts
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Posted: Feb 20, 2007 10:16pm
Coming From a girl Here,
Well Girls from down Under [Australia  ]
It's not that they find them dorks at all,
Maybe do a trick or two to draw them in. Just don't over kill it by making them think Your a dork.
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Mark R. Williams
Regular user
191 Posts
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Posted: Feb 21, 2007 10:42pm
I cannot agree with prettylady1990 any more!!! Don't overdo the magic!!
Also tell a good story and remember........... IT'S ALL ABOUT, THEM!!!!!
Mark
Dressing well, acting well (and I mean manners here) and smelling good help too!!
"One more step on the pathway of Knowledge, that is if we don't break our leg crossing the street"
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beaker
New user
77 Posts
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Posted: Feb 22, 2007 10:09am
Do you want to chat with that guy or gal you are interested in or are you the entertainment? Keep doing trick after trick and you'll be the entertainment. One or two quick ones to give an "Oh wow" moment is all that is necessary for the magic to make a good impression. Setting up your card table will not be greated by someone so enthusiastically in a social setting.
In university, I was just hanging out with some girls I had met earlier in the evening at a pub night. One of them did some version of the ten-card trick or whatever it is called while we were all hanging out in her dorm room. After it was done, she was talking about how the ten is the key card in the trick. I said "Hmmmmmm, that card really is interesting, I've only seen a couple like it ever before." "What do you mean?" she said. I had her sign her name on the card and then I did the Paul Harris routine from his Stars of Magic tape (this was 15 years ago) which ends with the Ultimate Rip-Off (I think that's the name, torn and restored signed card, anyone? The four trick routine includes sidewinder as well).She and her friends flipped. It was totally unexpected, it fit in the situation, and she had the signed restored card as a souvenir. Several months later, I dropped by her residence room, and there it was pinned up on her wall.
It had a big effect because it was done as an aside, like you would tell a good joke, so it enhanced the atmosphere. It was a few minutes of a three-hour social thing. I wanted to be known as the fun guy from the fourth floor, not the magician.
Beaker
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leverkus
New user
27 Posts
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Posted: Feb 23, 2007 4:01pm
I think there are many different types of using magic for women. you can aproach a chik with a trick or you can be introduced as a magician ( I don't like this) and I think the best one is aproach to her without magic and do magic at the correct moment and place. or if in the conversation the hobby comes out or something, say you like impressing people by doing impossible things. and if she asks to be more specific, do a litle trick.
just to add osmething to this, none of the ways I mentioned is wrong, because all have worked with me (maybe its just me 
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leverkus
New user
27 Posts
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Posted: Feb 23, 2007 4:15pm
Well, I kept on thinking on this theme from magic and girls and I thought fomr last summer on the beach, I tryed to reach some girls by doing magic, and I did, and I had no problem, but they kept on "do another one" and I did...and "do antoher one" and I did, and so on and so on, I was like captured by the magic and forgot why I was there, after a while, other dudes came (i didn't know them, and neither did the girls) but one of them was very impressed by my magic, and the other two were taking advantage of my capacity aproaching th girls. at the end, the other dudes left with the girls. and I was kind of deseptioned, though at the end I didn't even want to go out with them anymore.
actually, next day, without any magic, I aproached a much ebtter girl, and it went a lot better. I think I mentiones magic but not enough for her to get ienterested and it went a loot better thatn with the magic. atually my real succeses havent been with magic
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The Mac
Inner circle
South Africa
1921 Posts
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Posted: Feb 25, 2007 1:14pm
That's because you didn't close. the "dudes" did.
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ibm_usa
Special user
588 Posts
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Posted: Mar 4, 2007 10:06pm
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On 2007-02-20 22:16, prettylady1990 wrote:
Coming From a girl Here,
Well Girls from down Under [Australia ]
It's not that they find them dorks at all,
Maybe do a trick or two to draw them in. Just don't over kill it by making them think Your a dork.
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I agree, Never over kill a trick, it makes you look bad and it gets annoying, regardless of who your audience consists of.
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gdw
Inner circle
4428 Posts
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Posted: Mar 6, 2007 11:01pm
You know, the thing I hate the most is what a girl says "Girls must love you for this" and yet they never show any interest in you themselves.
Just kinda rubs salt in the woud unintentionally.
How can they NOT see what they are saying??? "OTHER girls must . . . "
Now I am certaily not the most attractive guy, heck, most male magicians would be magicians if they were attractive and all, but I'm not hidious, and I have never gotten anything more than a friendship with a girl from the assistance of my magic.
That is untill I met my fiance, lol. Go figure the one girl would be the one I would marry. But she was actually interested BEFORE she knew I did magic, and actually admitted when it was brought up she had a groan in the back of her mind.
Untill I did card in mouth (not the most appropriate, sure but) and her mouth dropped.
But I was never able to gain anything via magic. That is, it never really gave me any added boost in my chances with any one showing interest romantically.
But I did gain quite a few GREAT friends. But always JUST friends.
March 22, 2011, our beautiful baby girl, Evelyn, was born.
It's a brave new world, get with it, or get out of the way.
Man has evolved, "god" is extinct.
I won't forget you Robert.
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Hoagini
New user
USA
34 Posts
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Posted: Mar 9, 2007 5:02pm
It depends on the situation I guess. Over Christmas I was in Mexico and super intoxicated. Night after night in the clubs, daddy o's, bulldogs, etc. I would bust out the tricks and act all in your face and totally inappropriately with women but it worked and I would gather enough of a crowd and once you get one girl kissing you then there would be another then by the end of the night you have pictures of a couple girls making out with you and then things get crazy. Afterwards I would get to chatting and show smaller more intimate tricks one on one as the night wore on. Once I got it down a couple times, it seemed to work like a science, I'd behave a certain way, people would react the same way no matter the audience. As the tricks got more "amazing" (if you can call the superman coin bend amazing lol) the rewards seemed to increase. Anyways, this was the first time I took magic on a vacation and had better success with women than previous years. Maybe it was the booze. One thing's for sure is that I am very good at losing and destroying tricks when I'm drunk. I tend to be more charismatic in front of a crowd and don't really have an ego about magic which totally diffuses "oh, he's a magician" stigma. As well, I'm pretty good at reading the crowd and I'm quickly figuring out my "character" when I perform.
Lately I've been performing to groups of up to 40 people in the camp I work in in the northwest terrirories. Not an easy audience either, they're all construction types but I perform from 8-11 nonstop and I repeat tricks over and over and it's like a new crowd everytime. I've only ever been paid a tip once though lol Looks like I'll have to bust out the hummer card...
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mrsmiles
Veteran user
312 Posts
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Posted: Mar 10, 2007 8:34am
I have a friend who wows girls with magic but he doesn't get anywhere. Mind you, he's ugly.
mrsmiles
(UK)
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ibm_usa
Special user
588 Posts
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Posted: Mar 11, 2007 10:40pm
Well then that's your friends problem.
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Lord of the Dragons
New user
15 Posts
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Posted: Nov 23, 2007 9:37pm
I have learned that magic is a great way to enter into a conversation with a girl. Start off with something amazing but simple. Don't over do it. If you use something too powerful you could make them mad cuz they can't figure it out and then you would have to go back to less powerful stuff. I have learned that you have to start off with something small and study your audience. Find out what this person likes and doesn't like. You can do this with your first effect. Then when you find this out you bass the rest of your routine around this one girl. its very effective if you know what your doing, what your audience is like, and how to approach the situation.
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cupsandballsmagic
Inner circle
2457 Posts
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Posted: Nov 24, 2007 5:34am
Perhaps, if you perform on a regular basis, you will (either already have or develop) good people and communication skills and a pleasant personality.....
Maybe *some* people use magic as a "crutch" because they do not yet realise that they are interesting people in their own right and can interest people enough to develop a relationship without magic....
Besides.... you can guarantee that "she" wont think you are that special 5 years down the line and you are asking her to think of her 500th word in a book so you can rehearse it "just one more time!"
Cups and Balls | Cups and Balls magic
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Ray_Mago
New user
Rio Rancho
82 Posts
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Posted: Nov 24, 2007 6:21am
Everybody here should read "the game" by neil Strauss, it had some great tips on this very subject... women, not so much magic.
Have you Amazed?
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cupsandballsmagic
Inner circle
2457 Posts
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Posted: Nov 24, 2007 8:52am
<<<ahem>>> - Maybe not *everybody* needs to! :P
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Ray_Mago
New user
Rio Rancho
82 Posts
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Posted: Nov 24, 2007 8:56am
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On 2007-11-24 08:52, mindyourmagic wrote:
<<<ahem>>> - Maybe not *everybody* needs to! 
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lol, true.
Have you Amazed?
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Magic Enhancer
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Robert Haas
1805 Posts
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Posted: Jan 17, 2008 5:00pm
Girls are evil.......
Robert Haas
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ibm_usa
Special user
588 Posts
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Posted: Jan 28, 2008 5:22pm
I think that if we are going to talk about using "magic" to meet girls, I believe that it should be discussed on how to approach them.
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Cinnamon
Loyal user
Philippines
227 Posts
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Posted: Feb 8, 2008 6:52pm
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On 2008-01-17 17:00, Magic Enhancer wrote:
Girls are evil.......
Robert Haas
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Oh I agree.
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AlexanderYan
New user
Boston, MA
38 Posts
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Posted: Mar 4, 2008 2:54am
I personally don't think magic should be used to attract women at all. It's gimmicky, it cheapens the art, and magic's negative connotation will probably hurt you in the long run.
All in all, there are subtler ways to create attraction. Romantic magic tricks do not qualify.
-AY
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Grant Horton
New user
Texas
51 Posts
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Posted: Mar 7, 2008 3:04am
I don't think it should be used to "attract" them no. Unless they happen to come over while you are performing for others, and that is completely of their own accord. However, magic is part of what we are...we are magicians. Someone asks what you do, if you sell cars you don't automatically try to sell them one on the spot, but you might mention making them a deal of some sort...not sure if the analogy applies...do you get my meaning?
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Mr. Mystoffelees
Inner circle
I haven't changed anyone's opinion in
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Posted: Mar 10, 2008 8:47pm
Don't know if there is a parallel here, but...
when I was young and into guitar, I would take it to a bar and sit in a corner playing. Girls would come up, listen with interest, and drift off.
Then I joined a band, was up in front on stage, and the number of girls that hit on me was actually frightening.
So, how does it go for those magicians who perform a stage act? Is it different from walk-around or casual magic?
As I felt the soft, cool mud squish between my toes, I thought "Man, these are not very good shoes" Jack Handey
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Spidey_magic
New user
42 Posts
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Posted: Nov 24, 2008 2:47am
Hey guys!
THis is such a long thread and a lot of you raise great points.
I've been working both in the field of magic and "pick-up" for quite some time now and could easily say that if used right you can definetely use magic as a hook point (the point where the girl sees something about you that might buy you more time)
what you don't want is to be a magic monkey, she needs to be attracted to the magician, not the magic. That having been said, you don't want to get cheesy or anything, it has very playful. A real nice mentalism effect can also really increase connection and rapport. But that conection needs to be honored, I would never use magic to get a girl for one night or something like that.
I have a DVD that explains my method and it's been selling rather nicely to guys in the "pick up" community, the magic community and average guys. It's called the art of attraction, you can find the trailer at : http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jn3bV48Rok
the DVD itself is available at most magic retail stores. and through murphys
sincerely,
Spidey
oh and by the way, you can TELL girls that you use magic to meet girls and that its a great interactive tool, I find they often appreciate the honesty
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hypno_mentalist
New user
42 Posts
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Posted: Jul 1, 2011 6:43am
Thanks for all the gems of wisdom from everyone.. will keep it in mind
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BryanKelly
Regular user
191 Posts
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Posted: Jul 8, 2011 5:18pm
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On 2008-11-24 02:47, Spidey_magic wrote:
Hey guys!
THis is such a long thread and a lot of you raise great points.
I've been working both in the field of magic and "pick-up" for quite some time now and could easily say that if used right you can definetely use magic as a hook point (the point where the girl sees something about you that might buy you more time)
what you don't want is to be a magic monkey, she needs to be attracted to the magician, not the magic. That having been said, you don't want to get cheesy or anything, it has very playful. A real nice mentalism effect can also really increase connection and rapport. But that conection needs to be honored, I would never use magic to get a girl for one night or something like that.
I have a DVD that explains my method and it's been selling rather nicely to guys in the "pick up" community, the magic community and average guys. It's called the art of attraction, you can find the trailer at : http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jn3bV48Rok
the DVD itself is available at most magic retail stores. and through murphys
sincerely,
Spidey
oh and by the way, you can TELL girls that you use magic to meet girls and that its a great interactive tool, I find they often appreciate the honesty
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There needs to be much more of this material out there. I have a number of routines I've developed using PUA psychology. It's a very rewarding pursuit. Social dynamics just gives so many more layers to your magic performances, not to mention the benefits from a more fulfilling social life.
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daffydoug
Eternal Order
Daff could give a rats butt that he has
11226 Posts
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Posted: Jul 8, 2011 9:06pm
And other fringe benefits, too.....
The difficult must become easy, the easy beautiful and the beautiful magical.
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daffydoug
Eternal Order
Daff could give a rats butt that he has
11226 Posts
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Posted: Jul 9, 2011 8:15am
Speaking of magic with girls, there is a new DVD out by David Jay titled "Ringmaster" I watched the vid at Penguin, and I wanna tell you, it looks hot. I kind of think that the things he is doing in this DVD are the real work on how to do magic for girls and NOT appear geeky. (Never once do you pull out a deck of cards!!)
This is one DVD that is on the top of my hit list.
The difficult must become easy, the easy beautiful and the beautiful magical.
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dtextreme
New user
79 Posts
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Posted: Jul 13, 2011 1:24pm
From my experience, girls like guys who are fun--and certainly magic offers that. In addition, girls like guys who are passionate and skilled on things that are considered worthy of praise such as singing,dancing, cooking, etc. Also, due to women's strong maternal instincts, they especially love it when they see you do magic for children, as they see you as potentially a good father. The magic performed shouldn't be dorky or else it wouldn't be "worthy of praise"--unless those girls enjoy those types of magic.
Like many things, magic is only a talent, as you are also judged by your looks, personality, intelligence, and wealth.
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daffydoug
Eternal Order
Daff could give a rats butt that he has
11226 Posts
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Posted: Jul 14, 2011 8:19am
It's a balance....
The difficult must become easy, the easy beautiful and the beautiful magical.
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barrychilds
New user
11 Posts
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Posted: Jul 16, 2011 1:34pm
Best not to mention balls and cups or anything magically rising!
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