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mc_magi
Special user
Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Mar 22, 2005 5:23am
Airight. I duno about you guys, and I am definitely not critisizing anyone, but personally, I don't feel the need to "use magic" to "get girls." my past relationships, although not many, have lasted long and started without magic
also, think about it. if a girl dates you just to see the magic tricks, how long would that last?
maybe I'm an old fashioned out-of-date on relationships, but one night stand and things like that, doesn't really appeal to me.
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Eric Jones
V.I.P.
Director of Product Development
2103 Posts
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Posted: Mar 22, 2005 2:33pm
I completely agree, with the Mc. I don't feel the need to use magic to get women. But you have to admit, it's fun to have "groupies"......lol
And No MC_Magi, you're not out of date on relationships, and one night stands don't appeal to everyone. Magic is one of the best ice breakers on the planet, as long as it's performed well. Why not use conjuring to meet the woman( or women) of your dreams?
“We're two tigers away from an act in Vegas.” Greg House M.D.
http://www.ericjonesmagic.com
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mc_magi
Special user
Vancouver, BC
949 Posts
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Posted: Mar 22, 2005 5:07pm
Agree on that one as well, when you are siting alone, anywhere, with group of people around you, the best way to start interacting with them is magic, probably since its recognized worldwide.
who wouldnt want to see something totally out of ordinary just for fun? xD
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fr3ky magick
New user
East Sussex, ENGLAND
55 Posts
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Posted: May 1, 2005 4:02pm
As a girl I am saying this " Some girls dig it if a guy can perform magic, if they are manipulated well then even better because they will be sucked into it all, sucked as in loving it and will pay attention to it, basically like you have hypnotised them. Plus some may even find it sexy."
As a girl performing magic to guys, you tend to get the feeling of 'She's a girl and she does magic she's won't be good sort of thing, but if that happends to me then I end up wowing them and they regret what they have thought or said.HA!!!, but nevertheless most jobs nowadays are MALE BASED, and magic is even thought of more of a male thing, plus usually you have a magicians glamourous assistant (lady), so if a lady performed, do you think her glamourous assistant would be a guy or girl? It would be quite funny if it was a guy!
Some important things to remember when performing are; Be clear when asking/explaining information to audience - they are less likley to ruin it if they have to help out, always have eye-contact,intereact and include them as much as possible, be confident and ejyo your perofmrnac,e they will too, your first impression could be their lasting impression (so watch out!)!AND REMEMBER TO PRACITICE, AND NEVER REVEAL A TRICK. lol -NOT EVEN IF YOUR DRUNK OR ON A DARE lol etc.
Kind regards,
Belinda - keeping magic secret and alive
Always look on the bright side of life, Set goals and acheive them, never let anyone put you down you are unique in your own way.
Peace to the world.May MAGIC never die.
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mc_magi
Special user
Vancouver, BC
949 Posts
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Posted: May 2, 2005 3:38am
Exposures bad
revealing, not so bad. at least I think.
I mean cmon ,without revelations how many of us would be here? any kid can walk into a magic shop and "learn few tricks"
but giving away your repetoir.
now for THAT, you must be as drunk as. .. %^&&( to do that.
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fr3ky magick
New user
East Sussex, ENGLAND
55 Posts
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Posted: May 2, 2005 5:28am
BTW what do you guys do/say if you are performing a trick and someone;
1) Shouts out that they know how the trick is done
2) Reveals the trick as you are performing it
3) Say you have perofmred a trick and the spectator has the same props as you do their and they tried to copy everything you did.
4) Or goes ahead and reveals a trick after performing it regardless of keeping it secret.
Kind Regards,
Belinda
I have been in all the above situations.
Always look on the bright side of life, Set goals and acheive them, never let anyone put you down you are unique in your own way.
Peace to the world.May MAGIC never die.
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Al Angello
Eternal Order
Collegeville, Pa. USA
10460 Posts
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Posted: May 2, 2005 8:09am
I am always amazed when I go to a house to perform magic, and one or more women tell me "I wish my husband was more like you" because most men are selfe absorber duds, so magic, or not just being charming and well dressed is a big plus, also I have noticed that at my age (59) there is a larger persentage of lonely women, and a poorer seliction of good men for them to choose from, I feel that if I live long enough to make it to a nursing home I will become a real chick magnet.
Al Angello
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com
http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/
"Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone"
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PhatDad
New user
91 Posts
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Posted: May 2, 2005 12:28pm
I'm a man and not a proffesor in women and what they like but here's what I think...
I think magic is a good ice breaker but it's all down to the type of person you are.
To be a performer you need to have a lot of things women like in a man. Humour, wit, inteligence and most of all confidence. Just because you know what you're doing with regards to magic it's not necesarily going to help you with the ladies unless you've got charm in abundance but the wisdom and inteligence to know how much or how little to use.
I'm a door supervisor and get aproached more than a fat, bald, bearded, idiot like me should be but on one occasion a young lady aproached me and said I looked like Derren Brown. I'd just read through Psychological Subtleties again and said to her "Funny you should say that as I'm related to him." I then went through a few of the easy mind reading things like 'think of a vegetable' and 'think of an animal' etc as they were the only things I could remember. She was gobsmacked and really freaked out.
Anyway, I owned up to not being related to him etc but she still sees me and says hi. I think that is when magic should be used, either as a simple ice breaker or off the cuff in the right situation.
Like I said, I'm no expert, well with magic anyway,  so don't flame me.
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Roki
Special user
London
640 Posts
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Posted: May 9, 2005 6:37pm
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On 2005-05-02 08:09, juggleral wrote:
...... I feel that if I live long enough to make it to a nursing home I will become a real chick magnet.
Al Angello
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LOL Very funny AL, !!!!!!
and you've given us all something to look forward to !
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Paddy
Inner circle
Milford OH
1345 Posts
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Posted: May 10, 2005 3:21am
Interesting comments. When I go to a party I never do magic because then I am the party. Sorry I want to be a guest sometimes. But when doing strolling magic at a corporate function or a restaurant I am amazed at the number of women (OK not a lot but one or two) who will start up conversations with me and have even given me their phone numbers. (No I have not asked because I am there as an entertainer not a woman chaser.) Don't get me wrong I, too, agree that useing magic to "cop a feel" (as one of you phrased it) is wrong.
I am not a handsome young guy like Copperfield so it isn't my looks, but the idea of being a magician seems "romantic" to some ladies.
Non Impediti Ratione Cogitationis
Unencumbered by the Thought Process.
http://www.Scho-Lan.com
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Al Angello
Eternal Order
Collegeville, Pa. USA
10460 Posts
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Posted: May 11, 2005 5:50pm
Paddy
Magic sets you apart from all the nascar, professional wresteling, and bench clearing brawl fans that most men are. To women a migican is a man who has a clean shaved, manners, will make eye contact with them, and talk calmly in cohesive sentences. I like to have this advantage so don't tell anyone.
Al Angello
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com
http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/
"Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone"
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prettylady1990
Loyal user
206 Posts
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Posted: May 13, 2005 5:55am
HI
I'm a girl and lets just say this post is well............. very interesting. lol
you have a weird version on how a girls mind works, that's for sure.
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PhatDad
New user
91 Posts
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Posted: May 15, 2005 3:34am
Agreed, but its the best we can do. If you weren't all messed up in the head then we might stand a chance of understanding you.
Women think they've figured us men out, but they don't know how stupid we really are.
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Zac Vee
Veteran user
Traveling the world with
370 Posts
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Posted: May 15, 2005 6:36am
The BEST BEST thing is when it comes to Magic and girls is, when girl says Oh my god you do magic as well, that is so cool.
Always let the magic step in naturally do not approach with magic if you intened to meet a girl, leave the magic for later. IMHO
Zac
peace, love and kindness.. no terms and conditions
1001 Magic Nights Blog
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http://www.kasrani.com/
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markmagic
New user
KY
79 Posts
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Posted: May 16, 2005 12:34am
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On 2005-02-28 11:35, TommyTheTremendous wrote:
Then you have the women that say that magic is evil and part of demonic rituals. As soon as I heard that, my eyes popped out of my head; but being the gentleman that I am, I said ok and walked away. I do agree however that it's not magic that gets the girls. It's your personality and how you come across to the girl as a human, NOT a magician.
Although I am curious...has anyone gotten a female to date them by JUST doing magic?
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Tommy, after a 25 year magic, after my divorce, I just knew that I would meet a lady through magic. Sure enough, In one of my TGIfridays shows,It lead to birthday booking, then a date. We have now been together over 5 years.
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Paul D
Elite user
NY
455 Posts
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Posted: May 18, 2005 12:28am
Good for you MarkMagic.In all my experience in magic and women Ive come to the conclusion you can never know it all about either of them.
Astonishment as Therapy...?
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mentalvic
Loyal user
214 Posts
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Posted: May 18, 2005 4:54am
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On 2005-02-26 18:09, macGyver(south Africa) wrote:
My random tips if anyone cares
I can tell you that magic sets you apart form the rest of the guys if you do it right and learn self control.
Usually when friends and I go out and a new girl comes along some where along the line my magic skills get mentioned: She asks " show me a trick?" I say "no"
and later when we're playing pool or something I'll go " that's a beautiful ring..can I see it?" (add your effect here) |
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This is where I make off with her ring! j/k
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1. When in a group and you're doing magic for one girl - make her the centre of attention. Keep your eye contact with her and just a hint of a smile. The effect is much stronger. |
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And try to ignore the restraining order. ')
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2. Women respond well to story telling so use romantic stories. Use angel imagery, stories of love lost etc. |
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A story with an angel in it, eh? OK.
Once, I was doing this trick when an angel appeared! It looked like it was on fire and made of metal but it had four heads, three of which were animalistic in appearance and the fourth one was a man's head. I started screaming because it was a really scary experience and then... YOUR CARD IS THE ACE OF DIAMONDS!
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3. Try as much as possible NOT to do a card trick as your opener. Once they see cards their mind is already thinking of Uncle Harry's boring card tricks.
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Uncle Harry had some PRETTY GOOD card tricks, I dunno about this one, man.
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4. Humour is a good thing - but you want to create some tension and intimacy-humour diffuses tension. Open with a joke but get serious. |
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A joke, huh? Two magicians walk into a bar, the first magician says to the other, "I'm glad your here." The other magician says, "Why?" The first magician says, "'Coz now I know I won't be the only guy going home alone, tonight!"
(Thank you! I'll be here all week!)
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5. Touch! yes, hold her hand or ask her to hold yours when you French drop the ring.
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Hmmm. This IS a family-oriented forum, I'll have you know! =)
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6. Lose the gameshow host persona, go with a sincere quiet approach - be a steel fist in a velvert glove. Try to make it seem like you are both experiencing the magic instead of you being a smarty pants and showing off. |
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There went my stage AND real personas in one fell swoop!
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7. Use her rings, her name, her favourite card , her napkin her drink. |
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Her credit card, her car, her house keys, her TV, her bank account, her-- hey! That book on pick-pocketing techniques DID come in handy!
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(As I write this I just came up with an idea : imagine using ringflite to vanish her ring. Then doing a floating rose - opening the petals of the real rose and there is the ring. hmmm)
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I can imagine the pepper-spray in my eyes.
There she was, a dodgy old prune in a tiara, rushing at me waving a sword. Do all knights suffer this whilst being made?
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Roki
Special user
London
640 Posts
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Posted: May 18, 2005 8:41am
Magic is just another way to get "in". You need a bit more to your repertoire to keep it going.
And of course always have a reliable "out" . !!!!
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Paul D
Elite user
NY
455 Posts
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Posted: May 18, 2005 10:02pm
Well Put Roki!
Astonishment as Therapy...?
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ashah
Elite user
455 Posts
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Posted: May 19, 2005 3:16am
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On 2005-05-15 06:36, Zac Vee wrote:
The BEST BEST thing is when it comes to Magic and girls is, when girl says Oh my god you do magic as well, that is so cool.
Always let the magic step in naturally do not approach with magic if you intened to meet a girl, leave the magic for later. IMHO
Zac
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I agree with this. The best thing that can happen is that they find out you do magic and then they start begging you to do some. The reason that this is good is simply that it is good whenever girls beg you to do anything. It gives you power and it makes them go crazy, and they like that. Rather than "give in" when they start begging, you should deny them the pleasure of seeing your magic skills for a while, and then when you spring it on them they'll appreciate it that much more.
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Lee Darrow
V.I.P.
Chicago, IL USA
3594 Posts
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Posted: May 22, 2005 5:49am
And when all is said and done, whether it's a one night stand (shudder!) or a long-term committment, it's YOU she's getting involved with. If you are a shallow, uninteresting person whose only interests are in doing a better version of the ambitious card or in yet another method for a cut and restored rope, you will be in serious trouble by about three in the morning. Magic might be the spark that gets the current flowing on the wires between the two of you, but unless you have a personality, your batteries will run dry real quickly and the electricity just won't be there for long.
Been there, seen it happen, learned on the third try. Now married to a former Miss Chicago and publisher that I met while working a trade show over a decade ago. Having some interests outside of magic helps a lot. So does a healthy (though some people argue that point) sense of humor helps a lot, too. Very few relationships survuive without laughter.
Lee Darrow, C.H.
http://www.leedarrow.com
"Because NICE Matters!"
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Al Angello
Eternal Order
Collegeville, Pa. USA
10460 Posts
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Posted: May 31, 2005 12:01pm
Lee
Are you saying that tricks arn't enough, you need a life to keep a woman? So let me get this streight it's not the wand it's the magician. Honestly speaking the best kept secret about male and female relationships is, no matter what you do in the end WOMEN CHOOSE, AND CHASE MEN, I repeat WOMEN CHASE MEN so be patient, stay well groomed, and wait for your turn. I'm not an expert but I have had two turns.
OLD MARRIED
Al
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com
http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/
"Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone"
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tiberius magus
New user
70 Posts
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Posted: Jun 2, 2005 3:00am
Magic is just like anything else you might be able to do: the only reason you should slip it into a conversation with a woman you're interested in is if it fits. This is true in the same way that if you were, say, a poet, you wouldn't always just go around spouting poetry but you might slip something in when the time was right. That said, dropping a simple but powerful effect (think something smooth, simple and without any patter) into a regular situation without any explanation can definitely develop your mystery factor, always a good thing to get her more interested in who you really are.
Everything said, you're not going to somehow mesmerize/hyptnotise a woman into being with you unless she's got some serious self-confidence issues. Romance has nothing to do with convincing women who aren't interested to like you and everything to do with being clear about your own intentions to those who are.
sincerely,
Tiberius Magus
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jezza
Elite user
459 Posts
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Posted: Jun 3, 2005 12:37pm
Chat her up, charm her ,buy her a drink, and get her in the sack
he he he
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ruaturtle
Regular user
Gastonia, NC
113 Posts
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Posted: Jun 18, 2005 4:07pm
Just like everything else... sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't...
I have found that I do not suffer from insanity... instead I rather enjoy it! : )
Poodle... the other white meat.
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Midnight333
Veteran user
351 Posts
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Posted: Jun 22, 2005 1:35pm
Wait. let me get this straight. a bunch of guys, in an INTERNET forum, giving advice, on how to get girls. Wait. Okay, wait. wait. WHAT?
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BAH1313
Elite user
Ohio
445 Posts
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Posted: Jun 22, 2005 5:20pm
I'll tell you what I've learned about women and magic...Never think you're the one with all the tricks up your sleeve.
I am truly blessed to have a job where people are laughing all the time and everyone believes in magic....Come to think of it, I'm blessed to even have a job.
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denzildon
New user
47 Posts
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Posted: Jun 25, 2005 3:02am
Use magic to break the ice!
Use you personality to charm!
If everything else goes to as planned...thats the time to use your wand!!!
Imagination is more important than knowledge!!! -- Albert Einstein
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Magnum
New user
Charleston,SC
89 Posts
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Posted: Jun 28, 2005 11:48pm
I have found that while magic intrigues women initially, it scares them once it is said and done. I didn't start doing magic until after I was married. Once I started, my wife has always been one of the first people I try new effects on. In the beginning she was afraid of me (I don't have an explaination of why), but it was too late for her to escape... the marriage. She still is freaked out sometimes, but she has recently gotten interested and began reading and practicing Bobo's modern coin magic so I think that will stop soon enough.
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Jerrine
Special user
Busking is work.
629 Posts
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Posted: Jun 29, 2005 5:01pm
When the answer to, "What do you do?" is Magician, hold on to your hat because the converstaion is off and running. It's one of the best opening lines there is, it's truthful and spurs interest. Thinking that you will "use" Magic to get the girl has always been a bit farfetched for me. A good look at the basket, yes, a slam dunk, no.
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