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michaeldoral
New user
11 Posts
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Posted: May 15, 2012 5:26pm
By the way about that dollar bill window change, in case theres a chance youre all interested, I put together a pretty good story for that illusion, I show the audience a $1 dollar bill together with a $2 dollar bill, bring them together while talking about the secrets rarely discovered about folding paper, like stories you might remember from japan or china about magical paper cranes and paper dragons, then quickly fold them both together into a $3 dollar bill which I commisioned from a good graphic arts printing company on strathmore cotton rag paper, and after that remark that $3 dollar bills are very rare but I can never actually spend them because really only magicians ever carry them around, so its much better and more practical to fold them back into a $1 dollar bill and a $2 dollar bill, and that's a curious story but its worth remembering ; )
"how far that little candle throws its beams! so shines a good deed in a weary world..." william shakespeare RC+
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Mb217
Inner circle
V.I.P. ;)
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Posted: May 15, 2012 5:29pm
I always say, "Do You!"  That's the best way and having a pet effect that fits you is all you really need. I think we all walk around with a head full of effect but probably only do few, which might be all most folks can stand.  If you have a good coins across that works for you, amidst the set of magic you like to present to people, then that sounds good to me. That's about how I do things as well. I know a bunch of coin effects and have come up with quite a few myself of some note but only do a few of those, maybe 2-3 on any regular basis. The ones I do, they absolutely kill and so no need to carry all sorts of things, I got real gold in my 2-3 and they are the things I came up with, which makes them even more special to me. Love all the effects you mention here, all wonderful tricks. Your coins across story is about all the coin stuff you need to do it seems but if you ever need more, maybe just a little bit...you know where to come.  Oh, and I like the cards a bit too, carry a few things with me regularly, like NFW, B'Wave and ReFlipped. Makes a half-decent coin guy like me look like a pretty good card man too. Throw in a few other little simple enough things that kill and you're a complete closeup man.
*Check out my latest Crimp Change - REDUX! and other fine magic at www.vinnymarini.com 
"Not much new under the sun I hear but under the moon, well who knows, that just might be a horse of a different color." -Mb
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michaeldoral
New user
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Posted: May 15, 2012 5:38pm
Mb good message, yes I completely agree, very kind remarks of yours also, thank you for that. And by the way I love your signature, very original and I have to say very magical, it bears that telltale character of magical thinking and imagination, and comedy too, which is something I think for the magical realm is almost required for our kind...
"how far that little candle throws its beams! so shines a good deed in a weary world..." william shakespeare RC+
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michaeldoral
New user
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Posted: May 15, 2012 5:58pm
Also mb your krazykoinz across sounds very interesting, I will have to look into that sometime soon, and yes I also have thought before that maybe three coins across might make for a more direct and memorable story, also it might keep your audience even more surprised and mystified, since every secret magical move is completely different, you might even say monty python for that very same reason ; )
"how far that little candle throws its beams! so shines a good deed in a weary world..." william shakespeare RC+
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Tryllejakob
New user
Denmark
51 Posts
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Posted: May 16, 2012 2:51am
I use a move by Harwey Rosenthal to steal 2 coins while tossing for to the left hand. Then make the first travel, and using Kaps/malini sub to hide the next coin. Then I use a 2 for 2 steal from Ponta the Smith where the two coins end I Back Clip. The 3rd and 4th coin travel together it gives a nice kicker to the effect.
Best Regards
Jakob Rasmussen
Denmark
www.magicshow.dk
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Mb217
Inner circle
V.I.P. ;)
5745 Posts
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Posted: May 16, 2012 6:29pm
Thanks Mike, it's available on my "Short Pockets" download along with some other really good, doable coin magic. There's a few effects along with KrazyKoinZ you might like there in the package, at least countless others thought so.
*Check out my latest Crimp Change - REDUX! and other fine magic at www.vinnymarini.com
"Not much new under the sun I hear but under the moon, well who knows, that just might be a horse of a different color." -Mb
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Gerald Deutsch
Regular user
129 Posts
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Posted: May 16, 2012 8:23pm
COINS ACROSS IN THEIR HANDS – GERALD DEUTSCH
Effect
Normally a “Coins Across” routine is done on a table but a table isn’t always available when a magician is performing “Walk Around Magic”. In such a case I use a spectator’s (usually a woman’s) hands as my “table”.
1 I show 4 quarters in my left hand and toss them into my right hand where they are seen to be only 4 coins. I close both hands and when opened there are 3 coins in my right hand and one in my left.
The 3 coins in my right hand are placed in the spectator’s left hand.
2 The 3 coins are again taken from the spectator’s hand in the performer’s right hand. The magician makes a motion with both hands and drops 2 coins from each hand into the spectator’s two hands, 2 coins in each hand.
3 The 2 coins in the spectator’s right hand are picked up in the magician’s right hand and dropped into his left hand and the 2 coins in the spectator’s left hand is taken in the magicians right hand.
Again a gesture and now the magician drops 3 coins from his left hand into the spectator’s right hand and drops one coin from his right hand into the spectator’s left hand.
4 The magician picks up the three coins from the spectator’s right hand and then gives them back to her. He picks up the one coin from the spectator’s left hand and says the will make that coin now go to join those in the spectator’s right hand.
The magician shows that the one coin has vanished and asks the spectator to open her hand and when she does she is holding 4 coins.
Handling
The numbers below correspond to the numbers above.
1 A coin is Classic Palmed in the right hand and you have 4 coins in the left hand. The right index finger pushes one coin into Classic Palm in the left hand while the hand is open.
The coins from the left hand are tossed to the right hand (i) with the coin Classic Palmed in the left hand staying and (ii) the three coins that go join the coin Classic Palmed in the right. The coin Classic Palmed remains Classic Palmed.
This “shows” that there are only 4 coins.
The hands are closed and the three coins in the right hand are taken between the thumb and fingers and the “Kaps Subtlety” keeps the Classic Palmed coin from being seen. The left hand is opened and it appears that one coin has gone from the right hand to the left. The three coins shown in the right hand are placed in the spectator’s left hand.
2 There is a coin on the left palm (which the audience knows about) and one in the right Classic Palmed (which the audience does NOT know about).
I now do a “shuttle move” – something like Howie Schwarzman’s in his “Thumb Tax” (Bobo page 419) but like this:
The coin that is Classic Palmed in the right hand is allowed to drop to the right fingertips. The right hand now approaches the coin on the left palm and pretends to take it but as soon as that coin is covered the left hand turns palm down and the coin in the right hand is placed between the left thumb and index finger which holds the coin by its edges. Again the open left fingers makes it look like the hand is otherwise empty though the coin remains Classic Palmed.
The three coins that the spectator is holding is taken in the right hand and one is Classic Palmed.
Two coins are them shown at the fingertips of each hand and two coins are put in each of the spectator’s hands.
I then hold the spectator’s fingers of each hand with each of my hands, my fingers on top and my thumbs underneath. This makes it appear that both my hands are empty although there is a coin Classic Palmed in my right hand.
3 The two coins from the spectators right hand are taken in the magician’s right hand and they, together with the coin Classic Palmed in that hand are dropped into the magician’s left hand.
The two coins in the spectator’s left hand are taken in the magician’s right hand and one is Classic Palmed.
The magician shows another coin has passed and drops the three in his left hand into the spectator’s right hand and the one not palmed in his right hand into the spectator’s left hand.
4 The magician picks up the three coins from the spectator’s right hand in his right hand , adds the coin that he had Classic palmed and drops the 4 (spectator thinks 3) back into the spectator’s right hand and tells the spectator to close her hand and turn it palm down (so she won’t open it).
The coin in the spectator’s left hand is taken in the magician’s right hand and held at the fingertips and Sol Stone’s Pivot Vanish is done with the coin, apparently in the left hand, dropping into the right hand.
A gesture is made and the left hand is shown to be empty and the spectator is told to open her hand to show 4.
While she does the magician Classic Palms the coin in his right hand and then uses the apparent right hand to take the coins from the spectator’s right hand.
Note: At a cocktail party the spectator may be holding a drink. I sometimes ask one
of the other spectator’s to hold the drink and in some cases I use one woman’s right
hand and another woman’s left hand.
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Al Schneider
V.I.P.
A corn field, WI
525 Posts
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Posted: May 16, 2012 9:50pm
My standard coins across routine works incredably well without a table.
There is one small change.
In fact, I often perform it as a full stage routine.
It goes over quite well.
I have two people help me.
One to my left and one to my rignt.
They hold out their hand as tables.
Here is what makes this so strong.
When the pop up move is performed, I place a coin on top of one fist.
Then, I hold the fist with coin on top three inches from the left spectators face.
The audience sees the helper watch the coin slip into my hand.
I ask the person if they saw the coin go into the hand.
The person's facial expression is interesting as they say it went into the hand.
It is very entertaining.
Note that I keep my hand if front of the person's face during the entier sequence.
That handles the first two transposions.
The third is done with an extra.
It is in my rt sleeve.
I keep my arms up until at the right moment I retrieve it.
The last coin is placed into the hand as before.
On the last transposiiton the coin is in heel position and I ask the person to blow on the hand.
Then I do a little twist and ditch it.
Been dong this for 20 years.
Never fails.
Al Scneider
There is only one absolute truth.
That is that we do not know the absolute truth.
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Mb217
Inner circle
V.I.P. ;)
5745 Posts
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Posted: May 17, 2012 7:28am
Mostly all the same tools and environments used different ways (methods), builds varying houses. Both of these effects sound good to me and clearly work as they have been used as pet effects for some time now. There's a lot to learn here, not so much in the handlings but that everyone can create and be successful at it if they have a mind to, the big, small and all of us. Ain't God grand?
*Check out my latest Crimp Change - REDUX! and other fine magic at www.vinnymarini.com
"Not much new under the sun I hear but under the moon, well who knows, that just might be a horse of a different color." -Mb
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