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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
OK Comments Welcome, I managed to complete my Levitation Illusion Website
http://www.levitationillusion.com It is the 3-in-1 illusion which I bought the market and contruction rights from Dutch (Saydean) It is now called the Multi-Purpose Levitation because it is so versitile. It is graphic intensive on purpose with pre-loading ability. 56K modems will not fair well there. Much of the animations are around 600K each Eventually, I will add movies on the illusion. Under technical, have I stated too much? Right now the web site will be going through some growing pains before I advertise it in the magic magazines. I do know it is not the best in graphic design, however, I wanted to display many of the MPL capabilities. I will redesign the banner giving the site a little more punch.
Dennis Michael
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Chris Stolz Inner circle Mississauga, Ontario 1958 Posts |
Although I do like the idea of the curtains opening, I think that it is a little intensive for some modems. I am on a cable modem and I had to wait for it to slowly open. I would suggest setting it up to immediately display the image. Perhaps some thumbnails that enlarge like a rollover image?
You've got a great prop on your hands. I'd make the website as user friendly as possible to ensure that you're open to all possible customers. I did enjoy the little clip of the magician saying, "RISE!....Oops!" Best of luck, Chris.
Chris Stolz
BLACK ART BOOK: Hiding In The Shadows. |
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magicmanrob Regular user 158 Posts |
Den we bought the plans from Dutch but have not yet gotten it built yet as we have been extremely busy so far. When I clicked on the link to see the site it comes up as a dead page not found.
Never mind we were have cable problems site looks great now you got me wanting to get to my workshop and to get after it. |
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The Drake Inner circle 2274 Posts |
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On 2005-07-02 01:29, DenDowhy wrote: Hi Ken, I have to agree with Chris. The loading time could be shortened greatly by deleting the curtain opening effect. The animations are good but get those videos up there ASAP. Although theres lots of " atta-boys" that get passed around the Café here regards new designs or illusions ...the BUYING customer wants to see the real thing and a video is going to sell your product 100 times faster than an animation. Yes...the techinal page is to technical. You should remove the info like " number of bolts" and simply say revelant things like ( travels light, assembles easily , works with any assistant up to ??? lbs ) Good Luck, Tim |
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
Shucks, the curtain opening and closing looked so cool.I will delete them and make those web changes but making the video are not in the immediate future since I got a wedding in 2 weeks to get prepared for...MY daughte's weddig not mine.
Hopefully I am looking for comments on the concept of what this Multi-Purpose Levitation can do.
Dennis Michael
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The Drake Inner circle 2274 Posts |
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On 2005-07-02 11:44, DenDowhy wrote: Hi Ken, I know what you mean regards the curtains. I bet you spent a lot of time making that effect. Regards what the MPL can do. As someone who loves any type of levitation it interests me...BUT....I'm skeptical. ( Again this is talking from a shoppers view ) The illusion seems to be able to do SOOOO much that it seems wonderful..BUT we've all been lured by pretty pictures and then got stuck with a joke in the past. I would have to see the effect performed before I would ever buying any illusion. There might be others who will purchase illusions based on descriptions, computer renderings or drawings but I'm not one of them. Until you get some videos online a few performance photos would greatly help show what the customer can expect the illusion to look like. It will only take one sale to some magician who makes a video or takes good photos and the sales will begin to flow. I can imagine that you have you hands full with the upcoming wedding and I hope you sell lots of the MPLs so you can start making the payments on the cost of the wedding..LOL Until you have the time to take photos or video maybe others who have performed the effect when it was the 3 in 1 will be so kind to email you some photos of them performing it. Best, Tim |
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
I made those changes and I will make those videos, without sound and all the glammer of a stage performance. A technical video so to speak, before going to the magazines.
I know Dutch has the video of Lorraine doing the vertical lift, maybe I can get him to find it for me. I thought I saved it on my hard drive but didn't. I made the above changes as requested for speed, it took several million bytes off the loads.
Dennis Michael
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The Drake Inner circle 2274 Posts |
Whoops!!!
Sorry Den.....I referred to you twice as Ken. Oh Well...I bet you've been called worse!..LOL. Best, Tim |
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Donald Dunphy Inner circle Victoria, BC, Canada 7563 Posts |
Den -
It's a good start. Some things to improve are: - Have a live video, or real photos, of the prop being used. The animation makes it look like an expensive "pipe dream", which we know is not true. Let me give you an analogy... what if you demonstrated on your birthday site, that you do the chair suspension with the birthday boy, and you only used animation to show that? A little lacking, isn't it? - You ABSOLUTELY MUST have some testimonials on there! This is a prop that has been around for quite some time, even though you have improved on it. Ask Dutch if you can borrow some of his testimonials about the prop. A video and testimonials are going to be the most powerful influencers for selling this prop. - The text (flash) opening page, is much too text intensive for it's length. Have some photos interspersed with it, to maintain attention. - Fix the typos. I found about 10 of them. 1) "Oops" is spelled wrong on the comedy levitation animation. Should not be "Opps". 2) On the Chair Levitation animation, "accessory" is spelled wrong. You have "assesory". 3) "person" spelled wrong in the technical information page. You have "persoan". Also, what is "workaround"? Quote:
(Recommended weight lift, (50 pounds lighter than your Stage Hand) Although a workaround is possible 175 lb persoan was easily lifted by me.) 4) "Pillar" is spelled wrong thoughout the site. Should not be "piller". 5) the word "is" is misspelled on the technical information page, as is "illusion". You have "ia" and "Illuion". Quote:
Supplied ia a square plate for a Flying Princess/Magic Carpet, Piller or Stool, Illuion. 6) the word "supply" is misspelled on the technical information page. You have "suppy". Quote:
A Board is Supplied for Chair Suspension to Levitation Illusion, you suppy any chair 7) "requires" is misspelled on the FAQs page. Quote:
A: No, it is a Steel Stage Illusion capable of lifting a person, or object numerous ways and requirees a backdrop to use. 8) "than" is misspelled on the FAQs page. Quote:
A: Although it is designed to lift over a 300 lb person, the lighter the person the easier it will be to perform. A real heavy person will require weight tobe added on the specially designed handle for this. I have and can lift a 175 lb person with no difficulty because I am much heavier thean that and my weight is the counter balance in this instance. 9) There are a few typos in this section of the FAQs page. "Pilliar" should be "Pillar", "assessories" should be "accessories", "Illusionist" should be "Illusionists", and "assesories" should be "accessories". Quote:
A: Any Chair Pilliar, Saw Horse or contraption you want to use can be used with the Multi-Purpose Illusion, and not necessary to supply. You will receive the necessary assessories for lifting objects and you could duplicate them or purchase them at Home Depot. Because Illusionist already have Backdrops, these will be listed as assesories and a seperate purchase, if you want the BA cloth for the Asrah Levitation. Hope that this helps. - Donald
Donald Dunphy is a Victoria Magician, British Columbia, Canada.
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LeeAlex2002 Inner circle 1007 Posts |
Is it fair to re-name this illusion and market it as something new.
I am unclear as to whether you are selling the same illusion as Saydean, or whether there is something more? I would skip the intro altogether and integrate this with the actual content of the index. Purcahsers want to get to the goods. Even on cable it is still taking sometime to load. There is a java script that you can add for repeat vsitors that automatically skips the intro afer the first visit. FAQ - most of the answers seem to be negative, which does not make for good sales. How about creating questions which have positive responses. I live abroad, but the only way to get the price is to call you in the States - alternative way of finding out, or a direct price on the website. Q: How Quickly can I get the Multi-Purpose Illusion? A: Each MPL is custom designed so allow at least 6 weeks for delivery. Are they really custom designed or built to order? I think Donald has dealt with the text part of the website. I am interested in the plans for this. How are they presented - downlaod, booklet, printed sheets. how much information is given? Will I really be able to have this built? Does it take six weeks to build if I were to have it made for myself? What are the restrictions - how far away from the backdrop can the object be? |
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Donald Dunphy Inner circle Victoria, BC, Canada 7563 Posts |
There are some more typos than the ones I have posted so far. However, we can address those after this first batch of changes are done.
Also, Den, you might wish to point out what the three main performances of the original 3-in-1 levitation were, and now what the new performances are that you have added some new stuff to make it the MPL. Like a compare and contrast chart between the two. - Donald
Donald Dunphy is a Victoria Magician, British Columbia, Canada.
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The Drake Inner circle 2274 Posts |
Hi Den,
I looked at the new changes ( without the curtains opening ) and it really made a big differnence in download time. Now I can just simply do a mouse over and the various effects instantly appear from behind the curtain. This is much more pleasing to the " show me" appetite that we all have when browsing a website. The fun part is that the curtains are closed before the mouse-over so they still give the effect of opening when you do the mouse-over. ( not an animated opening but a good effect just the same ) I found the page much more interesting to view and went through all the performance options available this time while on my first viewing I got tired of waiting for the curtains to open and didn't browse all the effects. Best, Tim |
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hugmagic Inner circle 7655 Posts |
Ken, I have not checked out the site yet as I do have dial up. I know it will take me forever to load it.
If the site is requires cable to operate reasonably fast, I see that as a downside. someone told me that you must design a site for the slowest computer. That may be overkill but I suspect part of it is true. Richard
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
www.hughesmagic.com email-hugmagic@raex.com Write direct as I will be turning off my PM's. |
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
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On 2005-07-02 14:01, LeeAlex2002 wrote: Thanks Lee for the comments which I take seriously. When I bought the 3-in-1 from Saydean (Dutch) years ago, we keep in contact since then and I was telling him the things I was doing with it and he suggested the 360 spin and described it to me. The 3-in-1 originally meant Horizontal Levitation, Vertical Levitation, and Flying Carpet Levitation. Then added was the vertical 360 spin and my modified plate to do other things and to make object raise. I asked Dutch if he minded if I changed the name because the 3-in-1 was so limited in scope. His reply was since he sold me all the rights with it (Recently and Agreement of sale contract) I can do anything including useage of all photos and pictures that he had. I am selling the same illusion but with added attachments and accessories to do more. True it could be called 2-in-1 because all the levitations are either vertically or horizontally. However, it has the capabilities of doing so much more and really for a stage only effect, it subs as a sword suspension, chair suspension add some BA and it becomes a formless Ashra, no need to by all these seperate illusions when the visual outcome to the audience is even more powerful. I will also make changes so an AC/DC conncetion can be made and make it as an attachment so it can do more like remote levitation. The idea is really feasible and I've tore apart the actuator to my Gamolo to give it a try. A new non movable base will also be added so a floor up levitation can be made. The concept is spend less, carry less and do so much more. Yes the Chair suspansion can be performed at a birthday and the MPL cannot, so there are some limitations. (Lavish Birthday Party at a place with a stage... Yes). I still and always will give credit to Dutch for developing this wonderful illusion, and he was very happy that I asked if he would consider selling me the rights when he put it on the market. It is an evolving illusion and a group of us were discussing ways to use this and the suggestions like a spirit house where the audience volunteer floats as the Assistant is tied up next to him is still tied up. I also like the calling it the MPL for short and it's long version of the name. Richard, I have cut the time down tremendously. Now try look at the individual sites and while you read the other graphics are preloading to increase speed of the load. Donald, I did correct the typos I think I got them, if you find more PM me please and I'll get to it. I do like the Compare and Contrast idea of the two, will get to that and the work around means adding weights which it is designed to do for heavier persons. If one can avoid this it makes for a smoother transition from the lift and adding or removing weights.
Dennis Michael
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George Ledo Magic Café Columnist SF Bay Area 3042 Posts |
I agree with the others: the site loads much faster now than the first time I visited it.
Should "Formally 3-in-1 Levitation" be "Formerly 3-in-1 Levitation"?
That's our departed buddy Burt, aka The Great Burtini, doing his famous Cups and Mice routine
www.georgefledo.net Latest column: "Sorry about the photos in my posts here" |
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
George, Correction made! Thanks
Dennis Michael
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parsimagic New user 97 Posts |
Dennis
The changes you have made so far are definitely an improvement. The faster loads allowed me to look up each page. When I first looked at the site previously I stopped looking at the pages because of the time involved. But really I would not advertise this site until you have at least one video performance. This, of course, is an illusion. The fundamental question a buyer will have is "How good is the illusion," ie will it fool an audience. Without a video and possibly testimonials there is no way to answer that question adequately. I personally am interested in purchasing plans. Good luck Kia Parsi |
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Tony S Special user New York 582 Posts |
Den -
Where the site reads "Supplied ia a square plate for a Flying Princess/Magic Carpet, Pillar or Stool, Illusion" - I'm thinking 'ia' should be 'is'. I agree with some other posts that real video and testimonials will help you sell this. I think you should add some info about set up and break down time, as well as the size of the illusion when broken down. "Can fit into a car" is a rather vague description. Other than that I think the site looks good. Tony |
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
Yes I agree with you all on the importance of video and testimonials
Will if fool an audience? has been asked several times. At my SAM club, when I first brought out the Princess Flying Carpet illusion, you could see some of the oldtimers who have had this and used it looked disinterested. Some were even having sidebar converstions in the back of the room (A common problem). When my son started levitating, you could hear a pin drop. It caught them all by surprise. I did get a lot of positive feed back after the show, one of the most common was, my flying carpet doesn't do that! That is when I got the idea of doing the same for my chair suspension and my sword suspension. For a magic audience, it turns heads and it is unexpected especially when many have seen or know how those standard illusions work. For an audience who hasn't seen the effect, just when you are at the peak, the envelope is pushed futher! How can that be? There is "power" in combining several illusions into one! This is what I like most about the Multi-Purpose Levitation and something I learned from Doug Henning, many years ago. It is a trick I learned from Doug Henning and one I loved watching him do numerous times. Take a magician down the "beaten path" then surprise or WOW him with the unexpected. It's also the basic formula for comedy writing, lead them in one direction then hit them with the punch line which is in the opposite path their mind is expecting. My Favoriate Doug Henning story is... I was expecting the bouquet of flowers after his performance of the Zombie but noooo, he produced a Bald Eagle. What a power punch! That memory lasted me a lifetime. I know there was a video if this illusion on the internet, one used to be on Dutch's web site but that site is down and he doesn't have that clip any more. Has anyone save it? Den
Dennis Michael
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The Donster Inner circle 4817 Posts |
Any Information on the Comedy Levitation and How Much is it ?
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