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Dennis Michael

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Posted: Oct 25, 2005 7:43am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dennis Michael  

OK all you Northern East Coast Magicians, Bob Little and Mike Miller put togeter another Bob Little fantastic one-day convention.

Bob is getting up there in the years, he has no knowledge of computers, but boy can he work those beads on his Chinese Abacus. So go soon to one of these conventions because no telling how many years it may still be held.

Are you going?

See http://www.BobLittlesSuperSunday.com for directions.

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yosef_dov

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Posted: Nov 1, 2005 1:26pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of yosef_dov  

So far I'm on track to be at this one... I might even be bringing some stuff for the auction, like a brand new Ultra Smoke 2000, and Peter Loughran's original Elevator and the book, etc.

Joe N
krisnevling

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clearfield, pa
128 Posts
Posted: Nov 1, 2005 7:03pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of krisnevling  

I'll be there!!!


I am 27 years old and have been performing magic for 12 years. My main interest is in card magic, but I love all aspects of it. I love to discuss magic with anyone. Feel free to email me anytime.
EddyRay

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Posted: Nov 2, 2005 5:16pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of EddyRay  

See you there!

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cruznbye

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Fairless Hills Pa
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Posted: Nov 6, 2005 11:13pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of cruznbye  

I will be there too can't wait to meet everyone
Dave Scribner

Assistant Manager
Lake Hopatcong, NJ
4723 Posts
Posted: Nov 7, 2005 1:15pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dave Scribner  

I can't think of a better way to spend the weekend. I'll be arriving on Saturday afternoon. Hope to see all you guys there.

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Dennis Michael

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Atco, NJ
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Posted: Nov 8, 2005 9:53am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dennis Michael  

I plan to be there.
Dennis

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magic4u02

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Philadelphia, PA
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Posted: Nov 8, 2005 8:32pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of magic4u02  

I will always be there as Long as Wuld Man Wild Bob Little is still having them. Bob is a great guy and this convention has always been so much fun over the years. I try not to miss any of them.

Bopb has also been very good with my SYM group and having special things for them and even allowing some of my students to perform in the evening shows over the years.

I will be there and will certainly look for you guys. If I do not recognize you, just simply stop me and introduce yourself. It would be a pleasure to meet and chat with you all.

Kyle

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Dennis Michael

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Atco, NJ
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Posted: Nov 12, 2005 4:58am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dennis Michael  

Well, this week is the time to get your auction items for sale. Bob's Auctions are one of the best in the area.

Right now I plan to be there, providing there are no emergencies around the house.

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nums

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Posted: Nov 12, 2005 7:42pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of nums  

I am planning on going....

NUMS
Dennis Michael

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Atco, NJ
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Posted: Nov 13, 2005 7:52am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dennis Michael  

Survival Guide to Bob Little's Super Sunday

For those who haven't been there:

Get there early if you want a front row seat. People save them. There is usually a handicap section.

Get there early to look over the auction items so when it comes up for bid, you have put aside money for it. The Auction is a hit or miss, some items go very cheaply while others, well, bidding wars occur on really desirable products.

Have plenty of money, because there are up to 16 dealers, each really doesn't compete with the other dealers. The top seven have been to just about every one. Here are a list of some of the regulars..

  • Bob Little's Guaranteed Magic (of course)
  • Denny & Lee (Baltimore)
  • Marty Martini
  • Scott Correll
  • Hank Moorehouse
  • Fred Mitchell (Books, DVD & Videos- from NJ)
  • Meir Yedid
  • Jim McCarthy
  • Ed White (Allentown)
  • East Coast Magic


Did I say take more money, Many times I run out of money at the auction. So many good items. (Know your prices, if if you don't ask the person next to you!)

If you plan to buy big, bring that Van, twice I loaded mine!

Bob offers Champange and his famous Chocolate, as well as cake. So your sugar really goes up!

Dinner is on your own, so ask early if you want to eat with some of the guests.

As for performers. Many times the performers are newcomers and really sharp, as well as some classics (Yes, seasoned pros) Most of the time the shows are really good as well as the lecture. (Very rare that something goes wrong). Mike Miller plans the shows and he is sharp in finding the right mix.

Please do socialize, this is probably what this Mini-Convention is about, getting to meet many new magical friends. I get to meet, Denny Haney (Puck He's getting married this week so he probably won't be there, Denny will be at that wedding, but the question will be will he miss Bob Little's event for the first time!), I get to meet Marty Martini, one of the sharpest card pros and historians out there, I get to see all the cool stuff Scott Corell has. Those comedy props that enhance the show for kids!

Well, Hope to see you all there!

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Dave Scribner

Assistant Manager
Lake Hopatcong, NJ
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Posted: Nov 15, 2005 7:32am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dave Scribner  

Great review of the convention, Dennis. As a previous performer at Bob's, I can vouch for the variety of entertainers that Mike books. On the night we performed, there was a comedian, an international act, as well as Bob himself.

For just $35, this is one of the best one day events around.

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MattWayne

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Posted: Nov 15, 2005 3:25pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of MattWayne  

I'm a past performer at Bob's and I just fealt at home. Unlike any other convention. Even though my act wasn't like it usually is- people were very forgiving! Anyone who knows me knows I'm not a convention performer. Ha- but I enjoyed it entirely. Got critique and opinions. Some were valuable; some were 'eh what I'd expect. Got to meet a lot of old friends. Tony Spina was there- always a great guy; Capehart was also nice to see there. As well as some other notables. Hopefully will still be going on when I get back in the states in a few years! Best regards,

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nostrings

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Newport News, VA
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Posted: Nov 18, 2005 2:38pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of nostrings  

Who is lecturing?

I'll be there anyone else going?
magic4u02

Eternal Order
Philadelphia, PA
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Posted: Nov 19, 2005 9:44am    Reply with quote   View Profile of magic4u02  

I will be there as I have not missed a Bob Little convention in years. I also will have a lot of my SYM kids there as well. It is a great way for them to meet other magicians and grow and learn. I hope to see you there and get a chance to talk with you all.

Kyle

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EddyRay

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Posted: Nov 19, 2005 10:40am    Reply with quote   View Profile of EddyRay  

Hi Kyle,

I will also be there, are you brining any of your artwork? I am also hoping to have some more chat time with Kris Nevling. Hope to meet others there as well.

Should be a SUPER SUNDAY!

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magic4u02

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Philadelphia, PA
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Posted: Nov 19, 2005 4:46pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of magic4u02  

Hey there. Yes I will be there all day. I am not bringing my prints with me, however, I always carry my small portfolio with me incase anyone cares to check out my illustration or logo design work. That I will have with me. I will also be placing out flyers for our upcoming theater show "Fantasy of Illusion" playing at the Center for the Arts on Main theater in Quakertown. That is a show we are doing November 26th and I would like to give others the opportunity of checking it out if they would like. I look forward to seeing you at the convention tomorrow. It is always a good time.

Kyle

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Dennis Michael

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Atco, NJ
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Posted: Nov 19, 2005 6:35pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dennis Michael  

Well, all appears to be well around my house, so I'll be there tomorrow (Sunday 11/20)

Dennis

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magic4u02

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Posted: Nov 19, 2005 6:52pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of magic4u02  

Look forward to seeing you tomorrow Den. It should be a great time as always. Bob puts on a good party. hehe

Kyle

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Glenn Watson

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Posted: Nov 21, 2005 12:19am    Glenn Watson is on-line  Reply with quote   View Profile of Glenn Watson  

Great convention ! This one had the best evening show of any I have attended.
There was a 12 year old girl who did a great dove act.The Magician from Fairbanks alaska
Has a hilarious act, I wont even attemptto spell his name.
Ths time 3 close up areas were added.I noticed for the first time no raffel took place.
The only thing that could have been improved was the lecture. It was good ,However the lecturer did the tricks from the lecture in the close up portion that preceded his lecture. It is my beliefe thay this detracted
from the impact and suprize of his lecture.
This is not to say the lecture wasn't good or well taught, but everyone saw the same tricks twice in 20 minutes.
dreid007

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Posted: Nov 21, 2005 1:30am    Reply with quote   View Profile of dreid007  

The young girl stole the show I was happy with her and chriss capeharts performances the rest of the acts were so so

dreid
krisnevling

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clearfield, pa
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Posted: Nov 21, 2005 3:32am    Reply with quote   View Profile of krisnevling  

Just got home. 5 hour drive, but it was all worth it. I had a blast. Hope everyone like the shows.

I am 27 years old and have been performing magic for 12 years. My main interest is in card magic, but I love all aspects of it. I love to discuss magic with anyone. Feel free to email me anytime.
Dennis Michael

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Atco, NJ
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Posted: Nov 21, 2005 6:34am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dennis Michael  

The Young Nelson girl was really good and showing a lot of promise for the future. If she got just a little professional training from a guy like Jeff McBride, she would top the charts for "Young Entertainer of the Year." She had form, looks, personality, skill and the audience loved her.

Yes, bob did have a drawing just befor the Auction, and I didn't win!

The auction did not have a lot of big stuff, but it did have a lot of videos for sales and grab bags (Boxes of mixed items). There was a couple of new entertainers who were buying up a lot of stuff. I wish them the best. They got some really great props for at least half of the original value.

During the lecture, there was a bit of talking in the back that made it difficult for some to hear the lecture. It was difficult to kept it down because so many were having a great time. It is such a nice social of magicians.

The best thing was meeting so many magicians from around the area, meeting Denny Haney, and Marty Martini because I don't get to see them that often anymore.

One of the great conversations was with John Bundy and Morgan on their Halloween Show in Missori. Morgan was telling me that their sponsor let them have free-rein and focus on an adult Halloween Show and not be constricted in what they did so they let all the good gory stuff loose. The buzz saw with spray jets of blood, and spray water toward the audience getting them to think they were getting bombarded with blood. That must of been really cool to see that audience reactions.

It was great seeing Kyle there and wer had some great conversations regarding Kids magic. (We do think alike here.) Some were excited aout this month's local KIDabra meeting related to developing school shows.

It just was a great time. I had a blast. Bought some new stuff mostly books. (Marty Martini card rising was just great so I got that too!)

Dennis

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yosef_dov

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Posted: Nov 21, 2005 8:00am    Reply with quote   View Profile of yosef_dov  

Greetings...

I was there and was looking to meet Dennis and Kyle but I never spotted you! Too bad we didn't have name tags at least... Kyle, was that your flier for an illusion show with another gent? I grabbed one of them... and I grabbed the Kidabra flier, although since it's on a Monday night I don't think I'll make it either...

And hey, Kris-- you were awesome with the cards (I was the guy wearing the black Starscapes hat). I would've like to see you give a lecture!

Unfortunately I didn't make the shows (I had to get up at 4:35 AM Monday)...

My auction stuff was the very last box, and they weren't all that enthusiastic at that point of going through another box-- several items they ignored completely (?), and a couple the guy picked up, said "I don't know this one" and threw it back in the box... one was Anton's Meeting Point Card Through Window, which I'm sure would have sold if anyone knew it was there! I also had a brand new ultra smoke 2000 unit and a Peter Loughran Elevator with book... oh well, I guess it's off to the for sale boards...

Joe N
krisnevling

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Posted: Nov 21, 2005 11:59am    Reply with quote   View Profile of krisnevling  

Maybe next year. I'm putting together a great lecture and hope you can make it.

I am 27 years old and have been performing magic for 12 years. My main interest is in card magic, but I love all aspects of it. I love to discuss magic with anyone. Feel free to email me anytime.
Dave Scribner

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Lake Hopatcong, NJ
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Posted: Nov 21, 2005 3:15pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dave Scribner  

Every year we all talk about meeting each other at Bob's and for some reason, we never all link up. I'm sure I passed most of you guys and probable even bumped shoulders.

I thought the lecture was lacking something. Maybe it was just because it was a series of effects shown one after the other rather than a planned lecture. It was Joe's first however, and it takes a lot of guts just to get up in front of a group of magicians.

Cherrie Nelson had some good moves for a 12 year old. I've been on that stage and because of it's size, it's difficult to really do your best but she handled it well. Her dad did mention that she's been performing since she was 4 and with that said, I think she should have been a little more polished than she was.

I enjoyed the comic from Alaska. There were several racial comments that I don't think would have been as successful had it not been that Chris Capehart was the MC and set the mood as only he can.

The illusionists, the Nelson's, started out OK with a theme to the broom suspension but then it just seemed like "let me show you another illusion". The music was overbearingly loud especially since they were talking at the same time. I don't think anyone past the first row heard anything that was said during the sub trunk. Speaking of which, timing is an essential part of the sub trunk and from my view point half way back, there was a moment when both of them were visible just before the switch. Kudos to them though for doing illusions of that size on such a small stage.

Noone does the rings like Chris Capehart in my opinion. As many times as I've seen him perform, I'm always amazed. What he does is impossible but then isn't that what magic is supposed to be?

All in all, it was a great day as always. Meeting new friends and talking to old ones makes it all worth while.

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inidyls

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Posted: Nov 21, 2005 4:10pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of inidyls  

Can anybody here be honest with themselves. Super Sunday is getting worse and worse every year. I love Bob as much as everybody else but come on this convention was bad.

1. The auction was horrible, some people thought they were bidding on something else than gave back what they won, dvd's were auctioned with no dvds in the cases, and to top that the items that were auctioned were kind of lame or Hank rushes through everything.

2. The close up performers were good, actually real good but they had four at one time, there was no communication on - should the people move to the other tables or should the performers move to the other tables, so not all the performers were watched which was a shame because they were good.

3. The lecture was horrible, note he is good at close-up but his lecture skills were horrible. Halve the people got up and left. Not everybody in attendance can consume that much sleight of hand. A good lecturer will mix it up a bit.

4. admission - either lower the price for the acts he's been getting or raise the price and get better performers (or cut costs by not serving stale cake and 99 cent champagne)what about paying the money for two good acts instead of 5 bad acts. I went to a convention last week in reading and those guys put on a good convention, heck they have an all you can eat dinner included in there price and there covention is still cheaper than Bobs.

5. the dealers - the same dealers every year with the same old stuff, how about a change of dealers every now and then.

There's a lot more I can add but I won't.
And I have discussed this with Bob earlier but his reply is the cost of the room.
come on give me a break.
Dave Scribner

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Lake Hopatcong, NJ
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Posted: Nov 21, 2005 5:40pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dave Scribner  

Well, first of all, you can't control what is in the auction. It's not a dealer showroom and people will try to get rid of almost anything.

As for items being returned, who's fault is that? The lady wasn't paying attention and bid on the wrong item. I think it was a good gesture to take it back and give it to the next bidder. As for the DVD's being empty, one of two things happened. Either the seller didn't look and believed the cases to have the DVD's in them, or he was trying to get away with something. I hope it wasn't the latter but I also hope that someone talked to him about it.

I too think they spend too much time on some items and not enough on others but they do have a time limit and try to get everyones stuff auctioned off. Sorting through "bags of stuff" and describing each item in the bag is a time consumer at every auction.

Again, the lecturer presented an unprepared lecture. He is accomplished at coin magic however, much of what he was doing is more advanced than the average magician sitting there has mastered.

Believe me, the fees paid to the performers is not that much. Lowing it would result in even worse acts. Bob tries to present a variety of acts and many times it's good exposure for new performers.

I think most attendees are looking for an evening show with variety. Limiting it to just 2 acts might not be the way to go. Mike Miller does a great job each year finding talent (or lack of talent some times)to make it different. One day conventions like Bob's and a few others are sometimes the only chance we get to see acts that aren't out in the foreground.

Advertising, performer fees and two hotel meeting rooms take a lot of money. The admission of $30 really isn't that far out of the norm.

Even though the dealers appear to be your best friend all day, they are there to make money. You're not going to get a dealer that has to travel a long distance to come to a one day convention if they think they aren't going to make a buck. There are the "old stand bys" that make the convention what it is.

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magic4u02

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Posted: Nov 21, 2005 8:38pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of magic4u02  

I will absolutely agree that Mike Miller should be given an award for what he manages to bring to the even ing show on such a limited budget. He goes out of his way to bring talent to the stage with what he has to offer and I commend him for that. He is a true professional in every form of the word and strives to make Bobs convention as best as he can.

Joe:
I was looking for you as well and thought I had seen you but you vanished on me before I got a chance to get over there. Yes, the flyer on the table was one I designed myself for the full theater production show we are doing this coming saturday for the family crowd audience. We teamed up with another husband and wife magic team that we are good friends with, and Fantasy of Illusion should be a lot of fun and a great experience for us.

We would LOVE to have you come and see the show if you have the time. Shows are at 2pm and 7pm and will run about 90 minutes and will have an intermission as well.

Let me know if you are thinking of coming, and I will be sure to meet you before or after the show to shake your hand and such. My pleasure.

Kyle

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Dennis Michael

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Posted: Nov 21, 2005 9:55pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dennis Michael  

Mike Miller didn't book all the acts this year. Mike has going way out to make the show the best for the limited budget he has to work with.

For $30!!!! I bought one item at the auction and the value I save and the increased value of the purchase was double the admission price.

There was a lot of good stuff sold but you needed to know that in advance. A suggestion would be to do it like KIDabra. Display the auction lots an hour ahead of time and let everyone look them over before bidding. It would go faster because most would know what they wanted. No bags, open boxes.

Bob's Super Sunday, is a 12 hour one-day social where professionals can buy books, silks, new products, meet with Marty Martini, Denny Haney, Hank Moorehouse, just to name a few.

Wouldn't it be a perfect world if every show was perfect, every act was top knotch, we had Copperfield, Burton and McBride for the evening show.

The snack was good, the wine was gone, and the gatering of friends was really nice. I got to talk to so many, including, Bundy & Morgan, Dave Scribner
, Kyle, Ron Geffories, Chris Caphart, Rosie, of course Bob Little, Mike Miller, the Nelsons, and so many more local friends.

I had a blast watching this young man levitate himself up on a chair and then slowly float down. A great effect done many times for all to WOW over.

Part of me says Bob should raise his prices because it would eliminate the less serious attendees, and use the extra money to for higher priced acts. Every time I have attended, the money I saved or earned from the auction was more then entrance fee. I've even come home with more money then I went with and still bought stuff. $30 is really cheap!

The couple of high priced illusion items I bought in the past paid for Bob's Convention many times over. Its all in perspective of what one wants and is looking for at Bob's one-day magic social! To me he is undercharging!

By the way, my calendar is already marked for June 20th, 2006 for his next Super Sunday, and I really don't care who the acts are!

What price is worth professionals talking with professionals, getting tips and ideas from each other, laughing and just enjoying the day! (It's a lot different than the 3 hour monthly magic club.)

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