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nucinud
Inner circle
New York, New York
1277 Posts
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Posted: Nov 21, 2005 6:54am
I was at an antique show yesterday and this guy had some old tricks and I found some cufflinks that had a miniture picture of a Thurston poster, which bought.
BUT, here is the kicker, at a different booth a lady had metal TT. I asked her how much. She says she does not what it is, I said I did not ask that, I just asked how much, I know what it is. The price tag was missing, so she said $2. She wanted to know what it was, she thought it was used in factory or office work. I said if tell you I have to kill you (with a smile). My wife backed me up, she also said I can't tell her.
"We are what we pretend to be" Kurt Vonnegut, jr.
Now U C It Now U Don't
Harry Mandel
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Chance Wolf
Inner circle
Chance Wolf
2247 Posts
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Posted: Nov 24, 2005 1:20am
Metal TT are simply the coolest. I began using one and still do to this day. They are great when you run into a smoker...which is pretty hard these days!
Creator of Wacky Wolf Productions & Fine Collectibles
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Magiguy
Inner circle
Seattle, WA
4562 Posts
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Posted: Nov 24, 2005 7:53pm
I didn't realize metal TTs were so rare. I have two but always favored my Vernet's. What am I missing? Are the metal TTs no longer available?
Magic of Japan
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mrmystic
Regular user
Chicago
198 Posts
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Posted: Dec 2, 2005 8:38am
If you want to do the putting out a lit cig trick without a metal TT, just put a little foil in the end.
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Rennie
Inner circle
Manteca, California
1857 Posts
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Posted: Dec 2, 2005 9:23am
I found the metal TT"s were always too small, I also am able to extinguish cigarettes in the Vernet style without foil. However the foil is a great idea..
I was also under the impression that the metal ones were not considered collectible, any info on this?
Rennie
The effect is the important thing, how you achieve it is not.......
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nucinud
Inner circle
New York, New York
1277 Posts
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Posted: Dec 2, 2005 6:38pm
I just had to have it and at $2, it was a no brainer. She kept asking me what it was. She did not have a clue. The story alone was worth the $2.
"We are what we pretend to be" Kurt Vonnegut, jr.
Now U C It Now U Don't
Harry Mandel
www.mandelmagic.com
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Mehtas
Inner circle
England, UK
1624 Posts
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Posted: Dec 4, 2005 7:49am
I have very old copper TT from Davenports. I've always kept it becouse its from someone who got me into magic (long time ago)
Anybody knows how to produce a huge puff of smoke from the hankey when you push the lit cigarette in. ??
I've seen a magician do it and it looked fantastic.
A Magazine is a bunch of printed pages that tell you what's coming in the next issue.
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Bob Sanders
Grammar Supervisor
Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama
19308 Posts
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Posted: Dec 10, 2005 11:05pm
One advantage of the metal TT is that with a wick and a little cotton soaked with a very small amount of lighter fluid, you can lift and move a flame from one candle to another.
You will need to drill a small hole.
It does get hot. Hold it flame up always.
Bob
Magic By Sander
Bob Sanders
Magic By Sander / The Amazed Wiz
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calamari
Elite user
The San Francisco Bay Area
428 Posts
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Posted: Jan 31, 2006 12:05pm
Question? was the tt you bought the same size as Vernet or short maybe 1 inch ?
"I came, I saw, SHE conquered." (The original Latin seems to have been garbled.)
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nucinud
Inner circle
New York, New York
1277 Posts
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Posted: Jan 31, 2006 4:55pm
It was the short one.
"We are what we pretend to be" Kurt Vonnegut, jr.
Now U C It Now U Don't
Harry Mandel
www.mandelmagic.com
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Bob Sanders
Grammar Supervisor
Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama
19308 Posts
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Posted: Feb 6, 2006 2:24pm
The extruded aluminum thumb tips were the rule when I started in magic in 19XX.
I understand that in the Middle East there are still some real silver ones covered over with glass for color. If you see one, I'm good for the $2.00!
Bob Sanders
Magic By Sander
Bob Sanders
Magic By Sander / The Amazed Wiz
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SilkMagic@DoveLite.com
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Mysterioii
Regular user
118 Posts
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Posted: Feb 23, 2006 1:31pm
I had a metal one as a kid (in the 70s or very early 80s I guess). Since I had kid thumbs it didn't fit too well, I tried to bend it in some to make it fit better, and screwed it all up. I haven't found one in years. Somewhere in my parents' house my first vinyl thumbtip is still hidden inside a wall, where I had been playing with a hole where a bannister had been attached and it fell in. I couldn't understand why my dad didn't cut another hole in the wall to get it out for me...
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nucinud
Inner circle
New York, New York
1277 Posts
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Posted: Feb 23, 2006 3:31pm
After I found the one I bought, a lady came into my local Magic Shop showing off some old tricks she had. And she had a metal TT as well. She was looking to trade, but the manager was not there and she did not want come back. So she left, no deals transpired.
"We are what we pretend to be" Kurt Vonnegut, jr.
Now U C It Now U Don't
Harry Mandel
www.mandelmagic.com
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rbattle
Loyal user
257 Posts
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Posted: Dec 31, 2006 9:32pm
I have the one my Great Uncle left me. He did 2 tricks with one being burned and restored hank. It is the short one.
Robert
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Stevethomas
Inner circle
Southern U.S.A.
3566 Posts
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Posted: Dec 31, 2006 11:16pm
The ones I still have around came from Adams magic sets/effects. I distinctly remember one with the magic set that looked like a wooden suitcase (cardboard) with a handle on the side from Adams. Still have all the stuff, and wish I had the case.
Steve
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Servante
Inner circle
1267 Posts
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Posted: Jan 2, 2007 8:57pm
Hm. I started with metal ones. Just checked out my sock drawer (where I keep thumb tips  ) and found a short one and a long one that is probably a metal finger, rather than a thumb. Got some more around here somewhere.
I never liked 'em as well because I always carry a thumb tip in my pocket, and the paint wore off the metal ones pretty quickly (change and keys helping it along)
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Bob Sanders
Grammar Supervisor
Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama
19308 Posts
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Posted: Jan 12, 2007 7:58pm
I'll have to admit that the plastic models were great improvements in many ways. However, they are a trade off and there are tricks where the old metal ones worked better.
Plastic is definitely a better keeper in the pocket.
Bob Sanders
Magic By Sander
Bob Sanders
Magic By Sander / The Amazed Wiz
AmazedWiz@yahoo.com
SilkMagic@DoveLite.com
http://www.magicbysander.com/
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manal
Inner circle
York ,PA.
1357 Posts
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Posted: Jul 11, 2007 10:15pm
Bob, Will you share which tricks those are? I have a metal tip I bought for cig vanishes but would like to get more out of it. Maybe cig in coat?
Life is too important to take seriously.
james@jamesmanalli.com
www.jamesmanalli.com
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Bob Sanders
Grammar Supervisor
Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama
19308 Posts
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Posted: Jul 22, 2007 1:15pm
Manal,
I'm not trying to avoid your good question but I can't answer without exposure.
For one thing, Bottle from Napkin (now Bottle or Champaign from Silk) when performed in the 1400s worked much better than most "work-arounds" marketed today. Remember that the TT is not American. Even Marco Polo was late! More advanced cultures made them of brass and cloisonne'.
Others tricks use a broken guitar string. Does that start you scheming?
Bob Sanders
Magic By Sander
Bob Sanders
Magic By Sander / The Amazed Wiz
AmazedWiz@yahoo.com
SilkMagic@DoveLite.com
http://www.magicbysander.com/
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manal
Inner circle
York ,PA.
1357 Posts
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Posted: Jul 31, 2007 5:33pm
Bob,
Thank you for the reply. You have started the gears turning although I certainly do not have the knowledge you posses.
Life is too important to take seriously.
james@jamesmanalli.com
www.jamesmanalli.com
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JamesTong
Eternal Order
Malaysia
11210 Posts
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Posted: Aug 5, 2007 3:23pm
Is the metal TT still being sold today? Any dealer currently carrying them?
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manal
Inner circle
York ,PA.
1357 Posts
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Posted: Aug 9, 2007 1:05pm
Yes. I did a Google search for metal thumb tip to find the online dealer I got mine from. They are cheap but be aware they are very short in length compared to a Vernet.
Life is too important to take seriously.
james@jamesmanalli.com
www.jamesmanalli.com
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darrylasher
Regular user
179 Posts
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Posted: Aug 13, 2007 6:00pm
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On 2007-07-11 22:15, manal wrote:
Bob, Will you share which tricks those are? I have a metal tip I bought for cig vanishes but would like to get more out of it. Maybe cig in coat?
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A metal TT is great for a dollar bill in banana trick. Have someone inspect and hold a banana. Tell them it's your lunch. Vanish a signed dollar bill. After your previously sealed envelope is empty, and your wallet doesn't have the bill, you realize you are hungry. Ask for your lunch back. Don't peel is, just use tweezers "cut" the skin, and pull the bill out. Then you can hand the bill and banana back out for inspection.
I'm sure you can fill in the blanks, but a metal one works way better due to stiffness and being shorter.
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Stevethomas
Inner circle
Southern U.S.A.
3566 Posts
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Posted: Aug 13, 2007 10:26pm
In a bag of "accessories" I have in the Studio, I recently found a few of these, ranging from ones that look brand new, to some that have no flesh paint left on 'em. The short, very stubby ones to some longer ones that almost look like an entire thumb!
Steve
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manal
Inner circle
York ,PA.
1357 Posts
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Posted: Aug 13, 2007 11:47pm
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On 2007-08-13 18:00, darrylasher wrote:
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On 2007-07-11 22:15, manal wrote:
Bob, Will you share which tricks those are? I have a metal tip I bought for cig vanishes but would like to get more out of it. Maybe cig in coat?
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A metal TT is great for a dollar bill in banana trick. Have someone inspect and hold a banana. Tell them it's your lunch. Vanish a signed dollar bill. After your previously sealed envelope is empty, and your wallet doesn't have the bill, you realize you are hungry. Ask for your lunch back. Don't peel is, just use tweezers "cut" the skin, and pull the bill out. Then you can hand the bill and banana back out for inspection.
I'm sure you can fill in the blanks, but a metal one works way better due to stiffness and being shorter.
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Thank you,and they won't be left with a coat that reeks of cig smoke
Life is too important to take seriously.
james@jamesmanalli.com
www.jamesmanalli.com
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manal
Inner circle
York ,PA.
1357 Posts
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Posted: Aug 23, 2007 2:38pm
Tirofog has metal thumbtips that are 2.5 inches long.
Life is too important to take seriously.
james@jamesmanalli.com
www.jamesmanalli.com
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Startoker
New user
1 Post
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Posted: Jul 29, 2008 5:09pm
I've been looking for the old school short metal thumb tip. If anyone knows where to get one or has an old one laying around let me know. If the paint is scratched off no worries. I nest (they wedge into place & stay put nicely) them inside a vernet. Works pretty good. Lost the old one along with the vernet that it was nested in.
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Mehtas
Inner circle
England, UK
1624 Posts
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Posted: Jul 29, 2008 7:26pm
Startoker,
Try the goblin thumb tip.
http://www.morrisseymagic.com/morrissey%20closeup3.htm
A Magazine is a bunch of printed pages that tell you what's coming in the next issue.
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hackmonkey
Special user
England
815 Posts
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Posted: Aug 19, 2011 11:42am
Just out of interest what effects would you use a 'short' metal tip for? I remember one time in a magic shop this old guy, showed me a old school small brass thumbtip he had, it had some tape wrapped around it to help with camouflage. But it was small, maybe only went just past his thumb nail!
Look behind you...on your left...thats the real world.
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Moxahalla
Elite user
493 Posts
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Posted: Sep 6, 2011 2:26pm
For "metal" ideas:
Just buy Christopher's "50 Tricks With A Thumb Tip"
---written when all thumbtips were made of METAL.
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