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Mb217
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Posted: Jan 28, 2006 10:48am
Speaking of interesting gimmicks to vanish a coin, that "Necktie Coin" thing is a real winner when used well. I saw a guy once in Tannens using it (didn't know it then) and it was miraculous. He did all sorts of effects with this thing and no one could figure out what he was doing...In those moments, it was real magic to me, to all of us.  Might get that thing one day, it was really clever.
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"Not much new under the sun I hear but under the moon, well who knows, that just might be a horse of a different color." -Mb
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evolve629
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Posted: Jan 28, 2006 12:24pm
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On 2006-01-28 09:36, Larry Barnowsky wrote:
The angles are tight on the basic move. I developed a method using two hands to cover side angles better. Both hands turn over together with some overlap of the hands. That's how I did it as an opener in a coin act I did years ago.
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I suppose a beginner of coins really would have no knowledge of how to do this? All I need is a gaff coin that can compensate my small hands and bad palming 
One hundred percent of the shots you don't take don't go in - Wayne Gretzky
My favorite part is putting the gaffs in the spectators hands...it gives you that warm fuzzy feeling inside! - Bob Kohler
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Mb217
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Posted: Jan 28, 2006 2:01pm
Evolve, just keep practicing, it'll get better. What sort of coins do you use?
*Check out my latest Crimp Change - REDUX! and other fine magic at www.vinnymarini.com
"Not much new under the sun I hear but under the moon, well who knows, that just might be a horse of a different color." -Mb
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evolve629
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Posted: Feb 12, 2006 6:23pm
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On 2006-01-27 09:04, rutabaga wrote:
I'd be interested in your thoughts on NUSINUD when you've had a chance to play with it. No methods, only difficulty level, naturalness etc. A post or PM would be great...
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I received the NUSINUD. I didn't watch the video but just looking at the gimmick, it's very clever! However, I see what >Mediocre the Great> mean by "a lot of practice." Practice and practice a lot. It will lessen the chance of fl******.
>rutabaga, the difficulty level is 3 on a scale of 5, IMO.
>larrylegal, I was indeed disappointed. However, I see the beauty of this gimmick. Jeff Stewart has come up with a very clever little ordiniary looking gimmick that can work beautifully and magically if it's given a lot of practice. Nothing is perfect. Whether I'll use it or not, I'm not sure as angle is an issue.
Thanks everyone! Coin magic still rocks and I still want to learn more. The quest continues 
One hundred percent of the shots you don't take don't go in - Wayne Gretzky
My favorite part is putting the gaffs in the spectators hands...it gives you that warm fuzzy feeling inside! - Bob Kohler
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tommy ng
Veteran user
USA,Oregon
348 Posts
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Posted: Feb 13, 2006 9:49pm
How about did someone saw in the Jaime 3CM demo in his web site?
I think his last vanish the coin is the best, no move and show the hand empty(both side), did you guy agree?
But I still don't know what kind the vanish he use, did someone know the name of his vanihs.
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Brian Proctor
Inner circle
Oregon
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Posted: Feb 13, 2006 10:02pm
Tommy, I think that was used with the Trabucco Holdout. At least he mentions that the gimmick can be used with the hold out on the website. It only made sense to me that this is what made it possible. It was startling to me when I watched it myself. Very cool combination of gimmicks.
www.BrianProctorMagic.com
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tommy ng
Veteran user
USA,Oregon
348 Posts
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Posted: Feb 15, 2006 1:56am
Hey Brian, I chat will Jamie before, He said want to keeping it for a little while at least.But the Trabucco Holdout can the very nice vanish but exactly the same as what Jamie used in the demo.
So let waiting to see, and on same time all can think..........how he can do that!
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Rindfleisch
Elite user
New Jersey
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Posted: Feb 15, 2006 10:08am
If I really want to fry someone I use my burn vanish.
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=147909&forum=3&24
Joe Rindfleisch
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Magix
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Posted: Feb 15, 2006 4:38pm
I like your Burn Vanish. It's very similar to Gone Again, which I use all the time.
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Mb217
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Posted: Feb 16, 2006 12:39pm
Magix, yknow what, it is sorta like "Gone Again" (if I'm thinking of the right vanish). At least it seems to mechanically work the same way. Still, Joe's Burn Vanish is really sweet.
-MB
*Check out my latest Crimp Change - REDUX! and other fine magic at www.vinnymarini.com
"Not much new under the sun I hear but under the moon, well who knows, that just might be a horse of a different color." -Mb
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stormchaser
Regular user
Calgary, AB
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Posted: Feb 16, 2006 6:08pm
I like to do a fr**ch d**p, and then ditch the coin in the left hand before I show that it's vanished.
For those who believe, no explanation is necessary. For those who do not, none will suffice.
A magician is an actor playing the part of a magician.
Don't run when no-one's chasing you.
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Magix
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somewhere in the desert...
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Posted: Feb 16, 2006 10:41pm
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On 2006-02-16 12:39, Mb217 wrote:
Magix, yknow what, it is sorta like "Gone Again" (if I'm thinking of the right vanish). At least it seems to mechanically work the same way. Still, Joe's Burn Vanish is really sweet.
-MB
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Yeah, they're basically the same, just a different "get ready". But they're both pretty nice. Very visual.
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rutabaga
Inner circle
Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Feb 16, 2006 11:32pm
See the other thread for the Tickle Vanish... it's up there.
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CasualSoul
Special user
Edmonton, Canada
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Posted: Feb 17, 2006 1:34am
Ok, I'm new, but even though I like NUSINUD a lot, and Bobo is the king, I use the Raven and Raven X2 a lot as I know I can do it flawlessly, even when drinking. I also use Subterfuge to mess with the minds of those that think I have something up my sleeve. My favorite unassisted vanish is Revolution though. To those that have criticized the set-up move, I agree, but I work around it by saying the old "heads or tails?" before I set up. Makes it look completely natural. Revolution can also be done while sitting at a table if the angles are right. Although I don't have one, the Trabucco Holdout also sounds really interesting for the serious pro.
"Open their mind by performing the impossible"
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Eirik
Special user
Oslo
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Posted: Feb 17, 2006 4:22am
Also suggest everyone to check Eivind Lowig's book: Coin Power, where there is a coin vanish/change explained called The Pentium vanish. Smooth, super clean and everything goes in slow motion.
-e-
...As long as i`m not a world-champion at anything, the great reactions of doin` magic will do just fine.....
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Greg Rostami
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Posted: Feb 17, 2006 1:40pm
Some of my vanishes might be considered two handed vanishes:
http://www.infinite-image.net/gone/
Greg Rostami
P.S. MAN I've been posting this link a lot lately . . . There must be some "coin" thing that I'm going to be marketing soon!! Hmmmmmm?!
SEE through their eyes.
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CasualSoul
Special user
Edmonton, Canada
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Posted: Feb 17, 2006 4:27pm
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On 2006-02-17 13:40, Greg Rostami wrote:
Some of my vanishes might be considered two handed vanishes:
http://www.infinite-image.net/gone/
Greg Rostami
P.S. MAN I've been posting this link a lot lately . . . There must be some "coin" thing that I'm going to be marketing soon!! Hmmmmmm?!
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Greg: Is that Ryan Lowe's "Gone" you're performing? Your moves are awesome. If I'm correct in how it works, it reminds me a little of Revolution, but looks more flexible.
"Open their mind by performing the impossible"
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Mb217
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Posted: Feb 17, 2006 6:00pm
Hey Greg, I like your "Gone" vanish too...Really slick! Hey, that "Cosmos" card trick is a killer, man. Very well done and presented. Amazing! So, are you about to come out with a dvd with all this stuff?
-MB
PS - is the Houdini Coin in your "Houdini" trick dollar size? Nice trick.
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"Not much new under the sun I hear but under the moon, well who knows, that just might be a horse of a different color." -Mb
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Greg Rostami
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Skynet will become self-aware in
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Posted: Feb 18, 2006 2:18pm
Hi Mb217,
The new Cosmos DVD should be coming out in the next few months.
The Houdini trick is done simply by using:
1 Scotch & Soda coin
1 regular half dollar
1 metal bang ring
1 okito box
that's IT
regards,
Greg Rostami
SEE through their eyes.
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ghostmagician
New user
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Posted: Feb 18, 2006 5:54pm
I like to use the Butter Coin to vanish multiple coins, one at a time into thin air, and then make them all reappear using the Rainbow Coins gimmick. This routine gets me huge reactions.
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tlfdoc
New user
Appleton, WI
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Posted: Feb 19, 2006 2:19am
Joshua Jay's multiple coin vanish is great. He vanishes 3 coins one at a time, each by a different method but ends very clean. I saw him demonstrate it at a convention lecture (haven't seen his DVDs yet but I assume it's on them). I felt it was one of the best things I took away from the entire convention.
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tlfdoc
New user
Appleton, WI
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Posted: Feb 19, 2006 2:39am
Just took a look at Greg Rostami's site with videos of coin vanishes...very impressive! Greg, are you planning to develop an instructional DVD for your coin work?
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rannie
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Posted: Feb 19, 2006 3:12am
Great job Greg ! All the best!
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Algebra2
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CA
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Posted: Feb 21, 2006 4:25am
I did not like Revolution at all. Gone is better...
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CasualSoul
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Edmonton, Canada
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Posted: Feb 25, 2006 3:07pm
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On 2006-02-21 04:25, Algebra2 wrote:
I did not like Revolution at all. Gone is better...
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I don't have Ryan Lowe's "Gone", but I think it looks amazing. My understanding though is that it's an assisted vanish similar to NUSINUD. If I'm wrong about this, somebody please correct me. I like Revolution as it's a very clean unassisted vanish.
"Open their mind by performing the impossible"
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Marco S.
Inner circle
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Posted: Feb 26, 2006 8:33am
Vanishing a coin with the Raven looks great. lol
The Messiah Vanish by Sankey looks great to me.
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ftlum
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Roseville, CA
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Posted: Mar 14, 2006 2:50pm
Shoot Ogawa's 1 hand coin vanish is incredible. Incredibly hard too, but it might be what the OP's looking for.
The Revolution coin vanish is great if you add some naturalness to it-- do it with the palm up and on the off-beat with some time-misdirection (not as a challenge vanish).
- Frank
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solidimageartsllc
Regular user
Los Angeles
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Posted: Mar 15, 2006 3:52pm
I do like the effect of the Raven, but not its bulkiness and "other" requirements. Having said that, I'm more inclined to the many sweeter retention vanishes and Jay Sankey's in/out handling of the Messiah Vanish. Speaking of rentention vanishes, Joe Rindfleisch's Burn vanish floors me every time I see it. Its my current favorite and one that I need to learn. -Dan
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On 2006-02-26 08:33, Marco S. wrote:
Vanishing a coin with the raven looks great. lol
The messiah vanish by Sankey looks great to me.
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Take infinite pain to make something look effortless - Michelangelo
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Jonathan Townsend
Eternal Order
Ossining, NY
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Posted: Mar 15, 2006 4:08pm
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On 2006-01-17 19:26, image wrote:
In your opinion what is the best way to vanish a coin and show your hands completly empty at the end?
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Any specifics on what you will be wearing (jacket/vest), angles and more importantly what you want to do after the coin vanish?
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Mb217
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Posted: Mar 15, 2006 6:37pm
Hey image, the best to me is as per your initial question here is via sleeving or pocketing. With sleeving, you can do some vanishes that are quite remarkable and show your hands completely empty. You can also use some regular vanishes and then use the technique to "complete" them. A person skilled in using this often neglected-now technique can seem as close to real magic as is humanly possible. There are many that do this well, but Justin Miller uses it as brilliantly as anyone that I've seen in recent memory. Do yourself a favor and learn it...learn it well, and the better you get at it you'll see that it's most of the magic that you'll ever need.
*Check out my latest Crimp Change - REDUX! and other fine magic at www.vinnymarini.com
"Not much new under the sun I hear but under the moon, well who knows, that just might be a horse of a different color." -Mb
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