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Jay Are Inner circle 4186 Posts |
Hmmmm, the plot thickens -- as it tends to when Jim is involved...
I'm an unbiased member of the board -- I have no affiliation with Slim -- allow me to be the witness for the nay sayers... PM me, and we can set up a call... ICY
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chichi711 Inner circle 5810 Posts |
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On 2006-11-08 10:44, icy_rabbit wrote: If that is all it is you have that hook deep in your throat. YOu are playing right into this "self promotion" That must sting a bit Personally I think Slim wants to have a fun friendly challenge. Lets see if anybody can do something better? What is wrong with competition in mentalism/magic? I think that is what seperates us from the days of old. Slim is just trying to progress the art. |
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mike stevenson Loyal user 276 Posts |
In my opinion, challenging someone in this manner (to get "one up" on them) is one of the most unprofessional things a performer can do.
It's even more worrying when people are getting their rocks off over it. I'm not sure why Criss Angel has been chosen (maybe because he has challenged Blaine in the past?), but it's still no reason to go down to his level. |
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Jay Are Inner circle 4186 Posts |
Not taking my ball and going home chichi -- hurling it at SLIM!
;-)
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Jim-Callahan V.I.P. 5018 Posts |
Slim is hard to miss.
J ack
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chichi711 Inner circle 5810 Posts |
Mike you are missing the point. It is fun. Why can we challenge people in everything we do. Music, art, basketball, football, soccer, bowling, dancing, poem, books, business!!!! etc etc etc, but Magic and Mentalism we cant? Seems odd and probably a good reason we see the same things being released on e-books and dvd's. Nobody needs to step it up, because we are happy where we are at. What is wrong with a bit of competition?
Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On 2006-11-08 11:24, icy_rabbit wrote: Not taking my ball and going home chichi -- hurling it at SLIM! ;-) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I woudnt call that "hurling". If you are "hurling" the best way to get back at him is to beat him. Step up to the plate and do a better phone effect. I promise that would help shut him up. |
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Jay Are Inner circle 4186 Posts |
Chichi --
I agree, and think the idea is a great one... What is the motive for aiming at Angel though? The biggest target with the greatest reward?
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chichi711 Inner circle 5810 Posts |
That is a question for Slim I guess. I don't know Icy. I guess you could ask Why not?
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mooch New user Derbyshire, UK 21 Posts |
I'm curious about what the effect actually was as well, but I can live without finding out what it is. I'm not sure that someone would need to know what it was to better it though, as they could simply create their own effect to work down the phone, and the judges would simply say which had the greater impact on them. At least, I guess that's how it would work.
Good luck Slim, although I doubt Criss will ever see this. Your effect really does sound wonderful. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Ok lets not get out of hand here. It is indeed Slim trying to promote himself by a challenge to Criss. Big deal. Jim does it with Randi and indeed Slim has learned his lesson well.
Chichi is as unbiased a person as I can think of unless slim has coruupted him which I doubt. Hey Slim just for fun here your taking shots at others and such, what is it you do for a living? Your not a performer we know that much but what is it you do? Self promotion indeed. I am not saying it is a bad thing, but come on Slim on a message board full of magicians? Again you need to aim higher.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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mike stevenson Loyal user 276 Posts |
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On 2006-11-08 11:26, chichi711 wrote: I'm not. You honestly think Criss Angel is going to take time out of his schedule to sign up to the Café, PM the selected members to find out what is going on (who for all we know could have been told to merely lie about this effect), then sit down and devise a comeback? If this was serious, then this would have been directly sent to Criss and not posted on a forum which I'm sure he has no care for, and where no one else on that forum is allowed to know specific details(rendering the post pretty much useless). Your examples of soccer teams, businesses, etc. are completely different. They compete for a living. And magic competitions are scheduled events, where people can take part if they wish, and it's all in good jest. This is very different from directly challenging a specific individual, and then clouding that challenge in smoke to the people you're advertising it to (i.e. other Café members). Like I say, I don't think it's right to single out a specific individual to challenge. Set a challenge, if you wish. But don't drag specific individuals into it. Ok, so Criss might have done it with Blaine, and if he did, then I think he's an a*s. But that doesn't mean my opinion won't change of someone if they then go and do it to Criss. |
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Jay Are Inner circle 4186 Posts |
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On 2006-11-08 15:14, mike stevenson wrote: This may not be true. I have a reliable source that says nearly all of the top guys have memberships here and check out te boards from time to time. They lurk --and almost never use their real names...
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Jim-Callahan V.I.P. 5018 Posts |
Danny,
I just got off the phone with Slim he was calling from work. He is an pro-entertainer and works for Universal in Orlando and the House of Blues. His own show is called Supernatural Florida and is he can tell you about that. J ack
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Well then corrected I am.
I hope this challenge nonsense furthers his career, as that is the whole point anyhow. Unless his goal was to get a bunch of guys on a magic board talking about him, and if that was it, I am disappointed to say the least.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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entity Inner circle Canada 5060 Posts |
He's a musician.
- entity
email: tomebaxter@icloud.com
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chichi711 Inner circle 5810 Posts |
[quote]On 2006-11-08 15:14, mike stevenson wrote:
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I am one of the people that Slim listed. I cant speak for the others, but I am in NO WAY going to lie about anything. I promise the effect is good. I do view this as a friendly challenge and I would love to see if Angel, or anyone else can do something better. I love magic and mentalism and this would be fun to be a part of. If Angel contacted me (i doubt he will) and did an effect better than Slims I would tell everyone that Angels was better and the reason why I thought it was. Go back and read what happened a year ago. I have challenged Jim and Slim a lot. I have always asked them to back up what they say. Slim has backed it up a few times now and I am impressed and I like his thinking. Lets see what others can do? Quote:
On 2006-11-08 15:12, Dannydoyle wrote: Thanks Danny. That means a lot comming from you. |
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
I'm back...
Let's tackle these issues one at a time 1) Yes, I am a professional entertainer. Between Universal Studio's, The House of Blues, Corporate events, and gigs sanctioned by The Belushi Estate, I perform for somewhere in the neighborhood of one million people a year, for the last five years. And that's a nice neighborhood I am currently the only contracted "Jake Blues" impersonator at Universal Orlando. 2) When a new product and presentation comes out, we all know there are many FISHING PARTIES, that try to force you to perform for them, and make many unfounded accusations in an effort to steal someone else's work. Sounds like Icy and Entity to me. I suggest that you contact Chi Chi or one of the other judges with your best "Over The Phone Effect" or simply hush up! 3) Banachek, Johnny Thompson and Luke Jermay ALL are members of this Café. 4) This is a challenge to Criss Angel. Please read the original post. Any challenge is made in public, and The Magic Café, being the largest public Magic Forum is the logical place. This should be a magical and fun experience. Magicians of old challenged each other often. Angel challenged Blaine and no one here got upset. Why would you criticize me for doing what many others have done?
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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entity Inner circle Canada 5060 Posts |
Slim: You're saying that I want to steal "your" effect because I asked what it was?
You obviously don't know me at all, or you wouldn't suggest something like that. I've said here that I have no interest in having you perform your effect for me. I asked you what the effect was, not to perform it for me. Good luck, have fun, but watch out who you're accusing of attempted theft. Your words may come back to haunt you. - entity
email: tomebaxter@icloud.com
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
Just a matter of symantics (sp). Perorm it for me!!!!...Tell me how it appears!!!!! Same thing really, except that you miss the "Amazement" and that, in my book, is what Magic is all about. That's why I do it!
I have performed this on Radio stations for quite a while. Some are on the internet worldwide. You've had chances to hear of this. How am I obligated to go through the whole process to you? The challenge was to Criss Angel.
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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entity Inner circle Canada 5060 Posts |
My question was: What's the effect? A prediction over the phone? A card effect done by email? A PK effect? Just a basic description, nothing detailed. Seems like you're afraid of being caught at something.
Enjoy your fun. - entity
email: tomebaxter@icloud.com
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