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Carron

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Posted: Dec 28, 2006 5:07pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Carron  

Hi guys, I'm looking for sofware that will allow me to create a nice looking ebook as opposed to the plain word document converted to pdf that I've used in the past. The basic look I'm going for is sort of like Andrew Maynes, and Daniel Garcia ebooks
andrewmayne

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Posted: Dec 30, 2006 10:24pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of andrewmayne  

Carron,

I use Adobe InDesign (Pagemaker before that and Microsoft Publisher a long, long time ago) and then save it as a PDF (a regular feature on most layout programs on Macs).

Best,

Andrew
djrdjr

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Austin, TX
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Posted: Dec 31, 2006 1:02am    Reply with quote   View Profile of djrdjr  

Yes, Andrew's correct. You're going to need some professional graphic design layout software -- InDesign, Quark XPress, etc. -- then (speaking as a professional designer and art director) you'll also need some industrial strength design sensibility. It's not something everyone can do, that's why certain people get paid a lot of money to do it. But you never know until you try, so go for it!
MrGreggy

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Posted: Dec 2, 2010 5:38pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of MrGreggy  

You are so correct djrdjr, design sense is the most important element. Just because a person owns a hammer does not mean they are a carpenter. This also applies to web design. It's almost always best to hire a professional for any type of design work.

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DavidG

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Posted: Aug 25, 2011 10:17pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of DavidG  

Quote:

On 2006-12-30 22:24, andrewmayne wrote:
Carron,

I use Adobe InDesign (Pagemaker before that and Microsoft Publisher a long, long time ago) and then save it as a PDF (a regular feature on most layout programs on Macs).

Best,

Andrew



Thanks for the info!
aalexander

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74 Posts
Posted: Oct 10, 2012 12:07am    Reply with quote   View Profile of aalexander  

Awhile back I shopped around a bunch and almost bought an expensive publishing program to make a book. My advice: if you have Word 2007 or later, use that instead. Unless you're publishing a newsletter for the ADD-afflicted with tons of colours and pictures in wild configurations, everything you want can actually be done quite easily on Word.

Source: Here is a book made using only Word for layout and GIMP 2.0 (free) for images. Sorry for the kinda poor quality of the video, but the book looks great. Has headers, footers, captions, word wrapping, table of contents and index (one-click browsing on digital versions). And that's printed- ebooks have less pitfalls.

If you decide to take the plunge on desktop publishing software, I think I have a 50% discount for a Serif one (pageplus at $100 or pageplus essentials at $40), since I bought the website and video software. PM me and maybe I could pass that on to you.
jimgerrish

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East Orange, NJ
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Posted: Oct 10, 2012 11:21am    Reply with quote   View Profile of jimgerrish  

Unless you are selling your e-Book through Lulu or some other outlet that allows your customers to browse through the book for a few pages, it seems to me to be a waste of time to put a "cover" on an e-Book and imagine that everyone will want to print it out just to see the fancy layout work on paper. The reason I, and most other magicians, buy magic e-books is to learn the secrets and presentations contained inside... not for the layout which I usually never get to see until after I have already bought the e-Book. If I got a nicely illustrated and fancy-schmancy e-Book that had a lousy unworkable method for a stupid and useless trick I would never perform, I would trash it just as quickly whether or not it had a nice cover and beautiful layout. You can't resell an e-Book to some other person without violating the copyright law, so it just makes no sense to me. My opinion.

Jim Gerrish
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Danny Kazam

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500 Posts
Posted: Dec 29, 2012 12:57am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Danny Kazam  

Quote:

On 2010-12-02 17:38, MrGreggy wrote:
You are so correct djrdjr, design sense is the most important element. Just because a person owns a hammer does not mean they are a carpenter. This also applies to web design. It's almost always best to hire a professional for any type of design work.



I would think creative writing skills would be the first important element. Just because someone owns a hammer does not mean they know how to use it. No one expects them to be a carpenter, but they should at least know what a hammer is to do, and be able to hit a nail on the head.

Dressing up a PDF file is secondary to the content, and of course to the writing skills. You can have the best looking ebook, but filled with grammar mistakes, poor vocabulary, etc, you have nothing worth any value.
george1953

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Mallorca (Spain)
921 Posts
Posted: Feb 3, 2013 4:44pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of george1953  

I use serif page plus for all my DTP ork. It is reasonably priced and easy to use. You can also publish your work as a PDF file. It also has video tutorials which are a great help. Just google serif.com to see what else they offer.
joesquire

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87 Posts
Posted: Feb 6, 2013 1:22am    Reply with quote   View Profile of joesquire  

We as magicians (of all people) should know... perception is everything.

Whether rational or not, first impressions last. And if the an ebook was published without any thought to readability or presentation, it would be more likely to end up disregarded than the same book with a professional finish.

To think that once the ebook is sold, the author's obligation to the reader vanishes is unconscionable. Making something look nice and professional isn't just "window dressing" it's attention to detail and pride in one's product.

My $0.02
Sebastian Oudot

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41 Posts
Posted: Mar 18, 2013 2:08am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Sebastian Oudot  

By using Word, you can find some nice page templates for your ebook. And I mean not the ones included in Word.

But if you want sophisticated template for your page or for your ebook cover, I would suggest to outsource it.

A very good place to find cheap outsourcers is Fiverr: http://fiverr.com
trey

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272 Posts
Posted: May 2, 2013 9:56am    Reply with quote   View Profile of trey  

My lovely girlfriend is a graphic designer.
Maxy

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Posted: May 2, 2013 2:54pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Maxy  

Since you are not professional in graphics design you can use something more simple than Adobe programs:
Microsoft Publisher
It comes with some Microsoft office versions so most likely it will be bundled already with your ms office and no need to buy new software
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