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carolina illusionist

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Posted: Mar 14, 2007 4:52pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of carolina illusionist  

My fellow magi,

Yesterday, while surfing the net, I came across a card sword, of sorts.....it was a gimmicked tennis racquet. Now, today, I cannot retrace my steps to find it again. Is anyone familiar with it?

Tks,
Michael
Nedim

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istanbul/turkey
444 Posts
Posted: Mar 23, 2007 3:56am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Nedim  


Hi Carolina,

I know the effect and I think its perfect. You can find it in Stevens Magic Emporium. You know the web site is www.stevensmagic.com.

I hope you will enjoy it.


magicially yours,

Nedim Guzel
Terry Owens

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Ft. Wayne, Indiana
1696 Posts
Posted: Apr 30, 2007 7:03am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Terry Owens  

I'm thinking of getting a card sword. Should I stay away from the economy ones? I will not be performing this at every program...

Terry Owens

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jimhlou

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Posted: May 3, 2007 2:56pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of jimhlou  

Hi Terry:

I don't have a card sword, but I've seen a bunch of them. To me it's very obvious how they work, and I can't really see how they would fool anyone (perhaps I'm wrong). The card in tennis racket looks like a much better approach.

Jim
Terry Owens

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1696 Posts
Posted: May 3, 2007 6:05pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Terry Owens  

I have a particular routine that I will be using it with...The card chosen by spectator will represent sin that we try to hide (back in the deck) the sword represpents the Sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God, and God's word is always able to find the sin and remove it from our hearts...My comedy side would like to use the tennis racket, but my Gospel side, which would be the main reason for going this route says sword...It came to me while dreaming the other night, so my search begins for the right sword...

Terry Owens

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jimhlou

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Posted: May 4, 2007 4:22pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of jimhlou  

Good luck

Hopefully you can find one that doesn't look obviously gimmicked.

Jim

Reis O'Brien

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Seattle, WA
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Posted: May 16, 2007 8:36pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Reis O'Brien  

I would suggest the Assasin Card Sword... you can see it here if you scroll down a bit...

http://themagicwarehouse.com/tstage1.html

Here's what the website says;

The card sword is a remarkable piece of magic, but it's never been as good as it could be. Now, it's a miracle! The Assassin Card Sword allows you to have any card freely selected and signed. Yet it still appears impaled on the end of a sword!

Effect: A borrowed deck of cards is shuffled and given to a spectator for a free choice of one card. The card is signed by the spectator in pen. You take the deck and the chosen card is lost in it. A large samurai sword is displayed and the deck is carefully set on the side of the sword's blade near the tip. Holding the sword with both hands, the deck is flipped into the air at that moment, you thrust the tip in to the airborne cards and stab a single card. The stabbed card is the spectator's card!

The sword is offered to the spectator who removes his card from it. The card is actually sliced and on the end of the blade. The assassin also allows for an impromptu version too. At dinner a card is selected and signed. The shuffled deck is placed on the side of a steak knife. The deck and knife are thrown to the ceiling. Cards shower down around the spectators leaving the signed card pinned to the ceiling by the knife!

Because the assassin is a special gimmick that can be used with any sword or knife, its performance possibilities are endless. The card and sword can be examined after the demonstration because the gimmick removes itself during the performance.

The card sword used to look like a clever magic trick. But now, your audience will credit you with great skill. It's incredibly believable!

You get complete illustrated instructions, the precision made assassin gimmick, and a beautiful samurai sword that is a replica of Bill's sword from the movie "Kill Bill volume 2." It has a massive steel blade and high quality sheath. This sword alone is worth hundreds of dollars.

* The card is freely chosen
* The card is signed by the spectator
* The deck can be borrowed.
* The sword can be examined before and after
* No reels, threads, or elastics.
* No magnets or false blade tips
* No fumbling or false moves
* The signed card is actually sliced
* The sword blade doesn't cut the card
* The sword can be dull for safety
* NO hook-ups; completely self contained
* The card can be kept by the spectator
* No assistants are required
* No set-ups or pre-show work is necessary
* No sword skill required
* Can be learned in minutes
* Can be preformed surrounded
* Includes a beautiful sword and sheath
* The finest card sword available....bar none

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shakes

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55 Posts
Posted: May 16, 2007 10:18pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of shakes  

Hey Terry,

I'm new to the game but have seen a routine where the magician has a card selected and signed then shuffled back into the deck. After some patter, the magician puts the deck of cards in a paper bag then pierces the bag with a knife to reveal that he found the signed card. The card is pierced by the knife and you wouldnt need a gimmicked sword. Unfortunetly I'm not really sure what the effect is called but can find out for ya if you need. Just a suggestion.
pghdude80

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Pittsburgh
72 Posts
Posted: May 18, 2007 10:55pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of pghdude80  

I have used (but do not own) the Assasin Card Sword noted by Reis above. It is pretty good, and much better than most of the card swords I've seen.

The tennis racquet, however, sounds like a really interesting approach!

J
antonio2030

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Posted: May 26, 2007 6:23am    Reply with quote   View Profile of antonio2030  

The assassin card sword is great, and also adaptable to other swords so, you can make the effect yours, like customize it, I can not tell any further cause I don´t wanna reveal anything I shouldn´t but, is pretty good, I hightly recommend it!
Terry Owens

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Ft. Wayne, Indiana
1696 Posts
Posted: May 26, 2007 6:39am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Terry Owens  

Thanks for the input...tennis racquet won't work with the routine I'll be doing with it but I've been looking at the assassin card sword since I already have a sword to use, I wish they would just sell the gimmick.

Terry Owens

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Lusion

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Posted: Jun 8, 2007 12:38am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Lusion  

This effect SUX! I would not I repeat would not do this effect for any of my corp clients....Needs a lot work to really fool people. Kids yeah...Adults no.

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Terry Owens

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1696 Posts
Posted: Jun 8, 2007 8:05pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Terry Owens  

A sword I have...I will give it a whirl

Terry Owens

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Payne

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Posted: Jun 10, 2007 6:14pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Payne  

The best Card Sword I've seen lately is this one

http://www.stevensmagic.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=1122

I'd really think twice about the Assassin card sword as it looks extremely obvious. If you can figure out the mechanics of it from the picture ad it's safe to wager that the audience will figure the method out from the performance.

Stevens also has the tennis racket

http://www.stevensmagic.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=8383

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Darius DCLXVI

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The Green Hill Zone
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Posted: Jul 11, 2007 9:34am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Darius DCLXVI  

Quote:

On 2007-06-10 18:14, Payne wrote:
it's safe to wager that the audience will figure the method out from the performance.



I think that depends on the performer. If done well, it can be just as good as any other card sword.

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MikeDes

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Montreal
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Posted: Jul 11, 2007 12:11pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of MikeDes  

Here is my two cents. I have been doing a card sword routine for a few years now. I would stay away from the really cheap sword (around $100). They are really badly made and look like a cheap gimmick. The $600 swords look beautiful but unless they are a big part of your act might be a little expensive. There are some mid-range card swords out there that are quite good and sell for about $300. Payne gave you a good suggestion with Stevens

I have found that a card sword is a real fooler and often get questions about it after a show. I checked out the Assassin Sword and passed on it but I have never used one so others would probably know more than me on that one.

Good luck.

Michel Deslauriers
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Spellbinder

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The Holy City of East Orange, NJ
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Posted: Jul 11, 2007 3:08pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Spellbinder  

I prefer a fly swatter from the Dollar Store. I've never missed a card yet. It's described in my Dollar Store Magic article on "Greeting Card Magic."

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Drew Manning

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Dallas, Texas
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Posted: Jul 12, 2007 12:36pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Drew Manning  

I like the flaming card stab myself. You can find the workings on it in Tarbell (can't recall the vol# off the top of my head).

The effect is that the card is freely selected and signed and shuffled back into the deck. The deck is then wrapped in a sheet of tissue (flash) paper. A knife is slipped in between the cards (can be done by you or the spec) and the paper set on fire. All the cards fall to the floor except the signed card which is on the knife.

I do this one with a balisong (butterfly knife) which makes for some pretty flourishes.



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Mattillusion

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Posted: Jul 12, 2007 1:05pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Mattillusion  

Quote:

On 2007-05-03 14:56, jimhlou wrote:
Hi Terry:

I don't have a card sword, but I've seen a bunch of them. To me it's very obvious how they work, and I can't really see how they would fool anyone (perhaps I'm wrong). The card in tennis racket looks like a much better approach.

Jim



Lance Burton did a fantastic card sword routine and it made sense because he was dressed for the 'Masked Ball.'
dahih beik

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palestine
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Posted: Jul 14, 2007 12:03am    Reply with quote   View Profile of dahih beik  

I love this effect , the problem with most gimicks that they are obvious (i have seen different versions ). I have what I think is the best version on the market whrite now the mecaniques weigh and look it is the julio lipan I boght it from stevens it is very good and beautiful . hope this help.
calamari

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The San Francisco Bay Area
427 Posts
Posted: Jul 16, 2007 2:23pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of calamari  

I have many different cardswords and have been performing this for about 13 years now, the Lipan sword mentioned above is the best I have seen and the one I use now. "this effect does not fool anyone please no one should ever use a cardsword in their act"... I plan to use this effect only for another 20 or so years then I will throw them all away as they are crap. I repeat cardswords are terrible and I suggest you run far away from this effect... LOL

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Pete Biro

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Posted: Jul 19, 2007 12:47pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Pete Biro  

I have one of the beautiful swords made by British craftsman George Hammerton (his mentor was Jon Martin) it is deceptive and very well made. George also custom made a shorter blade for me so it fits in my case.

HOWEVER.... if any of you can research Clarke "Senator" Crandall's routine, he used an ungimmicked curved Scimitar in a hilarious and baffling routine.

The curved blade allowed him to stick the card on with the blade going around behind his back.

STAY TOONED... @ www.petebiro.com
Mumblemore

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Posted: Aug 1, 2007 12:59pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Mumblemore  

If you wanna go toungue-in-cheek, Wolf's Chicken Sword is fantastic (kids love it). It's a rubber chicken sword plus a great time-release electric card fan and some other gimmicks. Check it out.
Mumblemore

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Posted: Aug 2, 2007 8:41pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Mumblemore  

Mike Bent has a 'card bat' - it's called "Batter Up." That might play well this time of year . . .
Starrpower

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Posted: Aug 3, 2007 11:31am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Starrpower  

I love the effect, and like most it's only as good as the routine and the performer. My card sword is one of the highlights of my show. I have an Abbott's; good sword, not a great sword. The release mechanism is not reliable. It has never failed me during a performance, but once it released early while sitting on my table.

So, what I am looking for is not necessarioy a more deceptive sword, but an extremely reliable one. And, I do use a sword, not a tennis racket, umbrella, chicken, walking stick, knitting needle, or baseball bat.
SpellbinderEntertainment

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Posted: Aug 17, 2007 1:28am    Reply with quote   View Profile of SpellbinderEntertainment  

There arer two "traditional" styles of card swords.

The most generally available has a large hilt,
and the cards seem hidden where you'd suspect them to be.
The other model (made by Merv Taylor, and later in an Owen version)
has a very slim handle and hilt and uses a tiny bit of slight of hand.

This I feel is the far superior version as there is no tell-tale place to hide cards.
These can be found from time to time in auctions, on Ebay, and magic collection sales (or in my case, my brother an engineer and welder made me one).

The cheaper ones are useless, they don't look like swords, and they just don't work, don't waste your $100 plus or minus dollars.

If you can't find a good card sword, get a nice reproduction sword (of shorter length) and use a card stab in paper bag method.

My two-cents,
Walt



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Lester

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Scotland. U.K
163 Posts
Posted: Aug 17, 2007 8:53am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Lester  

Forget gimmicked, hideous pieces of weaponry. Try the Pavel "Card in the Air". An excellent effect with the same general idea of the card sword but with the mimimum of gimmicks and apparatus you can make yourself.

Just my two pence worth.

Best Wishes,
Lester
Christopher Lyle

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Dallas, Texas
5224 Posts
Posted: Aug 17, 2007 12:05pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Christopher Lyle  

I've used many card swords over the act...so many in fact that I could just have an act where I perform differnt card sword tricks. I've used cheap ones, I've used really expensive ones.

The one I use now (and will ALWAYS USE never changing to anything else) is Kevin James' Got it Covered. This is an umbrella sword. It's a double wammy effect b/c you not only stab the cards on the end of the umbrella which looks great, but also you get a kicker ending that no other card sword offers (that I've ever seen).

You get 3 cards selected, put back in the deck, the spectator throws the cards in the air and you stab 2 of the 3 cards on the brella'. DARN! I missed one...you show the 2 cards you stabbed and ask the 3rd spectator what card they selected. You OPEN the umbrella and printed on the silk is 3rd selection. Two effects for the price of one. It's very well constructed and blows my audiences away.

Matter of fact, I was asked to perform for Travlers Insurance (their logo is an umbrella) b/c of this effect. They have hired me now 7 times to perform JUST THAT TRICK! Now I don't know about you guys, but picture your normal booking fee for 1 effect! What an easy gig.

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Vayron

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Belgium
201 Posts
Posted: Aug 23, 2007 12:01pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Vayron  

Françis Tabary (France) has also a "rope sword" with juste a rope and a deck of card and no gimmiks. You shoud be able to p..m a card. That's all ! It's very simple and effective.

Starrpower

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Posted: Aug 25, 2007 1:26am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Starrpower  

Okay, these are all cute variations, but I want and need a SWORD. A reliable sword. Please, if you recommend one, explain WHY as well; that makes the recommendation far more usefull. Looking at a picture really says nothing aobut its operation or reliability.
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