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Nathan Kranzo

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Posted: May 1, 2007 11:12pm    View Profile of Nathan Kranzo  

Hi Jeff,

When it comes to comedy....

What percentage is written based off of your character?

What percentage is based on something you just thought of that was funny?

What percentage is something that just happened off the cuff that you kept in the act?

I'm sure it is a combination of all the above. I'm wondering which one motivates your writing the most.

All the best,

Kranzo

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jeffhobson

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Posted: May 2, 2007 12:43am    View Profile of jeffhobson  

If you have a strong character. . . you can write material that works. Then, you can balance the regular lines and throw in ad-lib lines when you feel comforable. When you find a good line, you write it down. An audio recorder helps for this. Eventually, after doing the effect 50 or 100 times. . . .you should have bits and lines to fill the routine to it's potential. As for percentages, I couldn't tell you.

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Frank Starsini

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Posted: May 2, 2007 2:45am    View Profile of Frank Starsini  

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On 2007-05-02 00:43, jeffhobson wrote:Eventually, after doing the effect 50 or 100 times. . . .you should have bits and lines to fill the routine to it's potential.



This brings up an interesting question. We all know (I guess) that a perfected routine can take years to bring it to its full potential.

For a new routine that you're working on, at some point you just have to go out and do it. So when do you decide... "well, tonight's the night for the maiden voyage".

When do you decide that it's time to try that routine you've been practicing.

How "complete" is it the first time?


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Flying Magus

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Posted: May 2, 2007 3:21am    View Profile of Flying Magus  

Further to Frank's question; how much do you customize (if at all) for corporate clients? What are your views on the trade off between creating a totally customized trade show presentation and presenting the best tried-and-true material?

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jeffhobson

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Posted: May 4, 2007 7:40pm    View Profile of jeffhobson  

I only taken on those customized shows rarely. Mostly for auto shows. . . .it was fun but it was too sterile for me. Basically, I had to conform to their environment. I would rather have the audience conform to me. I guess I'm way too much of an individualist and get bored easily. I did it for a while but realized I needed to have fun. Customizing got to be way too much work. I just got a call to do a week-long corporate convention where I'm with the client's audience everyday. They wanted me to do custom magic and scripting. I charged them quite a high price. . . I would rather not do it. . .BUT. . . . like my father-in-magic, Karrell Fox used to say, "I'll walk through a mile of S&#(* for the right price".


For Franks' question. . .it's difficult to say. I just put in a spirit slate routine for two shows over a month's time. I wrote the whole thing and it went very well. I would say it's 80% there. BUT. . . I feel that it needs MANY more shows in front of different types of audiences before I can say that with confidence. It takes much more time for tricks with patter. When there's dead time. . . that's death UNLESS you want silence for dramatic puposes. You need to fill the deadtime with interesting stuff to say. . . TOO many magician's fall into the trap of merely nararating their magic. Ex: "I will now take this card and place it. . . OR. . . .Now I what I want you to do is. . . . . . . . " AHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRRRGGGGG!!!!!

I dare you to see if you are one of those magicians that use those exact words numberous times throughout your act. If so, STOP and do some serious re-writing. Narration can put people to sleep. You must give your audience more credit. Do the dang trick and say something worth hearing!!!!

Sorry. . . got my panties in a bunch! . . . . . . . I



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Frank Starsini

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Posted: May 5, 2007 11:42am    View Profile of Frank Starsini  

Panties! I knew it! I'll bet they're pink too. With sequins.
Doesn't make for a plesant bike ride.

And thanks for the response. Much appreciated.

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