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Gene

Café Forum Developer
Howard City, MI
543 Posts
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Posted: Sep 29, 2007 10:52pm
A person who recently registered wasn't receiving registration/password emails from the Café. This is, in fact, due to AOL blocking the emails.
If you are an AOL user and are not receiving emails from the Café, please do not contact us about it. Here is the email I sent to the person, exactly as written:
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| Well, I'm afraid there's nothing I can do, and I'm pretty upset about it. I tried it myself and was able to find out what is blocking the emails sent to you from the Café. This is the message our mail server is getting from the AOL email server:
"This error message indicates that your email has been identified as coming from a server or web site that may have a compromised script or program available."
Frankly, AOL is full of crap. The Café never sends unsolicited email, and it never has. Our server is registered with AOL, and I get emails directly from AOL anytime an AOL user marks an email from our server as spam. In EVERY case I've traced the email to an AOL user who has specifically opted to receive the email, and either by accident or whatever, marked the email as spam with AOL.
I'm sorry, but I can't fix this. Until it is fixed you won't be able to get on the Café. Don't count on it though. AOL is widely known for blocking emails. Take a look at the message above and note how it says "server or web site that MAY have". Not "does" have, but "may" have. They're blocking legitimate emails, and that's not good. |
| Due to AOL issues, I'm afraid I'm going to have to add AOL to the registration block list. It doesn't make a great deal of difference anyway. If AOL isn't accepting email sent from the Café, new registrants aren't going to get a password by email. At least now those registrants will not be wondering when they'll get their registration email.
I've done everything I can to avoid this, but AOL is just too much. I've had it with them.
Somebody kick me off the computer, will ya?
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Gene

Café Forum Developer
Howard City, MI
543 Posts
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Posted: Feb 17, 2008 12:36am
In addition to blocking new registrations using AOL email addresses, it has also become necessary to block all outgoing emails from the Café to members having AOL email addresses on file. Emails are simply not getting through to AOL and are clogging the server's mail queue. Unfortunately, blocking those emails also means those members cannot change their registered email addresses by themselves. This will affect almost 4,000 Café members.
If you are an AOL user, you will no longer receive emails from the Café to alert you to new private messages, topic reply notifications, or any other email normally sent by the Café, regardless of your preference settings. That is, if you were even getting those emails at all lately.
Any member having a registered AOL email address will have to contact me directly by PM to get their email address changed. Such requests must include the new email address, and that address cannot be from a free service (Yahoo, Hotmail, Gmail, etc.). I anticipate getting many such requests, so please be patient. I will get to them as soon as I possibly can.
Thank you.
Somebody kick me off the computer, will ya?
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Dennis Michael

Inner circle
Atco, NJ
5972 Posts
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Posted: Feb 17, 2008 5:55am
Many Members subscribe to Verizon and Comcast. These users can change their email address to those Internet Service Providers and do away with that AOL account. By the way this AOL problem is not limited to the Café. Many domains and cheap hosting areas also have been blocked, as well as foreign email address.
In addition, if you own a domain name like http://www.MagicalBirtdayParty.com , the host should provide you with at least one email address such as DennisMichael@MagicalBirthdayParty.com That email address is like a business card and helps you establish yourself as an entertainer.
Receiving these emails are very easy with MS Outlook or similar email programs. In my opinion, it has come to that time where you must establish yourself somewhere in cyberspace, and AOL would not be the best for the 1st choice, as a Café Member.
Dennis
PS..Last week (Feb 2008) I switched to MS Office 2007 and all I can say about their email program (Outlook 2007) is WOW!
Dennis Michael, Atco, NJ (856)768-2281
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kinesis

Inner circle
Scotland, surrounded by
2431 Posts
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Posted: Feb 17, 2008 11:22am
I work in I.T. and as many of you know AOL is referred to as A O H*LL (*=E) I'm sorry to hear you have some much work ahead of you Gene.
Dennis, Office 2007 is a whole lot better generally. But I.E. 7 - YUCK!!!
Regards to all,
Derek
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Larry Barnowsky

Inner circle
Cooperstown, NY where bats are made from
3903 Posts
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Posted: Feb 17, 2008 11:54am
Gene,
I have AOL email. Does that mean that advertisers like myself will not get notices regarding receipt of payment for banners etc.?
Larry
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Gene

Café Forum Developer
Howard City, MI
543 Posts
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Posted: Feb 17, 2008 1:40pm
Larry, I think the banner issues are handled independently of the forum. I'm not positive though, because I'm not involved in that. If you've been getting those notices since the date of my original post here, I'd guess they're coming from a different mail server.
Somebody kick me off the computer, will ya?
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MAKMagic

Special user
I got banned for one of my
557 Posts
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Posted: Feb 17, 2008 6:38pm
Gmail - it has the biggest storage. The biggest sendable file size limit. The best spam filter (Customizable).
And it's FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
.:Michael Kelley
www.RandomActsofEntertainment.com
On the Level, By the Square
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squando

Elite user
435 Posts
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Posted: Feb 17, 2008 9:26pm
I tried to change my emom aol to comcast and the Café wouldn't let it happen. How do I change this?
Frank
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Gene

Café Forum Developer
Howard City, MI
543 Posts
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Posted: Feb 17, 2008 10:05pm
Send me a PM with the details, I'll take care of it for you.
Somebody kick me off the computer, will ya?
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Gene

Café Forum Developer
Howard City, MI
543 Posts
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Posted: Feb 18, 2008 11:21am
To all, let me repeat - if you have an AOL email address on file, you can't change it yourself. Don't even bother trying, you won't get anywhere. You must send your request to me via PM and I will take care of it.
Thanks.
Somebody kick me off the computer, will ya?
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gdw

Inner circle
4428 Posts
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Posted: Feb 19, 2008 12:11am
I do NOT have an AOL e-mail here, but I still can not change my e-mail. I have sent pm's to mods before about it, but never received any reply.
My e-mail that I registered with is a yahoo.ca account which I have not used for a long time. However, I do check up every now and then, and even before I stopped using it, I never received an e-mail from the Café.
I have tried simply creating another account here, but was un able to do so with a Gmail account. I found this odd. I do not know why I was told that Gmail was an unaccepted e-mail server on the Café.
Perhaps someone can help me with this?
Thanks
Glenn
March 22, 2011, our beautiful baby girl, Evelyn, was born.
It's a brave new world, get with it, or get out of the way.
Man has evolved, "god" is extinct.
I won't forget you Robert.
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Dave Scribner

Assistant Manager
Lake Hopatcong, NJ
4723 Posts
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Posted: Feb 19, 2008 6:51am
Glenn, the Café will not allow free servers to be used as email addresses. Those in existence prior to the rule being implemented quite some time ago are fine but new ones are not allowed.
Where the magic begins
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gdw

Inner circle
4428 Posts
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Posted: Feb 19, 2008 8:40pm
Well that sucks. So how can I change my e-mail address then? Since I've been here since before that rule and registered with a free email server, would there be no problem with changing my address? I imagine there are gmail registered accounts from before already, yes?
March 22, 2011, our beautiful baby girl, Evelyn, was born.
It's a brave new world, get with it, or get out of the way.
Man has evolved, "god" is extinct.
I won't forget you Robert.
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Gene

Café Forum Developer
Howard City, MI
543 Posts
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Posted: Feb 19, 2008 9:08pm
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On 2008-02-19 00:11, gdw wrote:
I do not know why I was told that Gmail was an unaccepted e-mail server on the Café. |
| Simple: Because anyone can get a gmail email account simply by filling out a form. Gmail is no different from Yahoo, or Hotmail, or any other free email service in that regard. That whole issue is simply another example of a few bad apples spoiling the pie for everybody else.
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gdw

Inner circle
4428 Posts
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Posted: Feb 19, 2008 10:49pm
With servers like Gmail, why would anyone even need to have a pay e-mail server?
Doesn't this also prohibit most young and up and coming magicians from accessing the Café? What teenager would pay for e-mail?
I always found that to be one of the greatest things about the Café, it was a place where every magician, of any level could come for help and fellowship.
March 22, 2011, our beautiful baby girl, Evelyn, was born.
It's a brave new world, get with it, or get out of the way.
Man has evolved, "god" is extinct.
I won't forget you Robert.
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Payne

Inner circle
Seattle
4266 Posts
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Posted: Feb 20, 2008 12:56am
Sorry to hear about your problems with AOL. I've been with them for years and years and have never had a problem with them so I see little reason to change my E-mail since I have the very easy to remember address of payne@aol.com
I contend that we are both atheists.
I just believe in one fewer god than you do.
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Gene

Café Forum Developer
Howard City, MI
543 Posts
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Posted: Feb 20, 2008 9:37am
No, gdw, it doesn't, but I'm not going to explain it here. Let's keep this topic on-topic please.
Somebody kick me off the computer, will ya?
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Dave Scribner

Assistant Manager
Lake Hopatcong, NJ
4723 Posts
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Posted: Feb 20, 2008 4:05pm
I explained things to gdw in a PM.
Where the magic begins
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Gene

Café Forum Developer
Howard City, MI
543 Posts
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Posted: Feb 20, 2008 4:27pm
Ok, thanks.
Somebody kick me off the computer, will ya?
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felixjr

Loyal user
220 Posts
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Posted: Feb 20, 2008 6:17pm
A special thank you to Dennis Michael!
I am an unlucky aol person and I could not log on without my password. I attempted several times to get my password, but never got it. I read your aol notice and figured I can't contact magic Café and they couldn't contact me. You can't PM someone if you aren't logged in...
So I contacted Dennis and he was kind enough to forward my email to Magic Café and now you can read this email. Thanks you again!!!!
Jim Richardson
Felixjr
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Gene

Café Forum Developer
Howard City, MI
543 Posts
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Posted: Feb 20, 2008 7:51pm
You're welcome. Glad we were able to help.
Somebody kick me off the computer, will ya?
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Phil Thomas

Inner circle
Newark, Ohio
1117 Posts
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Posted: Mar 5, 2008 7:48pm
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On 2008-02-17 11:22, kinesis wrote:
I work in I.T. and as many of you know AOL is referred to as A O H*LL (*=E) I'm sorry to hear you have some much work ahead of you Gene. AOL people, get yourselves a GoogleMail account!
Dennis, Office 2007 is a whole lot better generally. But I.E. 7 - YUCK!!!
Regards to all,
Derek
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I recently switched over from Windows to Linux and I like it much better. Firefox web browser seems to be treating me a lot better than Explorer ever has and as for the Office programs, OpenOffice.org seems to be working a LOT smoother for me. It's been a weird transition, but all in all, I am liking what I see. I was with AOL for a short time, but dropped them like a bad habit. Oh well, sorry to ramble.
"If we lose the sense of the mysterious, life is no more than a snuffed out candle."
Albert Einstein
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