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On May 9, 2017, karnak wrote:
Wasn't there a story (can't recall title or author) about a guy who goes back in time, gets a gal pregnant, and then it turns out that the resulting child is himself (such that he was actually his own father)?


Heinlein's story - recently made into this movie.

Let's hear it for the fabulous 50's! And enjoy the 2010's Smile Review of a more recent time travel story: http://martzin.dreamwidth.org/14945.html
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Somebody mentioned the story where they were hunting dinosaurs and one of the hunters stepped on a dragonfly which caused such changes, when they got back to the present, America was a fascist nation ruled by a dictator.

There was another one similar to that where an unmanned probe goes back. The professor in charge of the experiment dismisses his co workers insistence that this will cause changes in time. The probe DOES make a small change which snowballs over the span of time. But, because there was no one in the probe and thus no one to witness the change, the professor announces that he was right and there was no change at all! The fact that the professor is now a seven foot tall lizard person is immaterial!
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Sounds vaguely like an episode of Rod Serling's "Night Gallery."
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Ray Bradbury's "A Sound of Thunder" is a good place to start reading on the theme Smile
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Everyone seems to forget that perhaps you can return from the future to this time ... but not necessarily in the same dimension as ours.
Hence "tourists, or ghosts" from the future are all around us ...

having said that, what do I know ...?
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Everyone seems to forget that perhaps you can return from the future to this time ... but not necessarily in the same dimension as ours



Well, sure, Everyone knows that. I think it just hasn't been mentioned here because it's the sort of thing that goes without saying.
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Time and ghosts and perceptions may all be relative.

A timeless story for ya

SHIMMER

‘“Course I don’t believe in ghosts -- and don’t ‘llow any of them ladies to tell ‘ya different,” opinioned old Jess. He stared a bit after the retreating reporter. “Them what believes ain’t ever seen one -- and those that have ain’t sayin’,” he muttered. “Believin’ ain’t related to truth at all, or least wise not like nuts and shells. Ya’ hear a story, excited like, by a person rightly truthful and credible and you repeat it. That’s believin’. Now if you done saw the specter yur own self, you wouldn’t be believin’ -- you’d be knowin’. I’d be one of them, for shore -- one that be knowin’, that is. Too bad ya didn’t ask the right question.”
The aging mountain man sauntered over to the shed -- the one with all the brooms hanging and sprigs of rosemary and always in the shade. He unfastened the rusty lock with a key hung from his belt, and swung the door wide and free. “Come on out Annabell, and sit a spell,” he jested. “I know it isn’t dark enough to see your pretty dress, but I’ll pull my cap down low. You deserve a reward, being right quiet and gentle just now. What’ll it be -- a story about knights and faeries?”

He selected a children’s book from a stack at the corner of the porch and began to read. The sun set ahead of time, but the shimmering glow in the rocking chair next by provided all the light he needed. “Don’t know why you hang around, my dear,” he smiled. “You must know all of these stories by heart. This one is pretty long -- I’d better get a sweater.” The shimmer shifted hue a bit and might have seemed brighter to anyone close by -- anyone who knew about ghosts, that is. Jess decided he was comfy after all, and continued to read.

Dan, the reporter from the city, tossed his backpack into the trunk and handed over some bills for the gas. “I chatted with that old man like you suggested,” he lamented. “Nothing to it -- says he has never seen a ghost, and I sensed he doesn’t lie. Doesn’t believe it them at all. Don’t know how these rumors get started.” The dust took a while to settle in the road after he sped away.

“Of course he doesn’t see ghosts, you ninnie!,” chuckled the store-keep. Jeff has been completely blind for years.”
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On May 12, 2017, wulfiesmith wrote:
Everyone seems to forget that perhaps you can return from the future to this time ... but not necessarily in the same dimension as ours



Well, sure, Everyone knows that. I think it just hasn't been mentioned here because it's the sort of thing that goes without saying.


It's worth saying. And beyond that it's worth discussing. That's the hope, the wish, the presupposition about having a connection between the world left behind one can return to.

How could you tell whether the world you saw through some magic window was "the past" or just some other place which looks a lot like what we know about our past?
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Did anybody watch the premiere of the new time travel series "Somewhere Between"? It's where a lady's daughter is murdered, and the Mother finds herself reliving the week before the murder and scrambles to find a way to prevent it over and over again. What puzzles me is why the time travel series is called Supernatural instead of Science Fiction. I've always considered time travel as science fiction but this new series calls it supernatural.
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I suppose you can time travel either way. Going back in time is impossible via science. Therefore it could be done either through advanced science (SciFi) or magic. How does she travel back? By machine, that is Scifi, if no explanation at all, then it is magic.
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We're 6 pages in, and the OP has been long forgotten, but I'll chime in.

I would want to be able to go back in time at the moment of my death, to when I was 5. And froward in time as I saw fit, just for education.
Also, an addendum to the rules: I want to be able to FF through boring parts.

I would at first seek revenge, a lot of bad things would happen (for very good reasons), then I would almost certainly use my powers for evil.... I know me.
So, it's a good thing time travel, at least to the past, doesn't exist or is regulated heavily.
Magic is doing improbable things with odd items that, under normal circumstances, would be unnessecary and quite often undesirable.
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On Jul 31, 2017, Cliffg37 wrote: How does she travel back? By machine, that is Scifi, if no explanation at all, then it is magic.

I agree with you about the Machine categorized as Sci-fi but traveling back without any explanation could fall into either Sci-fi or Magic. For example, look at the Twilight Zone episode, "Walking Distance." The protagonist simply walks into a fog and winds up in his childhood. That could be Supernatural but could be also seen as Sci-fi,i.e.a Space warp.
On the other hand, what would categorize as definitely Supernatural was the Doctor Strange story from the 1960s where he used his Ectoplasmic-form to travel back to ancient Egypt. The supernatural aspect is further reinforced by the use of a magical Candle. The magical effect of the Candle is what keeps the time corridor open. As the candle's wick runs out, Steven is trapped in limbo.
My own personal take on this tale is that,in a sense,I enjoy time travel as Magic rather than with a time-machine because Magic seems to evoke more wonderment.

What makes me laugh and, in a sense, disappoint me is that, in comparison, the Avengers can have their actual Physical bodies travel through time but Stephen Strange with his Magic can travel with only his astral form. Even so, I prefer Steven Strange's method.
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For your viewing pleasure, here is footage of the supposed 1960's Area 51 interview with a time traveler:


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Did anybody watch the premiere of the new time travel series "Somewhere Between"? It's where a lady's daughter is murdered, and the Mother finds herself reliving the week before the murder and scrambles to find a way to prevent it over and over again. What puzzles me is why the time travel series is called Supernatural instead of Science Fiction. I've always considered time travel as science fiction but this new series calls it supernatural.


How is she reliving the same week? Is she using technology or is she just re-awakening at the beginning of the arc again? If there is no "technobabble" reason for the time travel, than it's supernatural.
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On the most recent episode of CW's Legends of Tomorrow, it was stated that Nobody can revisit the same past-event twice. What I want to know is-- is that a basic time travel principle or was it written for just the tv-series? Have there ever been any time travel stories where a traveler revisits the same time-segment twice? If so, were there any negative results?
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It might be that we don't need any form of time machine. People have reported time slips to the past and the future for centuries. If this were the case, a well-prepared time traveler could actually test aspects of reality such as does a material past or future exist? It might even be the case that there are literally burps in our perceived timelines that only seem to be other places in time.
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...time travel stories where a traveler revisits the same time-segment twice? If so, were there any negative results?


Try "The Time Machine" by H. G. Wells Smile
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...time travel stories where a traveler revisits the same time-segment twice? If so, were there any negative results?


Try "The Time Machine" by H. G. Wells Smile


Which version of "The Time Machine" do you mean??Because there were several different versions. The version that I saw did Not have the situation that I asked about.
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? per the writer himself:
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The hands spun backward upon the dials. At
last I saw again the dim shadows of houses, the evidences of decadent humanity.
These, too, changed and passed, and others came. Presently, when the million
dial was at zero, I slackened speed. I began to recognize our own petty and
familiar architecture, the thousands hand ran back to the starting-point, the
night and day flapped slower and slower. Then the old walls of the laboratory
came round me. Very gently, now, I slowed the mechanism down.


More such to be found in his text. https://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/www/well......mach.pdf
Wells wrote in the 1890s. Try Stross's novella Palimpsest for ideas. He starts with the "grandfather paradox" and ... no spoilers.
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