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matthewmello
Elite user
410 Posts
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Posted: Feb 6, 2008 10:04pm
Just wanted to let everyone know about a new Luke Jermay download. You can only find it if you search his name. So, I figured I would provide a link to anyone interested.
http://penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=1751
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Blindside785
Inner circle
Olympia, Washington
2796 Posts
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Posted: Feb 7, 2008 12:40am
That was one of the more better penguin magic effects I've seen.
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Magikrn
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333 Posts
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Posted: Feb 7, 2008 1:37am
That put me to sleep...........
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BrianMillerMagic
Inner circle
Manchester, CT
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Posted: Feb 7, 2008 1:42am
I quite enjoyed it actually. The various stages are appealing to me, and I'm a big fan of Jermay's stuff in general. I'll wait for reviews though, like most products.
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matthewmello
Elite user
410 Posts
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Posted: Feb 7, 2008 2:03am
I enjoyed it as well. The method is very simple (assuming I know how it works)...but the subtleties that he's using are extremely good and worth the price of the download in my opinion.
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swtrocks
Loyal user
Los Angeles
206 Posts
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Posted: Feb 7, 2008 2:13am
I suggest those interested in a pseudo-memory demonstration using cards to look into "More Memory Man" from Joel Givens's book "Sessions". It is my firm belief that it is a much more practical, well structured, convincing, and strong routine.
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Brandon Queen
Elite user
Los Angeles, California
472 Posts
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Posted: Feb 7, 2008 3:24am
This effect is good. It it one of the three effects that was printed in "The Bigger Three" manuscript. I'ts actually the only one of the three effects in that manuscript that I actually liked enough to perform. I believe it was designed for stage, but it's boring to perform on stage. At least when I do it. However, It does play very well in a small group setting, or even close up.
This is a steal. Because, I basically paid $250 for this effect. And now the value of my manuscript has dropped immensely. I kind of wish I saved my money to purchase the downlaod. A trend that I see happen a lot, is that great effects published in private manuscripts, end up being massivly published a couple years later. :-\
But anyway.. great effect, great price, easy to do. But.. not easy to perform and be entertainig. Definatly needs a lot of showmanship.
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Greg Arce
Inner circle
5413 Posts
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Posted: Feb 7, 2008 4:48am
Luke did this for a room full of magicians at the Magic Apple when he lectured. Most were completely fooled. It does play very well.
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kannon
Special user
722 Posts
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Posted: Feb 7, 2008 5:43am
Picked up this a day or two ago myself, loved the presentation. You've probably guessed the method, but it was worth the download (450mb) and the price. All the small detail is covered, I predict many will still feel its too bold or too risky, but it is SUCH a nice effect, especially when presented as well as Luke did.
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But anyway.. great effect, great price, easy to do. But.. not easy to perform and be entertainig. Definatly needs a lot of showmanship.
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Totally agree. Showmanship and conviction.
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Brandon Queen
Elite user
Los Angeles, California
472 Posts
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Posted: Feb 7, 2008 1:25pm
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Oh Yah, I was there too! I personally really enjoyed the dunninger ploy effect he performed, the most. Probably because it was the only effect I didn't know how it was done until he explained it.
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fooksau
Loyal user
297 Posts
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Posted: Feb 7, 2008 4:44pm
Can this be done with a borrowed deck?
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gdw
Inner circle
4428 Posts
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Posted: Feb 7, 2008 9:22pm
I think the effect looks good, but that presentation was terrible. Boring, and absolutely now build up or anything in each reveal. It was just-turn over the card, 'was this it?' ok, next stage.
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pegasus
Inner circle
(UK) Airborne Forces
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Posted: Feb 8, 2008 2:23am
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On 2008-02-07 05:43, kannon wrote:
Picked up this a day or two ago myself, loved the presentation. You've probably guessed the method, but it was worth the download (450mb) and the price. All the small detail is covered, I predict many will still feel its too bold or too risky, but it is SUCH a nice effect, especially when presented as well as Luke did.
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But anyway.. great effect, great price, easy to do. But.. not easy to perform and be entertainig. Definatly needs a lot of showmanship.
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Totally agree. Showmanship and conviction.
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I was really interested in this until I saw the words Bold and Risky. Don't do either of those, probably cos I'm not that great with cards. I always get caught.
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Brandon Queen
Elite user
Los Angeles, California
472 Posts
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Posted: Feb 8, 2008 2:26am
This effect truly is more than what it seems. Here is a vid clip of Derren Brown performing the same effect. Like I said in a previous post- This effct really needs a lot of showmanship to make it entertaining. It's easy to pull off, but difficult to pull off well.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NmilV9TXQvo
Take some notes.
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kannon
Special user
722 Posts
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Posted: Feb 8, 2008 5:13am
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On 2008-02-08 02:23, pegasus wrote:
I was really interested in this until I saw the words Bold and Risky. Don't do either of those, probably cos I'm not that great with cards. I always get caught.
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If your really interested; get it. I probably badly phrased I'm mere suggesting some may think it is: but its really not.
Its not about card skill, it really is about presentation and conviction.
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kannon
Special user
722 Posts
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Posted: Feb 8, 2008 5:32am
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On 2008-02-08 02:26, Brandon Queen wrote:
This effect truly is more than what it seems. Here is a vid clip of Derren Brown performing the same effect. Like I said in a previous post- This effct really needs a lot of showmanship to make it entertaining. It's easy to pull off, but difficult to pull off well.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NmilV9TXQvo
Take some notes.
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Cheers Brandon, that is a great clip .. its also very interesting to read people's comments, theories and opinions as well.
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jaded
New user
colorado springs
73 Posts
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Posted: Feb 8, 2008 12:34pm
I thought Luke had a great presentation. It was nice to see a presentation that is not completely about psychology or psychic phenomena. The memorization ploy is something that people should do more often
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pegasus
Inner circle
(UK) Airborne Forces
1849 Posts
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Posted: Feb 8, 2008 1:52pm
I bit the bullet and am not dissapointed to be honest. I look forward to performing this.
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MagiCaleb
New user
10 Posts
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Posted: Feb 8, 2008 5:17pm
Well, I don't think this is memoria. I mean, it's the same type of tricks, but I'd say it's a mix between him remote viewing (by jermay) and memoria.
Having second thoughts, has anyone bought it and got there money's worth?
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Billman
Regular user
New hampshire
147 Posts
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Posted: Feb 8, 2008 7:33pm
Looking at Derren Browns performance and Luke's performance the two effects are VERY VERY similar. Some one who purchased this, can derrens approach to this effect be done the same way as lukes? for example, can I be turned completely around when the card is pulled from the deck then replaced? PM me if necessary.
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gdw
Inner circle
4428 Posts
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Posted: Feb 8, 2008 11:16pm
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On 2008-02-08 12:34, jaded wrote:
I thought Luke had a great presentation. It was nice to see a presentation that is not completely about psychology or psychic phenomena. The memorization ploy is something that people should do more often
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The memorization presentation is fine, but the effect was just presented in a boring as hell, no build up kind of way.
Sorry Mr. Jermey
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millarhouse
Loyal user
New Zealand
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Posted: Feb 9, 2008 4:25am
Well I downloaded the effect after seeing the Derren Brown clip ( http://youtube.com/watch?v=NmilV9TXQvo ) as they are very similiar. Yes I know, I did want to be able to perform a trick and pretend I was as good as Mr Brown.
The trick is bold, but like most pieces of magic, if you can pull off the performance you will have something very special.
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pegasus
Inner circle
(UK) Airborne Forces
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Posted: Feb 9, 2008 6:49am
Having watched Derrens version a few times now, observing, it is apparent that Lukes method can only be adopted to Derrens first effect. Derrens 2nd effect, as he performs it anyway, is a different method.
I also think that Derrens version is better too in that the spec removes a card but does not peek it, as in Lukes version where he asks the spec to peek the card 'Poker style'. I don't see the point at that stage. Plus it adds suspicion to the spec in that you may peek it somehow too. For you to name the missing card in the deck order first, and then the spec turning over to confirm is much stronger, IMO anyway.
I have an old lecture video of Derren performing the 2nd effect in which he teaches the method, and is completely different to Lukes effect. It involves an ingenious deck s****h for a m*******d S***k.
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Dan McLean
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Behind you
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Posted: Feb 9, 2008 11:13am
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On 2008-02-09 06:49, pegasus wrote:
Having watched Derrens version a few times now, observing, it is apparent that Lukes method can only be adopted to Derrens first effect. Derrens 2nd effect, as he performs it anyway, is a different method.
I also think that Derrens version is better too in that the spec removes a card but does not peek it, as in Lukes version where he asks the spec to peek the card 'Poker style'. I don't see the point at that stage. Plus it adds suspicion to the spec in that you may peek it somehow too. For you to name the missing card in the deck order first, and then the spec turning over to confirm is much stronger, IMO anyway.
I have an old lecture video of Derren performing the 2nd effect in which he teaches the method, and is completely different to Lukes effect. It involves an ingenious deck s****h for a m*******d S***k.
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You are of course exactly right although I'm not sure "adopted" is the right word. I believe Derren's method for the first effect is exactly the method taught by Luke.
As far as the second effect goes, are you referring to Derren's "Plerophoria?' (For those playing at home you'll find it on page 129 of "Pure Effect.") If so there was a butt load of editing between the first and second efect.
I kinda like the peek, by the way. You may be right about the suspecion factor but it's another sell that you can't see the card. It also gives you some wiggle room if . . . well, without revealing the method, you may not want to rush the selection process.
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malkav
Veteran user
314 Posts
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Posted: Feb 13, 2008 5:52pm
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This effect is good. It it one of the three effects that was printed in "The Bigger Three" manuscript. I'ts actually the only one of the three effects in that manuscript that I actually liked enough to perform. I believe it was designed for stage, but it's boring to perform on stage. At least when I do it. However, It does play very well in a small group setting, or even close up.
This is a steal. Because, I basically paid $250 for this effect. And now the value of my manuscript has dropped immensely. I kind of wish I saved my money to purchase the downlaod. A trend that I see happen a lot, is that great effects published in private manuscripts, end up being massivly published a couple years later. :-\
But anyway.. great effect, great price, easy to do. But.. not easy to perform and be entertainig. Definatly needs a lot of showmanship.
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I recieved this from Luke
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The routine memoria is a stripped down version of the routine without the touches that made it strong in the bigger three. This routine had previously been published without the touches and the touches additions and subtly are what makes the routine.
There is many many points in the routine that are not on the video.
The video is a basic and under developed version.
Please feel free to make this statement public. The owners of the bigger three have a much stronger and much more developed routine.
L.
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I still have some issues that it was released, even in a slimmed down version as I paid a lot for the effect.
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Piers
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Posted: Mar 13, 2009 4:22pm
Ditto:
and ditto : http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=270630&forum=15&106&start=90
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Nathan Pain
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Posted: Mar 13, 2009 4:40pm
So Luke is basically selling a stripped down POS on Penguin...nice, really really nice.
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philippos1979
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Posted: May 20, 2012 8:28am
Posted: May 20, 2012 8:05am
Dear friends
I have constructed the remote castle deck but I need suggestions for alternative close up handlings other than by building a castle with the cards... Can you please PM me and or make suggestions of how I can effectively use the remote castle deck in other ways to create other effects of remote viewing etc?
Thanks
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John C
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Posted: May 20, 2012 9:21am
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On 2008-02-08 02:26, Brandon Queen wrote:
This effect truly is more than what it seems. Here is a vid clip of Derren Brown performing the same effect. Like I said in a previous post- This effct really needs a lot of showmanship to make it entertaining. It's easy to pull off, but difficult to pull off well.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NmilV9TXQvo
Take some notes.
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When you say showmanship...do you mean on the part of the performer or on the part of the spectator? Because that countess certainly helped wit the entertainment value of the effect. Yes YES YES! MAGNIFICANT!
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