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praetoritevong Regular user Sydney, Australia 139 Posts |
Jheff recently sent out a review via email, which should be on his site as well now, if anyone is interested.
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marklock Regular user 151 Posts |
I own Sleight Of Mind, but not Geist. Jheff reports that the authors say Mischief is probably not worth owning if you own the original titles (although there is additional material, just not enough to warrant purchase).
Since I don't have Geist, can anyone clue me in to its content/value, since Mischief may be the only way to read its contents.? pm me if revealing sensitive info please. |
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mchiko07 New user 23 Posts |
Who is jheff? and where I can read his review?
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p_n_g Loyal user 297 Posts |
He is Jheff Poncher.
His website is : http://www.marketplaceofthemind.com Here is a direct link to Mischief : http://www.marketplaceofthemind.com/mischief.html |
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cassius2m New user Simi Valley, CA 68 Posts |
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On 2010-08-10 14:35, wilko7 wrote: You weren't kidding. I received my copy today and this is a big book. I have sleight of mind so I was expecting something that size, but this is more like textbook size. -Clay |
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nimrod Special user 881 Posts |
I wonder why not just saying "we are publishing a new book". Why all those aliases and false questions?
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Brandon Queen Special user Los Angeles, California 527 Posts |
I just got mine today. This thing is BIGGER than Hauntiques!
As soon as I had heard about this book I jumped on it. If I had known more clearly that this is just both Sleight of mind and Geist wrapped up in one book I would have passed on it. I was hoping it would have been a third installment focusing on hypnosis. As the first one was NLP, the second was effects to use from the first book, and could have had hypnosis for the third and maybe a fourth book containing effects to use from the third book. but NO. oh well. Now time to sift through and find the "extra 100 pages" that I haven't yet read.
It occured to me at once that love could be a great illusion, that makes fools of brilliant thinkers everyday
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jcsum Loyal user Singapore 217 Posts |
Hi,
This book took me a long time to get through it for some reason. Mischief is an expanded compilation of two previous books (Sleight of Mind & Giest) by the same authors. I'm not sure if it was the type-setting, oversized fonts or the book with no line spacing between paragraphs or the writing style, but I found it a difficult read to follow. The book is thick and is produced like a music "fake" book, the same type of paper and quality. The tagline for the book is "Radical Hypnosis & Mind Control" and the premise of the book is to help magicians strengthen the effect of their magic or mentalism routines through techniques that encompass NLP, Inductions, Suggestion Techniques and contexts of performances. I think one reason I had a hard time following is that : 1) It read like a textbook at times with very scholarly labels and categorizations of techniques. So it felt dry and overly academic. 2) The categorization of the techniques did not flow naturally or logically. For example, the first part of the book is a revision of "Sleight of Mind" which focuses a lot on NLP techniques. Then, a chapter on Cold Reading pops up. I understand how Cold Reading aids in choosing different NLP techniques to apply to different individuals but the placement in the book seemed at an odd place and added to the difficulty in trying to read the book. Later on, the book delves into memory techniques in between a chapter on relaxation and hypnosis and suggestion. Now, you may understand why I had so much trouble trying to follow the authors' line of thought. The second half of the book "Geist" is the authors' way of explaining the importance and uses of "Geist". It took me another few re-readings to try to understand what the authors' were defining as "Geist". Basically, they use it as a noun (in most cases) to refer to a presentation context or a presentation framework. So, a mentalist like Derren Brown adopts the "Geist" of an expert of human psychology and mind manipulation as opposed to a "Geist" of someone born with supernatural powers. The use of the word "Geist" was really confusing to me as it was so abstract and the authors had different subtle uses of the word in their writings. The authors do have a number of routines and effects described in the book that they interweave with their theoretical propositions. Again, I think if the organization and presentation of the material had been better, the context of the routines would have been easier to appreciate. I think there is good potential for the material in the book but it suffers greatly from the (IMO) bad organization and presentation of the material. It also felt like it was trying to be too technical and academic without the need to be so. Honestly, it reminded me of some of my university Sociology textbooks; trying to frame a subject into categories with technical names, jargon and long-strung sentences that you have to reread three times in order to fully understand it. And yet, you are not sure you did. If you are a serious mentalist, this is a book you might consider adding to your library if you are prepared to work through it... if you have the other two-dozen must-have books first. J C
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The Supernaturalist Loyal user The City of Lights 202 Posts |
I live Mischief! Never had the other 2 books so it has been a treasure! I have created some great stuff using many of the concepts! I love the textbook presentations and wide borders for notes
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aligator Inner circle Canada 2044 Posts |
Wondering if this is still available?
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phel New user Germany 6 Posts |
Hi aligator,
it seems to be sold out at the most places, but I still found this one - https://www.pegani.dk/en/products/mischi......in-nyrup Hope this helps! |
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aligator Inner circle Canada 2044 Posts |
Thanks. I'll have a look. Once read Sleight of Mind but not Geist. Will look at Table of Contents and decide upon my level of interest from there.
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