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The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » The April 2003 entrée: Nathan Kranzo » » What do you need? » » TOPIC IS LOCKED Nathan Kranzo V.I.P. 2547 Posts Posted: Apr 4, 2003 12:55pm       What is the one effect, or sleight that you see referenced that you can never find a good explanation/description of? Best, Nathan check out MINDZILLA VOL. 2!!! Brand New Effects. Instant Downloads. Watch Demo Videos. Click below!!! KranzoMagic.com Great Domino Special user Canada 513 Posts Posted: Apr 4, 2003 1:15pm       The Hofzinger spread cull seems to be a tough one to find. I have an idea about it but it's a little sketchy. Gidon New user Tacoma, Wa 80 Posts Posted: Apr 4, 2003 8:18pm       I second that. I find that methods for controlling one card to a specific location are in short supply. I'm in the Ammar camp, in that I think using the pass to control one card is overkill and a cut or riffle shuffle is a little to obvious. A spread cull would do nicely but I haven't seen it explained well anywhere... any suggections? Chris Harland "No WAY...wait...do that again." Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 25306 Posts Posted: Apr 4, 2003 8:48pm       In high school I read the library section on magic and was stumped by the phrase "turn the topic of conversation to..." hints, suggestions and strategies more than welcome. -Jonathan ...to all the coins I've dropped here Phil Pearce Loyal user Dallas, GA 214 Posts Posted: Apr 4, 2003 9:04pm       The Kelly Bottom Reverse. I see lots of references to it but no explanations. Welcome to the Café, and boy do you have a following here! Phil "Perplexity is the beginning of knowledge." Khalil Gibran jasonchr Regular user North Carolina 173 Posts Posted: Apr 4, 2003 10:59pm       I would agree with the others about a spread cull. A very useful tool, but a hard one to learn from books. It really helps to see the cull in action so that you get an idea of rhythm, timing, etc. Jason The aspirant should acquire the resolve to explore and expand his talents to the best of his ability. With a thorough commitment to quality comes a sense of accomplishment and unique satisfaction. John Carney Steven Steele Chief of Staff Hesperia, California USA 1859 Posts Posted: Apr 4, 2003 11:22pm       Definitely the Spread Cull, no question. I've only seen a couple of descriptions and they are both sketchy at best. I would have loved to have Marlo have a Chapter in his Revolutionary Card Technique series. Steven Coram Deo The Magic of Steven Steele Nathan Kranzo V.I.P. 2547 Posts Posted: Apr 5, 2003 12:17am       You guys are so right about the spread cull. Keep the suggestions flowing.... Best, Nathan check out MINDZILLA VOL. 2!!! Brand New Effects. Instant Downloads. Watch Demo Videos. Click below!!! KranzoMagic.com Nathan Kranzo V.I.P. 2547 Posts Posted: Apr 5, 2003 2:01pm       Hi Phil, Thanks for dropping in! The Kelly Bottom Placement eh (Ovette Master Move)? Never thought about that. The thing I never liked about it is something that Max Maven pointed out. The fact that you can always tell when someone is doing that move, even if you are in the back of the theatre. You always see that wierd grip with the right hand. Max's solution was to change the moment. But I'm still a little leary of the move. I do love its directness though. Hmmm... any thoughts? Nathan check out MINDZILLA VOL. 2!!! Brand New Effects. Instant Downloads. Watch Demo Videos. Click below!!! KranzoMagic.com Ed Oschmann Special user Lake Worth FL 761 Posts Posted: Apr 5, 2003 2:08pm       Hi Nathan, Just recently I was reading Guy Hollingworth's Collectors routine that was published in the Penumbra (can't remember which issue) where the upper packet is held in a modified grip. The thumb at the inner end and the ring and middle at the outer end. The pinky though is on the face of the packet. The pinky pulls to the right where the card breaks away from the packet and is delivered to the bottom. Excuse the wordy description. Anyway, it gets away from that awful "claw" look. Best, Ed Nathan Kranzo V.I.P. 2547 Posts Posted: Apr 5, 2003 2:13pm       Aaaaahhhh..... Great point Ed! I guess I should go back and re-read that! Thanks, Nathan check out MINDZILLA VOL. 2!!! Brand New Effects. Instant Downloads. Watch Demo Videos. Click below!!! KranzoMagic.com stache New user 69 Posts Posted: Apr 6, 2003 7:51pm       Hey Nate, this is Brandon from Saginaw. I have to agree with everyone about the spread cull. I always flinch when I put my left thumb on the card above the selected card and then pull that selection out of the spread. It looks like I make the card vanish then it reappears on the bottom of the deck. I think I just need more practice, Oh well. I have to stop typing now because I can't find the remote and the Simpsons are almost on. Hope your having fun with this whole Special Guest thing. see ya next time I'm in Flint. Brandon Burton Michael_MacDonald Inner circle Washington 1389 Posts Posted: Apr 7, 2003 1:51am       The spread cull is coverd in Ackermans videos Best, Michael MacDonald Clayman Loyal user New Jersey 243 Posts Posted: Apr 7, 2003 11:02am       Phil Pearce, In line with the Kelly Bottom Placement eh (Ovette Master Move), we have a thread called "DeSouza's Deceptions" going on in the forums, and on his tape and companion book there is a well detailed, fully explained, process for this move. I don't think there is any other source so clear. There are a ton of other very useful sleights explained also. "A flash of silvery light ..and it was gone." About Time New user 1 Post Posted: Apr 10, 2003 10:38am       Jose de la Torre's ten coin roll. A flashy coin stunt that offers no explanations at all....that I've found. Nathan Kranzo V.I.P. 2547 Posts Posted: Apr 10, 2003 2:04pm       Hehehehe...... I'll 2nd that! Best, Nathan check out MINDZILLA VOL. 2!!! Brand New Effects. Instant Downloads. Watch Demo Videos. Click below!!! KranzoMagic.com The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » The April 2003 entrée: Nathan Kranzo » » What do you need? » » TOPIC IS LOCKED <<< Previous Topic   Next Topic >>>

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