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m.ruetz
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Southern California, USA
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Posted: Feb 25, 2009 2:04pm
There have been a number of ideas and resources out there in cyber space and I pulled together a resource article which should be helpful to anyone deciding to buy or build a backdrop:
http://magicgizmo.com/home/articles-miscellaneous-topics/71-magic-workshop/216-ultimate-magic-backdrop-resource-plans-tips-and-ideas.html
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Levity
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Posted: Feb 25, 2009 5:45pm
That is a great article, m.ruetz. Thanks for doing it and posting the link--very helpful and informative.
Geoffrey
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Donald Dunphy
Inner circle
Victoria, BC, Canada
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Posted: Feb 25, 2009 6:50pm
Hi Matt -
Great article.
Here are some more possibilites for additions to your article...
For the category of "Backdrop Fabric", you can also order fire-retardant backdrop fabric panels from: http://www.onlineeei.com/drapecomponents.cfm (I just got some from there within the past couple of weeks). You had a link to the Online Eeei site (but to a different page) earlier on your backdrops page, when referring to their backdrops (or backdrop kits) themselves. But you didn't have a link, to show that people can buy the fabric panels from them, too.
Also, another inclusion for "Assemble Or Build Your Own". On Page 167 of Barry Mitchell's Book, "The Magic of Thinking Creatively", Barry outlined an idea for making a backdrop (Spider-type), very inexpensively out of a folding mattress framework from stores like WalMart. I can't remember if it's also on the DVD set. Read this post and this post, by Dennis Michael.
Also, if you're providing links, don't forget the Brick Wall in a Bag (also available from Hocus Pocus, and don't forget Dan Wolfe's Banner Boxes, and don't forget Abbotts Magic's Jet Sets (Abbott's 8' Jet Set, Abbott's 6' Jet Set).
Also, I think that this page at the "Backdrop Source" website has better info about backdrop support systems. As opposed to the link you provided. Some backdrop support system brands that seem popular include amvona and adorama, which you can order from online at their respective websites, or at their eBay stores.
- Donald
P.S. Whew!
Donald Dunphy is a Victoria Magician, British Columbia, Canada.
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Levity
Elite user
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Posted: Feb 25, 2009 8:06pm
Hey, Donald, thanks for the extra links...there are some great ideas at those last couple of sites.
Geoffrey
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m.ruetz
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Southern California, USA
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Posted: Feb 25, 2009 8:53pm
Hi Donald- I'll update the article when I get a free minute to keep it current, since the idea was to have all the resources in one place, thanks!
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m.ruetz
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Posted: Feb 25, 2009 10:00pm
Hi Donald- I have updated the article to include your suggestions, some great new resources added, thanks!
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Donald Dunphy
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Victoria, BC, Canada
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Posted: Feb 25, 2009 11:10pm
Happy to be of help.
- Donald
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Donald Dunphy
Inner circle
Victoria, BC, Canada
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Posted: Feb 26, 2009 7:13pm
P.S. Do I get a mention on your page, as a contributor? 
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m.ruetz
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Southern California, USA
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Posted: Feb 27, 2009 10:41am
Donald- Yes you do and thanks again!
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Donald Dunphy
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Victoria, BC, Canada
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Posted: Feb 27, 2009 11:01am
Thanks, Matt.
BTW, Dan Wolfe's last name has an "e" on the end of "Wolfe". For the link to Banner Boxes.
- Donald
Donald Dunphy is a Victoria Magician, British Columbia, Canada.
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Professor DoDad
New user
Cleveland GA
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Posted: Mar 30, 2009 5:51pm
I know this is an older post. I use 4 backdrops in my show...The outter two have video projection screen made in the graphics.I use www.aaadisplaygroup.com. They seem to really good on prices that I have not found any less.
They have amazing customer service too.
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Magic4u1
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Posted: Apr 11, 2009 4:36am
Great . Thanks for all links .
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m.ruetz
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Posted: Apr 15, 2009 7:30pm
This URL has changed, sorry for the changes:
http://magicgizmo.com/home/Magic-Workshop/ultimate-magic-backdrop-resource-plans-tips-and-ideas.html
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Donald Dunphy
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Victoria, BC, Canada
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Posted: May 10, 2009 11:58am
This might make a handy pinned thread.
Donald Dunphy is a Victoria Magician, British Columbia, Canada.
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ksentell
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Posted: May 10, 2009 12:03pm
I have never posted here before, but I would like to add my 2 cents, as I had been using a heavy duty foam board backdrop for the past few years.
It was a pro model built for trade shows that was given to me. It was bulky & big,but Free. On a windy day it fell over during the show...a Big distraction, So I looked for an alternative and found something for around $100 or less.
Here's what I use now:
a) A photographer's back drop set up with 2 tripod stands & an expandable curtain rod between. It offers light weight, expandable: both side to side & height, quick set-up/take down, plus on windy days the breeze thus far has blown thru the curtain material.[FYI-you can easily anchor the tripods down outdoors and the fabric if desired] And I can change my backdrop colors or patterns. eBay has em all day for around $50-$70.
b) I bought a used 10'x 20' Chroma Key blue back drop fabric with a curtain pocket all ready sewn in via e-Bay for around $22.(I cut it in half & now have a back-up plus the Chroma key color makes GREAT photo's)
c) I attach my cut out foam letters with magnets & velcro bought at Wal Mart or a local craft store for $12.
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Rudy Sanchez
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390 Posts
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Posted: May 11, 2009 12:39pm
Hello,
Please add "Infinity Nu-Lash" to the list. This is woven exclusively by Brownbeauty Magic. Magic Auction is the sole distributor at the moment and we have just been awarded the entire theater backdrop for the Kirby Van Burch Theater in Branson Mo. Here is a link to see the product.... Just scroll down 2 or 3 items and you will see it. This is woven 54" wide, this can be fire retarded to pass NFPA 701 (necessary for commercial applications). Nobody in the industry weaves this product 54" all competitors weave it approx 42-45" wide. I will also weave custom colors but royal blue and silver seem to be the most popular colors. Perfect for magicians that use thread work in their routines.
"Infinity Nu-Lash" has also been endorsed by Sean Bogunia!
http://www.magicauction.com/Mag_auc/IllusionStageAccessories.htm
www.brownbeautymagic.com
Only Supplier of Nu-Lash Backdrop/Curtain Material in The World!!
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John Breeds
Loyal user
England
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Posted: May 25, 2009 10:05am
Here's a very simple backdrop, yet looks very effective. It takes less than four mins to erect and cost only a few Dollars. Note the use of the side cheek banners to carry off the effect.
I have included constructional details in my new book:-
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PeepInside01!
PeepInside02!
PeepInside03!
PeepInside04A!
PeepInside04B!
PeepInside05!
PeepInside06!
John
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scintnl
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Posted: Jul 10, 2009 10:45am
I made my backdrops from a mixture of Stan Kramiens recommendations (from his book "The Illusion Show Business", http://www.lybrary.com/illusion-show-business-p-610.html) and these instructions
http://www.instructables.com/id/PVC-stage-backdrop-or-room-divider/
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Donald Dunphy
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Victoria, BC, Canada
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Posted: Aug 26, 2009 10:39am
Hi Matt -
Here are a couple more links you might wish to add to your site:
Instant-Up Portable Backdrop Frame that Klamm Magic sells.
I don't think we mentioned it earlier, but it should be included if we want the list to be exhaustive.
www.AhBanner.com falls under the category of "Trade Show Banners and Backdrops."
I know that you already have a list of some websites in that category, but I think several magicians have purchased from Ah Banner after Ken Scott's recommendation (at lectures and on this Café thread). The price is fairly low.
- Donald
P.S. Also, Stan Kramien provided a bit of backdrop frame opinion / information on this webpage: Stan Kramien's column at Steven's Magic. I don't think you linked to it, either.
Donald Dunphy is a Victoria Magician, British Columbia, Canada.
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m.ruetz
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Southern California, USA
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Posted: Aug 26, 2009 11:40am
Thanks Again Donald. I have updated the article.
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Donald Dunphy
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Victoria, BC, Canada
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Posted: Aug 26, 2009 3:06pm
BTW, another one I don't think mentioned was a "Trimble Backdrop."
For a long time I used a Trimble Backdrop, made from coroplast. It was originally designed to be made from large corrugated cardboard sheets.
The plans for the Trimble Backdrop are in one of the "Success Books", by Frances Marshall (published by Magic Inc. in Chicago). There are 4 Volumes, but I don't remember off of the top of my head which volume has the plans in it. My books are in storage elsewhere just now, so I can't check.
Here's a photo of one in use, in my show.
- Donald
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Michael Messing
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Knoxville, TN
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Posted: Aug 27, 2009 12:37am
Wasn't the Trimble Backdrop cool? I had one when I was younger but it wouldn't fit into my mom's car easily so I gave it to my magic club. I'm not sure which of the "Success Books" it is in but it's also in "The Super Show", also produced by Magic Inc. (That's where I found it.)
Michael
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Donald Dunphy
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Victoria, BC, Canada
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Posted: Aug 27, 2009 1:33am
Because I had a van or station wagon, it wasn't a problem. It folds down to about 48"x42"x1".
I even made a Trimble Backdrop at one time out of sintra at one time, with piano hinges and rivets (instead of masking tape or duct tape). It was pretty for a while, because I had some signage on it. It was very heavy, warped easily from the summer heat, brittle / cracked, and I had to use 1x4s to give it some structual support after it started warping. I learned lots of lessons the hard way, and I don't recommend trying it at all out of that sort of material.
That's why my next one was made out of coroplast. Way less hassles and way less expense.
A sheet of coroplast is about $15 CAN. So, for about $50, I bought three 4'x8' sheets and some coloured duct tape, and made my own.
Still, even the coroplast model tended to warp after a bit. One side kind of bent in at the top, and the other side kind of bent back at the top.
- Donald
Donald Dunphy is a Victoria Magician, British Columbia, Canada.
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Donald Dunphy
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Victoria, BC, Canada
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Posted: Aug 27, 2009 4:30pm
P.S. I've always thought that an "Original 8" tradeshow display - solid colour fabric, might make a neat backdrop. They are a bit like a Trimble Backdrop, but with an extra set of panels. 8 total, not 6. 12 panels if you add on the headers. But about the same size as a Trimble Backdrop. The framework of them is quite solid, but having panels makes it lighter. I didn't see any warping in the models I looked at.
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Christopher Starr
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Heart of America
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Posted: Oct 13, 2009 11:26am
Any idea how expensive it might be?
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Donald Dunphy
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Victoria, BC, Canada
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Posted: Oct 14, 2009 11:15am
Christopher -
Are you asking about the cost of an Original 8? It was about $1500-$2000 many years ago. It could be higher or lower now. It's best to ask them directly -- also, if you get the opportunity, see one of the Original 8s in person. They are pretty nifty.
- Donald
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The Great Smartini
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Posted: Nov 23, 2009 2:50pm
I just received my new Brick Wall in a Bag backdrop and it rocks!! It comes with a hard plastic shell case which is on wheels as well as heavy canvas style bag. The frame goes up very easily and clips in place in a matter of seconds and the fabric is already on the frame and it's just a matter of attaching it to the end/side to give the 3d effect. Both the frame and the fabric are made of extremely durable material and should last a long long time with proper care particularly if you use the plastic hard shell case. The brick wall size is 7 1/2 foot by 10 foot wide and perhaps the only drawback might be that the size isn't adjustable. As an added bonus it comes with two clip on lights!! Needless to say I'm very happy with this investment and would highly recommend it to anyone else considering picking one of these up.
jeff
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Alex Palombo
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Posted: Dec 29, 2009 9:39am
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Martello
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Posted: Mar 3, 2010 7:38am
You should check out backdrops.us. they have an incredible variety of muslin backdrops that are much less expensive than those I see quoted here. I have a number of their backdrops and change them to suit each show. Prices start at $49 and you can get a beautiful 8x10 foot backdrop for $100
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Jeffrey Korst
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SF Bay Area
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Posted: Mar 14, 2010 2:10pm
I haven't looked at what's currently out there, but years ago when I was looking for a backdrop, they were all too small. I'm 6'2" and most of the backdrops I was seeing promoted were 6" tall. That put the top of the backdrop cutting through or off my head depending on the height of the platform. They were also not very wide.
I bought a stand made for photographers to hold a roll of seamless background paper. It can go up to 8' high and 9' wide. Better yet, it is completely flexible in height and width.
I made a very simple 3 panel curtain that threads through the top rod. Only downside I ever found is that it doesn't work at all in wind. (the legs can be weighted, but the way I made the curtain has no way to hold it down--and 8x9 makes a better sail than backdrop)
Why, yes. I do need new pictures. Why do you ask?
Jeffrey Korst
San Francisco Bay Area Magician
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