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tdowell
Special user
996 Posts
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Posted: Apr 6, 2009 12:51am
When can we expect the Elite line to be available at our favorite shops???
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Steve Brooks
Manager
Northern California - United States
4207 Posts
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Posted: Apr 8, 2009 3:09pm
We are still finishing up a few loose ends as it were and hope to have the first four effects out within the next couple of months, possibly sooner. We want everything to be top notch with our goal being to try our very best to live up to everyone's high expectations. Thanks so much for your interest and your patience.
We are very excited about Tenyo Elite and feel very confident that most folks will be very pleased with the end result. 
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ixnay66
Inner circle
Denver
1321 Posts
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Posted: Apr 13, 2009 3:56pm
Will there be enough to go around or do you expect your first run to sell out quick? I'm definitely looking forward to picking up your Elite Fortune Sticks!
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Jason Palter
Loyal user
250 Posts
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Posted: Apr 13, 2009 8:08pm
Hello all:
We definitely expect to have enough to go around in the grand scheme of things. However it is of course tough to say. Based on the feedback from the World Magic Seminar, the MAGIC Magazine feature article, and the daily emails and phone calls we get, we think that these are going to be pretty popular. Let's hope so! lol
And ixnay66, I totally agree with you: I LOVE the Fortune Sticks too!!!! It really is a baffling routine that never fails to floor the audience!
Please let us know if you have any other questions. Thank you for your time.
Best regards,
Jason Palter
Paltergeist Unlimited / Tenyo Elite
(416) 410-5766
Check out our new trick: Third Degree Burn 2.0
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And also be sure to visit:
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ixnay66
Inner circle
Denver
1321 Posts
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Posted: May 28, 2009 8:08pm
I saw the ad for your line in Magic Magazine. Does that mean we should be able to pick these items up soon?
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GarySumpter
Special user
UK
831 Posts
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Posted: May 29, 2009 1:16pm
Any chance of some demos so we can see these products 'in the hands'?
Many Thanks
Gary
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Steve Brooks
Manager
Northern California - United States
4207 Posts
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Posted: Jun 1, 2009 12:16am
GarySumpter,
There are a zillion demo's of these first four Tenyo items on YouTube and elsewhere. After all, these tricks have been around for many years.
If you want to see video which shows the props up close, go to TenyoElite.com. We have several videos, photos, info, etc.
ixnay66,
You are correct, we do have a full page advert running each month in MAGIC magazine. The idea being to let folks know we are producing the Tenyo Elite line, where they can find information, our website, etc.
However, like many other companies running ads in magazines promoting various products, due to circumstances beyond their control the products are not always available even though there are advertisements promoting those products.
Remember that unlike the internet, magazine ads must be submitted months in advance and while companies (us included) certainly hope their releases fall in line with various promotions, that is not always the case. For great examples of this see the video game industry. 
Having said all that, please rest assured that we are doing everything humanly possible to have these available as soon as possible. We are just as excited as everyone else!
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GarySumpter
Special user
UK
831 Posts
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Posted: Jun 5, 2009 11:41am
Steve,
The video comparison links do nothing in Firefox
Gary
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Peter Loughran
V.I.P.
Ontario, Canada
2509 Posts
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Posted: Jun 8, 2009 4:13pm
Hey ixnay 66, we are getting closer and closer everyday to the official launch of the products in stores, and it is very exciting now as the produciton begins. We still plan to have these out as soon as possible and still with in 2009 in every magic shop that chooses to carry the new Tenyo Elite line.
Hey Gary, thanks for the heads up, Im not sure what the issue could be if it is not a browser setting problem, but we'll check into it.
Best,
Peter.
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ixnay66
Inner circle
Denver
1321 Posts
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Posted: Jun 13, 2009 10:43am
Thanks for the update guys!
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wjkrysak
Regular user
Atlanta
114 Posts
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Posted: Jun 16, 2009 9:42pm
Looking forward to release. Thanks for the updates. cheaha bill
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truthteller
Inner circle
2589 Posts
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Posted: Jun 17, 2009 11:39pm
Prediction: If they aren't ready in time for Magic LIVE we will not see them (delivered) until 2010.
Anybody else want to pick a date in the pool?
Brad Henderson
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Eddie Garland
Inner circle
Hells Kitchen, New York City
3335 Posts
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Posted: Jun 17, 2009 11:53pm
I'm feeling November...just in time for the Holidays and I suspect the packaging will be very cool.
I'm just being optimistic...why not?
Clandestine Dark Arts Media
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Steve Brooks
Manager
Northern California - United States
4207 Posts
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Posted: Jun 18, 2009 1:35am
truthteller - We made the decision many months ago that we were not going to attend MAGIC LIVE, regardless of whether or not the final products were in hand. I guess you must have missed that staff meeting. If on the other hand you are playing mentalist and are just making a prediction I highly suggest you do not quit your day job. 
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Jason Palter
Loyal user
250 Posts
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Posted: Jun 18, 2009 12:21pm
Hello all:
I would just like to chime in here along with my partners Steve and Peter regarding the release date.
I think that there are MANY reasons that this product line has never been created before. The three of us are running into one of the main ones right now: That is the MONUMENTAL task of setting up proper production of this line. These are meant to be elite editions of Tenyo's original tricks.....as a result we want to make sure that the quality is very good. For those of you that have never before created a product (or an entire line) in your life, let me assure you that the blood, sweat, tears, money, guts and TIME that it takes will spin your head. I know that just developing my first trick in my Paltergeist Unlimited line took 2 years to get it to the final piece that I wanted and then to market.......Two years!!!! Yikes! And with our new Tenyo Elite line we are not just developing one trick; it is an entire line (and 4 tricks to start with)! As I say, the task is just huge and somewhat overwhelming at times. But one of our main objectives is in quality, and as a result that simply takes a while to get right. We would never release something that is subpar before it is truly ready, just to "get it out there"; that would do nothing but give the line a bad name, and insult Tenyo who has been so helpful, trusting and gracious with us during this process. Not to worry our friends, this will all be worth it in the end!
And "truthteller", I know that you didn't mean your comment to sound as sarcastic as it read......I have no doubt that you intended it to be tongue-in-cheek, lol! We so appreciate your (and everyone else's for that matter) patience on this........We sure intend to have these 4 out before 2010, because we have another 4 coming next year too!
We get emails on a daily basis by so many that are anxiously awaiting this new line. Thank you all again for your positive comments and thoughts.
Please let us know if you have any other questions. Thank you for your time.
Best regards,
Jason Palter
Paltergeist Unlimited / Tenyo Elite
(416) 410-5766
Check out our new trick: Third Degree Burn 2.0
http://www.paltergeist.com
And also be sure to visit:
http://www.tenyoelite.com
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truthteller
Inner circle
2589 Posts
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Posted: Jun 18, 2009 3:58pm
Just a prediction. Nothing more. Products will be shipped to consumers after 1/1/2010. Will be happy to be proven wrong.
Brad Henderson
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Jason Palter
Loyal user
250 Posts
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Posted: Jun 18, 2009 10:41pm
*SIGH* Thanks for the optimism truthteller! Have a great night! 
Best regards,
Jason Palter
Paltergeist Unlimited / Tenyo Elite
(416) 410-5766
Check out our new trick: Third Degree Burn 2.0
http://www.paltergeist.com
And also be sure to visit:
http://www.tenyoelite.com
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silverking
Inner circle
4398 Posts
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Posted: Jun 24, 2009 12:30pm
You're late with the product boys......get over the urge to lash out at customers wondering why the stuff isn't out yet, and get the product on the shelves.
There are customers waiting with cash in hand (myself included), but I'm not looking to be insulted just for wondering why the products are taking so long to get on the shelves, and when I might be able to purchase them.
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Steve Brooks
Manager
Northern California - United States
4207 Posts
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Posted: Jun 24, 2009 9:38pm
Lashing out at customers? Not at all silverking.
We have never taken pre-orders nor have we accepted payment from anyone. Other than letting folks know they will be released this year we have never announced a particular day and time. Doing so would be next to impossible given the criteria we are under with the Japanese. 
My answer to Brad was based on his comments, which I feel might lead folks to believe he knows something nobody else seems to, myself included! I was simply setting the record straight - that's all.
Our goal is to have these items available as soon as humanly possible. Since we have done our part and are now waiting on a third party we are as frustrated and anxious as anyone could be - believe me. Packaging, instruction booklets, etc are all set and ready to go - a few last minute changes were required on the Elite prototypes and once we have final approval from Japan they will be manufactured and begin shipping to dealers.
Thank you so much for your patience and understanding thus far.
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Eddie Garland
Inner circle
Hells Kitchen, New York City
3335 Posts
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Posted: Sep 25, 2009 10:48am
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On 2009-06-17 23:53, Eddie Garland wrote:
I'm feeling November...just in time for the Holidays and I suspect the packaging will be very cool.
I'm just being optimistic...why not?
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I think I was right! Hooray!
Congrats Tenyo Elite!
Clandestine Dark Arts Media
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ixnay66
Inner circle
Denver
1321 Posts
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Posted: Sep 30, 2009 5:59pm
$115 shipped? Seriously???
That's about $55 too much. Thanks but no thanks.
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Robert M
Inner circle
1994 Posts
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Posted: Sep 30, 2009 8:40pm
Personally, I've been waiting for professional quality Tenyo items for 20+ years. So, the price seems about right to me.
Robert
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Steve Brooks
Manager
Northern California - United States
4207 Posts
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Posted: Oct 1, 2009 10:45pm
To Eddie Garland and Robert M I say Thank you! We are excited as well. To ixnay66 and the rest who think the prices are too high, I wish you only the best using the tried and true plastic versions (if you can even find them to purchase) that Tenyo has produced over the years. Both versions will produce a great illusion for your audience. After all, some folks use plastic cups, others use Paul Fox, Johnson, etc.
For anyone who missed the article about Tenyo Elite that appeared in MAGIC magazine or haven't been following our progress, I will attempt to give you a very brief explanation in what we have been going thru at JPS Magic Studios Ltd. in bringing the Elite line into the hands of magicians.
You must first understood manufacturing here in the United States and Canada (or most places for that matter) in order to have a better understanding in regards to the higher priced Tenyo Elite line of tricks.
Tenyo Elite is being made under an exclusive license granted to JPS Magic Studios Ltd. from Tenyo of Japan. Tenyo of Japan has no financial involvement with the project whatsoever - none. Therefor the full burden of prototyping, manufacturing, packaging, promoting, etc rests soley on the shoulders of JPS Magic Studios of Canada.
For the record, Tenyo of Japan has primarily provided their blessing for the Elite project and samples of their various Tenyo items. They have also been very helpful in our endeavor by providing advice, suggestions, historical information, etc.
Now, because there are no actual blueprints or schematics of any kind available for the original plastic Tenyo tricks, each trick produced for the Elite line has been designed by literally backwards engineering the original tricks (i.e, taking each trick apart piece by piece and figuring out how it works).
In addition, making something out of plastic using an injection mold is one thing - making parts and tooling out of metals (Heavy gauge aluminum, brass, etc) is quite another. Add in custom laser etching and anodization and the prices really begin to soar. Did I mention the cool cases or bags which hold each Elte trick? Also, because we are not able to have thousands upon thousands made at any given time (i.e, we are having very small numbers ran) the manufacturing process alone is extremely expensive.
Even the cool black boxes which hold each Tenyo Elite trick have been custom designed and manufactured for us. The Elite manuals themselves are not the simple single sheet instructions one is accustomed to finding in your typical tenyo box.
Each Elite manual contains very good instructions and routines with photo illustrations printed on high gloss stock. Each instruction manual includes instructions written in both English and Japanese. Translation costs alone were enormous.
Friends, these are not your fathers Tenyo tricks. While they are not indestructable, they should last you a lifetime if cared for properly. The difference in quality can best be appreciated by holding one in your hand. The only true analogy I can think of would be to compare a cheap plastic Bill Tube to a nice heavy brass model and even that example really does not do these pieces the justice they deserve.
To sum it all up - no expense has been spared to insure that the Elite line is everything all of us had always wished the original Tenyo tricks could be.
The three of us have spent the better part of three years and thousands of dollars in the developement of the Tenyo Elite line of tricks - nothing has been rushed to market.
We are proud of what we are doing and make no apologies. If prices on materials, manufacturing and other services would have been less then we would have not only passed the savings on to our customers but would be shipping these tricks to dealers. To keep the retail costs as reasonable as possible we are only selling these directly from our website.
As it stands, you are getting a great product at the best price possible. If this places the Elite line out of the budgets of some, we certainly understand.
Hope this helps explain things a little better.
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magicmann
Loyal user
275 Posts
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Posted: Oct 2, 2009 1:11pm
Mine is ordered and I can't wait
Paul
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huggie50
Regular user
North Las Vegas
109 Posts
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Posted: Oct 2, 2009 3:03pm
I ordered both and can hardly wait to see them.
Magically yours,
Huggie
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Steve Brooks
Manager
Northern California - United States
4207 Posts
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Posted: Oct 2, 2009 11:56pm
magicmann and huggie50, thanks so much for your support of the Tenyo Elite line.
I am extremely confident that you will be very happy with your purchases.
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Peter Loughran
V.I.P.
Ontario, Canada
2509 Posts
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Posted: Oct 28, 2009 6:59pm
Just another update, incase you haven't checked the other thread: We are pleased to announce that the first two products from the line (MoonSpinner and Fortune Sticks) are now officially in stock, and all orders have now been shipped. As we were packaging and shipping like crazy today, we kept admiring the beauty of these over and over again with huge smiles on our faces as we were packaging up each one. We are so excited for everyone, we promise you won't be disappointed!
Tenyo Elite Team.
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Eddie Garland
Inner circle
Hells Kitchen, New York City
3335 Posts
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Posted: Oct 28, 2009 7:30pm
Whoo Hoo Congrats Gents!!!
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Steve Brooks
Manager
Northern California - United States
4207 Posts
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Posted: Oct 31, 2009 5:38pm
Thanks Eddie.
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huggie50
Regular user
North Las Vegas
109 Posts
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Posted: Nov 2, 2009 2:35pm
Received my Tenyo Elite "Moonspinner" and "The Fortune Sticks" today, and they are everything they said they would be, just as advertised. These are really nice and the instruction book is well written in both English and Japanese. I can hardly wait for the next release.
Magically yours,
Huggie
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