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electric.ceu

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Posted: Apr 15, 2009 11:17pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of electric.ceu  

I just watched an old (1982) Videonics video of Michael Ammar called 'World Class Closeup,' and he said, "I don't want to run when I'm not being chased." By the way, he actually had hair in the video. I've heard many other people say this. I'm just wondering if anybody knows who first coined the phrase?

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Uli Weigel

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Posted: Apr 16, 2009 9:05am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Uli Weigel  

Al Baker coined that phrase. He's also known for this one: "Many a good trick has been ruined by improvement."
electric.ceu

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Posted: Apr 16, 2009 7:13pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of electric.ceu  

Thanks! That's another great saying!

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Bill Palmer

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Posted: Apr 29, 2009 6:00pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Bill Palmer  

I thought Mae West said it first.

Or maybe it was, "Don't run when you aren't being chaste."

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Gerald

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Posted: May 1, 2009 10:04am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Gerald  

That is one of your best replies, Bill.

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Donal Chayce

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Posted: May 1, 2009 3:18pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Donal Chayce  

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On 2009-04-29 18:00, Bill Palmer wrote:
I thought Mae West said it first.

Or maybe it was, "Don't run when you aren't being chaste."



If politicos were to follow Miss West's advice, the halls of Congress would be all but empty.

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DStachowiak

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Posted: May 6, 2009 8:03am    Reply with quote   View Profile of DStachowiak  

Quote:

On 2009-05-01 15:18, Donal Chayce wrote:
Quote:

On 2009-04-29 18:00, Bill Palmer wrote:
I thought Mae West said it first.

Or maybe it was, "Don't run when you aren't being chaste."



If politicos were to follow Miss West's advice, the halls of Congress would be all but empty.


At least, it would be a start.

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andre combrinck

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Posted: Apr 28, 2010 3:08pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of andre combrinck  

In fact, that was Solomon of the Bible. But said: "Only a fool runs when not being chased!"
Bill Palmer

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Posted: Apr 28, 2010 7:02pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Bill Palmer  

What's the book, chapter and verse?

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mindguru

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Posted: May 29, 2010 2:38am    Reply with quote   View Profile of mindguru  

You guys make me laugh.
jtb

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Posted: May 29, 2010 5:06pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of jtb  

Here is a quote from Al Baker's 'Magical Ways and Means':

Another thing: some magicians always want to prove something that the audience doesn’t question. They tell the story about the little repertory company with a special between acts, a magician with no appeal, not much experience. They tell him he has to play a bit in the show, put this cloak on, this hat on and use this rubber dagger. He comes out at the proper cue and stabs the villain. The poor villain comes back at him, “Gad, what the hell did you use?” “I used my own dagger.” “Why didn’t you use the rubber dagger that I gave you?” “You cant pass that out for examination,” the magician replied.
Bill Palmer

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Posted: Jun 2, 2010 3:53am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Bill Palmer  

There are so many noobs who ruin magic tricks by wasting countless minutes allowing people to examine props, that I really wonder why they do it. There are exceptions, of course. For example, when Richard Hatch does the cups and balls, he hands out the cups so that a couple of people can examine them. HOWEVER -- he has entertaining material that goes on while the prop examination is taking place. You can't just sit there like a bump on a log waiting for people to give you your props back.

There is a principle I call "examination by implication." It occurs like this. You hand a deck of cards to a spectator to hold while you reach into your pocket for a Sharpie marker. Or, you have a spectator hold a coin while you reach for a glass tumbler. You don't say, "Examine this, please." Just let them hold the prop. BUT you watch them out of the corner of your eye, so you don't let them do risky things with the items.

Or, you can just place something on the table and (apparently) pay no attention to it.

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