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Roki
Special user
London
640 Posts
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Posted: Feb 11, 2011 8:33pm
Thank you Randwill for answering both my questions . Very useful and what I suspected . This would make an excellent carry anywhere item and I rarely where a jacket when I am not working. I guess I need lighter jackets rather than trying to reinvent the pull! or use the non reel versions.
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Sean Giles
Inner circle
Cambridge/ UK
1915 Posts
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Posted: Feb 12, 2011 7:26am
Received mine today and it really is as nice as everyone says. Very quiet and looks very deceptive. This is the rolls Royce of ring flights. Brilliant.
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papillon
Regular user
104 Posts
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Posted: Feb 22, 2011 1:52pm
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On 2011-02-10 14:21, Roki wrote:
Another burning question !!
Is it possible for the spectator to take the keys(and ring ) from your pocket while your hands remain in front ? That would be truly amazing! I understand that ring flights usually require the mage to "finish" by lifting the keyring from his pocket so the ring can complete its journey.
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I think you could ask them to take them out of your pocket and then give them to you. Whereafter you hold it up with one key, to prevent the reel to stretch. As the way of holding the keys has an slight influence on the handling of the reel. One change in handling, if you are used to another reel could be that this ring flight automatically pulls. You cannot click the reel in a position that it does not pull.
For magicians this effect is more stunning because of the naked keyholder, and it is true, the last remaining part of the reel is very invisible. I wonder though if for a public it is not more impressive to find the ring back in a box or a keychain-wallet, as it seems harder to get it in.
Bought mine in Blackpool last week. I am very happy with it.
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Sean Giles
Inner circle
Cambridge/ UK
1915 Posts
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Posted: Feb 25, 2011 6:07am
Hi All
This is a question for everyone who does RFR. I'm wondering how many of you do Dave Bonsalls follow up 'ring to sealed envelope in wallet'? This is the routine you can see on the RFR DVD. He sells another DVD that teaches the handling. Its a great follow up and gets fantastic reactions. What are your thoughts on this routine?
regards
Sean
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Randwill
Inner circle
1795 Posts
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Posted: Feb 26, 2011 11:32pm
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On 2011-02-22 13:52, papillon wrote:
For magicians this effect is more stunning because of the naked keyholder, and it is true, the last remaining part of the reel is very invisible. I wonder though if for a public it is not more impressive to find the ring back in a box or a keychain-wallet, as it seems harder to get it in.
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I hadn't thought of that, but the cleverness of the reel's hiding place certainly has an appeal to me as a magician. The thing about the key chain wallet-style holders is -- who carries one of those anymore? A quick check shows me that they are still readily available, so maybe some people do.
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lukecloughmagic
Loyal user
203 Posts
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Posted: Mar 1, 2011 12:53pm
I think I need this!!! I know a lot of guys who use this and they all swear by it, however I have heard a a few horror stories with flying stones etc!!! I would only do this with a band I think, any thoughts?
www.lukecloughmagic.co.uk
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cmeyers
New user
29 Posts
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Posted: Sep 8, 2011 8:09pm
I have had mine for a year now and it still works great.
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Tommytallica
New user
uuuh jeg har skrevet
74 Posts
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Posted: Sep 21, 2011 7:24pm
I think I will try this one out.
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Xcath1
Inner circle
1038 Posts
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Posted: Feb 5, 2012 7:05pm
Hello, to owners in the US how do you feel about the look of the "european" key on the ring? I have never seen one of these key untill this trick. Thanks
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Magicmike40
New user
94 Posts
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Posted: Jun 11, 2012 1:48pm
The Flip key is the one to get for the US.
Magic Mike
www.MagicWithaTwist.com
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magicblademan
Elite user
uk
473 Posts
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Posted: Jul 16, 2012 9:57pm
Does this work ok when wearing jeans rather than pants using back pocket in jeans ?..
If you put the time in....you will achieve ...
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M Sini
Inner circle
1176 Posts
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Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:25am
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On 2012-07-16 21:57, magicblademan wrote:
Does this work ok when wearing jeans rather than pants using back pocket in jeans ?..
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Works just fine with jeans.
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magicblademan
Elite user
uk
473 Posts
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Posted: Jul 23, 2012 3:54pm
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On 2012-07-19 09:25, M Sini wrote:
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On 2012-07-16 21:57, magicblademan wrote:
Does this work ok when wearing jeans rather than pants using back pocket in jeans ?..
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Works just fine with jeans. Thanks will need to get me one !!
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If you put the time in....you will achieve ...
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paisa23
Inner circle
7 years no smoking. And counting
6384 Posts
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Posted: Jul 26, 2012 9:00pm
Short sleeve?
June 22 2012 9:02 AM baby Usnavi was born!
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Bill Hegbli
Eternal Order
Bill and Bill in Fort Wayne Indiana
12881 Posts
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Posted: Jul 27, 2012 1:50am
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On 2012-07-26 21:00, paisa23 wrote:
Short sleeve?
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Well of course! But how many short sleeve jackets do you own?
Heree watch this video and you will understand better.
http://www.propdog.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=59
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Harry Murphy
Staff
Maryland
4852 Posts
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Posted: Jul 27, 2012 6:50am
I take it by the question; can it be used in "short sleeves", that the individual asking is very new to magic, or has never held a reel-based flying ring prop (and probably doesn't know that there are non-reel versions available) much less performed with one, and/or cannot think outside the box and instructions that the prop came with.
Most reel-based ring-fligh props (including this one) can be performed in Jeans and tee-shirt.That is to say NO sleeves. It takes the degree of difficult to a higher level. Frankly, it takes a bit of blocking to build a routine that covers the necessary angles. Any Student of Eugene Burger knows exactly what I mean (and knows exactly what needs to be done). One could easily perform Bruce Cervon's routine or Dick Barry's routine in short sleeve.
In the case of this prop and routine a jacket is desired but not required.
As to the look of the key being "European". ?!? I have been driving German made cars for decades and keys are as being gimmicked for this trick. VW has a flip key as does Audi, etc. Amongst my friends two drive Audi's and have just this type of key on their key rings. By the way, no one I know carries an American half dollar and no-one under the age of 20 has ever handled one. Just saying.
The artist formally known as Mumblepeas!
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paisa23
Inner circle
7 years no smoking. And counting
6384 Posts
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Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:31am
Harry, was right I was refering to being able to do this in Short Sleeves. Or even in a Uniform other than a suit. Being in San Antonio when I do perform it usually is outside in short sleeve type attire. I currently and have for many years used Ringer which is great but I was looking to add or expand. Below is usually what I perform in. I know many Ring Flights are Reel based and have stayed away because of numerous people voiceing their issues with them but since I kept reading that this is the Grail I figured let me ask a few questions. Angles would not be an issue or audience management but is that type of tailoring to the effect worth it or should I stick with what I already use and still works. I really just liked the Updated design of the key fob of RRF.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMq0aiPiOAA&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op4W-H_9lVk&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3FbFalkQBs&feature=plcp what about tapered sleeves? Is it strong enough for that or loose cuffs better?
June 22 2012 9:02 AM baby Usnavi was born!
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http://www.facebook.com/people/Wilder-J-Rua/505202382
http://www.myspace.com/wildrua
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Bill Hegbli
Eternal Order
Bill and Bill in Fort Wayne Indiana
12881 Posts
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Posted: Jul 27, 2012 12:50pm
Paisa23, I suggest you stick with what you have. Some tricks require a performer to make certain changes, as I see you do not desire to, or in your uniform - can't, then this would not be a good choice for you. Not all tricks can be done for any occasion or attire of dress, this is one of them.
If you like the key fob specialty key, then just buy a Mercedes and put it on your key ring. LOL
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paisa23
Inner circle
7 years no smoking. And counting
6384 Posts
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Posted: Jul 27, 2012 1:25pm
Thanks a lot Bill. I Guess I will do that.
June 22 2012 9:02 AM baby Usnavi was born!
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Harry Murphy
Staff
Maryland
4852 Posts
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Posted: Jul 30, 2012 5:31pm
Or just a Revolution Ring Flight of the make of car you like. Way cheaper than buying the actual car.
The artist formally known as Mumblepeas!
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runt_jorden
New user
53 Posts
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Posted: Jul 31, 2012 12:07pm
I use this ringflight every show and It has never let me down. I can really recomend this.
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Jason Simonds
Regular user
Pensacola, FL
103 Posts
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Posted: Aug 8, 2012 4:48pm
If you gimmick an existing Volkswagen key, will it damage the "chip" in the key? Will the key still work in my Jetta?
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AutarchicFlux
New user
61 Posts
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Posted: Aug 22, 2012 2:50pm
What's the smallest size a fob or key can be to still accommodate the gimmick?
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Bonz
Regular user
Twickenham, London, UK
111 Posts
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Posted: Sep 5, 2012 8:14am
Hi Guys,
The Ring Flight Revolution isn't just a gimmick that you put inside a key. The internal workings of the key are removed, the key body is then milled out to millimetre precision to specific dimensions depending on the make of the key. Then reel is fitted inside, but it's not just a reel that you can take out and put back in again, these are individual reel components that are then permanently fitted to the key base (see the below photo).
If a key is converted, then it can never be used as a real key again.
Hope this helps clear things up.
Click here to view attached image.
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pearljamjeff
Inner circle
I live inside your computer.
1240 Posts
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Posted: Nov 18, 2012 2:29am
I just ordered one of these because I love the plot, and loved my Departure, for the 3 months it lasted... And I didn't perform it that often. Ever since Mark Allen's Thread Manager, I have had profound respect for creators who do their own manufacturing. The level of quality is so much higher. I am only on my second TM2 in 10 years, and it seems like the same level of precision and care has gone into this ring flight gimmick. Just hoping international shipping doesn't take too long 
Jeff Travilla - Author of "The Extractor." New project coming eventually... hopefully... when I get a minute away from work. Sorry for not being more active here lately. Check out what I'm doing these days with Michigan Web Design.
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puffinmonkey
Veteran user
Seattle
377 Posts
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Posted: Dec 7, 2012 3:58pm
Question about travel with the RFR. Traveling, would you all recommend checking my RFR in or can I get past security with it on me as a carry-on?
Thanks,
Alex
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puffinmonkey
Veteran user
Seattle
377 Posts
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Posted: Dec 8, 2012 4:18pm
Anyone know the answer to the question above? ^ I tried contacting Dave on his website and no reply.
-Alex
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Jon Blakeney
Special user
562 Posts
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Posted: Dec 8, 2012 9:58pm
My second Departureh has just broken !!!!!!!!!!!!!
No more mucking around,it's time to buy a Ring flight Revolution
'What the eye's see the heart must believe"
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Jon Blakeney
Special user
562 Posts
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Posted: Dec 8, 2012 9:59pm
I don't remember spelling departure as above ,oh well?
'What the eye's see the heart must believe"
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Jon Blakeney
Special user
562 Posts
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Posted: Dec 11, 2012 9:34pm
One Ring flight revolution ordered today.I chose the Mini fob.
Hopefully it arives before the 21st of december as I have a corperate walk around gig that evening.
Fingers crossed.
'What the eye's see the heart must believe"
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