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magicbern
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Hong Kong, China
1104 Posts
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Posted: Jun 4, 2012 8:42pm
I have several of Tango's products - 2 expanded Kennedy half, 2 TUCs (Ike and Kennedy), Hopping half and Dollar Size Brass Boston Box. The worksmanship is superb and the TUC works like a dream!
I just contacted MR tango about making a TUC Morgan and his reply was almost instantaneous - what excellent pre-customer service! So how can you NOT want to order from him? In this day and age its great to have such responsive and enthusiastic service! I'm a Tango Magic Fan!!!
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Merc Man
Inner circle
Nuneaton, Warwickshire
1895 Posts
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Posted: Jun 5, 2012 4:33am
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On 2012-06-04 18:25, bowers wrote:
I agree barry but great with american coins though.
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Agree with you 100% on that - although I've since sold my initial quarter & half dollar versions of TUC and subsequently reverted back to British Currency to appear, to use this newly adopted phrase in magic.......'More Organic' (whatever that bleedin' means!).
That said, give it a few months, and no doubt I'll be buying a walking liberty version.
Barry Allen
Mercedes-Benz W123 Series.........undoubtedly, Stuttgart's finest ever hour.
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shadowspirit
New user
12 Posts
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Posted: Jun 6, 2012 8:55am
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On 2012-06-04 16:55, Merc Man wrote:
I don't have a problem 'flashing' the other side of the 2p version BUT it won't stand careful examination in the same manner that some of the other versions will.
Also, I'd recommend that you look for some older, non-magnetic 2p coins in your change and put these aside. Due to the newer UK copper coins being 'ferromagnetic' (attracted to a magnet) as they are made of steel, working with these together with a TUC can be somewhat difficult to say the least!
That said, I carry a UK 2p and a 10p TUC with me everywhere these days. It does literally any effect possible with coins - it's the greatest gaffed coin to ever hit the market. It takes some degree of practice to get your TUC effects to look 'clean' but every minute of practice is more than worthwhile.
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Merc Man,
I'm not doubting it's usefulness or it's cleverness. It's just a shame that I don't feel happy using it! I'm really conscious of that 'gap' showing. Should I give up on it or buy one of the US versions? How is the 10p?
PS Although I'm new to this forum I'm not new to magic and have been performing for 15 years. I'm still learning every day, of course, and want to learn to use this gimmick but my version doesn't fill me with confidence!
SS
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Merc Man
Inner circle
Nuneaton, Warwickshire
1895 Posts
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Posted: Jun 6, 2012 9:49am
SS,
The gap in the 10p version isn't so pronounced. You also haven't got the magnetic problem - so coins across, etc. is much cleaner. That said, since sorting out some older non-magnetic 2p's, my 2p TUC is a lot easier to use.
One thing that you may want to consider doing is inserting an additional teflon disc (or a small piece of teflon adhesive tape) into the shell - it certainly aids separation; particularly with the 2p version as the leaf of the coin isn't milled, and subsequently the edging is a little sharp.
Don't panic over the gap - if you are taking your TUC coin out of your pocket with a handful of loose change you don't NEED TO show both sides anyway. Don't worry about overly proving anything - to their mind, it's just a 2p coin.
Barry Allen
Mercedes-Benz W123 Series.........undoubtedly, Stuttgart's finest ever hour.
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Trooper11040
Special user
Mount Joy, PA
660 Posts
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Posted: Jun 6, 2012 10:15am
I tried the coins across on several lay people last night...fried them! TUC is good!
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J-Mac
Inner circle
Ridley Park, PA
3004 Posts
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Posted: Jun 6, 2012 2:22pm
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On 2012-06-03 21:46, Atom3339 wrote:
Mr. Tango, Isn't over 85,000 views a record???
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Nope. Several have well over 100,000 views. (Check out the original TKO thread in Latest and Greatest). Just bringing you back down to earth. 
Jim
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shadowspirit
New user
12 Posts
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Posted: Jun 6, 2012 2:40pm
Merc,
Thanks, I'll stick with it for a while. I see what you mean about the leaf of the coin, it does catch a bit. I never feel the need to over prove anything and rarely hand things out, (even real coins) after all, why should I, I've got nothing to hide, right  You're right, if someone handed me a coin and said look, it's not a fake (either outwardly or by inference) then my reaction would be, 'okay, then what about the other four you didn't show me earlier?'
Anyway, thanks for the reassurance!
SS
BTW, taking possession of a Schoolcraft English Penny Flipper soon. Can't wait!
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funsway
Inner circle
improbable magic & extraordinary acts
4760 Posts
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Posted: Jun 6, 2012 7:46pm
There are many wasy of allowing spectaors to handle coins during a routine without "handing it out" that validates the naturalness of the coins without focusing attention. This is why "TUC Appreciation" offers several methods for Switching the TUC in and out of effects. My latest effect "TUCed Away" is available for the asking (gusarimagic@comcast.net) and allows for an ending to a TUC effect with dramatic results and "closing the door."
"there is real merit in the magician who tries to be creative – from such endeavors magic sustains its life energy." Harold Rice
ShareBooks at www.eversway.com * questions at gusarimagic@comcast.net
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shadowspirit
New user
12 Posts
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Posted: Jun 7, 2012 5:24am
Funsway,
I agree! When I said I 'rarely hand things out' I really meant I don't say something like, 'here, as you can see this is just a normal coin' (or some such). If it is natural and there is a reason for doing so I do put coins in spectators hands, ask them to hold them etc.
How does one get your 'TUCed Away' effect then I would be delighted to give it a try!
SS
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funsway
Inner circle
improbable magic & extraordinary acts
4760 Posts
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Posted: Jun 7, 2012 7:52am
Send a request to gusarimagic@comcast.net
PS to those who have it. Get some inexpensive gold coins that you can gift to the spectator -- or even better, ones imprinted with your name/address. When a spectator is the "hero" in a magic effect they think they own the thing produced ;-)
"there is real merit in the magician who tries to be creative – from such endeavors magic sustains its life energy." Harold Rice
ShareBooks at www.eversway.com * questions at gusarimagic@comcast.net
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Merc Man
Inner circle
Nuneaton, Warwickshire
1895 Posts
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Posted: Jun 7, 2012 8:18am
SS - if you want to PM me your address, I'll put a little strip of teflon tape in the post to you to try out.
You may find that the TUC then subsequently separates easier.
Barry Allen
Mercedes-Benz W123 Series.........undoubtedly, Stuttgart's finest ever hour.
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magicbern
Inner circle
Hong Kong, China
1104 Posts
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Posted: Jun 8, 2012 10:47pm
On 2012-02-11 00:16, J-Mac wrote:
I think I know what he means, Banzai. I have an Ike TUC and it is also very loose - always has been. Loose enough that when you hold it up one edge hangs open. And if I were to hold it by the edges of the shell portion any overt move can cause the insert to fall out. When I use this TUC - which isn't very often - I have to handle it with great care. BTW, none of my half-dollar TUCs, C/S TUC, or quarter TUC are loose like that at all.
Jim
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I have 4 TUCs (1 Morgan, 3 non-silver gaffs) and NONE are like this. You definitely got a bad one, guys. Time for a shipment to Argentina.
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Then Mr. Tango posted the following:
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Mr. Tango Posted: Feb 13, 2012 4:37pm
No Banzai, you are wrong, every coin work different, I can say that half of my TUC are are very loose, everything depend how the coin get adjust by self. The important is that the coin work for the effect.
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According to what Mr. Tango wrote (and J-Mac, whose opinion I trust), there is some variation in the strength of the m****t on each coin.
Mr. Tango rightly states that there are methods to decrease the strength, by adding another layer of mouse tape, for example, but I don't know how you would adjust the strength upwards. In that case, I would probably pursue a return or repair.
Alan
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Hi
I also received a TUC Eisenhower Dollar that was really loose. If you give it a light shake it will dislodge. Wondering if all Ike's were like this or just the ones purchased from dealers. I bought mine from Penguin Magic.
My TUC Kennedy half doesn't have this problem.. So what can be done about it? Any advice?
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bowers
Inner circle
3006 Posts
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Posted: Jun 8, 2012 11:23pm
I have a tuc in morgen 3 ike tucs
1 walking liberty 2 kennedy tucs
a copper silver and a silver copper tuc
and none of these are loose.i would say
most are too strong and I have had to add
extra tape over the magnet to loosen them up.
todd
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shadowspirit
New user
12 Posts
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Posted: Jun 10, 2012 4:57pm
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On 2012-06-07 07:52, funsway wrote:
Send a request to gusarimagic@comcast.net
PS to those who have it. Get some inexpensive gold coins that you can gift to the spectator -- or even better, ones imprinted with your name/address. When a spectator is the "hero" in a magic effect they think they own the thing produced ;-)
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Request sent and instructions received. THANKS!
Haven't had a chance to look at it properly yet but it looks good!
SS
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shadowspirit
New user
12 Posts
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Posted: Jun 10, 2012 5:03pm
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On 2012-06-07 08:18, Merc Man wrote:
SS - if you want to PM me your address, I'll put a little strip of teflon tape in the post to you to try out.
You may find that the TUC then subsequently separates easier.
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!! THANKS !!
I've PM'd you and appreciate it!
SS
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Merc Man
Inner circle
Nuneaton, Warwickshire
1895 Posts
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Posted: Jun 11, 2012 6:55am
It's in the post to you today fella.
Barry Allen
Mercedes-Benz W123 Series.........undoubtedly, Stuttgart's finest ever hour.
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Trooper11040
Special user
Mount Joy, PA
660 Posts
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Posted: Jun 11, 2012 8:45am
Another fine example of Magicians helping magicians on this forum! I would say this is probably my favorite forum on the internet!
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AdamChance
Loyal user
299 Posts
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Posted: Jun 12, 2012 2:22am
So what's everyone's favourite trick to do with a TUC?
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Merc Man
Inner circle
Nuneaton, Warwickshire
1895 Posts
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Posted: Jun 12, 2012 4:28am
Stand Up - Coins to Glass
Quickie/bar trick - Coin Thru Note (bill); shown to me by Mr. Tango. Not the one on the current DVD (but it's probably going to be on the updated TUC DVD).
How it looks -
- show just one coin and one note
- separate the coin as note is shown both sides
- lay note flat on table clearly over the top of the coin (leaf) that you've also put on the table (or their hand)
- shell is now in classic or finger palm
- wave hand over note, drop palmed coin on top of note - giving the impression it's risen up and penetrated upwards
- pick up note by the extreme edge (leaf under note adheres to the shell on top)
- throw across coin(s) that's now (apparently) risen up through the note into your other hand
- the leaf and shell join automatically together as they arrive in your palm.
Barry Allen
Mercedes-Benz W123 Series.........undoubtedly, Stuttgart's finest ever hour.
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cafezingo
New user
15 Posts
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Posted: Jun 12, 2012 6:20am
Those who would like to try another shimmed card might consider the Shimmed Card 2.0. It's shimmed across almost the entire card, and is exactly the weight and thickness of a regular card. The card costs about $10. The one that I had bought earlier was $5, and was not shimmed uniformly, and was thicker and more rigid than a standard card.
Most places don't let you select the card that you'll receive ... I received a Joker. (At first, receiving a Joker bothered me, since I generally don't do effects with that card. However, for coin-thru-card and similar effects, the Joker provides additional patter opportunities.)
This card will hold a Johnson shimmed half-dollar OK, and release it easily when the card is hit on the reverse side with a PK ring.
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shadowspirit
New user
12 Posts
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Posted: Jun 12, 2012 3:04pm
Just wanted to thank Merc Man for all his help - your tops!
Also, FunSway, thanks for your routine!
SS
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Trooper11040
Special user
Mount Joy, PA
660 Posts
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Posted: Jun 12, 2012 7:17pm
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On 2012-06-12 02:22, AdamChance wrote:
So what's everyone's favourite trick to do with a TUC?
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Coins across using the TUC is magical
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magicbern
Inner circle
Hong Kong, China
1104 Posts
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Posted: Jun 12, 2012 11:06pm
From the videos I've seen that's true, but how would it compare with, say, Come Fly With Me by Mark Mason?
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Mr. Tango
Veteran user
Argentina
325 Posts
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Posted: Jun 13, 2012 1:28pm
I start ALL MY SHOWS, with my 3 fly coin, using the TUC Morgan dollar, it is the only version where you can give the 3 cons to be checked and you can show your hands after every trip
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Flyswatter
Loyal user
238 Posts
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Posted: Jun 13, 2012 6:55pm
Mr. Tango or anyone else could perhaps help me, is there anyway to improve my first Gen TUC that has a square mag instead of a circle? It's really hard to open the [...and it's quite noisy when you handle the coin from hand to hand, is it normal?
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funsway
Inner circle
improbable magic & extraordinary acts
4760 Posts
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Posted: Jun 14, 2012 4:25am
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On 2012-06-13 13:28, Mr. Tango wrote:
and you can show your hands after every trip
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I think he means you can show that you do not have any extra coin in hand after each trip/phase (shutting the door) and is done as part of the flow -- never just a demonstration. Nor does this imply that you should have the coins checked. The "knowledge" that they could be handed out at the end effects you presense during the presentation. Several different effect allow you to display the hands "clean" between phases. By starting with one of them he "sets the tone" for later effects. You must always teach the audience what is "normal" for you and the setting.
I dislike a simple comparison of different methods or gaffs for this reason. The greater question of how it plays as part of an entire routine or show is more critical
This is a point never stressed enough -- the confidence one has when performing with the TUC is part of the illusion.
"there is real merit in the magician who tries to be creative – from such endeavors magic sustains its life energy." Harold Rice
ShareBooks at www.eversway.com * questions at gusarimagic@comcast.net
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shadowspirit
New user
12 Posts
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Posted: Jun 14, 2012 8:20am
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On 2012-06-11 06:55, Merc Man wrote:
It's in the post to you today fella.
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Merc Man
Arrived and fitted and working like a dream!
Much more confident handling the TUC as it now separates when I expect it to, 100%!
Funsway
I'll have ago at your routine now
Thanks
SS
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bowers
Inner circle
3006 Posts
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Posted: Jun 14, 2012 8:25pm
Mr tango
have you thought about making a dollar size silver copper tuc?
I think it would go over well.
todd
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Mr. Tango
Veteran user
Argentina
325 Posts
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Posted: Jun 22, 2012 9:22am
About the Dollar copper coins, I got today some samples of coins that a costumer send me and it looks greats. They are a copper American coin as the One dollar Liberty but in copper and I will see if I can get a good quantity of them to produce a whole line, as Copper silver, TUC one dollar copper and silver, Hopping half, etc.
But it will be after the FISM. I decide to stop coin project after the FISM, I will be there and I will present at close up contest and all my energy is there for now.
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Mr. Tango
Veteran user
Argentina
325 Posts
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Posted: Jul 1, 2012 6:20pm
Hello Friends, I will be at FISM next week, if some of you are there please come to my stand to say hello.
Bye
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