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AdamChance
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Posted: Apr 4, 2012 2:49pm
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On 2012-04-03 16:56, Mr. Tango wrote:
Friends, I wanted to have the new DVD ready for April, but two months ago I crashed my medium right finger nail when I was rowing in the river, (I go every day to row) and I was waiting that the nail went back to his natural color.
After 2 months waiting I think that it can take so much time to come back to his natura colour, just my nail is not in his best stetic situation for a video. But I can't wait more, because I receive e-mails every day asking for the "coin across" routine that everybody saw at Wizard Product Review, so I have to take a desicion: to put as title of the DVDs "Black Nail Series" or to paint my nails to shoot the video. I think that I will do the second one.
The idea is to introduce a series of DVDs, called TUC Miracles, at least 4 volumes:
1- Coin Acroos routines
2- Matrix routines
3- Coin penetrations
4- 3 fly routine
So, I will start with the "Coin across" volume next week.
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just an idea... if you want, you can upload just your coins across video to a website that requires people to enter a password in order to view the video. that way, you can get some feedback from the magic community and it will tide people over until the full dvd is released. and you can remove the video after a week or two.
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AdamChance
Loyal user
299 Posts
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Posted: Apr 4, 2012 2:55pm
Another idea I had was to do some routines with the TUC and an expanded shell. the metal 3 dvd by eric jones has some great effects that use a flipper and a shell that can also be done with a TUC and shell.
and will there be an okito box routine?
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Mr. Tango
Veteran user
Argentina
324 Posts
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Posted: Apr 5, 2012 10:59am
Yes, I forget a volume with TUC and other accessories, as Slippery shell, Expanded shell, Okito box, act.
Actually I perform a routine with a okito box. Good Idea
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shouksmiths
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York, England
109 Posts
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Posted: Apr 5, 2012 1:54pm
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On 2012-04-04 03:35, shouksmiths wrote:
Hi Mr Tango.Do you personally make all of your coins? Or due to the quantity needed is there a team of people who make them for you?
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Hi Mr Tango. Any thoughts on this this? Cheers. Mark
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J-Mac
Inner circle
Ridley Park, PA
3004 Posts
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Posted: Apr 6, 2012 12:52am
Tango Magic distributes a heck of a lot of gaffed coins world wide. I highly doubt that any one person is making all of their TUCs. My guess is that he either has a manufacturing plant where all his gaffs are made, and/or outsources some of the work to other facilities. I don’t see how one person could make all of the TUCs he offers. If Mr. Tango is indeed making all of them himself, it must be in between saving the world and visits to his Fortress of Solitude.  lol!
Jim
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shouksmiths
Regular user
York, England
109 Posts
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Posted: Apr 6, 2012 2:58am
Hi Jim. Daft question to ask ! I wasn't sure of the volumes they made. I know some other coins are made by individuals who have a good reputation. I wasn't sure if Tango coins fell into this category. It might explain why commented to me that the coins are sometimes of variable quality.
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shouksmiths
Regular user
York, England
109 Posts
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Posted: Apr 6, 2012 3:03am
Just to clarify in my last post I wasn't saying that TUCs are of variable quality.
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Mb217
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Posted: Apr 6, 2012 11:27am
Jmac is correct here, without me even checking with Mr. Tango...No way he can provide every coin ordered. Clearly he has a machine in place producing all this. Just common sense.
As to variable quality, well that can happen when many hands help make the soup. It also would explain why you get your orders relatively quicker than with other craftsman. A lot of those other guys are actually producing this stuff themselves, which can slow things down tremendously. In doing all the work themselves (sorta like a Todd Lassen seems to do) it obviously takes longer to produce which would also drive up prices. Think about it, Mr. Tango offers his gaffs at lower prices and you get them faster, but quality at times can be an issue because it's not just him making these things, he certainly doesn't make most of them. He wouldn't be able to keep up with the demand which would hurt sales and clearly his sales ain't hurtin'  So you see, it's all relative. What I wonder sometimes is what these craftsman think of one another. Well we know what Lassen thinks of Schoolcraft but wonder what they both think of Tango's TUC. Is it one of those, "Wish I had thought of that" or perhaps they don't think it's what all you think of it as to quality and workability. Hey, there's also Johnson Coins, which used to be middle of the road good quality stuff, still is IMHO. But they don't make all this new wave specialty stuff. Sure is an interesting business alright. Good luck to all. 
*Check out my latest Crimp Change - REDUX! and other fine magic at www.vinnymarini.com 
"Not much new under the sun I hear but under the moon, well who knows, that just might be a horse of a different color." -Mb
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bowers
Inner circle
3004 Posts
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Posted: Apr 6, 2012 1:10pm
I think mr tango has some sons that are
involved in his coin making process.
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funsway
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improbable magic & extraordinary acts
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Posted: Apr 6, 2012 7:01pm
Unless things have changed, just daughters not involved in the business, but a wife who watches things while he is away. Yes, he has a manufacturing facility as well as his Magic School/Nightclub -- is very picky about his employees and quality issues. He manufacture a lot of Chinese type coins as well as the gaffed ones. His "small, hands-on" approach to customer service is a matter of attitude and love for the art more than "size."
When he stayed with me for four days in Knoxville, TN we spend more time shopping for gifts for his familiy than discussing magic -- and he felt it important to spend time at our table with my aged parents. You can never underestimate his passion for living that seeps into his business; making magic simple, making it affordable and making it fun.
"there is real merit in the magician who tries to be creative – from such endeavors magic sustains its life energy." Harold Rice
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ropeadope
Elite user
Mississippi
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Posted: Apr 7, 2012 1:42am
Sounds like a dedicated man to business & family Funsway.
Thanks for the insight.
John
Nothing is better than more.
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shouksmiths
Regular user
York, England
109 Posts
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Posted: Apr 7, 2012 3:45am
Would that be Mr Tangos wife and some family members on his Gaff DVD?
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funsway
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improbable magic & extraordinary acts
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Posted: Apr 8, 2012 6:35pm
I just had an inspiration during Easter turkey feast. At the end of a 3Fly or other effect you can hardly pass the coins for examination or casually leave on the table, but can use a follow-up effect that Switches out the TUC. Consider this ---
You offer to allow a spectator to try the Trnasportation and place three silver coins visibly on his palm. His fist is closed, then his other hand. After appropriate magic words or gestures the second hand is opened -- Nope - no coin! The first hand is opened and the three coins spread. The center one is now copper or gold! Real magic -- just the wrong result. Congratulate the spectator on their "natural ability" as they examine the coins -- the TUC safely tucked away. The revelation that "magic is unpredictable" can segue into many other effects, and the "in my hand" memory priceless.
Any TUC can be used. PM me if you can't figure out what is being done.
"there is real merit in the magician who tries to be creative – from such endeavors magic sustains its life energy." Harold Rice
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Mr. Tango
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Argentina
324 Posts
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Posted: Apr 8, 2012 8:24pm
Hello friends.
I don't if it is so important to know that for everybody, but I will reply the questions about my enterprise and my family.
I was a mad coin magic man all my life, 20 years ago we started with a small magic schooll in Buenos Aires, Argentina and then with our magic bar "Bar Mágico", the only one in South American. In 2000 I started myself to make some samples of gaffed coins and in 2001 I took the first employee to help me. In 2002 when we did the first big sell to a distributer, we were working: my wife, an employee and myself working and I always remember going to the hospital with my wife when a drop of super glue jumped to her eyes.
Now, 12 years later we have 10 employes just dedicated to our factory and we invested a lot of money in the best machines, but I go every single day to my factory and I supervise personally all my products because the quality is our first objetive.
Besides we still have our "Bar Mágico" where I perform every Friday and Saturday night. We are proud to our bar, where we presents magic shows with the best Argentinean magicians in our stage saloon and our recently opened close up room.
If some of you come to Argentina, please contact me because I would be happy to invite you to my bar.
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Trooper11040
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Mount Joy, PA
660 Posts
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Posted: Apr 8, 2012 9:03pm
Sounds awesome...great story and history...maybe one day ill have to travel to check out Argentina!
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Mr. Tango
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Argentina
324 Posts
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Posted: Apr 9, 2012 5:41pm
Argentina has great magicians and very nice places to visit, I would like to organize a TUConclave here, but I don't now how many people could attend
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funsway
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Posted: Apr 9, 2012 6:53pm
Due to the response to my above mentioned effect, I have written it up as a PDF available to any TUC owner by writing to gusarimagic@comcast.net
ANY TUC can be used
"there is real merit in the magician who tries to be creative – from such endeavors magic sustains its life energy." Harold Rice
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Mr. Tango
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Argentina
324 Posts
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Posted: Apr 10, 2012 10:00pm
Great job Funsway
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Mr. Tango
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Argentina
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Posted: Apr 15, 2012 6:05pm
The post has 80.00 views, when we got 100.000 I will put my picture nude !
It was a joke, please continue enter here
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bwarren3
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Posted: Apr 16, 2012 7:53pm
Mr. Tango, I just met Gustavo Raley from Argentina and wow was I impressed. Great thinker...
Bill
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bowers
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Posted: Apr 22, 2012 8:31pm
I would love to get down there one day mr tango.
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ljsviol
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244 Posts
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Posted: Apr 23, 2012 7:00pm
Mr. Tango, forum folks,
I have a Walking Liberty TUC which works really well (round m****t). But I'm having a problem working with the shimmed card supplied with the TUC.
I'm working on the Matrix effects Mr. Tango shows in his DVD. For most of the effect, the TUC is apart, and the m**n*t*c s***l is allowed to 'stick' to the shimmed card as needed (for vanishes). With my TUC s***l free to cling to the shimmed card, if I lift the card from a horizontal to vertical position, my m**n*t*c s***l slides down to the bottom of the card, and sometimes falls off of its own weight.
At the end of the routine, you secretly assemble the TUC (s***l plus in***t) and lift it up 'stuck' to the shimmed card. Most of the time, my TUC simply drops off, even if the card is held horizontally; the TUC's own weight is too much for the m****t.
Does anyone else have this issue with a half dollar TUC(I know the dollar coins are not recommended for this use.)? The m**n*t seems strong on my TUC - I can stick it to the side of a file cabinet and it doesn't move - so I don't know if shimmed cards differ in their ability to hold a m**n*t, or what else it might be.
Any ideas are appreciated. I know I've talked about a lot of inner workings here; I hope it's not too much for folks.
Larry S.
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Mr. Tango
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Argentina
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Posted: Apr 24, 2012 11:27am
Larry
I just can say that you have to find the correct timming to perform this effect. I do that really slow in this way I have control of the coin and the card.
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ljsviol
Loyal user
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Posted: Apr 24, 2012 12:00pm
Mr. Tango,
Thanks for the advice. From watching carefully on your video, it seemed that some care is needed in handling; I can do that. -)
Thanks again!
Larry S.
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Mr. Tango
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Argentina
324 Posts
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Posted: Apr 25, 2012 7:03am
Just practice as everything in magic
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PaulW
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Posted: Apr 29, 2012 5:54am
I have just purchased the 2 Pound TUC and I have the same problem, however I try to steal the TUC it slides off the card, I have tried every possible way, practised and practised but the Mxgxt in my TUC is simply not strong enough to hold the combined coins on to the card......Is my TUC faulty?
Any help would be appreciated.
Paul W
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BanzaiMagic
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Posted: Apr 29, 2012 5:04pm
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On 2012-04-29 05:54, PaulW wrote:
I have just purchased the 2 Pound TUC and I have the same problem, however I try to steal the TUC it slides off the card, I have tried every possible way, practised and practised but the Mxgxt in my TUC is simply not strong enough to hold the combined coins on to the card......Is my TUC faulty?
Any help would be appreciated.
Paul W
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Posted: Feb 11, 2012 5:09pm
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On 2012-02-11 00:16, J-Mac wrote:
I think I know what he means, Banzai. I have an Ike TUC and it is also very loose - always has been. Loose enough that when you hold it up one edge hangs open. And if I were to hold it by the edges of the shell portion any overt move can cause the insert to fall out. When I use this TUC - which isn't very often - I have to handle it with great care. BTW, none of my half-dollar TUCs, C/S TUC, or quarter TUC are loose like that at all.
Jim
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I have 4 TUCs (1 Morgan, 3 non-silver gaffs) and NONE are like this. You definitely got a bad one, guys. Time for a shipment to Argentina.
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Then Mr. Tango posted the following:
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Mr. Tango Posted: Feb 13, 2012 4:37pm
No Banzai, you are wrong, every coin work different, I can say that half of my TUC are are very loose, everything depend how the coin get adjust by self. The important is that the coin work for the effect.
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According to what Mr. Tango wrote (and J-Mac, whose opinion I trust), there is some variation in the strength of the m****t on each coin.
Mr. Tango rightly states that there are methods to decrease the strength, by adding another layer of mouse tape, for example, but I don't know how you would adjust the strength upwards. In that case, I would probably pursue a return or repair.
Alan
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bowers
Inner circle
3004 Posts
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Posted: Apr 29, 2012 6:05pm
Maybe the problem isn't with the coin.
it could be the shiming of the card.
mine holds pretty good to the card
as long as I don't do it real quick.
todd
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inigmntoya
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Maryland
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Posted: Apr 29, 2012 7:37pm
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On 2012-04-29 17:04, BanzaiMagic wrote:
According to what Mr. Tango wrote (and J-Mac, whose opinion I trust), there is some variation in the strength of the m****t on each coin.
Mr. Tango rightly states that there are methods to decrease the strength, by adding another layer of mouse tape, for example, but I don't know how you would adjust the strength upwards. In that case, I would probably pursue a return or repair.
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The "adjustment" with the tape is generally for adjusting the coin itself, not with respect to the coin and a card, though it would have a similar effect when trying to use a card on one of the coin's sides. There is no way to "strengthen" the power of the m****t other than replacing it with a stronger one.
The suggestion of a trying different card is a good one -- one with more/thicker sh** material would allow the coin to stick better, though it may be less flexible or less "normal" appearing.
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Mr. Tango
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Argentina
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Posted: Apr 30, 2012 12:16am
Of course smaller coins are better for that effect as quarter dollar or 10 pence coins, but I didn't have problems to perform the matrix with half dollar coins
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