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Fred-Erik Johanson
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It is a great routine and about a year ago I even performed it, but then I totally forget about it. I have the routine somewhere, but I have forget how to tie the knot, so it "pops off".
Is there any simple solution I can learn it again?

Thanks,
Fred
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Maybe a surch for "Hunter bow knot" may help
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On pages 27-28-29 of the "Real Panama Rope Mystery" in the Mini-Mysteries section of my site, the pop-knot tie is explained and shown in step by step photos because it was originated by Ted Collins before it began to be used by Ed Mischell, Whit Haydn and others, and is an important part of the Panama Rope Mystery as well.

Note: It is NOT the same as the "Hunter Bow Knot," which is a slip knot, not a pop knot. The Hunter Bow Knot merely dissolves into nothing, while the pop knot flies off the rope on which it is tied.
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If you know the simple cut and restored rope trick and think for like 2 seconds you will know how to tie a pop knot. Good luck! I love the Mongolian Pop Knot and just recently have been using it in my shows for just about 3 weeks now!
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Yea I have some ideas to tie it, because I already have done it a while ago and because I do scarf thou neck in my show, but I experiment and I just don't remember where I learned it nor how to tie it.Smile

-Fred

PS! Spellbinder-I didn't understand thoroughly system on your site. I think I have found the item. If I purchase the item(what I believe was 5$) I pay the amount through paypal and you send me the booklet PDF(or other format) through download?

PPS: I already bought the booklet from your site.
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Basically, the short piece is "unlinked" from the longer rope as the knot is started, and then it is tied in a simple overhand knot around the fold of the longer rope.
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In other words
back & forth the same way as you went in & out
and then in & out the same way as you went back and forth

got it
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Fred: By now you should have the e-Book and the photos should explain it thoroughly. If not, you know where to find me!
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Quote:
On 2009-08-02 18:49, MrHyde wrote:
In other words
back & forth the same way as you went in & out
and then in & out the same way as you went back and forth

got it


That is it exactly.
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It's probably the best rope trick I have seen and do.
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Mr. Hyde/Whit,

You are both a couple of gems.

Dave
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Fred-Erik Johanson
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Ok Thanks

The book helped me a lot.
The knot was not difficult, but I just could (k)not remember how to tie it.
Thank you all for your help.

-Fred
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Is this rountine still available? If so does anyone know of a source?
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STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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Yes, it is available from me directly at whit@whithaydn.com , or from http://www.ScoundrelsStore.com

Here are some videos of the routine in performance, by me and then by two others:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUMOkWUM7yI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPfODIKk4CU&feature=autofb

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6JPn93GbpM&feature=autofb

Fred, I have emailed you a copy of the routine that you have misplaced.
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Thanks for the help.
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Yes, it is a good idea to keep your instructions on hand and in a safe place. This helps when you forget a lot of your material.

It is always a good idea, that if you put a trick away, to put it in a plastic self-sealing bag and include the instructions sheets or CD or DVD. That way everything is together. You will get to refresh your memory and bring back those feeling when you first enjoyed opening that package that came in the mail.
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Fred:

Did you receive the .pdf?
Fred-Erik Johanson
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Yes, I did.

Thank you very much.
The thread is quite old and I have found my copy of your book. But thanks anyway. Now I also have a copy on my computer.
Its really a great trick.

Thanks all,
Fred
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Whit, I bought your routine, used it on cruise ships and corp event, adjesting the patter as needed...I have to say, you may have come up with one of the "perfect", workers rope routines.
Thanks!
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