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Donald Dunphy Inner circle Victoria, BC, Canada 7565 Posts |
I also agree that it is bad form to give out your business cards or promotional materials at someone else's magic show. It's disrespectful, and slimy.
However, if the performer invites you to do so (which is an odd way to treat their relationship with this customer), then I suppose it would be ok. Still, I can't see that senario happening. - Donald P.S. To add something to a list, one more idea would be direct mail letters (not just postcards -- which was on the list) to promote shows. The letters can be just letters, or they can have brochures or flyers in them along with cover letters.
Donald Dunphy is a Victoria Magician, British Columbia, Canada.
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trickychaz Special user West Virginia 549 Posts |
I can agree that handing out business cards at someone else's show is disrespectful. My problem with his comment is that it has nothing to do with the purpose of the thread....obivously it's a personal experience that he has had with others during his bookings, however it has no place of mention here.
I know he wasn't speaking of me in particular, and my response about wv and ca was just a joke as well. |
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trickychaz Special user West Virginia 549 Posts |
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On 2009-12-25 08:18, renricker7 wrote: No, I do not hand out flyers at his shows. I perform in West Virginia and Ohio, and have never promoted during someone else's show. I do not even attend another magicians show unless they are close friends and I am there to help them. Yes, it is wrong doing to promote at others shows. Simply put I don't DO IT and never HAVE. |
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trickychaz Special user West Virginia 549 Posts |
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On 2009-12-24 20:05, jay leslie wrote: I can easlily understand how the first sentance is a joke, however the second part (you know who you are) really tipped it off as a serious remark. If he is having trouble with this happening at his shows....he should speak to the source directly. The comment has nothing to do with this topic. |
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jazzy snazzy Inner circle run off by a mob of Villagers wielding 2109 Posts |
Something you never see anymore is the publicity stunt in the store window.
There may be situations where this could still work, say for a grand opening. Hypnosis, escapes, headline prediction, whatever fits your style.
"The secret of life is to look good from a distance."
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trickychaz Special user West Virginia 549 Posts |
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On 2009-12-25 16:06, jazzy snazzy wrote: Absolutely! I have been reading 13 steps to mentalism, and plan to make something like this happen. Even a simple blindfold drive/walk would be within a reasonable budget. The biggest problem with stunts would be gaining permission to do such. Thanks for the idea Charles |
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Majestic12 Special user Maryland 643 Posts |
Don't forget to try and barter for things!
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CCPCris Loyal user Alabama 280 Posts |
Theres been once or twice I called to do a gig, and I acctuly gave them the number of another magician in town, because I was booked that time. I don't mind.
making the unreal, real...really!
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Ed_Millis Inner circle Yuma, AZ 2292 Posts |
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On 2009-12-25 10:39, Donald Dunphy wrote: Donald: You mention the relationship with the customer. I can't see this being discussed and settled ahead of time, so it may not be something the customer has already said "Don't do this." As a beginner in the magic business, I don't think I would have the moxie to hand out my cards to the crowd. But I could see a beginner putting flyers on the cars or setting a stack of flyers or cards on a table on the way out. I would also think it heavy duty favors to have the chosen performer introduce me to the buying customer. But I pick up that in your experience with customer relationships, a customer has expecations that are not necessarily laid out and they may not even know - but regardless these actions (introducing another magician to the customer or allowing their promo materials) might violate something in the customer's expectations of the relationship. Can you elaborate a bit? Ed |
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trickychaz Special user West Virginia 549 Posts |
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On 2009-12-26 18:38, Ed_Millis wrote: I think you are putting way to much thought into this. I once did a library show and 3 other magicians showed up. Handing out cards or introducing another perfomer to your librarian is a matter of personal opinion. You shouldn't waste your valuable time (and I mean this in good manner) on opinion wars..instead search for the FACTS...known and proven facts that will get you hired! Here is a tip! I visited your website link, and it has advertisments. Pay a few extra dollars/month for a hosting account that will be ad free...REason? You have no way of controlling the ads that pop up on your site, and the ad could be offensive or outlandish. Catch the Drift? Then again, after your personal PM....Why would you even listen to a guy that has lived off of magic for the past 7 months during this terrible economy. |
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trickychaz Special user West Virginia 549 Posts |
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Donald Dunphy Inner circle Victoria, BC, Canada 7565 Posts |
Hi Charles -
I was listening to a Jim Rohn audio program today, and he was talking about learning from others (through life, books, etc.) He talked about the idea that some people are examples of what TO DO, and some people are warnings of what NOT TO DO. I think you were looking for examples of what to do, but someone just chimed in with a warning of what not to do. That's all. Just another way to look at it. - Donald P.S. Another tip for the list - Find some ACTION to do every day that moves you forward. Not just activity, but action.
Donald Dunphy is a Victoria Magician, British Columbia, Canada.
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trickychaz Special user West Virginia 549 Posts |
Hey Donald,
You have cleared that up very nicely...thanks! Charles p.s. You are absolutely correct...I think it was Jim Snack that you should sit down and think up 30 action steps you can do over a period of 1 month and you would be surprised at the results! |
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