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Julie

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Posted: Jan 13, 2011 10:44pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Julie  

Just noticed a Sandwich Platter popped-up on the big auction site. I've always like that one. I guess that's because I recall Roydon's FANTASTIC with the cardboard squares and one card penetrating same.

Julie

Posted: Jan 15, 2011 3:43pm
Now there are TWO Sandwich Platters: one at $35 and one at $90.

Julie
Merc Man

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Posted: Jan 15, 2011 9:21pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Merc Man  

Somewhere tucked away in my garage I've got some tenyo effects from the 1970's. Most should be in their boxes as even when I was a kid, I looked after my stuff.

I can't remember their names but the effects are:

- A small blue money box with a drop bottom (for release) when shaken

- A flat-fold black oblong tube (and various designs on papers) that is a kind of change-tube

- A piece of perspex with holes in it's centre that is put into a green plastic frame, laced into it, then released

- A colour changing flower - think it goes from red to white?

- Some effect with chips and a couple of top hats - can't even remember what happened - did they transpose?

I remember my Dad buying them for me when I was about 14 (1978) from a guy that had a sweet shop (candy store) - but carried some tricks and jokes on the side.

I didn't let on at the time as I didn't want to hurt his feelings - but I was more interested in the books he gave me from the 1940's - Edward Victor, Farrelli, Louis Lamb, etc. He soon got to know shortly thereafter that pure sleight of hand was my first love!

I don't know what these are worth but if I'm sitting on a few quid, I might be tempted to finally getting around to clearing out my garage in the Spring!

Barry Allen

Mercedes-Benz W123 Series.........undoubtedly, Stuttgart's finest ever hour.
Killertweety

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Belgium (-Europe)
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Posted: Jan 16, 2011 6:37am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Killertweety  

I think the items you are mentioning could be:
- Litle savings box
- Dyeing Paper (or Astro Tube?)
- Sutekina Trick
- Color Changing Flower
- Mystery Of The High Hat

If you ever want to sell your Color Changing Flower and/or Dyeing papar (Or Astro Tube) don't hesitate to contact me

www.tenyo.be
Merc Man

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Posted: Jan 16, 2011 9:51am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Merc Man  

No probs mate - we are due to hire a skip around Easter and clear the garage out. My first love is my old 1978 Merc and she needs some TLC in readiness for next Winter - to leave her on the drive again covered in snow is a No-No.

To this end, I'll go through around 20 boxes of stuff that we still haven't opened since we moved 10 years ago. I'm sure that there's some magic stored away somewhere only I keep thinking to myself "haven't seen such and such for a while"! I've been after digging out my old set of rings for ages - but I look at the mess and give up before I start!

The aforementioned Tenyo items should still be there too - I actually packed these away when I first left my parents home in 1986 - so they may take some finding!

Just one thing - the trick you titled 'Sutekina' - I may be wrong, but I don't seem to remember that particular name? I could be wrong. I remember the principle was unbelievably simple but at the same time, so clever. It was a green frame, green/white base and I think the bar going across was red?

As I'm typing a few other Tenyo's come to mind.

- I had a Sandwich Platter (which I remember working out a better clean up for the last card) but hardly used as the cards were woeful

- 2 small pencils penetrating each other via a small gimmick with 4 holes at right angles (this I think was from the early 80's as I remember buying it in Hamleys)

- A silver/plastic case in a small vinyl wallet that prints business cards - I could never get this to work too well if I'm honest - the card used to get caught at the edge when I slid it open (must have got that from Davenports in the 90's)

- Atomic Vase - there you go, another NAME I remember woohooooo - loved that trick and had a good 'Magician's Assistant presentation for it

- Trio Cigarette (?) - cig catcher, card to matchbox and a cig pull

- A green case that you drop a coin into and it penetrates a match pushed through it's centre - this was one from above that my Dad got me from the sweet shop and I'd forgotten to put in the list above

- a Milk Glass that I never used as I didn't like the method of filling it up and I think you had sellotape over one of the air holes that you had to peel back during performance?

- A maroon (?) tube with two black flaps along the top - you put red dice in a little cage and slide it along the tube with a key chain - and it emerged white? Again, I remember getting this in Hamleys so it must have been in the early 80's?

Anyway, I'll let you know how the clear out progresses.

Barry Allen

Mercedes-Benz W123 Series.........undoubtedly, Stuttgart's finest ever hour.
Killertweety

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Posted: Jan 17, 2011 4:01am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Killertweety  

Well, the tricks in your second list probably are:
- Sandwich Platter indeed
- Crossroads (I'm actually also interested in this one)
- Tricky Business (I never had problems with my version)
- The Atomic Vase is actually called Water Suspension (if it's made by Tenyo that is)
- Trio Cigarette, that's the one
- Coin Through Match - there also is a red version I believe
- Milk Tumbler, still manufactured I think
- Tunnel Of Darkness

I like your posts, they make me feel I'm in a quiz hehe

Cheerz

www.tenyo.be
Merc Man

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Nuneaton, Warwickshire
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Posted: Jan 17, 2011 12:17pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Merc Man  

Glad you find the posts interesting!

The water suspension is def Tenyo - I remember it's stored in a yellow cardboard box. Where I got the term Atomic Vase from, God only knows!

Anyway, if I can find them, you'll have first pick - you obviously have a passion for Tenyo and that's nice to see. Any money won't be a silly amount as I know they'd be going to a good home. Moreover, anything they realise will be donated to my fave charity - Amnesty International.

Regards,

Barry

Barry Allen

Mercedes-Benz W123 Series.........undoubtedly, Stuttgart's finest ever hour.
J M Talbot

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Posted: Jan 17, 2011 2:33pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of J M Talbot  

Hi Barry:

What Killertweety doesn't want I would be interested in... might even trade you for a Scotty York lightbulb (joke!)

Cheers,

John
truthteller

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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 4:19am    Reply with quote   View Profile of truthteller  

Sutekina is a version of, if not exactly the same as, massey's ribbon fantastique.
Killertweety

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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 10:34am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Killertweety  

Interesting! Did Massey copy the Tenyo version, or was it the other way around ... ?
Unfortunately his version also comes with a plastic plate. I'd like to see a glass one as the plastic will have scratches after several times using it - or perhaps the plastic is better quality then the Tenyo version ... ?

www.tenyo.be
truthteller

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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 11:00am    Reply with quote   View Profile of truthteller  

Massey predates tenyo by decades. I don't know what you mean by plastic plate. I have an original Massey. I have seen the Tenyo version and am working on memory. The Massey I have has a clear piece of plexi like material through which the cord is apparently threaded. I don't see how it would scratch any more or less than the Tenyo piece.

Posted: Jan 22, 2011 11:03am
Sorry. I think I understand now. You could make one with glass but glass can scratch in transport, is much heavier than plexi, can break when dropped, and would most likely require a more substantial frame also adding to the weight. A reasonable sacrifice for something performed only in the home, but trooping it becomes less appealing.
magicHart

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Las Vegas, Nevada
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Posted: Feb 3, 2011 6:17pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of magicHart  

Wondering if anyone can give me some info on an item I found packed away in the garage
Tenyo Metal Matrimony.Listed in Tenyo's list as discontinued.

If anyone knows the price when it was released and approx value now, it would be very helpful.
Killertweety

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Posted: Feb 8, 2011 8:12am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Killertweety  

I think 50 - 60 EURO would be a good price now (release price would have been around 15 - 20 EURO I believe), but you could take a chance on Ebay and perhaps it will sell for (much) more

www.tenyo.be
rogueclown

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Posted: Jun 30, 2011 6:11pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of rogueclown  

I just received a Tenyo Bare Bones still sealed. What is the going rate for one? Looked everywhere but can't get a quote! Thanks for your time.
RC
Houdini103126

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Posted: Jul 1, 2011 4:35am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Houdini103126  

Quote:

On 2011-06-30 18:11, rogueclown wrote:
I just received a Tenyo Bare Bones still sealed. What is the going rate for one? Looked everywhere but can't get a quote! Thanks for your time.
RC



It would probably fetch about $60-$100 on eBay. The range is ridiculously broad because Tenyo magic closings on eBay are ridiculously inconsistent. I saw a Mystery of the High Hat OPENED go for $280ish and then one SEALED go for under $50. Med_Doc can share his stories with you about this, it's really wild. There's really no rhyme or reason to it other than if something rare hasn't been up for a while and there is nothing up to compete with it, and the ad is solid, then we tend to see ridiculously high closings.

PM me if you want to sell it, I'd be interested in this sealed (I have one opened for performance).
Nicolino

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Posted: Jul 1, 2011 5:33am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Nicolino  

Tom, will you PM me...?

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charlies_hat

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Posted: Jan 6, 2012 12:17pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of charlies_hat  

I have an original boxed Space Walking Coins if anyone is interested in buying, please PM !
Richard Kaufman

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Posted: Jan 6, 2012 8:56pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Richard Kaufman  

Some guy is trying to sell the most recent Tenyo magic set for $399 on eBay and claims it's no longer being produced:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-2008-Tenyo-Magic-World-Magic-Set-New-box-and-never-opened-/190624593737?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c621c7749
Not true! I saw them in department stores a few months ago when in Japan. It's a great set, by the way, and every Tenyo collector should have one.
rhettbryson

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Greenville, SC
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Posted: Jan 6, 2012 10:35pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of rhettbryson  

It would be hard to discuss rare, hard to find and valuable Tenyo items without mentioning the Paddle Collection, Brass coin box collection and the Brass Close up Kit!

Rhett Bryson
http://eweb.furman.edu/%7Erbryson/magic.html
Killertweety

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Posted: Jan 10, 2012 5:12pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Killertweety  

Haha indeed Richard - not so long ago Magico Japan sold it and I'm sure if you ask her she would still be able to get it The only thing that kept me from buying it is the fact I think (!) I already own most of the tricks (although they do not seem like the regular versions of their tricks and some tricks look like nothing Tenyo has ever produced in their T-line) and the instructions are in Japanese. But the listing made me think it's perhaps a nice investment for the future
Do you perhaps own (or have seen/opened) this set and can you tell us something more about it?

And indeed Rhett, the brass versions of the tricks are extremely rare and therefore very valuable! From the people I know only Angelo Carbone owns them.

www.tenyo.be
meridianfan

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Posted: May 18, 2012 6:55am    Reply with quote   View Profile of meridianfan  

Recently "The haunting" sold for $520.00 on US Ebay. Not including the Ultra tube that sold for more, are there any other record sale prices on auction sites for Tenyo items?
Richard Kaufman

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Posted: May 18, 2012 11:26am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Richard Kaufman  

And the brass coin box collection comes in two styles: American coins or Japanese coins. The boxes are different colors. I used to have them and gave photos to Angelo, which are on his website.
Angelo Carbone

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Posted: May 18, 2012 11:41am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Angelo Carbone  

Quote:

On 2012-01-10 17:12, Killertweety wrote:
Haha indeed Richard - not so long ago Magico Japan sold it and I'm sure if you ask her she would still be able to get it The only thing that kept me from buying it is the fact I think (!) I already own most of the tricks (although they do not seem like the regular versions of their tricks and some tricks look like nothing Tenyo has ever produced in their T-line) and the instructions are in Japanese. But the listing made me think it's perhaps a nice investment for the future
Do you perhaps own (or have seen/opened) this set and can you tell us something more about it?

And indeed Rhett, the brass versions of the tricks are extremely rare and therefore very valuable! From the people I know only Angelo Carbone owns them.



I don't own the brass boxes.
Richard Kaufman

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Posted: May 20, 2012 12:15pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Richard Kaufman  

The Tenyo World of Magic set is great. It has many "plussed" versions of tricks you may already know, but done in the special Tenyo style. And it has tricks they've never put out before, plus an enormous instruction book and DVD. Between the DVD performances and drawings in the instruction book, it's all pretty easy to figure out.
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