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howiedidit

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Posted: Jan 27, 2010 10:25pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of howiedidit  

Does anyone know of footage of Senator Clarke Crandall other than on the Magic Ranch DVD set? I'm trying to find any video or articles about this amazing performer.
markmiller

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Posted: Jan 28, 2010 12:04am    Reply with quote   View Profile of markmiller  

Don't know about video but he used to write a monthly article in Tops Magazine.
Rick Fisher

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Posted: Jan 28, 2010 8:06am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Rick Fisher  

I have some old movie footage and a friend of mine has audio tape as well. I remember him running me out of his XXX lecture when I was a kid What a character !

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magicgettogether

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Posted: Jan 30, 2010 12:53pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of magicgettogether  

Heres one of his articles from Tops

http://magicgettogether.com/classictops/senator.html

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Posted: Jan 30, 2010 1:01pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of magicgettogether  

Forgot to mention Abbotts sells his book as part of a comedy book pkg at their Ebay store

http://stores.ebay.com/Abbotts-Magic-House-of-Tricks

I never read the book but remember it because it has a very crisp picture on the front of Clarke Crandall, but on the back was the same picture upside down and blurry. The idea was to have someone over with the good picture up, give him a couple drinks, then flip the book over to the blurry side.

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Rick Fisher

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Posted: Jan 30, 2010 7:17pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Rick Fisher  

The pic Chuck is referring to was taken by Jerry Conklin...he used to be a photographer as well as globe trotting magician.

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SHOC

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Posted: Jan 31, 2010 6:38pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of SHOC  

I was wondering if anyone can tell me which volume of Don Alan's Magic Ranch DVDs that Senator Crandall performs six bill repeat?
Rick Fisher

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Posted: Jan 31, 2010 9:13pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Rick Fisher  

Hi I think it's six card repeat...

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SHOC

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Posted: Jan 31, 2010 9:36pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of SHOC  

Rick thanks for the reply. You may well be right. I know he did his one hand six card repeat. Someone told me he was on the Magic Ranch performing a six bill repeat. I'm thinking they may have it confused.

Cheers.
Rick Fisher

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Posted: Jan 31, 2010 9:40pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Rick Fisher  

Yes, have seen the video..it is fun to watch and it is the 6 card repeat.

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magicgettogether

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Posted: Feb 2, 2010 7:18pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of magicgettogether  

Heres that picture I mentioned (link at bottom of post). I actually started reading the book which is a compilation of articles he wrote and it certainly wasn't what I expected. The publishing date is 1969 however I can see why people would want to see him perform. Heres a couple excerpts from the first couple pages (which will give you an idea of his style)

Q Were you born in this country
A No, I was born in Carleton Nebraska

Q When did you first become interest in magic?
A When I was eight years old I discovered I could disappear at the first sign of work...

Q What is your opinion of womans place in magic today?
A There is none, A woman's place is in the home, she should stay there, wash the doves, feed the rabbits, press the silks...

Q What is your opinion of Jay Marshall, Bob Lewis, Karrell fox, and Duke Stern?
A Who?

I'll finish reading the book tonight, a little over 100 pages.

I also added the book to http://www.abbottmagic.com and knocked off 1/2 the catalog price (10 to 5) for those researching the man.

Click here to view attached image.

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Rick Fisher

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Posted: Feb 3, 2010 9:11am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Rick Fisher  

I agree with Chuck..it is a fine read. Crandall always had a way with words - there was a "feud" between him and George Johnstone that was 'fabricated' but sure got us reading the columns! George was also an eloquent writer and unfortunately I haven't seen anyone since who could write as well as these two fellows.

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magicgettogether

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Posted: Feb 3, 2010 7:05pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of magicgettogether  

Greg said the same thing, that he was really a great guy and very nice, the crusty exterior was an act.

About 3/4 through the book he is diagnosed with a brain tumor, his son who was stationed in Vietnam was sent home due to the serious nature of the illness. Here's Crandalls take on the situation.

"As I lay strapped to a padded hospital table waiting for Dr. Baron to plug in his educated skull-saw I was afraid I might die before I could share my magic secrets with the world. Suddenly I realized I didn't have any magic secrets...Its a sinking sensation."

Excellent writer, even something as terrible as a malignant brain tumor was no match for him.

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Rick Fisher

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Posted: Feb 4, 2010 9:51am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Rick Fisher  

That is what made him unique. He later worked at the Magic Castle. When Donald 'Monk' Watson was in the hospital dying Clarke made a very unusual recording and sent to Monk. They were best of friends. Clarke acted as a roving reporter in a nursing home asking residents if they ever heard of Monk. Funny stuff...he never actually went to the nursing home- he just used different voices and different stories. The tape is a real gem..maybe we will release some day.

We need magic characters like this today

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msmaster

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Posted: Feb 4, 2010 12:57pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of msmaster  

Crandall used to carry a pocket watch in his pants, but not his pocket. When a nice old lady would ask the time, he would pull down his zipper reach in and take out the watch connected to a long chain and tell them.
magicgettogether

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Posted: Feb 4, 2010 5:21pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of magicgettogether  

On Monk Watson...

"...Don't preach to me about the good old days, they stunk and you know it....So you killed them in Detroit from 1926 to 1931. Big Deal..."

I think he would do well in this century, armed with all online media that we have today, the present world of magic would provide him much fodder.

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Rick Fisher

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Posted: Feb 4, 2010 8:53pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Rick Fisher  

Monk always said "Detroit claimed I came from Jackson and Jackson claimed I came from Detroit"

I met Monk back in the early 70's - he was a nice guy but I wasn't quite sure about him

Now that I am older and have come to know Monk's story through Bill, his son, I have such a great admiration and respect for this man - 5000 performances at the Grand Rivera Theater in Detroit - 5000 - count 'em 5000 - folks like Monk and Dorny and of course Crandall- were charismatic personalities who understood their role as entertainers. We could learn so much from them - they endured the tough times too..depression,two world wars,etc.. and yet they survived and thrived. They didn't complain because business was slow..they went out and made their business and found a way to make it.

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magicgettogether

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Posted: Feb 5, 2010 5:55pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of magicgettogether  

I'll tell you Rick its been a long time since I laughed out loud reading a book. One of his columns (aptly titled "criticism should be a reward") was the funniest thing I ever read anywhere.

Not much magic (which would probably slow down the pace of the book). Where other books would describe an egg bag routine, Crandall tells his woe's of trying to buy one egg when they only come in dozen packs (and what he does with the extras).

Most of what he talks about still applies today, he mentions never calling a magic trick by its name in front of an audience and recently there was a post here at the Café about just that.

As Crandall puts it, "A layman thinks a Foo Can is a Chinese washroom".

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Rick Fisher

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Posted: Feb 5, 2010 6:17pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Rick Fisher  

It's a good book but it's difficult to get younger readers to read it especially with no tricks explained but us old farts 'get it'

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magicgettogether

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Posted: Feb 5, 2010 7:08pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of magicgettogether  

Very true, another thing is you have to have a little background of magic and magicians to understand the humor so many of the youtube crowd will be disappointed.

However anyone who ever attended a magic convention, or a magic lecture, or joined a magic club (even today) should get a kick out his writings. The politics of magic seems to be Crandall at his funniest.

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Glenn Godsey

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Posted: Feb 6, 2010 1:37am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Glenn Godsey  

Clarke Crandall was a genius, especially a verbal genius. You are correct that he had a warm heart under his crusty act.

At a small convention sometime in the 1960's or 70's, my girlfriend and I were sitting at a table between activities when Crandall walked up and joined us. He talked and entertained us for two hours, teaching me dice stacking and keeping us in stitches with an avalanche of witty talk. He also talked about his personal problems and aspirations as if we were his closest friends.

It was a once-in-a-lifetime experience and I'll never forget him.

Best regards,
Glenn Godsey
magicgettogether

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Posted: Feb 6, 2010 9:37pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of magicgettogether  

Great story and I don't think you are alone in fond memories of Clarke Crandall, the people at Abbotts thought so much of him that their Comedy Award to this day is called the "Senator Crandall Award For Comedy". The last 3 winners at the annual Get Together were (if I remember right) Oscar Munoz, Tom Burgoon, and Stephen Bargatze so the Senator is still in good company.

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magicgettogether

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Posted: Feb 11, 2010 9:06pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of magicgettogether  

Valentines Day, 2010, the place to be will be http://topsmag.com as "The Senator" returns to Tops Magazine for the first time in about 35 years.

Apologies in advance to Hubert and anyone else this article offends.

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Posted: Feb 11, 2010 11:15pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Bill Palmer  

Actually, there are a couple of tricks explained in that book. The real work on the Hummer Whirlaway card is in there. Not all of it, but the crucial part that made it work for Bob Hummer.

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Posted: Feb 12, 2010 5:50am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Leslie Melville  

Quote:

On 2010-02-05 18:17, Rick Fisher wrote:
It's a good book but it's difficult to get younger readers to read it especially with no tricks explained but us old farts 'get it'



It's difficult to get younger magicians to read anything! If it isn't on DVD, they're not interested! - Very sad.

On topic, I used to buy New Tops only for the Crandall and George Johnstone columns. Eric 'Nitwit' Williams used to write funny but insightful material in Abracadabra.
Unfortunately no one seems to write like that any more.

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magicgettogether

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Posted: Feb 12, 2010 3:08pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of magicgettogether  

When I first started receiving New Tops the Senator had already passed away.

I remember my New Tops reading routine well, always going to Sid Lorraines's article first because he did reviews of things I could afford, then David Seebach's article because he talked about things I could not afford.

As said earlier, I only remembered the Senators book because of the blurred cover on a youtube blurb we did promoting his book a while back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLWy-bWyl58

Heres a very funny Crandall story also on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf_de-8_ClQ

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Jon Bright

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Posted: Jul 26, 2010 5:49am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Jon Bright  

Sen. Crandall is also on the Mystic Craig dvd set.
mumford

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Posted: Jul 30, 2010 10:33pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of mumford  

Crandall also dispensed a series of salty one-liners in the 70's Talisman newsletter.
Julie

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Posted: Jul 31, 2010 2:19am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Julie  

Wasn't there a series of little pink(?) booklets by Crandall, too?

Julie
Jim Sparx

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Posted: Feb 25, 2012 5:36pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Jim Sparx  

Crandall came to a New Orleans IBM-SAM convention in the early sixties with his version of Gwendolyn. His presentation was a riot. I recently came across the duck trick in a 1950s Kanter catalog. Did not realize it was that old.

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