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wulfiesmith
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Beverley, UK
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Posted: Apr 15, 2010 2:57pm
For the new performer of this routine ... which is the best product?
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Anatole
Special user
927 Posts
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Posted: Apr 15, 2010 4:55pm
The Creekmore dancing cane is generally considered the best if you can find one. It comes in classic black with white cap and also wood grain finish with a variety of caps. The balance is perfect; the cane is light-weight balsa.
I also like to use the Fantasio vanishing cane as a dancing cane. Fantasio makes a gimmick for adapting the standard Fantasio vanishing cane into a dancing cane.
----- Amado "Sonny" Narvaez
----- Sonny Narvaez
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tropicalillusions
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Tulsa Okla
566 Posts
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Posted: Apr 15, 2010 8:34pm
Creekmoore, I enjoy it the most, but when you get into some kick and flip moves, it puts a strain on the balsa. I have found a metal cane, an old Abbots, and use rod winding thread for string durability to do these moves that put a strain on the string and cane. You have to be very careful with the ole, Creekmoore. I sat mine down once, sat on it and hear a horrible snap. Man did I feel Bad; had to order another one.
Chris Moss,
www.tropicalillusions.org
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHkKCSVsPH4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub83S8VASD8
http://www.youtube.com/user/tropicalillusions
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wulfiesmith
Special user
Beverley, UK
566 Posts
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Posted: Apr 16, 2010 1:47pm
Thanks for the input guys ... much appreciated!
Posted: Apr 18, 2010 8:19am
I understand there is a version of the dancing cane, utilising a flourescent cane ...
anyone have this item?
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Bill Hegbli
Eternal Order
Bill and Bill in Fort Wayne Indiana
12868 Posts
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Posted: Apr 18, 2010 9:08am
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On 2010-04-18 08:19, wulfiesmith wrote:
I understand there is a version of the dancing cane, utilising a fluorescent cane ...
anyone have this item?
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The idea for magic is to use objects that people are familiar with and work miracles with so as to entertain them. Thus for best response use items the audience will recognize. I do not know of a fluorescent can being advertised, but there may be one someplace, you did not give a reference site for use to know what you are speaking of in these terms. If you seen it on YouTube, it is probably not available.
If it is a normal looking cane that glows in the dark, then it is only painted with fluorescent paint which anyone can do with the paint products on the market. If you know how fluorescent works, you will then know you need control of all the stage and house lights in a theater to use this feature. If you perform in venues that you can control all the lighting, then you will get some good responses from the audience when you lower the lights.
If the cane does not look like a walking stick, then I would say it is just a thing moving around under your control. Will it be entertaining, only your skill, practice and reason for using it will help in this answer.
I have seen some fabulous Dancing Cane performances, and it had nothing to do with the Cane, it was the performer and his work.
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Anatole
Special user
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Posted: Apr 18, 2010 4:03pm
I posted this link I think previously. It shows a routine with a dancing fluorescent light:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWZSnBqogZ0
I would hesitate myself to perform the trick. If the light hits something on stage (a table or magic prop) there might be danger of the tube breaking, releasing the gas inside.
There have been floating incandescent light bulbs on the market that might make more sense than a floating fluorescent light. I think Marvyn Roy also did a floating light bulb a la zombie.
You might also be interested in this link that apparently shows a genuine floating light bulb:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2-8G4oWzFs&NR=1
----- Amado "Sonny" Narvaez
----- Sonny Narvaez
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Fantasy Knight
Loyal user
Toronto,Ontario,Canada
242 Posts
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Posted: May 5, 2010 10:18pm
This is what you want,, Revolution DVD - Jeff McBride this I think puts the icing on the cake for the dancing cane. Thanks again JEFF!
Rick Anderson
Grew up near one of the greatest minds in magic the late Stewart James, in a town called Wallaceburg just 15 mins from Courtright where James could be found, time and time again he would inspire me to always be creative and just love all magic.
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DJ Trix
Special user
953 Posts
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Posted: May 6, 2010 12:32am
I will sell my Creekmore cane if you're interested.
Generally, it has never been used. The condition is near perfect, I can look it over to see if there are any scratches, but I think it has retained its original beauty.
PM me if interested.
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Red Neck Magician
Regular user
Down Yonder
135 Posts
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Posted: May 7, 2010 3:18pm
I don't know if they are still available but I use a cane from precision magic. I would recommend one to anybody. Haven't had any problems with the cane.
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Devereaux
New user
Las Vegas
19 Posts
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Posted: Aug 6, 2010 4:07pm
Perhaps someone could tell me who made the cane that I use-- I purchased 20 years ago from a magic shop, but it did not have any packaging.
Metal cane with steel/nickle tips. Both ends unscrew and the cane itself can unscrew in the middle (much like a billiard cue). It is probably heavier than most would want in a cane, but I have not found anything better. Anyone know where this might have come from?
BTW, although the Lossander cane is much too light for I do, I love the retractable gimmic.
www.devereauxrising.com (there is a brief clip of the cane on the video page (promo demo)).
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Levent
Special user
USA
793 Posts
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Posted: Aug 6, 2010 4:30pm
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On 2010-08-06 16:07, Devereaux wrote:
Perhaps someone could tell me who made the cane that I use-- I purchased 20 years ago from a magic shop, but it did not have any packaging.
Metal cane with steel/nickle tips. Both ends unscrew and the cane itself can unscrew in the middle (much like a billiard cue). It is probably heavier than most would want in a cane, but I have not found anything better. Anyone know where this might have come from?
BTW, although the Lossander cane is much too light for I do, I love the retractable gimmic.
http://www.devereauxrising.com (there is a brief clip of the cane on the video page (promo demo)).
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I used a similar cane that I bought in the early 1980s. It is exactly as you described except the body of the cane was made of aluminum. My cane was made by Jan's Magic Manufacturing of Hialeah, Florida.
Best regards,
Levent
www.LeventMagic.com
www.MagicQandA.com
Levent
www.LeventMagic.com
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Anatole
Special user
927 Posts
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Posted: Aug 6, 2010 6:35pm
There was a dancing cane sold in the mid-60's--as far as I know, the only dancing cane I can remember from those days--that was a two-piece plastic cane. The knob was made of wood. The lower half of the cane had a wooden peg with a slot in it. This lower half would be inserted into the top half to complete the cane. I've always been curious about who manufactured and distributed that cane. Does this cane sound familiar to anyone?
I remember Mike Rogers told me he used to make his own balsa wood cane. He'd take a balsa stick with rectangular faces and whittle it into a round shape.
Tannens once sold a balsa wood cane (probably imported; this was probably in the 1970's) that was totally unbalanced. I found a white, plastic table leg cap (similar to the caps used with Fantasio vanishing canes) and attached it to the top of the Tannen cane. (I had to paint the white "cap" of the cane black, because the table leg cap didn't quite cover the painted-on cap. Once I added that plastic cap, the balance was perfect.)
Then there was the so-called "ultimate dancing cane" that was made of cardboard with a diameter roughly equal to the diameter of those primary grade pencils kids use in kindergarten and first grade.
---- Amado "Sonny" Narvaez
----- Sonny Narvaez
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umagic
New user
4 Posts
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Posted: Aug 6, 2010 8:40pm
Hi I am a French magician
I ll will make a dvd soon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsA3L39Kc3Q
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Devereaux
New user
Las Vegas
19 Posts
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Posted: Aug 7, 2010 12:05pm
Levent-
You may be on to something- I purchased my cane in 1986. The shaft of the cane is aluminum. A quick google search did not yield anything on the company you mentioned. Do you know if they are still around? Not sure why I am obsessed with finding the manufacturer- must be on my magic "bucket-list".
I attached a picture of the cane if that helps.
www.devereauxrising.com
Click here to view attached image.
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Fábio DeRose
Inner circle
San Paolo, Brasile
1419 Posts
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Posted: Aug 7, 2010 7:51pm
Does anyone know of a trustable source for Precision Magic Canes? David Mann is nowhere to be found, sadly.
Fábio De'Rose - Ilusionista
www.ENIGMAGICO.com.br
Twitter @Enigmagico
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Oliver Ross
Inner circle
Europe
1460 Posts
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Posted: Aug 7, 2010 7:57pm
Fabio,
If I'm right, David Mann has gone out of business.
Oliver.
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Bill Hegbli
Eternal Order
Bill and Bill in Fort Wayne Indiana
12868 Posts
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Posted: Aug 7, 2010 8:58pm
Anatole,
I have a Tannen/Unique Magic studio Danceing Cane made out of balsa wood and mine is made correctly. I have checked all the suggested balance points and it meets the requirements.
I think it is near perfect piece of equipment for the Dancing Cane routine. Just wish I could master the thing. And yes, I have rythem. 
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Levent
Special user
USA
793 Posts
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Posted: Aug 9, 2010 11:27am
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On 2010-08-07 12:05, Devereaux wrote:
Levent-
You may be on to something- I purchased my cane in 1986. The shaft of the cane is aluminum. A quick google search did not yield anything on the company you mentioned. Do you know if they are still around? Not sure why I am obsessed with finding the manufacturer- must be on my magic "bucket-list".
I attached a picture of the cane if that helps.
http://www.devereauxrising.com
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If I could see a close up picture of the knob and tip and a close up of the threaded center section, I could tell you if it matched mine.
Also, I'm pretty sure that company disappeared long ago.
Best regards,
Levent
http://www.LeventMagic.com
http://www.MagicQandA.com
Levent
www.LeventMagic.com
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ferrismagic
New user
94 Posts
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Posted: Aug 9, 2010 3:48pm
Just in case anyone`s interested in the flourescent cane,
Don`t have it myself but I think you can get it here,
Think it`s like $500
http://www.wretch.cc/blog/jeffleemagic/15999755
Mentalist Singapore
http://www.ferrisyao.com
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Bill Hegbli
Eternal Order
Bill and Bill in Fort Wayne Indiana
12868 Posts
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Posted: Aug 9, 2010 3:57pm
I think a really good Dancing Cane is the Fantasio. Works great and easy to carry.
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miraclesawait
New user
61 Posts
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Posted: Aug 10, 2010 9:38pm
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On 2010-05-05 22:18, Fantasy Knight wrote:
This is what you want,, Revolution DVD - Jeff McBride this I think puts the icing on the cake for the dancing cane. Thanks again JEFF!
Rick Anderson
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I spoke to Jeff McBride when he was in town here and was talking about my dancing cane routine. He told me to get the DVD and mentioned he showed how to make the canes he uses. I don't no if I miss heard him but dose it come with the canes or show how to make them or is it just a general teaching video
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Bill Hegbli
Eternal Order
Bill and Bill in Fort Wayne Indiana
12868 Posts
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Posted: Aug 10, 2010 9:50pm
Here is the listing of what is on the DVD and I do not see how to make a vortex cane.
http://www.yourmagic.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=176
I don't think it is possible make the Vortex yourself.
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Justin M. Monehen
New user
UK
49 Posts
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Posted: Aug 11, 2010 4:57pm
Been going round in circles most of the day - trying to figure out which dancing cane to buy. Lots of good info online - but...
Creekmore version (highly praised and used by Copperifled) - no longer available.
Precision version (also highly praised) - no longer available.
I don't really want to buy the 'next best thing' (would rather the best) - but can anyone point me in the direction of a good, well balanced, dependable, good looking, dancing cane? (oh and I don't really want to spend silly money on one - I'm not after a collector's piece I want a working prop).
Thanks for all your help - this forum as always is fantastic!
http://www.monehen.com
http://www.heypresto.com
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Anatole
Special user
927 Posts
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Posted: Aug 11, 2010 7:40pm
In the list of what's on the Revolution DVD listed at
http://www.yourmagic.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=176
the third bulleted item is:
Cane fabrication and modification
which I take to mean how to make and modify the cane.
----- Amado "Sonny" Narvaez
----- Sonny Narvaez
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Bill Hegbli
Eternal Order
Bill and Bill in Fort Wayne Indiana
12868 Posts
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Posted: Aug 11, 2010 11:22pm
Such fancy words, Cane Fabrication and modification, not used much in magic discriptions. You may be right! Fabrication may be a process not possible for the home builder.
Wish someone who has the video would comment. Does it tell if the average home builder cane make the cane at home?
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Fábio DeRose
Inner circle
San Paolo, Brasile
1419 Posts
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Posted: Aug 13, 2010 8:29pm
I have both Jeff's Canes and DVD. THey are more than worth the price! Jeff's advice is masterful, and definitely boosts creativity and forward-thinking on how to perform the Dancing Canes.
Fábio De'Rose - Ilusionista
www.ENIGMAGICO.com.br
Twitter @Enigmagico
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Devereaux
New user
Las Vegas
19 Posts
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Posted: Aug 15, 2010 11:21am
Levent-
Attached is a picture of the head of the cane (albeit out of focus due to the camera on the phone). But should give you a better idea what it looks like.
Any thoughts?
www.devereauxrising.com
Click here to view attached image.
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Levent
Special user
USA
793 Posts
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Posted: Aug 15, 2010 2:45pm
That is not the same knob as on my cane. But it might be a later model of the Jan's cane or a copy from another maker?
Levent
www.LeventMagic.com
www.MagicQandA.com
Levent
www.LeventMagic.com
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Jim Grathoff
New user
18 Posts
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Posted: Nov 11, 2010 9:44am
I use the David Mann dancing cane.. I like it a lot,, I have a New Dancing cane 101 DVD and the dancing cane still in the packaging I bought as a back up
but I don't need it if anyone is interested..
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kosmoshiva
Loyal user
Canada
255 Posts
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Posted: Nov 12, 2010 11:23am
I use a German manufactured balsa cane that Alan Alan sold me way back in the seventies. It has a slight curve to it that enables it to hover quite slowly and deceptively away from the hands.
Don't forget to breathe.
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