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stoneunhinged
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Posted: Apr 7, 2011 12:13pm
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On 2011-04-07 10:32, AMcD wrote:
I'm afraid we have bored people with all our arguments :-(.
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Sure does kind of make you wonder, innit?
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AMcD
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Posted: Apr 7, 2011 12:31pm
You're right Jeff, I'm part of it. I apologized about that. I hope you don't think I'm the only responsible; I've done my best to avoid many fights. The trouble is that I have my own opinions and I consider myself as a free mind, plus a tough nature. But as I wrote, it doesn't matter anymore. As you may have noticed, I only answer to questions and provide material now. Enjoy it if you like it, it won't last long.
Cordially.
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Enzo
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Posted: Apr 7, 2011 12:36pm
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This place is really weird lol. In the past I posted very basic stuff or poor quality videos and I had 4,000 or 5,000 downloads each time, for every video. Now it takes one week to get 100 downloads. I'm afraid we have bored people with all our arguments :-(
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Isn't that a good thing though? Hey, those endless fights are good for something after all!
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AMcD
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Posted: Apr 7, 2011 12:48pm
Well, personally, I would have preferred talking about gambling only. History, cheating techniques, books, paraphernalia... From all origins and cultures. From any experience. Road hustler, enthusiast, pro, semi-pro, advanced player, collector, professional dealer, etc. I'm sure it's still possible.
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Kirjava
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Posted: Apr 7, 2011 12:56pm
Well Arnold, from an enthusiast point of view, thank you for providing an insight into this legendary technique 
My attempts to replicate the n-strippers have not succeeded yet, but you keep me excited about it.
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stoneunhinged
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Posted: Apr 7, 2011 1:14pm
Arnold, don't get me wrong. I wasn't saying that you personally are to blame for the exodus.
Just the opposite: I think that you and I are just about the only ones left. From the old guard, I mean. Now it's just youngsters and noobs.
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AMcD
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Posted: Apr 7, 2011 2:28pm
Don't know.
Of course, the endless arguments here have caused some people to leave. But in another hand, things have evolved for the last years too. There are many places available to talk about Magic or Cheating, not only Genii and the Magic Café. Not to mention the explosion of P2P. I mean, legal or illegal, because huge broadbands now, people download a lot. They have a lot of information available. They need less places like this I suppose.
Prices have gone down too. I've purchased many DVD (from memory, Turner, Ortiz, etc.) for just a few bucks! Amazon, auctions websites etc. allow fantastic bargains.
Many sources too. The great collection from Jason England for instance. Once you have it, you have work for the next 15 years. Thus, why coming here asking for some information (that not many will give!) when $30 or $50 will be enough?
A lot of youngsters, yes. But they are really motivated. They don't realize how lucky they are to live in 2011. It took me years to get some good information about the second deal for instance (not to mention stuff like n-strippers or beanshoohters...). Today, you spend $35 or you just have a Skype session with someone...
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The Dowser
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Posted: Apr 7, 2011 2:28pm
Idealistic, obsequious, sycophantic Mai-Ling kisser-upper says "what?".
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AMcD
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Posted: Apr 7, 2011 3:45pm
Kirjava,
Yes, it's a personal insight. I'm not fortunate enough for having met someone using it for real (albeit, once, I wonder if, lol). Information is pretty scarce, sometimes unreliable or even doubtful (I'm thinking about one famous Magician for instance). Through the years I have gathered maybe a dozen of documents providing some interesting information? And just a few videos. I think everyone has its own variant or application.
It's not an easy matter. I'm sure I would be unable to pull-out a n-stripped card out of Mr. Turner's deck for instance. He has his own sense of touch (and he is a top notch guy!). Same with Doc's deck. Just to illustrate, I pull them out from the top, some from the bottom.
I don't have an acceptable solution for multiple n-strippers though. I'm still working on a good solution for plastic cards for instance.
Not easy I said :-(.
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stoneunhinged
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Posted: Apr 7, 2011 4:27pm
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On 2011-04-07 14:28, The Dowser wrote:
Idealistic, obsequious, sycophantic Mai-Ling kisser-upper says "what?".
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An idealistic, obsequious, sycophantic Mai-Ling kisser-upper....
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popcalinda
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Posted: Apr 7, 2011 4:41pm
Respect!
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stoneunhinged
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Posted: Apr 7, 2011 4:54pm
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On 2011-04-07 16:41, popcalinda wrote:
Respect!
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Danke!
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popcalinda
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Posted: Apr 7, 2011 4:59pm
As always!
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slim23
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Posted: Apr 7, 2011 9:05pm
AMcD,
My bad! I forgot the goal was to make them during play. Good reason to mark only one side.I understand the reasons and must say they convinced me. Good idea practising the touch for the Ns. Personnally, I'm still practising and still seeing improvement.
In your video, just before the multiple cuts, would you say you pull the ace or just feel it and cut to it? Would guess you need a better mark to pull? I can pull mine but am trying different things in order to be deceptive. When you talk about multiple Ns, are you refering to pull more than one at the same time? Surely you don't want anything else than aces (or maybe kings)to be "marked".Frankly, the work I am doing now is definitely not for magic as you don't need all this for regular laymens. I guess I want to really take it another notch.
As for belly strippers, I got my hands on one two months ago that really impressed me and that I think could pass in a lot of games. Of course, they have been made by a professional card cutter ( so forget about doing them live). The poker player that I was 10 years ago never would have figured they were strippers. Although I think I had a false sence of security with plastic cards like copags. By the way, I never got the chance to get my hands on a good plastic stripper deck, anyone had this chance?
Finally, I have been watching the forum for about a year or two and the arguments can become a pain but it still is worth it to read this section for the insight I sometimes get.
That and the videos you do. I am happy you decided to continue posting.
Slim
p.s. For those who like historic reference, James McManus (and another historian whose name I forgot) once said that most cardsharps would cheat using kings to avoid being to obvious. That's what they would learn from their mentors. That's why I had a deck made with kings for gambling demonstration. Of course, I don't mention that the deck is a stripper, I guess I look better that way... and it's nice to keep some secrets.
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AMcD
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Posted: Apr 7, 2011 10:23pm
You mean around 14" in the video? I'm just trying to split the deck in two perfect halves, lol. Nothing weird, just some "delay" because I was thinking "well, should I do that? How to shuffle in a way they are convinced it's really shuffled". Something like that.
Because you're not the first one to ask, I detail a bit more.
- 32". The deck is really shuffled. No idea at all where the aces are.
- 35". I feel the first Ace. I'm lucky it's about the middle of the deck.
- 37". Using a strip cup I bring it to the top of the deck.
- 39". I feel the second Ace. The move is broken just to show you. Again, I'm a bit lucky, it's located in the middle. No need to strip cut then, I just leave it on top of the cut packet...
- 41". I add 4 spacers below it.
- 44". I add 4 spacers on top of the deck.
- 47". I set a brief using the Steven's control. Again, it's exaggerated, just to show you.
- 54". I cut to the brief.
What I call a multiple N-Stripped deck is a deck with several marks. For instance one for the Kings and one for the Aces.
With Holdem now, 8 or 9 players on average around the tables. Half of the deck or more is dealt every round! Aces are not "dangerous" anymore. The point is to be "clever". Stacking a straight, a flush or a set. Stacking a 4 of a kind is risky, to say the least, as people are always convinced it's something rare. Yet, it happens "often". Last year I've played something like 100 tourneys, I think I've faced something like 25 4 of a Kind and maybe 10 Straight Flush, just at my tables. Even 1 Royal Straight Flush! I can tell you that, in the past, with games like 5 card Draw (jacks to open), Straight Flush was something less common, lol. At least, in my context.
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AMcD
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Posted: Apr 10, 2011 6:27pm
Guys,
My website is down for 48h now. My hosting provider is trying to backup the servers. I apologize for those of you asking for the videos.
Good news though. My first booklet just needs two people from here to read/check it .
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slim23
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Posted: Apr 16, 2011 11:44am
AmcD,
I see your website is back and operationnal, good for you!
I never took the time to thank you for the details of your last video. Had a busy week,so, thank you.
Happy about your booklet, don't give up...
Slim
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AMcD
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Posted: Apr 16, 2011 12:08pm
Yes, it's back for a few hours. I was about to shoot the whole team of that company of morons. Servers out of order for 1 week, in 2011! How possible?
A few more videos soon!
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mavericklancer
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Posted: Apr 20, 2011 11:20pm
Wow, the N-stripper video is quite impressive. I've always been afraid of them because of the necessary knack, but I think I'll start experimenting after I make it through all of my Ortiz books. Looking forward to the next videos.
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BigSmile
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Posted: Apr 21, 2011 2:28am
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Good news though. My first booklet just needs two people from here to read/check it .
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Arnold,
was this an offering or "just" a statement?!?!? 
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AMcD
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Posted: Apr 21, 2011 12:04pm
No, just a statement.
The last good soul is working on it. Poor Jeff .
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AMcD
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Posted: May 1, 2011 11:04pm
I have added a video detailing 4 of my favorite peeks. I really enjoy glimpsing/peeking, there are dozens of possibilities.
http://www.arnoldmcdonald.org/code/main.php?p=6200000
Of course, because I detail, it's exaggerated! In actuality I go much faster than that. Beside, don't forget that a lot of misdirection is used when peeking a card, a classic being when looking at the hole cards. Another day I'll add 4 or 5 more.
Don't allow dealers to keep the deck in their hands .
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slim23
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Posted: May 2, 2011 2:49pm
Thank you for the video.
Lately, I have been going on your website in case there is another video.
It's always a pleasure to have one and talk about it.
Slim
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iamslow
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Posted: May 2, 2011 6:39pm
Arnold, this is the first time ive downloaded one of your vids as the topic of peeks interests me.... I havent watched it yet, but wanted to say thanks for sharing... will let you know what I think later...peace...
"Everyone is tough till they get punched in the face" Mike Tyson
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AMcD
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Posted: May 2, 2011 8:08pm
Cool.
So far, I've been lucky enough with those videos. The main bad point is that, usually, people tell me it's good or that they like them, but privately mainly :-(.
About the peeks, there are basic ones. Maybe it's the first time one shoots peeks with a cut card? When people don't really bother if the dealer keeps the deck in the hands, there are endless possibilities. It's fun to do.
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Kirjava
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Posted: May 3, 2011 7:28am
Arnold,
I like them. Especially the bottom peek with cut card, and it's the first time I see something like that.
Btw, thank you for making these videos: it feels good to see the techniques on video instead of photos and text from time to time.
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iamslow
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Posted: May 5, 2011 7:47am
Arnold.. Ive never seen the first peek and have seen variations of the fourth one..good job mate..Thanks for sharing..
"Everyone is tough till they get punched in the face" Mike Tyson
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J.CADEAC
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Posted: May 5, 2011 9:25am
I join all the enthusiasts, whatever move we talk about...
Another (rare ?) example which tends to prove that passion and work (and maybe...maybe some talent ) lead to something we can be proud of...
Jérôme
"You must either modify your dreams or magnify your skills".
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AMcD
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Posted: May 5, 2011 12:21pm
Well, if you wanna be kind with me...
Here are 4 more peeks then!
The last one took me some time to understand it! Actually it comes from a guy playing a former pub poker league I was last year. The guy took "some" time once in a while when he had to make a decision. I noticed that every time he had the deck in a vertical position. Then, I understood. Trust me, he was faster than me on the video!
I demonstrate each peek two times in the video. Of course, it's a bit exaggerated. I bet that 90% of you have never seen 2 of them .
Thanks for your comments.
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Kirjava
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Posted: May 5, 2011 12:30pm
Never saw the 2 first ones.
About the 2 last one, it seems to me like you could do better using the mechanics of the classic bubble peek and heel peek (while conserving the overall move of the wrist/hand). But it's just an humble opinion
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