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Pete Biro

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Posted: Apr 6, 2011 1:52am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Pete Biro  

Accidentally ate mine too... off to the Nut Shoppe at Farmer's Market.

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randirain

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Posted: Apr 6, 2011 4:38am    Reply with quote   View Profile of randirain  

Well... From what I hear...

The trick originated from a gag toy that was a rubber walnut.
I guess you were supposed to slip it into a dish of real walnuts.
Then when someone picks it up and tries to crack it, it just squishes...
And that was supposed to be funny.

Then like most stuff, a magician finds it one day and says "I can do something with that."

So in the spirit of things...
You really have to make it realistic to be able to fool someone that's trying to crack it.

SO I not only make it look like a walnut, it tastes, and even smells like one too.
How do I do that?

Gnomes.
I have gnomes that do all that for me.

Randi

Pete Biro

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Posted: Apr 6, 2011 10:28am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Pete Biro  

We all know that Gnomes are crazy nutz.

Posted: Apr 6, 2011 10:29am
I wonder who created the effect. Riser says, his book, he got it from Persi Diaconis. Vernon was said to have a routine. Anyone have any more information on it?

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randirain

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Posted: Apr 6, 2011 1:56pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of randirain  

The information about the gag walnut was told to me by Brian.
I think he said it was Dai that came up with it.

So as far as I know, that's the history he found when putting out the effect the first time.

Randi

Lawrence O

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Paris France
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Posted: Apr 6, 2011 7:08pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Lawrence O  

I've seen a film with Vernon performing the effect and, as already reported, allowing one of the (real) walnuts rolling off the table for a spectator to kindly pick it up (implicitely witnessing that the walnut is real).

This is not a proof of precedence, but it's a proof that The Professor had spent time seriously polishing the effect.

Magic is not a performing art where people don't know how situations are reached, it's the art of showing parallel dimensions that can't be reached
randirain

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Fort Worth, TX
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Posted: Apr 6, 2011 10:47pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of randirain  

Also from what I was told...

The company that made the rubber walnut stopped making them and make plastic ones.
The plastic ones didn't have the same ability of the rubber ones, so the tick went away.

And thanks everyone...

The bottomless glasses are all gone.

Randi

Lawrence O

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Paris France
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Posted: Apr 7, 2011 7:16am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Lawrence O  

Regarding the origin of the routine, the effect and the method are described in the fac simile of Bruce Cervon's Castle Noteebooks Vol 1 published by L&L p 180 where it is attributed on February 7, 1965 to "Vernon" (way before Ed Brown publication).

Admittedly this is not an actual proof but, with that written date, it could be considered as circumstancial evidence

Magic is not a performing art where people don't know how situations are reached, it's the art of showing parallel dimensions that can't be reached
Pete Biro

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Posted: Apr 7, 2011 11:17am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Pete Biro  

Once again... What's Old is New!

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Lawrence O

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Paris France
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Posted: Apr 8, 2011 8:31pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Lawrence O  

... including this new statement, Pete



Magic is not a performing art where people don't know how situations are reached, it's the art of showing parallel dimensions that can't be reached
Pete Biro

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Posted: Apr 8, 2011 8:57pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Pete Biro  

Nutz....

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randirain

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Fort Worth, TX
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Posted: Jun 12, 2011 7:22pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of randirain  

New version of Completely Nuts.

This one has the DVD, a new revamped gimmick walnut, and superb gimmick glass.

Right now the kit is on sale for $40... it won't be for long.

The special glass is worth that price alone!

Chris Henderson

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Indiana -- Anyone w/ no life would have
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Posted: Jun 20, 2011 3:11pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Chris Henderson  

I was fortunate enough to see Harry Riser do this live. Ever since then I too had been looking for one. I finally found one from Wack-o-magic.com, from their ad here on the Café.

It shipped super fast and I ordered real walnuts to go with it. When it arrived, I closed my eyes and poured them out. I then tried to pick out the rubber walnut. It took me three tries before I got it. And even then it was just a matter of chance that I happened to get it right. It looks absolutely indistinguishable from the real walnuts even when you know!

"I would rather have a mind opened by wonder than one closed by belief"

--Gerry Spence
motown

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Atlanta by way of Detroit
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Posted: Jun 17, 2012 8:37pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of motown  

Quote:

On 2011-04-07 07:16, Lawrence O wrote:
Regarding the origin of the routine, the effect and the method are described in the fac simile of Bruce Cervon's Castle Noteebooks Vol 1 published by L&L p 180 where it is attributed on February 7, 1965 to "Vernon" (way before Ed Brown publication).

Admittedly this is not an actual proof but, with that written date, it could be considered as circumstancial evidence

Had you done a little more homework, you would have found that Vernon learned the routine from Milt Kort of Detroit and has clearly stated that. Milt in turn learned it from another fellow, Marc Jacobs I believe.

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