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iugefu Veteran user 387 Posts |
I am considering building/buying this item.
Will be doing some shows with a musician at schools, he takes a long time to set up. So assuming one has at least an hour available before a show with volunteers, is it a risk using 2 'newly trained' assistants to produce oneself? Also, anyone purchase this item from Creative Magic and can comment on quality, etc.. |
MikeDes Inner circle Montreal 1174 Posts |
I highly recommend B-Screens by Creative Magic. I just sent them the Fabric I wanted and they custom made it for me. I think you can also chose from fabric they already have. The whole thing breaks down into a small duffel bag which is great as this illusion is almost 7 feet when set-up.
I've trained school principals in about 15 minutes once the illusion is set-up. Training the second person that will help you fold-up the screens would take a little longer and cannot be done without exposing the secret. I use a much more straight forward way of folding the screens than what is on the Creative Magic videos, which makes it much easier, but there is still a learning curve and a risk of fumbling at the wrong moment if you have an untrained assistant. In fact, this method is probably more vulnarable to this with an untrained assistant. So bottom line, Creative Magic's version is EXCELLENT, the person that appears can be trained very quickly, the person that helps fold up the screens can be trained in an hour but you are taking a fairly large performance risk. If you want to make an untrained person appear I would recommend the Cube Squared by Creative Magic. All you need is your new assistant to remember their cue to stand-up. Hope this helps. |
iugefu Veteran user 387 Posts |
It does, thank you.
I take it using 2 newly trained people to produce onself not recommended? |
MikeDes Inner circle Montreal 1174 Posts |
No, if something goes wrong there is no one to help. Not recommended!
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magic4545 Inner circle Jimmy Fingers 1159 Posts |
It's better for you to produce the host or guest of honor, of someone that they know.
The Creative B-screen is awesome! An amazing accomplishment. I own one, and I removed the last panel, making it a 5/7 instead of a 6/8. To me, a 5/7 is much more deceptive. It leaves the dirty work off center instead where it conventionally is in the 6/8 setup. I also use another different way of presenting it than the traditional way. Jeff McBride has requested that I license him my method of using the Bryce's Screen that is different than everyone else's way. The way that it's usually done, it's hard to prove it empty, or that the person helping didn't just somehow "come through the screen" through a door or panel. We know that's not how it works, but people who have nowhere else to go will assume that. My method alleviates all of that, and I can do it without any helpers to manipulate the screen. I only require the person to be produced, and they require no rehearsal, handling or training. Just stand still and wait until you see daylight and 'ta-da.' Good luck with it if you get it! Jimmy Fingers |
stephane_arnow Loyal user 283 Posts |
I use the abotts version.More rigid and strong.
Great prop.great reaction |
Kent Wong Inner circle Edmonton, Alberta, Canada 2458 Posts |
I would never relinquish control of the "magic momment" to an audience member. Too many things can go wrong and yet, at the end of the day, the audience and the client will only look towards you to blame.
Kent
"Believing is Seeing"
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Zakari Asiago Regular user Panhandle of Florida 183 Posts |
I have B-screens from Creative Magic.
great people to deal with. good quality prop.
Zakari Asiago
401 South Ave. Fort Walton Beach, FL 32547 |
Bairefoot Inner circle 1097 Posts |
I know this is an old thread. But, do you have a video Jimmy of the way you do it? Thanks
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illusions & reality Special user Saskatoon, SK, CANADA 859 Posts |
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On Aug 20, 2018, Bairefoot wrote: Hi Michael, Jimmy Fingers performance is on Jimmy Fingers Penguin Live lecture. Lou |
David_N New user Lancashire, England 93 Posts |
If you can have the house lights dimmed and have a black backdrop then Andrew Mayne's 'Specter Cabinet' is an effective but economical production illusion that packs into a duffle bag and only requires one assistant to do a simple task.
https://youtu.be/97L98PA27_w |
Bairefoot Inner circle 1097 Posts |
Thank you fellows!
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mrpiper Regular user Georgia 131 Posts |
I own, use, and love the "B-Screens" that I bought from Creative Magic. This is a great illusion and not too difficult to set up / perform, and can produce an untrained "VIP" with very little coaching. I feel you absolutely need your assistant to be trained which means you absolutely need an assistant with this illusion. No way I would ever try it with an audience member or someone I don't know and trust.
The down side to this illusion is the size. While the CM "B" Screens can break down into a bag, that takes quite a bit of time to set up. Also, they are no longer made so very difficult to come by. That said, if you leave the "B" Screens assembled, or build your own, or buy a Brice Screen, you will have a flat prop that is about 30" wide by over 6ft. long. You need to have a van to transport it. It will NOT fit in the back seat of the old Buick. Make sure you measure and understand the dimensions before buying or building. I really enjoy using this to produce a VIP and prefer to do it by having audience members come up and surround the screens holding hands. It makes the effect look very magical and even fools the people on the stage. We (my assistant and I) begin by sliding the prop out on stage and spinning it around before bringing people on stage and producing the VIP. If you would like specifics of what and how we stage and position the VIP just PM. |
Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Most magician's do not consider transportation and what it takes to transport such a prop. Consider you will have to make a bag enclosure, that is water proof, and sunlight proof. If you do not own a large vehicle, or a friend with an adequate vehicle, then you will most likely have to get a carrier that will attach to the top of your vehicle, and hold the illusion firmly against strong wind's and rain, sleet or snow. Contact an awning company to custom fashion a bag.
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