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What is the name of the one using a TT?
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Phantom card work really well, they aren't really an invisible deck but they are strong and gives the image of a card flipping because of the spectator's imagination.
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Unbound: Gimmickless Invisible Deck by Darryl Davis. This is one of the best DVDs I've ever bought
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On Dec 4, 2015, Jacob3 wrote:
Unbound: Gimmickless Invisible Deck by Darryl Davis. This is one of the best DVDs I've ever bought

When you ask for no props it limits how clean you can hope for it to be. But still... This one is almost as clean as the standard gimmicked version.
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I just got Unbound by Darryl Davis, and I agree with you guys. It is a great DVD, and though I haven't performed it yet, I really like it.
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I'm not to big of a fan of this effect, my protégé is, but I like Paul's version
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Not totally un-gimmicked, and not exactly 'Invisible Deck', but Richard OSterlind's 'Richardwave' has served me very well. You can give the deck away at the conclusion of the routine, and the kicker at the ending really sells the impossibility and the 'cleanliness' of it all.
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Asi Wind has a great one in Chapter 1. It's semi-gimmicked, in that you do need a single odd-backed card prepared a certain way. But you start and end with an ungimmicked deck that the audience could inspect.
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I have been looking for this new "invisible deck killer" for ages, and I have found that most of them are very impractical as you must have a stack or some other weird thing. These are a couple things I have found:
Gone by Daniel Madison- Very good effect, only problem is some palming is involved and a gimmick is used in the original handling, but you could eliminate the gimmick by using the SAC move.

Kollosal Killer by Kenton Knepper- Not really with a deck, but it allows you to end pretty clean.

Overall, if you are in the right situation, I personally do not think you should discount the invisible deck. Just add some touches that you would not otherwise be able to do, such as Sankey's X deck or an idea I saw Joshua Jay use where that was the only card with a corner torn off. My point is, you should combine multiple subtleties together with the Invisible deck that you otherwise could not do with a normal deck or have a nice variety of stack tricks for the non-gimmick version.

Sorry for my incoherent ramblings.
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Patrick Kun at the table lecture (Murphy’s Magic) has a nice invisible deck idea which require only an ordinary deck of cards. Also has other effects.
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I’ve been losing sleep over the version I saw Dani DaOrtiz perform last July when he was in Australia. It wasn’t his imaginary deck taught in Utopia, although the presentation themes were the same. But instead of the imaginary deck method it really was just ‘name a card’, and it was reversed in the deck that he was nowhere near.

Seriously. I’m losing sleep over this!
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Do you know where we could see the trick in a video ? Or can you discribe the more accurately you can what happened ?
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I’m deepy suspicious of my own memory - especially since Dani makes a real point in his teaching about how what the spectator sees is not always what the spectator remembers - but I’ll try my best. I’ve searched high and low for video footage but to no avail.

He had been lecturing for 45 minutes or so, mostly at the table. And he hadn’t explained anything as yet, just showing various tricks. He then launched into a fairy standard invisible deck routine. As he started the trick he got up from the table and walked in front of it. He pointed to a spectator, held up an invisible card, and asked the spectator what card it was - from memory it was the 7 of diamonds. This invisible card went into the invisible deck, again all quite standard. He then explained that the invisible deck contained the souls of the deck, walked back to the table holding the invisible cards aloft, and put that hand over the deck. If you’ve seen his presentation of the Imaginary Deck from Utopia or his first penguin live lecture it was very much the same, only there was only ever one card named, and none of the other verbal method that makes Imaginary deck work was in Play. It really was just a named card. As far as I remember. Anyway, with the soul in the deck he then spread the cards in the table, and again, as far as I recall, his hands were completely empty l- it was really clean. And in the deck, the only face up card was the 7 of diamonds. I remember being particularly struck because it was a deck that he’d been using, and I’m fairly sure it was borrowed. I was also struck because all the cards were face down barring one face up, which immediately distinguished it from the classic invisible deck.

A day later at his masterclass I saw him do the same thing again with a different freely named card. This was definitely a borrowed deck because the back design was somewhat fancy.. It was the one trick he declined to teach, and the one trick I was desparate to learn! Obviously what he does and doesn’t teach is absolutely his decision, and he was so kind and generous throughout the weekend, tipping huge amounts of material. But ***...

I have a few theories, none of which are completely satisfying. One is some form of pre-show or instant stooging. Dani is amazing when it comes to turning chosen cards into thought of cards with a bit of psychological misdirection. To my mind this seems most likely, and most in keeping with What I know of his style.

Another is that he got really lucky, and would have used the Imaginary Deck as an out if he needed to. Possibly a combination of these two elements would work. But I’m only speculating here!

Finally there could be elaborate switching at work with indexes and all sorts under the table. Having studied his Lap DVDs it seems possible, but not necessarily plausible.

I’ll just hold out hope that he releases it sometime, and I’ll be able to rest! Either that or if video of that performance crops up I might be able to see how faulty my memory is.
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