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MagicJuggler
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Anchorage, AK
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Posted: Jun 29, 2011 10:02am
Thanks Pete, that's exactly where I was going with it.
Matthew Olsen
www.mattolsenmagic.com
I heard from a friend that anecdotal evidence is actually quite reliable.
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David Regal
V.I.P.
638 Posts
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Posted: Jun 29, 2011 11:01am
I have just sold out of my $40 free give-away to my mailing list subscribers, so I am now opening sales to everyone else. If you go to my website, you will see the chain for sale at a special price.
Here is a link to the demo, now made public:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOiEb_P3RMU
I will tell you what you are looking at - this is a real chain, made of stainless steel, that has been gimmicked to work like a card-to-wallet.
David
www.regalmagic.com
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Pete Biro
V.I.P.
17765 Posts
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Posted: Jun 29, 2011 11:08am
Can the card be signed? 
Posted: Jun 29, 2011 11:12am
Seriously.... David, when I first saw you do this you thought it was going to be around $100.00 -- That would be fine, but your actual price is amazingly low for what they get.
STAY TOONED... @ www.petebiro.com
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David Regal
V.I.P.
638 Posts
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Posted: Jun 30, 2011 1:06pm
This effect of mine has stirred debate, which doesn't surprise me at all. I get emails of thanks, and the occasional email that says things to the effect of "But I know you did a false transfer...I know you had the ring in your hand...so how is this magical???" Well, besides the fact that a performer could use a different (easier) vanish if he chose (hank, ring box, etc.) sleight of hand works. I explain it better in my response to a concerned emailer:
"I knew this trick would cause controversy, because it is so bold, but it is bold in the manner of the classic method for card-to-wallet. Needless to say, I performed the effect with a homemade version of the prop before having it manufactured, and card-to-wallet is an appropriate analogy.
Here is an exchange from [another forum] in which I talk about the trick, as does a person who saw it performed for an audience:
Re: REGAL RING CHAIN [Re: David Regal]
Chris Aguilar
Is it possible to load the ring without having to show the chain in an unclasped/open position? It would be great if the hands could go up and lift the chain without having to remove it.
Re: REGAL RING CHAIN [Re: David Regal]
Pete McCabe
That's what I thought, Chris, when David first showed this to me. But I saw this in the close-up gallery and the audience did not care. The reaction was fantastic—audible gasps.
Re: REGAL RING CHAIN [Re: David Regal]
Pete Biro
Right, Pete... too many magicians "think like magicians." I would add my old Army Dog Tags on the chain.
Re: REGAL RING CHAIN [Re: David Regal]
David Regal
It's exactly like card-to-wallet, where the effect is of a card miraculously transporting itself to a wallet...although the method for card-to-wallet is: You put the card in the wallet. One has to completely divorce oneself from the workings to understand the effect the trick has on the audience.
Similarly, here you have a specially-made prop that allows for the FAST and smooth incorporation of an item - instead of a card going into a wallet you have a ring being added to a chain. You get the ring onto the chain in the same amount of time it naturally takes to remove a neck chain, an action the audience is intimately familiar with...just as the action of removing a wallet from a pocket is an action the audience is familiar with.
As magicians it's hard to remember that with card-to-wallet, the audience is perceiving an empty hand going into the jacket, even though it is never shown. When one changes the palmed card to a finger-palmed ring, there is an extra display of an "empty" hand that can be thrown into the mix, which is nice.
I add some time after the false transfer, so the guilty hand is nowhere near the "ring hand" at the moment of the vanish. Of course, if one were to use a ring vanishing hank, this is not an issue, and the trick becomes very close to self-working.
I don't want anyone to buy a prop they can't put to use - I believe I've been very clear about what the ring chain accomplishes, and why, as in the case with a traditional card-to-wallet, a very bold action results in an amazing effect.
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So, yes, I understand your concerns, but they are the same concerns as magicians who go to great lengths to avoid palming a card, as they don't want to reach into their jacket concealing an object they are not supposed to be holding. A lot of the no-palm methods are great, but the end effect is exactly the same to an audience, as to them a hand holding a palmed object is an empty hand.
To better explain, what if I were to show you two empty hands, then reach up and unclasp my necklace, taking it off to reveal a ring hanging from the center? It would be a miracle. Well, that is what an audience is seeing. To them I am reaching up with two empty hands. I usually have the guilty hand far, far away - and time has passed - before the "vanish" is executed. I can flash an empty palm via the Ramsay subtlety. And of course, if you use a vanishing ring-hank, then things are further simplified.
One would have to take the stance that is impossible to convincingly vanish an object for an audience, and/or secretly conceal an object, in order to say there is no effect with the Ring Chain. But vanishes and concealments are the heart of magic, so, yes, they do work.
What you are getting with the Ring Chain is a device that let's you get a ring onto a chain smoothly and quickly, just as with a card-to-wallet you are getting a prop that allows you to insert a card into it smoothly and quickly. That said, this is a prop for a performer who is comfortable with vanishes and concealments, and wants a device that, used in concert with them, can produce an effect that will indeed amaze people!
All the best,
David"
www.regalmagic.com
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J-Mac
Inner circle
Ridley Park, PA
3012 Posts
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Posted: Jul 1, 2011 8:11pm
This rocks! Works well for me (though it can be a little tough with a t-shirt and long hair...) But I manage to work around it. I use a ring hank to vanish the ring and then "find" it on the chain around my neck, which is usually very unexpected by all! I've used Richard Sanders's "Any Ring" which works very well, and I have ordered the "No-Ring Ring Hank" from Fabric Manipulations but am still waiting on delivery.
Over all this has been a great purchase. Excellent product, super price - just what I expect from David Regal.
Thanks!
Jim
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Dr_J_Ayala
Inner circle
In search of Vlad Dracul and his
2063 Posts
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Posted: Jul 2, 2011 12:41am
J-Mac, you will love the hank from Loretta at Fabric Manipulation!
I am going to throw my two cents in on this, although I personally have no use for this particular effect. As to what David Regal was saying about the controversy, this effect and its 'dirty hand' situation can be likened to any non-reel ring flight, but nobody ever seems to have an issue doing basically the same thing with those...
The saying that the 'problem with magicians is they always think like a magician' has been done to death but it is true; what is boring, bland, obvious and/or no good to us can be mind-shattering to an audience. As a magician it is important to never lose the ability to think like a layperson, or at least, the ability to see thing from their point of view. Far too many do.
Too many performers these days also look for the easy way out because they do not want to put time and effort into an effect, and that is where all good effects and their performers lose their ability to wow anyone.
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dave
Inner circle
1631 Posts
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Posted: Jul 2, 2011 6:57am
I am a huge David Regal fan, I love that all his effects are real workers, not you tube phony stuff, that end up for sale here at half price, I do have a but, I would have purchased this at the promo price, but now at the higher regular price, it's a budget thing, I wish I got the email, but then it's my fault , I get too many emails and my Norton software gets bogged down, bummer.
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David Regal
V.I.P.
638 Posts
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Posted: Jul 2, 2011 12:12pm
Uh...the new "higher price" is actually a lower cash outlay - only $60 (for now) - you just don't get the free Spectre handkerchief.
www.regalmagic.com
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Pete Biro
V.I.P.
17765 Posts
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Posted: Jul 2, 2011 1:18pm
David needs the money to pay his dentist. Then he'll be able to post a new avatar with a toothy grin.
STAY TOONED... @ www.petebiro.com
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J-Mac
Inner circle
Ridley Park, PA
3012 Posts
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Posted: Jul 2, 2011 2:06pm
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On 2011-07-02 12:12, David Regal wrote:
Uh...the new "higher price" is actually a lower cash outlay - only $60 (for now) - you just don't get the free Spectre handkerchief.
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To be brutally honest Dave, they're better off without the Spectre handkerchief. Mine will never see the light of day again.
Jim
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David Regal
V.I.P.
638 Posts
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Posted: Jul 2, 2011 2:10pm
It was free, and it let people get into the routine right away without a false transfer. Just a bonus.
www.regalmagic.com
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dave
Inner circle
1631 Posts
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Posted: Jul 2, 2011 2:55pm
Well, I ordered mine today, so I will post a review with and without the hank, I am willing to bet as with all DR products, this will not disapoint.
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Aus
Special user
Australia
536 Posts
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Posted: Jul 2, 2011 9:07pm
Do you need a collared shirt to perform this?
Magically
Aus
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J-Mac
Inner circle
Ridley Park, PA
3012 Posts
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Posted: Jul 3, 2011 12:57am
Aus, no you don’t need a collared shirt. Works fine with a tee-shirt.
Jim
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dave
Inner circle
1631 Posts
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Posted: Jul 3, 2011 8:56am
J mac, do you need long hair to perform this ? If so , I may need to work out a deal with you.
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J-Mac
Inner circle
Ridley Park, PA
3012 Posts
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Posted: Jul 4, 2011 1:07am
LOL - no, you definitely do not need long hair! I only mentioned it because it actually gets in my way. High time I got rid of some of it anyway. 
Jim
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gcordingley
New user
13 Posts
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Posted: Jul 4, 2011 8:22am
I have enjoyed practicing with the Regal Ring Chain. I appreciated the clear instructions that came on the accompanying DVD, on which David demonstrated multiple methods for vanishing the ring. As an amateur I was especially pleased that I could perform the retention vanish at my modest level of skill. As David pointed out, it's easier to do this vanish with a ring than with a coin.
Gary Cordingley
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dave
Inner circle
1631 Posts
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Posted: Jul 4, 2011 1:02pm
Jim, I could use whatever you don't need>>>>
Gary, thanks for the info, as I have said before, I am a huge fan of Regal magic, he does not put out effects that he does not use himself, and they are all simple and direct to a lay audience, and after all, that’s who matters, it’s crazy that magicians need to "fool" other magicians, we are entertainers, this effect is a perfect example, without having received mine yet, the method is pretty obvious, I'm sure a shoelace would do the same thing, but it is the little extras that come with this that make it a performance piece that will get used, for one, stainless steel I believe is what the chain is made of, that is a big deal, and as Gary said, the complete , nothing left out tutorial, teaching things that can go beyond this effect, and I'm sure there is much more, but the BBQ awaits along with another cold one.
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David Regal
V.I.P.
638 Posts
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Posted: Jul 4, 2011 2:10pm
Dave -
Enjoy your BBQ and beer, and Happy 4th to all. You will be pleased to discover that the ring chain (stainless steel) has indeed been gimmicked to allow for the swift introduction of the borrowed ring - it's not just a steel shoelace!
David
www.regalmagic.com
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dave
Inner circle
1631 Posts
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Posted: Jul 4, 2011 8:38pm
David, I hope I did not offend you by saying shoe lace, I was trying to say two things, first that if it were just that simple, because it is something you created, it would be amazing, the most amazing shoelace anyone has ever seen, and second, that I happen to know that it is much more than that, I have many of your effects and they all are simple and direct with huge impact, some have me saying, why didn't I think of that, any way, I hope you get what I'm trying to say, many thanks Dave
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J-Mac
Inner circle
Ridley Park, PA
3012 Posts
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Posted: Jul 4, 2011 11:37pm
This effect is perfectly magical, the chain is very nice looking, the load is about as easy as one could ever want, and the DVD instructions are the same as Divid's instructions always are - clear and very complete. And the price is more than fair. Extremely fair. This purchase was a no-brainer for me.
Thanks David for yet another winner!
Jim
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Martino
Special user
Manchester, UK
765 Posts
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Posted: Jul 5, 2011 2:52am
Received my Regal Ring Chain yesterday and watched the DVD last night. Great prop, simple and easy method. Love it!
"There's a difference between not knowing how something is done and knowing it can't be done!" - Simon Aronson
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J-Mac
Inner circle
Ridley Park, PA
3012 Posts
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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 3:34pm
Eek! A piece of advice (which should have been obvious to me but wasn’t at first!):
Don’t perform this with a close-collar shirt (T-shirt or Polo shirt) when wearing suspenders! I was standing there wondering why I had such a hard time getting the ring to A) slide around to the front, and B) stay inside the shirt collar. And here I had thought that I was all prepared...
Won't do that again!! :O 
Jim
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dave
Inner circle
1631 Posts
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Posted: Jul 7, 2011 7:41am
My 2 cents.
My package, it arrived very fast, the packaging, to me is so unimportant, but in many reviews I read it seems to be important, so the packaging is impressive.
The chain looks like a nice piece of jewelry; it is definitely not a cheap looking.
The gimmick is not at all what I expected, it is quite brilliant, at first I thought I did not like it, and that it would not work, especially with a T shirt, but then after watching the DVD, it made perfect sense, It is a very simple gimmick, loading is fast and easy, the detail in the chain is amazing, right down to the clasp, it is typical Regal thinking, in that everything is designed to help sell the effect to a spectator and there are tiny things incorporated to do just that, so minor, yet so major, those who have this and those who will get this, the thought behind the clasp is very cool. The DVD again, typical Regal, easy to follow, easy to remember what you need to do, loaded with tips , and psychological thoughts coming from a pro who has done the effect thousands of times.
Will you use this or toss it in a draw, perhaps sell it here for less money, NO, this will be a keeper.
The effect and ease of use, you put the chain around your neck, now you are ready to perform, even if you know no sleights, or you are an expert, this will work.
My guess, after wearing this for a while, many will forget they even have it on.
Any shirt will work, long hair, short hair, no hair….
This will work under any circumstance, stop reading and get it.
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David Regal
V.I.P.
638 Posts
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Posted: Jul 7, 2011 7:04pm
Thanks, Dave. This prop requires one to forget that he is a magician - anyone reading this can tell that I'm doing a false transfer in the demo, but one needs to see past that to the effect! To be fair, in actual performance I ALWAYS let a little time pass after the transfer, so the guilty hand is gone and forgotten by the time of the vanish. However, if that brand of vanish is too bold for you, do this:
a) Get a ring handkerchief (at http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S8967 it costs under $20).
b) Borrow the ring, put it under the handkerchief, and while they think they are holding the ring, ditch the borrowed ring into a pocket.
c) Perform the vanish with the ring handkerchief. Easy, amazing, and your hands are empty. The ring is GONE.
d) Return the hank to the pocket, secretly picking up the ring. Motivated and sneaky.
e) With a gesture, flash two empty hands (the ring is in finger palm - automatically hidden).
f) Mention your chain, then take it off revealing the borrowed ring hanging from the center.
This is a classic time-tested sequence (Lippincott box, Nest of Boxes, etc), and even a newbie should feel 100% protected, as a ring is secretly held for only a moment. Trust me on this.
And again - thanks.
David
www.regalmagic.com
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dave
Inner circle
1631 Posts
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Posted: Jul 7, 2011 7:50pm
The tutorial on the false transfer on this DVD is worth the price just for that, but the effect is fun to do, and stunning to witness, and it is so silly easy to do, I feel guilty.
I am a klutz and I can do the sleights after watching this DVD,
Dave
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Pete Biro
V.I.P.
17765 Posts
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Posted: Jul 12, 2011 4:00pm
YIPPEEEEE!
After a looooooooooong search, I finally found my olde original Army Dog Tags. They look great on the chain. Now to find some folks to perform the effect on.
STAY TOONED... @ www.petebiro.com
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dave
Inner circle
1631 Posts
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Posted: Jul 12, 2011 8:09pm
I have Chai on mine.
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Pete Biro
V.I.P.
17765 Posts
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Posted: Jul 13, 2011 12:55am
Pardon my ignorance, what is Chai?
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dave
Inner circle
1631 Posts
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Posted: Jul 13, 2011 10:25am
A sign of life,
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