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brehaut

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Posted: Jul 2, 2011 10:27am    Reply with quote   View Profile of brehaut  

I winced when he came out in that outfit, etc. But it worked for him. As we say on this site over and over don't try to be someone else. He was unique and I applaud him.

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Withnail

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Posted: Jul 2, 2011 11:53am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Withnail  

I'm with jay. Unique yes. But awful.

Yet again that oaf has destroyed my day
David Numen

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Posted: Jul 2, 2011 12:04pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of David Numen  

Whatever WE think of him consider this. The judges were left open-mouthed. Now, I am no fan of Piers Morgan or Sharon Osbourne but they HAVE been around and seen a lot. And even if THEIR opinions don't matter, the audience were stunned too. I'd say he was a hit.

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mindpunisher

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Posted: Jul 2, 2011 12:21pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of mindpunisher  

I thought he was good actually. Its not an easy thing to do in such a short time. Did he get through to Hollywood? It would be interesting to see of he could sustain it.

When I first saw him I thought he looked really stupid. But he was entertaining.

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Shrubsole

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Posted: Jul 2, 2011 12:57pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Shrubsole  

Ummm errrr where was the mentalism? Or 'psychic' anything?

He asked for a card, they named it and quickly he got it out of the deck. - That's just a magic trick.
mindpunisher

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Posted: Jul 2, 2011 1:09pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of mindpunisher  

I wonder if many mentalists would have got through?

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keeblem

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Posted: Jul 2, 2011 1:22pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of keeblem  

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On 2011-07-02 12:57, Shrubsole wrote:
Ummm errrr where was the mentalism? Or 'psychic' anything?

He asked for a card, they named it and quickly he got it out of the deck. - That's just a magic trick.



One could argue that any "mentalism" routine is just a magic trick.

Mark

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JAlenS

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Posted: Jul 2, 2011 8:07pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of JAlenS  

That made my day. Fig is my hero...if I had one. Sorry John Wayne.

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Shrubsole

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Posted: Jul 2, 2011 8:13pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Shrubsole  

Quote:

On 2011-07-02 13:22, keeblem wrote:
Quote:

On 2011-07-02 12:57, Shrubsole wrote:
Ummm errrr where was the mentalism? Or 'psychic' anything?

He asked for a card, they named it and quickly he got it out of the deck. - That's just a magic trick.



One could argue that any "mentalism" routine is just a magic trick.

Mark



Yes of course but isn't the secret to at least attempt to make it look like some 'mystic' sense is involved?
I.E. Pick a card and without doing any manipulation with it you make out that you are reading their mind to tell the cards identity. - yes just a trick, like what he did was just a trick, but where is the mentalism angle in what he did?
MichaelCGM

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Posted: Jul 2, 2011 8:59pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of MichaelCGM  

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On 2011-07-02 12:57, Shrubsole wrote: Ummm errrr where was the mentalism? Or 'psychic' anything? He asked for a card, they named it and quickly he got it out of the deck. - That's just a magic trick.


He bills himself as a "psychic magician." For some, that may mean that everything he does is psychic magic. For others, it may mean that he performs psychic effects as well as magic effects, not necessarily at the same time.

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David Thiel

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Posted: Jul 2, 2011 9:59pm    David Thiel is on-line  Reply with quote   View Profile of David Thiel  

Unique. Strange.

...unique.

Good for you, Fig! The dancing was strange and the purple nail polish was...well...also strange. But you're on your way to Vegas and I'm here. So congratulations, guy.

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mastermindreader

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Posted: Jul 2, 2011 10:02pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of mastermindreader  

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On 2011-07-02 13:22, keeblem wrote:

One could argue that any "mentalism" routine is just a magic trick.



It depends on whose point of view you are taking, the performer's or the viewers'. Perception is everything.

What Fig did (very well I think) was presented, and intended to be perceived, as a magic trick. I doubt that anyone took the "psychic" in "Psychic Magician" seriously, given Newton the Cat, the dancing, the costume, persona etc. Fig is a comedy magician, not a mentalist regardless of how he bills himself.

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Decomposed

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Posted: Jul 2, 2011 11:55pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Decomposed  

Nice routine from a comedy magician. Thanks for link.

90 seconds of pure laughs without a standing ovation!
justin longshore

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Posted: Jul 3, 2011 1:39am    Reply with quote   View Profile of justin longshore  

I enjoyed the predancing part! It was simple and quick. Hopefully that will help him be able to gradually build better acts for future performances in the series. I worry that some magicians start with their best of the best, and then can't beat themselves later in the competition. Im thinking with a cat that cool, he could do some great cat illusions!
keeblem

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Posted: Jul 3, 2011 2:13am    Reply with quote   View Profile of keeblem  

He does have another video on you tube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCwWHmgPrfk

The whole "name any card" is obviously something he does a lot (and does very well). But makes me wonder what he's going to do in the next round...

Mark

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Withnail

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Posted: Jul 3, 2011 5:29am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Withnail  

I Will happily send him a suggestion, based on a bottle of parafin that cat and a multiple out... Only joking of course... There would be no multiple out.

Yet again that oaf has destroyed my day
Andy Stephenson

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Posted: Jul 3, 2011 7:12am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Andy Stephenson  

I think a lot of you are missing the point, it's meant to be funny, it's meant to be weird, it's meant to be quirky.
And while many of you dwell in your "rightous indignation" because he used the word psychic, he is off to vegas, loving life and one hell of a card magician.
I think it's worth thinking about as well, if you and "cat man" both did a trick for the same person; in 30 years time, who do you think they would remember more?

Andy

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Withnail

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Posted: Jul 3, 2011 9:21am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Withnail  

Ask yourself *why* they would remember catweasel more... I don't care that he's off to the bright lights and wish him well. I just think everyone jumping up and down saying he's the greatest thing since sliced bread need to get out a little more. He's a card magician. With a quirky angle. That's all.

Yet again that oaf has destroyed my day
Shrubsole

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Posted: Jul 3, 2011 10:03am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Shrubsole  

Maybe "Psycho Magician" would have been a better title.
cpbartak

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Posted: Jul 3, 2011 10:17am    Reply with quote   View Profile of cpbartak  

I suddenly want to eat some fig newtons for some reason.
IAIN

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Posted: Jul 3, 2011 10:21am    IAIN is on-line  Reply with quote   View Profile of IAIN  

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On 2011-07-03 10:17, cpbartak wrote:
I suddenly want to eat some fig newtons for some reason.



fig neutered?

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Jay Are

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Posted: Jul 3, 2011 10:53am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Jay Are  

This was an awful "lets put the train wreck through because he's good for a laugh and ratings situation....


he will not win...

he wont even come close....


I think giving the untalented gag acts a glimmer of hope like this is cruel...

j

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Andy Stephenson

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Posted: Jul 3, 2011 11:05am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Andy Stephenson  

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On 2011-07-03 10:53, Jay Are wrote:
This was an awful "lets put the train wreck through because he's good for a laugh and ratings situation....


he will not win...

he wont even come close....


I think giving the untalented gag acts a glimmer of hope like this is cruel...

j



I'm pretty sure he must have figured out he isn't going to win Jay, but he's a grown man that entered the competition himself, unlike some of the kids that get pushed into performing. But if he's having fun and gets some exposure for himself is it really cruel? He gets a free holiday and will probably be spending more time on the streets around vegas entertaining people and having fun than doing anything for the show.
Is he really going to be that broke up about not winning? I doubt it..

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Mind Guerrilla

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Posted: Jul 3, 2011 11:45am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Mind Guerrilla  

To the nit-pickers: Would you accept this as a mentalism effect if Fig had said, "Before I came on stage I predicted which cards you would select. I placed two on top of the deck and one in my cat's ear."?

Don't overlook the fact that he even gave Howie Mandel a brief reading: "That's because you've got a good heart."

Considering the fact that they only give you 90 seconds to perform, I think Fig had the right approach. He got their attention, he won them over and he got moved on to the next round. I look forward to seeing what he does next.

He's not going to win? He's "untalented"? Where have you gone, Norman Vincent Peale?

(sigh)

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Posted: Jul 3, 2011 11:48am    Reply with quote   View Profile of DekEl  

It was a hilarious and well constructed act.

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Shrubsole

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Posted: Jul 3, 2011 11:53am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Shrubsole  

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On 2011-07-03 11:45, Mind Guerrilla wrote:
To the nit-pickers: Would you accept this as a mentalism effect if Fig had said, "Before I came on stage I predicted which cards you would select. I placed two on top of the deck and one in my cat's ear."?



It would help, yes! It would establish that some mental process had taken place.
Mind Guerrilla

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On 2011-07-03 11:53, Shrubsole wrote:
Quote:

On 2011-07-03 11:45, Mind Guerrilla wrote:
To the nit-pickers: Would you accept this as a mentalism effect if Fig had said, "Before I came on stage I predicted which cards you would select. I placed two on top of the deck and one in my cat's ear."?



It would help, yes! It would establish that some mental process had taken place.


Oh, but he communicated that point telepathically. To me, anyway.

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IAIN

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Posted: Jul 3, 2011 12:01pm    IAIN is on-line  Reply with quote   View Profile of IAIN  

Well, I think the term magician is enough to send the message that its just light-hearted tricks and nothing else...

he wasn't dressed or presenting himself in a serious way - just as an old guy who was a bit whacky, that's all...and the cat meiouwed at a good time too...

no harm done to mentalism, lets be honest...unless you happen to be an old man, billed as a psychic magician, and is a very serious mentalist with a dog...

it made a change to see, rather than yet another throat-warbling cretin who thinks running up and down the scales is classed as singing a song...(go listen to aretha to learn how to sing a song, and when to riff vocally)...

the guy was ok...

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David Numen

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Posted: Jul 3, 2011 1:35pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of David Numen  

No he almost certainly won't win but doesn't it make a nice change from kid singers and street dancers just to have a LITTLE bit of variety?

Here's an interesting thought. Given that what he did is more or less along the same lines as David Barglas does, how far do you think HE would have gotten with the judges and/or audiences? In fact it's an interesting excercise to consider how our fave mentalists and magi would succeed.

For my money I think Bob Cassdiy and Chan Canasta are two of the few who could (or would have in Chan's case) come up with an interesting enough presentation AND been charming enough to keep the judges intrigued enough.

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Andy Stephenson

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Posted: Jul 3, 2011 1:52pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Andy Stephenson  

Quote:

On 2011-07-03 13:35, David Numen wrote:

Here's an interesting thought. Given that what he did is more or less along the same lines as David Berglas does, how far do you think HE would have gotten with the judges and/or audiences?




very interesting thought.

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