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EricDraven
Inner circle
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Posted: Oct 13, 2011 7:10pm
DVD arrived! Very nice version imo...
Believe me...nothing is trivial...
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AWESOME
New user
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Posted: Oct 13, 2011 8:25pm
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On 2011-10-13 18:28, charles.karelis wrote:
Just looking at the video, I'd say Mr. Mansilla is a giant standing on the shoulders of a giant, Barrie Richardson. This is just a great version of ACAAN. Taking the deck out of the case so cleanly is to me a bigger advantage than a clean count by a spectator--though I won't deny that that clean count looks very pretty on Asi Wind's video. To the person who "caught" the "flashes," I'd say that's pretty irrelevant to the assessment of this effect. You might as well say you saw a thumbtip. I'm going to guess audiences won't. I am going to buy this.
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Mansilla is a giant? Try again. If he had put more thought into his ACAAN routine he could have EASILY solved all of the issues with it, AND been able to let the spectator deal.
To the people looking for a great impromptu ACAAN, look at Barrie Richardson's and work off of that. With the right thinking, the spectator can pick Any Card, Any Number, AND do the dealing.
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brehaut
Inner circle
kentucky
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Posted: Oct 13, 2011 8:35pm
What country are you from Awesome?
Twitter: @GSBKY and Author of "Inspired"
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zgecko
Elite user
427 Posts
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Posted: Oct 13, 2011 10:15pm
I watched the DVD for the first time this evening. The routine is excellent, as has been discussed, and the method is clear and thorough!
There is one issue with my disc that I do wonder about: The program menu includes a section titled 'Comments and Variations,' but it can't be selected. (The cursor jumps over it!) I don't really have the feeling that I am missing something, but at one point in the discussion of 'Method,' it is stated that 'variations will be discussed later.'
Is it possible that my DVD is 'missing' a section of the content? Any thoughts would be sincerely appreciated!
Tom
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BigSmile
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Posted: Oct 14, 2011 1:48am
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On 2011-10-13 17:57, doriancaudal wrote:
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On 2011-10-13 16:20, BigSmile wrote:
Two questions (I think they haven't been asked before in this topic):
1) Can the cards be dealt face up by the magician?
2) Can the cards be dealt in a slower way than shown in the performance video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAuxaiPU0Y4
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I have got the DVD, and the answers are: yes (almost always), yes.
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REALLY GREAT!!
A final one:
Can the cards be dealt by a spectator?
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brad12d3
Veteran user
355 Posts
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Posted: Oct 14, 2011 12:55pm
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On 2011-10-13 22:15, zgecko wrote:
I watched the DVD for the first time this evening. The routine is excellent, as has been discussed, and the method is clear and thorough!
There is one issue with my disc that I do wonder about: The program menu includes a section titled 'Comments and Variations,' but it can't be selected. (The cursor jumps over it!) I don't really have the feeling that I am missing something, but at one point in the discussion of 'Method,' it is stated that 'variations will be discussed later.'
Is it possible that my DVD is 'missing' a section of the content? Any thoughts would be sincerely appreciated!
Tom
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Yeah the DVD authoring wasn't great when it came to mapping the buttons. Pressing up and down won't get you there, however if you have a left and right option on your remote then it will get you to that selection.
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brad12d3
Veteran user
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Posted: Oct 14, 2011 12:57pm
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On 2011-10-14 01:48, BigSmile wrote:
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On 2011-10-13 17:57, doriancaudal wrote:
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On 2011-10-13 16:20, BigSmile wrote:
Two questions (I think they haven't been asked before in this topic):
1) Can the cards be dealt face up by the magician?
2) Can the cards be dealt in a slower way than shown in the performance video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAuxaiPU0Y4
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I have got the DVD, and the answers are: yes (almost always), yes.
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REALLY GREAT!!
A final one:
Can the cards be dealt by a spectator?
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Not really. If you are really good at sleights then you could hand the cards to the spectator to do the last part of the count.
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zgecko
Elite user
427 Posts
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Posted: Oct 14, 2011 1:11pm
Brad12d3,
Thank you for your response to my problem in getting 'Comments and Variations' to play on the DVD! Your suggestion worked like a charm!! How curious the problem is,...especially considering the quality of the recording!!!
Tom
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mike donoghue
Regular user
178 Posts
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Posted: Oct 14, 2011 3:22pm
When I watched the performance of the dvd I knew exactlly how it worked and realised why it was not shown on the trailer.
I think the method is good & workable. However after performance the reset time for another table in the close up environment would take a few minutes.
I have changed the initial set up by simply reversing it and this does away with running lots of cards(too many) apart from the first one which I think looks suspect close up. Instead a simple more natural false shuffle looks better after either double under cutting one card or just running one card to the bottom.Anyone who has this will know what I mean & anyone who hasn't won't be tipped the method.
A very simple and nice solution to this effect.
Mike Donoghue
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JanForster
Inner circle
Germany ... two of me is one too much ..
2098 Posts
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Posted: Oct 14, 2011 9:44pm
While I think too that Eureka is quite nice (and owes a lot to Barrie Richardson for which reason I didn’t buy it as it was clear to me immediately, but that’s not the point…) I do not agree with some opinions about Woody Aragon’s ACAAN: If you want to perform it as a more or less straight ACAAN (not Woody’s intention and presentation) you must adjust your presentation. Don’t forget that the spectator can do the entire counting. I repeat what I’ve written already in a another thread:
There is still one thing you should not do (IMHO, I do not...) telling the audience in advance what you are going to do with the not chosen values (or numbers). That is confusing for them (Dai Vernon: " Confusion is no magic"). In addition you spoil a clever strategy... Just keep talking about forming a truly random playing card what you are actually doing also (if there is something you've to do you could do it now, same time creating an important time delay for a later recall of actions).
Once it is done and the spectator doesn't want to change his mind anymore (another strong point!) then (and not earlier) start to talk about a random number from 1 to 52 (which is a lie..., but people will not notice and/or forget!). At this point the deck would be out of your hands. As an afterthought or an idea that just came to you make the proposition to use all the not chosen numbers to form a truly random number. Try it, you'll see a huge difference in the audience's perception. Jan
Jan Forster
www.gedankenmagier.de
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Jan Walla
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Before you disappear I surround you with
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Posted: Oct 14, 2011 10:49pm
Well said Jan. I agree 100%. It couldn't be better described...
Jan ;)
Magic, in essence, is the ability of conjuring spirits who help the magician accomplish astonishing feats.
-Be glad that I am not a Sorcerer... 
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JanForster
Inner circle
Germany ... two of me is one too much ..
2098 Posts
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Posted: Oct 15, 2011 12:00am
Good Jans think alike... Jan
Jan Forster
www.gedankenmagier.de
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magicphill
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230 Posts
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Posted: Oct 15, 2011 1:50pm
Going back a step in this thread I'd be interested in Richard Vollmers Automatic ACAAN
There definately needs to be an english language book of his work
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Nicolino
Inner circle
2026 Posts
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Posted: Oct 15, 2011 4:49pm
Why, if it's unpublished yet???
The Mati Envelope
A brandnew peek device for the working mentalist!
Chance's Token
Tarot cards in a scenic piece of mystery.....
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doriancaudal
Special user
809 Posts
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Posted: Oct 15, 2011 7:07pm
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On 2011-10-15 13:50, magicphill wrote:
Going back a step in this thread I'd be interested in Richard Vollmers Automatic ACAAN
There definately needs to be an english language book of his work
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No this version is not published... It is a very nice version, and we are only 7 to know it in France I am sure a day it will be released for those who deserve it
Eurka is excellent by the way...
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magicphill
Loyal user
230 Posts
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Posted: Oct 16, 2011 10:44am
Let's hope that one day more than 7 people will know this version
He's got some great ideas when it comes to self working and semi automatic tricks
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tester2006
Regular user
174 Posts
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Posted: Oct 19, 2011 5:43pm
I guess I'm the only one who is disappointed in this. For starters, although any card can be selected, any number can not. Audience management is required, it is not fullproof, and you likely need several spectators to perform this in front of as it may not work one on one.
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AWESOME
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Posted: Oct 19, 2011 9:48pm
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On 2011-10-19 17:43, tester2006 wrote:
I guess I'm the only one who is disappointed in this. For starters, although any card can be selected, any number can not. Audience management is required, it is not fullproof, and you likely need several spectators to perform this in front of as it may not work one on one.
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Your not alone, my posts have been deleted, and I'm sure this one will be too.
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MovieMan
Elite user
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Posted: Oct 19, 2011 9:58pm
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On 2011-10-19 21:48, AWESOME wrote:
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On 2011-10-19 17:43, tester2006 wrote:
I guess I'm the only one who is disappointed in this. For starters, although any card can be selected, any number can not. Audience management is required, it is not fullproof, and you likely need several spectators to perform this in front of as it may not work one on one.
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Your not alone, my posts have been deleted, and I'm sure this one will be too.
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Is this true? Are posts critical of this effect being deleted?
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takeachance
Inner circle
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Posted: Oct 20, 2011 1:55am
That is 1 post being deleted and it could be for many reasons, look under "report this post' I don't think there is any conspiracy going on lads, but there are rules and regulations as to what can be said on open forums.
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AWESOME
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Posted: Oct 20, 2011 12:03pm
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On 2011-10-20 01:55, takeachance wrote:
That is 1 post being deleted and it could be for many reasons, look under "report this post' I don't think there is any conspiracy going on lads, but there are rules and regulations as to what can be said on open forums.
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Anyone who has been around The Magic Café knows that MANY posts get deleted if they criticize an effect that is being advertised on this site. On these forums money talks.
So take what is said on these forums lightly, because you're missing out on all the deleted posts with actual feelings.
Read this quickly, take a screenshot, or do something to prove that it ever existed, because if it makes it past the 24 hour mark, I and many other member's will be surprised.
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Jan Walla
Loyal user
Before you disappear I surround you with
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Posted: Nov 6, 2011 1:24am
I didn't like Eureka because it is not, IMO, how ACAAN should be presented.
There is way too much going on....the adding to 'the number' is not what 'Any Number' stands for...(that's the reason you need more people for this) the dealing of the cards by the performer, a certain move...etc.
I am really learning so much from The Berglas Effects by Richard Kaufman. Now that material is worth gold if you are into ACAAN.
My two cents.
Magic, in essence, is the ability of conjuring spirits who help the magician accomplish astonishing feats.
-Be glad that I am not a Sorcerer...
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Kyle^Ravin
Inner circle
I slammed my head against
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Posted: Dec 11, 2011 6:38am
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On 2011-10-12 03:54, doriancaudal wrote:
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On 2011-10-12 00:09, takeachance wrote:
So back to X Eureka, seems the general concenses is it is a worth while purchase. There are so many ACAAN's coming onto the market, does this stack up in the top 5?
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Yes this ACAAN goes into my personal top 5 for ACAANs, or rather top 6 (!) which is:
1- Meant To Be (John Born)
2- Eureka (Roberto Mansilla)
3- Automatic ACAAN (Richard Vollmer)
4- Subtle Scam (Tommaso Guglielmi)
5- The Berglas effect (David Berglas)
6- ACAAB (Boris Wild)
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I was surprised the berglas effect was no 5 in the list. I'm quite impressed with eureka. Those that commented knowing the secret might have spotted it but I think it's really very minute. Like one of the posts earlier, it's like spotting a thumb tip. No big deal. However, I'm trying out born's book first. Let's see how this goes
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nicolasmtg
New user
Argentina
24 Posts
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Posted: Apr 3, 2012 2:29pm
Hello I'm nicO I'm from argentina too and I showed mi version to roberto inspired on their and he really like it.
In mi version spectator deal the cards, but after they name the card I need to count some cards (open natural way) and then I do the MOVE.
Its designed for walkarround without table.
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Magicmagician83
New user
51 Posts
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Posted: Apr 28, 2012 7:49pm
What I want to know is if you can just have a spectator call out a random card, then a random number and have it work as in the video. I am ok with saying something like oh that number is too small or too big please pick one more towards the middle, but I am only interested in this if it can be done that direct. Please let me know.
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Magicmagician83
New user
51 Posts
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Posted: Apr 30, 2012 4:11pm
It just seems like you REALLY have to fish for the right number with this one. Am I correct?
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reignofsound
Loyal user
Glasgow, UK
233 Posts
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Posted: Apr 30, 2013 3:26pm
Bit late on this but just picked this up & really like it.
Very easy and minimal math and sleights required
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