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doriancaudal
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Posted: Aug 30, 2011 3:35pm
Any advice on this gaffed deck? Is it workable professionnaly? Do you often use it?
http://www.thetrickery.com/full/Cards-Instanto-Deck__8551.htm
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Potty the Pirate
Inner circle
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Posted: Aug 30, 2011 3:50pm
With practise, this can be a very powerful tool. It's quite easy really, but will require a lot of work to make the cuts instantly. Though I've played with the deck I've never owned one. I think I might just buy one myself. I'd forgotten about this great deck, and it would be a nice little addition to my arsenal. Shame it seems to be in Bees, not Bikes - but no one will notice that little detail.
Potty the Pirate
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RNK
Inner circle
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Posted: Aug 30, 2011 3:53pm
Semms like a lot of money for a deck you cannot show to the spec? A couple reviews mention how heavily gimmicked it looks from two important angles? But I guess in the perfect situation this would look like a small miracle.
RNK
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Harrismatic
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Greece
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Posted: Aug 30, 2011 4:56pm
By reading the added note from the trickery I can guess how this deck works.
If this is what I am thinking, it should take some time to master but not too long.
The fact that you can not give it to them is not something too important for this effect.the showing of the card is an absolute proof.
I have seen this effect many times the last period including a marc oberon's act but I doubt they use this special deck.
Harrismatic
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Potty the Pirate
Inner circle
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Posted: Aug 31, 2011 3:19am
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On 2011-08-30 15:53, RNK wrote:
Semms like a lot of money for a deck you cannot show to the spec? A couple reviews mention how heavily gimmicked it looks from two important angles? But I guess in the perfect situation this would look like a small miracle.
RNK
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Yes, I think it's only really suitable for parlour shows. Too obvious for close-up, and too small for stage work.
Potty the Pirate
Sussex Magician
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Waterloophai
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Belgium
662 Posts
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Posted: Aug 31, 2011 6:01am
This deck and the deck from Marc Oberon you can't show to the spec.
You can do exact the same thing with a deck that is in a total random order and that you can give for inspection afterwards or do your other tricks with.
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doriancaudal
Special user
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Posted: Aug 31, 2011 7:48am
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You can do exact the same thing with a deck that is in a total random order and that you can give for inspection afterwards or do your other tricks with.
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How? 
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Waterloophai
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Belgium
662 Posts
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Posted: Aug 31, 2011 2:09pm
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On 2011-08-31 07:48, doriancaudal wrote:
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You can do exact the same thing with a deck that is in a total random order and that you can give for inspection afterwards or do your other tricks with.
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How?
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PM me.
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trnz
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Posted: Sep 3, 2011 6:36pm
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On 2011-08-31 14:09, Waterloophai wrote:
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On 2011-08-31 07:48, doriancaudal wrote:
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You can do exact the same thing with a deck that is in a total random order and that you can give for inspection afterwards or do your other tricks with.
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How?
I wonder if you would help me as well. I have seen David Berglas and Marc Oberon doing this effect and
The guy on America's Got Talent (The Fabulous Fig) and think it is brilliant. Your buddy in the Art. :=)
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PM me.
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Potty the Pirate
Inner circle
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Posted: Sep 4, 2011 3:37pm
Waterloophai's post is accurate, but now that he's PM'd me with his presentation, I now realise that a "totally random order" isn't what I understood. Great magician speak. But, it's still the same effect, and yes, of course it can be done other ways.
For the working pro, the "Instanto" deck seems to deliver a good quality performance. But, as I mentioned, it can only be done as a parlour act. I like the alternatives (like the one suggested by Waterloophai), which could be performed as close-up. Is there a ginat deck available, which could be used for stage shows? If not, why not? This one seems to be begging for a giant deck presentation.
Potty
Potty the Pirate
Sussex Magician
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brad12d3
Veteran user
355 Posts
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Posted: Sep 6, 2011 11:31pm
So, as a hobbyist who likes to show tricks to his friends is this something I couldn't do from a couple of feet away? It looks really impressive but I wonder if it is practical for me. How difficult is it and how close can you be?
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The Great Dave
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Posted: Dec 4, 2011 4:11pm
You can buy one of these used, but I believe all the custom made decks from The Trickery are gone. You can do this close up - really, really close up.
The effect and the mechanical design of the deck is described in detail on page 677 of The Jinx number 115.
You will need a really good paper cutter and a corner rounder to make your own deck.
I have the deck and it is superb.
The best you can get close to it right now is Dennis Loomis Any Card which is very well made.
Standing in from of someone and saying "Name any card and I'll cut right to it." is amateur magic. Having a deck of cards that has an index system built in that you can use in front of a spectator to feel the card and cut to it is not the effect. It's what you do with the card after you have located it.
Think magic, magician ...
Now, of course, like any gaffed deck you can't hand it to a spectator and tell them to fondle it endlessly and then you will let the magic happen. And Copperfield is not going to let you come up on the stage and spend all afternoon examining his props before he performs them for the paying audience.
It's a stacked and gaffed deck folks. It's public domain and was published a long, long time ago.
If you think allowing the spectator examine your props endlessly before you make a presentation is the way to perform Magic, you need a new hobby.
And a decent lesson in misdirection and audience control if you want to come back.
Best,
Dave
Academy of Magical Arts
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Riley
Special user
Maidenhead, England
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Posted: Dec 31, 2011 12:13pm
Well said, Dave.
The late Patrick Page performed this effect for many years, and his presentation was very funny and amazing.
No deck examination necessary, (nor desirable!). Actually, no paper trimmer or corner rounder necessary in Pat's version, just a stack and plenty of practice. His method is detailed in his last book "Magic - Page by Page"
A wonderful effect which I believe was originated by Billy O'Connor many years ago.
Riley
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Decomposed
Eternal Order
Cannot See
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Posted: Jun 1, 2012 3:40am
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On 2011-12-04 16:11, The Great Dave wrote:
You can buy one of these used, but I believe all the custom made decks from The Trickery are gone. You can do this close up - really, really close up.
The effect and the mechanical design of the deck is described in detail on page 677 of The Jinx number 115.
You will need a really good paper cutter and a corner rounder to make your own deck.
I have the deck and it is superb.
The best you can get close to it right now is Dennis Loomis Any Card which is very well made.
Standing in from of someone and saying "Name any card and I'll cut right to it." is amateur magic. Having a deck of cards that has an index system built in that you can use in front of a spectator to feel the card and cut to it is not the effect. It's what you do with the card after you have located it.
Think magic, magician ...
Now, of course, like any gaffed deck you can't hand it to a spectator and tell them to fondle it endlessly and then you will let the magic happen. And Copperfield is not going to let you come up on the stage and spend all afternoon examining his props before he performs them for the paying audience.
It's a stacked and gaffed deck folks. It's public domain and was published a long, long time ago.
If you think allowing the spectator examine your props endlessly before you make a presentation is the way to perform Magic, you need a new hobby.
And a decent lesson in misdirection and audience control if you want to come back.
Best,
Dave
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Been looking at variations of this for an effect, thanks Dave.
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