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RNK
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Posted: Feb 16, 2012 11:13am
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On 2012-02-14 14:34, saysold1 wrote:
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On 2012-02-14 12:30, RNK wrote:
Saysold- I tries your approach with only showing the watch face to the spec. Everyone else said, "Why is he the only one to see the face of the watch"? They were a little suspicious. But when the kicker came with the prediction- some of the skeptism went away. Has this ever happened to you?
Thanks,
RNK
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It really hasn't but I can see what you mean.
The key idea here is that this is presented as an experiment - not a magic trick.
I state at the beginning that I am trying the influence the mind of ONE single person only. I give the prediction card to someone in the group early and ask them to hold it but not look yet.
In the movie Inception, Leonardo Decaprio's character goes into the mind of ONE person while they sleep - at first to steal their thoughts, and then in the end to implant an idea in ONE person's mind, I always state this - most people have seen the movie. I then state that in this experiment I will try to go into ONE person;s mind while they are awake.
Presented this way, the spectator's are prepped and ready for this to be a one person experiment - as a matter of fact they would be surprised if it involved more.
Have fun with this - the reactions are killer, and if presented and laid out correctly you should never have that issue. Maybe even watch the movie again - it helps with the patter at least for me.
Good luck and enjoy. Hope that helps 
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It does- Thanks! I see what you mean- when you stress the word "ONE" that puts the focus on the "ONE" (no pun intened)spec you are going to try and enter (their mind). Very nice..
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Kyle Elder
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Posted: Feb 18, 2012 7:42pm
I had posted this on another forum figured I would post it here too
Here is an idea/review for Timeless.
I think the concept being used is cleverly so simple that no one would even think it could be so simple. Its a great effect in my opinion. Ive tried and tested it few times and I liked the reactions I was receiving with it. So I decided to include it in one of my walk around gigs to see how using it in a real situation working table to table would work out. Although the set up is not time consuming you can't really set it up in front of an audience. The issue I had with it was that if you have long sleeves(which I do when performing my gigs) there's a risk of your set up being messed up before you get the chance to perform it(those who have timeless know exactly what I'm talking about). I wont go into detail on that because I don't want to give away the method. I was talking with my good friend Patrick Snowden and an idea came about that fixed that problem altogether. I went and had a local jeweler make me one(which is an easy job for them most will do it for free) with a pocket watch that can be closed shut. Now it stays set up ready to go with no risk of being messed up and I can keep it in my pocket or around my neck until I'm ready to use it. Just an idea for those who had an issue with that.
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brucewilcox
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Posted: Feb 18, 2012 11:18pm
I just returned from Las Vegas, where I was shown Timeless at Denny and Lee's. My first thought at the conclusion of the demo was "WOW!". My second thought was that the disappearing hands crossed the line too far into magic from mentalism for me to use, and I didn't see an immediate need for a time force. My third thought was "I don't care! It's a great effect, and it's inexpensive.", so I went ahead and purchased it.
Bravo, Liam, and many thanks to saysold and everyone else for the excellent ideas presented on this thread! I've not yet performed this, but I think the concept of planting a visual image in the minds of the spectators so that they "see" hands on a watch with no hands is quite marvelous.
...in the Land of the Free, and the Home of the B'Wave.
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brucewilcox
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Posted: Feb 18, 2012 11:26pm
I hope I can ask these (and can be answered) in a way that won't reveal too much. Regarding the item that accompanies the watch:
Has anyone had issues with opacity?
I try to always have spares, and I'm not seeing an exact (down to the product ID) match of this item available in the US. I know this is a relatively new effect, but has anyone in the US purchased this item in a different brand, and/or has anyone found a different brand/model they prefer over the original that comes with the watch?
...in the Land of the Free, and the Home of the B'Wave.
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saysold1
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Posted: Feb 19, 2012 12:02am
PM me and I can get you the info you need.
If you like this you should also upgrade to the Timex watch linked a few pages back - much better than the one you have.
No issues with opacity etc. Go to inner thoughts below for extra tips to help in that realm.
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brucewilcox
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Posted: Feb 19, 2012 12:41am
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On 2012-02-19 00:02, saysold1 wrote:
PM me and I can get you the info you need.
If you like this you should also upgrade to the Timex watch linked a few pages back - much better than the one you have.
No issues with opacity etc. Go to inner thoughts below for extra tips to help in that realm.
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Thanks much. I've already ordered the Timex (love that it's exactly the minimum price for free US shipping). I'll PM you, and later when I have 50 posts I'll check out Inner Thoughts.
...in the Land of the Free, and the Home of the B'Wave.
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KyleMacNeill
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Posted: Feb 20, 2012 12:32pm
Got this at Blackpool, fooled me and it is SUPER clever!
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saysold1
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Posted: Feb 20, 2012 3:32pm
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On 2012-02-20 12:32, KyleMacNeill wrote:
Got this at Blackpool, fooled me and it is SUPER clever!
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How was it presented / demo'd to you there?
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davidandstuff
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Springfield, Mo
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Posted: Mar 26, 2012 9:27pm
The Timex watch is perfect! The routine that has been discussed earlier in the thread is dynamite! I have been enjoying playing with this and the ideas on this thread from those who are using this a lot like Saysold1 have been invaluable to me. Thanks for all the encouragement and support, Brett!
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Paul Fitzgerald
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Posted: Mar 28, 2012 8:38am
If you are interested in this type of effect which can be very strong - you may want to search out "Glitch" by Ted Karmilovich in Bascom Jones "Magick". I've performed this when conditions allow for over 15 years whilst performing at various corporate functions and it is highly recommended.
I've also ordered "Timeless" from Liam and look forward to digesting his thinking on the topic.
Cheers,
Paul.
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mndude
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Posted: Mar 28, 2012 10:40am
I have not ONCE had anyone come close to figuring out this trick.
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Lou Cirulli
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Posted: Mar 28, 2012 3:18pm
Can anyone pm me a source on where to get the certain something that requires the effect? I don't want to give away the method but has anyone found the proper size you know what?
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saysold1
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Posted: Mar 28, 2012 4:31pm
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On 2012-03-28 15:18, Lou Cirulli wrote:
Can anyone pm me a source on where to get the certain something that requires the effect? I don't want to give away the method but has anyone found the proper size you know what?
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I'm baffled as to what the certain something is you are referring to? Proper size?
Buy the effect and you will have everything needed.
If you are talking about the watch, I have multiple links in the thread to the Timexx watch which is larger and the stem pulls out and turns easier.
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KyleMacNeill
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Posted: Mar 28, 2012 4:34pm
Saysold, he is talking about the "thing" you get with timeless, and how big the ... is, so as to make it as deceptive as possible.
Does that make sense?
I also have not found another one.
Best,
Kyle
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Fire Starter
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Posted: Mar 28, 2012 6:57pm
Been reading this over and over many times and very positive feedback most of the time, very persauded to go for it,mind you there is so much out there my addiction can not pay for it all,im already getting more adicted to this forum then I should be,lol.
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saysold1
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Posted: Mar 28, 2012 7:42pm
Gracias Kyle!
Anyone who needs a replacement *** - just PM me and I have the correct source. You have to prove you own it obviously. I have helped quite a few people get their replacements. They come in sets so maybe one nice person here can help out and share with their Café buddies I have already sold some of mine so can't help in that area. Maybe take this downstairs and we can discuss more openly. Anyone can PM me and I will give the info you need. I took care of Lou already.
Fire Starter - I can only tell you that this is a hell of a great effect. Really really really good.
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Paul Fitzgerald
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Posted: Mar 29, 2012 8:05am
This is a very strong effect which I highly recommend.
The subtleties provided on the DVD from Liam, Andi and Joshua are excellent.
For those that are considering investing in a higher quality watch, you may want to consider this - when you visit your local reputable jeweler ask them to leave the working second hand on the watch.
From my experience performing this noticeably inreases the impact of the effect on all particularly if you are using an influencing/mild hypnosis technique on the volunteer.
Cheers,
Paul.
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Keith Atkinson
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Wigan, UK
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Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:50am
I came accross a gold pocket watch, with a cover, that my son gave me on his wedding day. Never used it since, and probablly wont in the future. I have taken the chain off and used this as an alternative. I read earlier in these posts someone had done the same.
Certainly gets rid of the sm*****g problems, and gets just as good, if not better reactions.
Keith.
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saysold1
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Posted: Mar 29, 2012 1:31pm
Great thinking you guys... Anyone investing in this will find a worker that will leave audiences astonished.
There are two ways to perform this:
1) As a magic trick (As per JOsh Jay and Liam)
2) As a mentalism demonstration of pure influence (my presentation with thanks to Café members)
Whichever road you take, you will be very happy with the outcome - your mileage may vary.
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Fire Starter
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Posted: Mar 29, 2012 4:51pm
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On 2012-03-28 19:42, saysold1 wrote:
Gracias Kyle!
Anyone who needs a replacement *** - just PM me and I have the correct source. You have to prove you own it obviously. I have helped quite a few people get their replacements. They come in sets so maybe one nice person here can help out and share with their Café buddies I have already sold some of mine so can't help in that area. Maybe take this downstairs and we can discuss more openly. Anyone can PM me and I will give the info you need. I took care of Lou already.
Fire Starter - I can only tell you that this is a hell of a great effect. Really really really good.
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Many thanks ,once I have some pennys saved ,i will be getting this
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Paul Fitzgerald
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Posted: Apr 1, 2012 2:29pm
There is another great routine that works really well with "Timeless" that you should seriously consider.
I've purchased 2 identical watches as recommended by saysold1 (thanks!), adjust 1 watch as per timeless but ask the jeweller to leave working second hand. Leave second watch as it arrived.
Then when and where appropriate use a stooge as a volunteer to switch in the "timeless" watch and use a separate volunteer to perform the routine with.
When the final reveal is made make sure you exit the room immediately (don't hang around - just get out of the room as quickly as you can), leaving your audience in shock and your stooge with a watch with no hands.
The comments from the audience are unbelievable and if you have a stooge who is up for it he/she can really take this to another level.
Cheers,
Paul.
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saysold1
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Posted: Apr 1, 2012 4:58pm
Stooge?
Hmmm - A wise guy huh?
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Jamie Ferguson
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Posted: Apr 2, 2012 6:31am
After picking it up from Blackpool Timeless has become my favourite 'guilty pleasure' trick.
I can't believe I keep getting away with it.
Genius thinking from Liam.
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WARD.GS
New user
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Posted: May 9, 2012 7:49am
Hi all. Not sure if this has been addressed in the previous 11 pages but; most working close uppers are fully suited, so how does anyone get round the fact that you can't prepare this effect more than e.g. 1 table in advance ? ...and even then run the risk of losing the effect (trying not to give it away here). I was excited about perforing Timeless but walked straight into that problem. Also, I really think showing one time as 3 or even just 2 different times is a weak spot and mightn't fly a lot of the time. Would be interested in ways around the prep issue tho. Feel free top pm me if best.
Wardy
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Liam Montier
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Posted: May 11, 2012 9:25am
Hi Ward,
There are solutions throughout the pages in this thread. Once you are set up, you can have your sleeves rolled up, perform the trick early on, or keep the watch in a pocket with the strap fastened the other way around, to protect the face of the watch. Some have prepared pocket watches, keep the watch in a watch box, and I am sure I have missed a stack of solutions.
I often hear people say that they don't think the repeated showings will fly by. All these people haven't actually tried it - when you do, you will see that it does fly by everyone, in my experience. It takes people a good one or two seconds to tell the time on an analogue watch on their wrist when they look directly at it up close - a casual display, at chest height and at an angle, is 100% safe.
I hope that helps anyway man, and drop me a line if you have any other questions or concerns
Liam
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mndude
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Posted: May 11, 2012 2:37pm
Yikes! Liam is here! Does anyone else feel like you're in the midst of a celebrity whenever one of the magic creators start posting here?
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Liam Montier
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Posted: May 11, 2012 6:05pm
Ha! Yikes right back at you man
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GordonTheHypnotist
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Posted: May 12, 2012 8:12pm
Hey saysold1 have you ever explained "how you influenced them" Say the time the spectator's see is 9:05 I think it would be cool to have 3 or 4 places where the spectators can see the numbers 905 but not drawing attention to them until after the presentation. Something like the "as you can see the sub concious works in mysterious ways, it takes in information all the time and I use that information to influence you....look at the bottom of my cup it says 905 look at this brochure the numbers 905 are up in the corner, look at (stickers, buiness cards, lables, signs, projections etc) all with the number 905" This makes it kind of Derren Brown esque he uses ruses like this all the time. Its all show and magical hooey but it does add an aire of legitimacy to the effect. It also makes it look more unlikely that you used a stooge and just told them to say they saw a specific time.
Let me know what you think
Thanks,
Gordon
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WARD.GS
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Posted: May 13, 2012 7:02pm
Liam; thanks for your reply. I have to be honest and say that whilst I love the effect, in the time I have worked close up with other magicians I can't remember any time where one of us had sleeves rolled up or sleeveless. I think having the watch in a box shouts prop. I think this is a real weakness as the effect stands - I really don't want to be negative on your great effect - I'm rather look for a way around it. A solution wher you can prepare and just know you are ready. I'm sure there is a way but don't think we've hit on it yet. I'll keep working on it though. Regards ward.
Wardy
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Liam Montier
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Posted: May 14, 2012 6:37am
No worries man, different strokes for different folks. I don't think I have performed a gig in long sleeves for years - the first thing I do is roll them up, because invariably otherwise I will just hear 'it went up your sleeve' all evening.
I hope you get to use it though man, and find a solution that works for you, because it has been such a great trick for me, particularly with the touches that Andi and Josh bought to the table as well. It is just one of those things that gives you a little kick every time you get away with it
Cheers matey,
Liam.
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